Multan Sultans owner, Ali Tareen, blames Imad Wasim for Pakistan's T20 World Cup 2024 exit

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Ali Tareen blames his Multan Sultans for Pakistan’s 2024 World Cup loss​


Owner of Pakistan Super League’s (PSL) franchise Multan Sultans, Ali Khan Tareen, believes his team was responsible for Pakistan’s underwhelming performance and subsequent exit from the T20 World Cup 2024.

Appearing on a YouTube channel to discuss PSL 10 categories, Tareen reflected on PSL 9 in conversation with host Salaar, talking about Sultans’ defeat against Islamabad United. Tareen said following:

“When the match ended, I was standing at the ceremony with a member of the PCB. I told him that I was apologising in advance because, due to us, Imad Wasim was now in the World Cup squad and he would get us killed at the World Cup.”

“He looked at me and said ‘son… I know… you're absolutely right’, and that's exactly what happened. He played the World Cup because of us, and Pakistan suffered… so Multan Sultans takes the blame for it,”
Guy has money but never played even gully danda and he is talking about an international player who was ranked #1 at one time.
 
Guy has money but never played even gully danda and he is talking about an international player who was ranked #1 at one time.
This guy brings his elitist mates to net with the fringe players at Multan.
 
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No your interest is only to support Tareen’s vile comments about Imad because you hate Imad as he has exposed your precious Babar and Rizwan as T20 frauds!

Yet he happily played under them.
 
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Yet he happily played under them.
Was he playing under them or for Pakistan?

Are Babar and Rizwan Pakistan? That’s always my argument, for RizBar fans, Pakistan comes second and they come first.
 
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Was he playing under them or for Pakistan?

Are Babar and Rizwan Pakistan? That’s always my argument, for RizBar fans, Pakistan comes second and they come first.

So we're just going to ignore how chummy he became with Babar and Rizwan. Do you think he would've been selected if the captain didn't agree?

Instead of giving credit to RizBar for supporting Imad and Amir's return you just want to find faults with them
 
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So we're just going to ignore how chummy he became with Babar and Rizwan. Do you think he would've been selected if the captain didn't agree?

Instead of giving credit to RizBar for supporting Imad and Amir's return you just want to find faults with them

Imad and Amir were actually selected by Mohsin Naqvi.
 
So we're just going to ignore how chummy he became with Babar and Rizwan. Do you think he would've been selected if the captain didn't agree?

Instead of giving credit to RizBar for supporting Imad and Amir's return you just want to find faults with them
Well, again you are proving your ignorance and lack of research. How about you listen to the latest interview by Wahab Riaz where he explains the whole Imad+Amir return.

He clearly states that it was Shaheen who came to Wahab and demanded the inclusion of Imad, and also wanted Amir back in the team. Wahab says that he didn’t agree with it but took the request to Naqvi, who then instructed Usman Wahla to directly deal with Imad and Amir.

Their agreement to return to Pakistan wasn’t based on who is and who will be captain, Babar knew this too. Babar couldn’t drop Amir or Imad even if he wanted to. They are all grown adults, they dealt with it all professionally.
 
The thread was opened by an individual who has a special hatred for Imad, which is rather weird because according to him last year, the said player is a "relative" of his. If true, is this a case of jealousy/envy/nazar? If so, may the all mighty protect us from such people.

Rizwan plays a Misbah-esque knock, so you'll never hear Misbah fans say a word about his innings. They are the most vocal on this thread because they want to see the status quo of Pakistan cricket to be maintained.

Mediocrity recognises mediocrity.
You’re giving them way too much credit, man!

I honestly don’t think they have the cricketing nuance to understand the damage Rizwan is causing Pakistan in T20s. It’s not that they’re being strategic or clever—they just don’t know any better.

They’re under the delusion that Rizwan is our only hope because they believe the rest of the batters are even worse. They cling to his "consistency" and see his 41-ball 32 runs innings as some kind of silver lining while ignoring the fact that those runs put extra pressure on the other batters to compensate for his nothing innings in the Powerplay. And the worst part? Rizwan is so stubborn he pulled the same thing against South Africa in the first game we lost.

A lot of these people genuinely think we don’t have any talent. They even wrote off Saim Ayub at one point! But now? They’ve completely flipped on him like they never doubted him in the first place.

It’s a disgrace, really.
 
Well, again you are proving your ignorance and lack of research. How about you listen to the latest interview by Wahab Riaz where he explains the whole Imad+Amir return.

He clearly states that it was Shaheen who came to Wahab and demanded the inclusion of Imad, and also wanted Amir back in the team. Wahab says that he didn’t agree with it but took the request to Naqvi, who then instructed Usman Wahla to directly deal with Imad and Amir.

Their agreement to return to Pakistan wasn’t based on who is and who will be captain, Babar knew this too. Babar couldn’t drop Amir or Imad even if he wanted to. They are all grown adults, they dealt with it all professionally.

I love how you construct fairytales. You're talking about the same Naqvi that stripped Shaheen of captaincy and brought back Babar. Do you think Babar accepted captaincy without demands?

Even if he had no control over their selection, he did have control over whether they should be in the playing XI or not. But Babar did not stoop to their level for vengeance, he gave both of them chances.
 
You might be shocked to hear this but no they weren't.

As I've mentioned in post 57, it was much harder to bat in the second half of the innings. The ball got softer and the pitch was getting slower and slower as the match progressed.

Absolutely shocked to hear this. Because in the match thread you still pinned your hopes on Imad. In hindsight it's easy to analyze what went wrong. At that point in time, when it was showing 93% win rate, you too thought we could win as long as Imad was there (although it's another thing that you wanted India to win).

Here's one of your posts:


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When Rizwan got out, Pakistan needed 40 runs in 5.5 overs. At face value (without seeing the playing conditions) you'd think it's cake walk but it's actually a nightmare. If you don't believe me, check the scorecard and you'll find India lost 7 wickets for 30 runs in the last 8.4 overs. Batting in the last 10 overs in that contest was horrible and I really do empathise with everyone who had to come out to bat at this stage of this innings, except for Ifti. The guy missed 3-4 full tosses. The two biggest culprits in that chase were Rizwan and him.

Not true. For a guy who advocates honesty you sure seem to throw in little lies. Pakistan needed 40 from 35 balls which is 5.83 overs not 5.5

Imad did not come to bat after Rizwan got out. He came in the 12th over after Fakhar's wicket. And right away he played 4 dot balls off of Pandya. Don't you think that played a part for Rizwan to take a risk? Imad built pressure on Rizwan who had no choice but to try and up the ante.

4 dot balls right away and then couldn't lay a bat on Axar Patel's bowling. But no Ifti missing Bumrah's full tosses is the real culprit. Hadd hai, be honest and criticize Imad because he failed to live up to your expectations. But you can't do this because your agenda is Rizwan. Please don't preach honesty when you don't live upto it.
 
Well how about you take them in the powerplay? So I am to blame for this bongi by Rizwan?

No but your boy Imad Wasim is. Right away he started playing dot balls and the only boundary he got was off an edge. he built pressure on Riz who was forced to play a big shot. If Imad lived up to his hype, we could've won.
 
I don’t give two hoots if that pitch was a minefield. My openers go hard! That’s what they do in T20s! Rizwan was ‘assessing’ that day, and he was doing the same against Australia and South Africa where their openers where going at 160+ whilst he was less than a run a ball every powerplay!

He’s a serial nuisance as a T20 opener and NY was no exception. Stop making useless excuses for him and hi repetitive trash approach


bhai mere your post in the match thread. you were okay with his innings when it was happening. Why the shift in stance now?

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What you're saying is basically there's only one way to play T20 which is to go hard at all balls. What you're ignoring is the 'minefiled' aspect of the pitch that your boy @mominsaigol keeps mentioning. You're also ignoring that India lost all wickets in 19 overs. How often is a batting line up like India's bowled out in T20s? And once Rizwan lost his wicket, what did the others do? We could've been all out too. His approach was correct on that day. If he hadn't taken that unnecessary risk against Bumrah, we could've won.
I don’t give two hoots if that pitch was a minefield. My openers go hard! That’s what they do in T20s! Rizwan was ‘assessing’ that day, and he was doing the same against Australia and South Africa where their openers where going at 160+ whilst he was less than a run a ball every powerplay!

He’s a serial nuisance as a T20 opener and NY was no exception. Stop making useless excuses for him and hi repetitive trash approach

I've said it multiple times, pitch was a minefield but the only way to win was for the top order to attack from the get go cause the pitch would eventually become unplayable.

Your boi rizwan didn't go all out from the start he scored 31 of 44 ensuring defeat
 
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The other thing I suspect with Tareen having reservations about Warner is that he will bluntly tell a guy like Rizwan to pull his socks up and not make the team have to do all the heavy lifting because of his own selfish decision to bat for himself. Their team meetings afterwards when Rizwan has scored 30 off 25 and everyone else is trying to go at 180+ are getting the blame….Warner I’m sure will blast Rizwan. I’m 100% sure of it. He will do it.
He will, Warner is too vocal about it. If no one listens to him Pakistan cricket as a whole will suffer consequences
 
Imad had enough talent for LOI. But his lack of work ethic towards his game and fitness was the issue. I believe this is what management and selectors had a problem with and were trying to force Imad to change by dropping and putting pressure through competition. At the time, when you could see a younger, fitter, better fielder, and similar player in Shadab who was also working on his batting, it made Imad look complacent. He didn’t change, instead reverting towards leagues. I’m sure he had captaincy aspirations too, and tbh at the time Sarfraz was removed, Imad probably was the most experienced captain to take over. We instead gave to Babar hoping he’d learn captaincy.

Of course he forced his way back into the side with PSL performances which were too strong to prevent him for not coming back. But he did it at a worse fitness, pretty much same as he usually was. You could see his seriousness to the game, the guy was caught smoking cigarettes mid game in a PSL final.

And yet the frustrating thing even with all his lack of serious work ethic and dedication to fitness, he was still good enough to be in that team. A better player than Shadab, who probably played instead of him. In the quest to get imad’s full potential, we pretty much years on the flawed but current version of Imad, who would have made the team stronger for all those years. I don’t think Imad ever reached his full potential as a player.

I think we should have played Imad all these years and not dropped him. It was a mistake in hindsight.

However the bigger issue is we continue to be plagued by the same problems. So many of our talented players are lost due to fitness or fixing. And as a result we are weaker. We shouldn’t even be in this situation where we have to consider whether our talented players are fit enough to play or have sufficient work ethic. They should automatically be. Yet an unreal amount of them seem to be, from Imad, Umar akmal, Jamshed, Sharjeel, Sarfraz, Azam etc. Keep having to make decisions on whether they are good enough to play in spite of these issues. Sometimes the decision is right to play them, sometimes wrong. But in modern sports where athletes are expected to be in peak fitness with fantastic work ethic like in other sports and in other cricketing teams, we shouldn’t even be in the position of making these decisions.

That’s why we need to make a non tolerance policy to poor fitness and fixing. If you aren’t fit enough you don’t play. If you have fixed, you don’t play international cricket again. That why we won’t lose talented players in the future that hopefully at a young age will realise the situation and don’t fall down those rabbit holes.
 
Imad has to be blamed for that inning he played against India. He is equally responsible along with the other team members. People who say he has nothing to do with those defeats should watch the game again. all those 11 guys were reponsible and Imad was one of them.
 
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I've said it multiple times, pitch was a minefield but the only way to win was for the top order to attack from the get go cause the pitch would eventually become unplayable.

Your boi rizwan didn't go all out from the start he scored 31 of 44 ensuring defeat

Let's agree to disagree. I believed Rizwan could've won us the match but he failed to do so. You believed Imad could win us the match but he failed too.
 
No cause I don't believe imad could win us a game cause it was impossible for the middle and lower order thanks to your selfish player.

More evidence of that is you refusing to address anymof the examples ive given you for rizwan costing Pakistan games in t20
Let's agree to disagree. I believed Rizwan could've won us the match but he failed to do so. You believed Imad could win us the match but he failed too.
 
No cause I don't believe imad could win us a game cause it was impossible for the middle and lower order thanks to your selfish player.

More evidence of that is you refusing to address anymof the examples ive given you for rizwan costing Pakistan games in t20

LOL then that's your thinking. Imad did have a chance to stand up and be counted unfortunately he couldn't do it. His legacy will be that he's a TTF. Rizwan though is going to new heights day by day and he will retire as a Pakistani ATG.

Post them in relevant threads. I don't like my messages being deleted and i don't have time like you to to keep repeating the same arguments.
 
LOL then that's your thinking. Imad did have a chance to stand up and be counted unfortunately he couldn't do it. His legacy will be that he's a TTF. Rizwan though is going to new heights day by day and he will retire as a Pakistani ATG.

Post them in relevant threads. I don't like my messages being deleted and i don't have time like you to to keep repeating the same arguments.
You're repeating the same arguments over and over and you know full well what my arguments are and you can't counter them which is why you divert nonstop.

Rizwan or babar had the task to play a Pant like innings to achieve victory they didn't and it's not surprising. I gave you an entire list of such knows that remain unanswered.

As for Pakistani atg. Theirs no such thing, you could claim rashid Khan is an Afghanistan atg lol.

Atg means all time great. Their are no filters that can be added to undermine it's value even then Pakistan has produced a good 15 to 20 batters > Rizwan but rizwan simply hides behind the wicket keeping clause and you lot abuse it.

He's a barely 40 avg batter in test and odi who by the end of his career will finish his avg at around about 35 to 37. To top it off he has only 3 test and odi centuries in nearly 10 years of playing in Cricket's easiest most batting friendly new ball era.

Every tom dick and Harry averages 40+ nowadays.

Far cry from the likes of Anwar who had 20 centuries in a nightmarish batting era.
 
You're repeating the same arguments over and over and you know full well what my arguments are and you can't counter them which is why you divert nonstop.

Rizwan or babar had the task to play a Pant like innings to achieve victory they didn't and it's not surprising. I gave you an entire list of such knows that remain unanswered.

You want to analyze each and every match that you think Rizwan failed in? I got time today, post in relevant threads and I will answer you accordingly. Get the whole high five gang, bring it on!!
As for Pakistani atg. Theirs no such thing, you could claim rashid Khan is an Afghanistan atg lol.

Rashid Khan is an atg for Afghanistan, how can you even deny such a thing.
Pakistan has produced a good 15 to 20 batters > Rizwan

name them fam, let's compare

Every tom dick and Harry averages 40+ nowadays.

And they're all better than Rizwan right what logic
Far cry from the likes of Anwar who had 20 centuries in a nightmarish batting era.

I didn't know Saeed Anwar kept wickets. You provide new info everyday
 
You want to analyze each and every match that you think Rizwan failed in? I got time today, post in relevant threads and I will answer you accordingly. Get the whole high five gang, bring it on!!


Rashid Khan is an atg for Afghanistan, how can you even deny such a thing.


name them fam, let's compare



And they're all better than Rizwan right what logic


I didn't know Saeed Anwar kept wickets. You provide new info everyday
I already provided the list to you, Check, search and reply. Don't waste my time on providing them again.
 
ali tareen now aftwr failing from politics turning his career into cricket management.
 
He is right. Imad Wasim played one of the most embarrassing innings in history of T20 cricket after his deluded fans spent a whole month advertising his ability to play under pressure and according to the match situation.

Imad himself spent a whole year criticizing the players on tv and highlighted their lack of match awareness.

When the time came for Imad to put his money where his mouth was and show how it is done, he failed with flying colors. None of the so-called coolness under pressure and match awareness were on display vs India.

If Imad didn’t play that match, his fans would have been adamant that had Imad played, he would have won the match for Pakistan in that situation. They would have said that he is made for those situations.

His deluded fans put all the blame on Rizwan and others and those players didn’t do a great job either, but the match was still in Pakistan’s grasp when Rizwan got out and Imad should have leveraged his so called experience and intelligence to play according to the situation.

His embarrassing whaffing vs Axar summed up the fraud that he is. That was the over when the momentum well and truly shifted towards India. He kept going for shots knowing that all other batsman had struggled to play shots on this pitch. All he had to do was knock the ball around for 1s and 2s and Pakistan would have won.

He batted at a SR of 65. Even if he batted at a SR of 70, Pakistan would have won. That innings summed up his career and summed up his fans as well, and it forever tarnished his reputation and the fake image and aura that he had created for himself.

It also proved that Pakistan missed out on nothing by keeping him out of the team for two years. The 2024 World Cup killed off the Imad myth once and for all and now he can’t even pretend to be a fake expert on tv. He fully deserved this humiliation.
 
Lol how did imad fail ? Check his bowing stats in WC . that India knock where whole batting line up failed let’s blame imad cause he is easy target. What about Rizwan ? Ifti ? Babar? Shadab ?
 
He is right. Imad Wasim played one of the most embarrassing innings in history of T20 cricket after his deluded fans spent a whole month advertising his ability to play under pressure and according to the match situation.

Imad himself spent a whole year criticizing the players on tv and highlighted their lack of match awareness.

When the time came for Imad to put his money where his mouth was and show how it is done, he failed with flying colors. None of the so-called coolness under pressure and match awareness were on display vs India.

If Imad didn’t play that match, his fans would have been adamant that had Imad played, he would have won the match for Pakistan in that situation. They would have said that he is made for those situations.

His deluded fans put all the blame on Rizwan and others and those players didn’t do a great job either, but the match was still in Pakistan’s grasp when Rizwan got out and Imad should have leveraged his so called experience and intelligence to play according to the situation.

His embarrassing whaffing vs Axar summed up the fraud that he is. That was the over when the momentum well and truly shifted towards India. He kept going for shots knowing that all other batsman had struggled to play shots on this pitch. All he had to do was knock the ball around for 1s and 2s and Pakistan would have won.

He batted at a SR of 65. Even if he batted at a SR of 70, Pakistan would have won. That innings summed up his career and summed up his fans as well, and it forever tarnished his reputation and the fake image and aura that he had created for himself.

It also proved that Pakistan missed out on nothing by keeping him out of the team for two years. The 2024 World Cup killed off the Imad myth once and for all and now he can’t even pretend to be a fake expert on tv. He fully deserved this humiliation.
That may be true but the owner of a franchise to come out and say this is pretty unprofessional and feels like a desperate cry for attention.
 
ali tareen now aftwr failing from politics turning his career into cricket management.
With some of his comments about overseas players he will likely run his franchise into the ground too. He is discussing players publicly the same way fans discuss their fantasy teams on WhatsApp with their friends.
 
He is right. Imad Wasim played one of the most embarrassing innings in history of T20 cricket after his deluded fans spent a whole month advertising his ability to play under pressure and according to the match situation.

Imad himself spent a whole year criticizing the players on tv and highlighted their lack of match awareness.

When the time came for Imad to put his money where his mouth was and show how it is done, he failed with flying colors. None of the so-called coolness under pressure and match awareness were on display vs India.

If Imad didn’t play that match, his fans would have been adamant that had Imad played, he would have won the match for Pakistan in that situation. They would have said that he is made for those situations.

His deluded fans put all the blame on Rizwan and others and those players didn’t do a great job either, but the match was still in Pakistan’s grasp when Rizwan got out and Imad should have leveraged his so called experience and intelligence to play according to the situation.

His embarrassing whaffing vs Axar summed up the fraud that he is. That was the over when the momentum well and truly shifted towards India. He kept going for shots knowing that all other batsman had struggled to play shots on this pitch. All he had to do was knock the ball around for 1s and 2s and Pakistan would have won.

He batted at a SR of 65. Even if he batted at a SR of 70, Pakistan would have won. That innings summed up his career and summed up his fans as well, and it forever tarnished his reputation and the fake image and aura that he had created for himself.

It also proved that Pakistan missed out on nothing by keeping him out of the team for two years. The 2024 World Cup killed off the Imad myth once and for all and now he can’t even pretend to be a fake expert on tv. He fully deserved this humiliation.

Beautiful post sir. Truly you're an ATG :rizthumbsup
 
I love how you construct fairytales. You're talking about the same Naqvi that stripped Shaheen of captaincy and brought back Babar. Do you think Babar accepted captaincy without demands?
How am I constructing fairytales if I am telling you to go and watch Wahab’s interview where he explains how Imad and Amir were brought back into the side. Shaheen was the captain of Pakistan at the time and he he was trying to convince them to return during ILT20

You are absolutely clueless if you think Babar was given the power to drop Amir and Imad if he wanted to. They were directly reporting to Naqvi through Usman Wahla. Wahab, Babar, Kirsten, Azhar Mahmood had no power to take them out because Naqvi said he wanted the best players from Pakistan playing.
 
With some of his comments about overseas players he will likely run his franchise into the ground too. He is discussing players publicly the same way fans discuss their fantasy teams on WhatsApp with their friends.
Well now he seems confused again, his latest tweets are predictions of how Warner will be the first pick for the first 3-4 franchises before his team’s pick. It’s pretty obvious that he knows he has no chance to pick him, so then he makes up this horse story about Warner’s attitude towards franchises
 
With some of his comments about overseas players he will likely run his franchise into the ground too. He is discussing players publicly the same way fans discuss their fantasy teams on WhatsApp with their friends.
He is a failed politician. Comes from a very privileged family and still lose the elections
 
I don’t have a problem with this fellow publicly exposing Imad. I think everyone should name and shame him.
 
Well now he seems confused again, his latest tweets are predictions of how Warner will be the first pick for the first 3-4 franchises before his team’s pick. It’s pretty obvious that he knows he has no chance to pick him, so then he makes up this horse story about Warner’s attitude towards franchises
he can pick him if he makes a few trades.

SO a guy who is in cricket management shouldnt be tursted and is making up stories while a guy who only posts online knows more? lol
 
How am I constructing fairytales if I am telling you to go and watch Wahab’s interview where he explains how Imad and Amir were brought back into the side. Shaheen was the captain of Pakistan at the time and he he was trying to convince them to return during ILT20

You are absolutely clueless if you think Babar was given the power to drop Amir and Imad if he wanted to. They were directly reporting to Naqvi through Usman Wahla. Wahab, Babar, Kirsten, Azhar Mahmood had no power to take them out because Naqvi said he wanted the best players from Pakistan playing.
I don’t think Babar called for Imad to be dropped. I doubt he even suggested it. However I do suspect that if Babar had been adamant that Imad needed to return after he was dropped, I think he would have made it back into the side. I think it would have been tough for selectors to deny. I remember when Misbah was captain, Malik was in really bad form yet still playing. And selectors/management came out later to say they only continued to pick Malik because Misbah wanted him.

This might be the reason why there was a bit of a rift between Babar and Imad. As maybe Imad felt aggrieved that Babar could have probably immediately persuaded selectors to recall him. And yet Babar chose not to.
 
With some of his comments about overseas players he will likely run his franchise into the ground too. He is discussing players publicly the same way fans discuss their fantasy teams on WhatsApp with their friends.
nothing wrong. This is common in sports, its jsut in Pakistan we think discussin players is a sin.

Im tired with the interviews that oh i worked hard, flana coach helped me.... Cricket podcast only becomes fun when we learn something new, whats happening behind the scenes.

Right now @Rana is having a mealt down becuase what ever we said has been proven by an insider.
 
he can pick him if he makes a few trades.

SO a guy who is in cricket management shouldnt be tursted and is making up stories while a guy who only posts online knows more? lol
Im not an owner but Alhamdolillah, Alhamdolillah, ALHAMDOLILLAH I know this business well!
 
Absolutely shocked to hear this. Because in the match thread you still pinned your hopes on Imad. In hindsight it's easy to analyze what went wrong. At that point in time, when it was showing 93% win rate, you too thought we could win as long as Imad was there (although it's another thing that you wanted India to win).

Here's one of your posts:


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Not true. For a guy who advocates honesty you sure seem to throw in little lies. Pakistan needed 40 from 35 balls which is 5.83 overs not 5.5

Imad did not come to bat after Rizwan got out. He came in the 12th over after Fakhar's wicket. And right away he played 4 dot balls off of Pandya. Don't you think that played a part for Rizwan to take a risk? Imad built pressure on Rizwan who had no choice but to try and up the ante.

4 dot balls right away and then couldn't lay a bat on Axar Patel's bowling. But no Ifti missing Bumrah's full tosses is the real culprit. Hadd hai, be honest and criticize Imad because he failed to live up to your expectations. But you can't do this because your agenda is Rizwan. Please don't preach honesty when you don't live upto it.
lol dont worry he knows what he is ding.

Ends up losing and the poster runs off
 
He is right. Imad Wasim played one of the most embarrassing innings in history of T20 cricket after his deluded fans spent a whole month advertising his ability to play under pressure and according to the match situation.

Imad himself spent a whole year criticizing the players on tv and highlighted their lack of match awareness.

When the time came for Imad to put his money where his mouth was and show how it is done, he failed with flying colors. None of the so-called coolness under pressure and match awareness were on display vs India.

If Imad didn’t play that match, his fans would have been adamant that had Imad played, he would have won the match for Pakistan in that situation. They would have said that he is made for those situations.

His deluded fans put all the blame on Rizwan and others and those players didn’t do a great job either, but the match was still in Pakistan’s grasp when Rizwan got out and Imad should have leveraged his so called experience and intelligence to play according to the situation.

His embarrassing whaffing vs Axar summed up the fraud that he is. That was the over when the momentum well and truly shifted towards India. He kept going for shots knowing that all other batsman had struggled to play shots on this pitch. All he had to do was knock the ball around for 1s and 2s and Pakistan would have won.

He batted at a SR of 65. Even if he batted at a SR of 70, Pakistan would have won. That innings summed up his career and summed up his fans as well, and it forever tarnished his reputation and the fake image and aura that he had created for himself.

It also proved that Pakistan missed out on nothing by keeping him out of the team for two years. The 2024 World Cup killed off the Imad myth once and for all and now he can’t even pretend to be a fake expert on tv. He fully deserved this humiliation.
This should be POTW
 
Can you share examples here? Where owners openly disrespect players?
James Dolan and Charles Oakley (2017)
Jerry Jones Criticizing Cowboys Players (Various Instances)
Dan Gilbert and LeBron James (2010)
 
James Dolan and Charles Oakley (2017)
Jerry Jones Criticizing Cowboys Players (Various Instances)
Dan Gilbert and LeBron James (2010)
Cricket examples. Where are the cricket examples?
 
As a local who lives in ISB and supports ISB unlike an overseas minority like you, the only L that exists is with you.
Will you watching a few games live coming CT? I'll be in pakistan during CT, will watch a few games in Lahore and Islamabad and Pindi only. Trying to find a way to travel to dubai as well for pak vs India but no guarantee I'll be able to watch it. Maybe maybe not.
 
Imad Wasim hid an injury only to play the T20WC, got exposed badly in India where he was even running casually, a true fraudia
 
Cricket examples. Where are the cricket examples?
as usual. When you stand exposed, you start creating conditions.
ANyways, Preity Zinta the owners oF Punjab made comments on Dinesh Karthr not justifyinf the price tag he was sold for to Delhi. in 2014.

SRK made comments on Mumbais spending in 2018.

JAved Afridi loves to make comments on Qalanders and even KK in the past.
 
Will you watching a few games live coming CT? I'll be in pakistan during CT, will watch a few games in Lahore and Islamabad and Pindi only. Trying to find a way to travel to dubai as well for pak vs India but no guarantee I'll be able to watch it. Maybe maybe not.
In Pindi i might,
 
Absolutely shocked to hear this. Because in the match thread you still pinned your hopes on Imad. In hindsight it's easy to analyze what went wrong. At that point in time, when it was showing 93% win rate, you too thought we could win as long as Imad was there (although it's another thing that you wanted India to win).

Here's one of your posts:


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I can admit during the contest when Imad came out to bat, I thought it was a cake walk. But after much reflection, I then came to the realisation that the last 10 overs was far more difficult to bat than the first 10 overs. Why do you think India lost 7 wickets for 30 runs in 8.4 overs?

Me pinning innings is irrelevant and very much a futile point.

Not true. For a guy who advocates honesty you sure seem to throw in little lies. Pakistan needed 40 from 35 balls which is 5.83 overs not 5.5

Nope. You've misunderstood me because you don't understand the cricketing definition of what 5.5 overs is. It's 5 overs and 5 balls i.e. 35 balls. The fact that you don't understand basic cricketing terminology speaks volume about your understanding of cricket. But that's to be expected from someone who has a special appetite for mediocrity, which can be reflected by your blind following of Misbah and Rizwan.

Nice try with that flex of such basic maths to a mathematician. You should do this to someone @Major because he's a fellow Misbah/Rizwan supporter and by his own admission he had academic problems throughout his education.

Imad did not come to bat after Rizwan got out. He came in the 12th over after Fakhar's wicket. And right away he played 4 dot balls off of Pandya. Don't you think that played a part for Rizwan to take a risk? Imad built pressure on Rizwan who had no choice but to try and up the ante.

4 dot balls right away and then couldn't lay a bat on Axar Patel's bowling. But no Ifti missing Bumrah's full tosses is the real culprit. Hadd hai, be honest and criticize Imad because he failed to live up to your expectations. But you can't do this because your agenda is Rizwan. Please don't preach honesty when you don't live upto it.

If you go watch the game again, you'll find Imad missed balls off the pitch, whereas Ifti missed like 4 full tosses. Whilst I've acknowledged Imad's innings wasn't good enough on numerous occasions, the fact that you're making out that both of these efforts are analogous is another fine example of your dishonesty.

Like I said before, if Ali Tareen made the same remarks about Rizwan's innings, you wouldn't say a word about it because you're one of the most agenda driven posters. This is evident by the fact that you started bringing up irrelevant stuff about Wasim Akram's personal life, all because he refused to conform to your cult following of Babar.
 
You’re giving them way too much credit, man!

I honestly don’t think they have the cricketing nuance to understand the damage Rizwan is causing Pakistan in T20s. It’s not that they’re being strategic or clever—they just don’t know any better.

They’re under the delusion that Rizwan is our only hope because they believe the rest of the batters are even worse. They cling to his "consistency" and see his 41-ball 32 runs innings as some kind of silver lining while ignoring the fact that those runs put extra pressure on the other batters to compensate for his nothing innings in the Powerplay. And the worst part? Rizwan is so stubborn he pulled the same thing against South Africa in the first game we lost.

A lot of these people genuinely think we don’t have any talent. They even wrote off Saim Ayub at one point! But now? They’ve completely flipped on him like they never doubted him in the first place.

It’s a disgrace, really.

The fan club are a hopeless bunch. OP should return his scholarship. Another notable member of the Rizwan fan club once claimed Babar can bat in the powerplay because he has the ability to score six fours in an over. Sums up their cricketing or perhaps their overall intelligence.
 
The fan club are a hopeless bunch. OP should return his scholarship. Another notable member of the Rizwan fan club once claimed Babar can bat in the powerplay because he has the ability to score six fours in an over. Sums up their cricketing or perhaps their overall intelligence.
Super over bro, it was super over.

Me and @mominsaigol tried to reason with him as much as we could in trying to explain to him the reason why Babar or Rizwan are not T20 opening material. We did our best to explain to him that the kind of players who open are the kind who you would trust to take down 20+ in an over if need be so, and this is not the case with Babar who has a balls per six ration of 50 odd even though he bats 16-20 balls in the powerplay. The guy confidently claimed it’s ok, Babar is skilled enough to hit 6x4 in the super over if push comes to shove.

We were shocked at the time when he made the claim. But the Almighty has His ways to make things turn to reality very soon for this lot, and not long after we saw the infamous super over v USA.

We saw what happened in the super over, but we also didn’t see Daytrader on this forum for a long time since.
 
Super over bro, it was super over.
Oh yes now I remember. But I'll guess he'll use the same logic for him to bat in the super over.

Me and @mominsaigol tried to reason with him as much as we could in trying to explain to him the reason why Babar or Rizwan are not T20 opening material. We did our best to explain to him that the kind of players who open are the kind who you would trust to take down 20+ in an over if need be so, and this is not the case with Babar who has a balls per six ration of 50 odd even though he bats 16-20 balls in the powerplay. The guy confidently claimed it’s ok, Babar is skilled enough to hit 6x4 in the super over if push comes to shove.

We were shocked at the time when he made the claim. But the Almighty has His ways to make things turn to reality very soon for this lot, and not long after we saw the infamous super over v USA.

We saw what happened in the super over, but we also didn’t see Daytrader on this forum for a long time since.
 
Super over bro, it was super over.

Me and @mominsaigol tried to reason with him as much as we could in trying to explain to him the reason why Babar or Rizwan are not T20 opening material. We did our best to explain to him that the kind of players who open are the kind who you would trust to take down 20+ in an over if need be so, and this is not the case with Babar who has a balls per six ration of 50 odd even though he bats 16-20 balls in the powerplay. The guy confidently claimed it’s ok, Babar is skilled enough to hit 6x4 in the super over if push comes to shove.

We were shocked at the time when he made the claim. But the Almighty has His ways to make things turn to reality very soon for this lot, and not long after we saw the infamous super over v USA.

We saw what happened in the super over, but we also didn’t see Daytrader on this forum for a long time since.
Tbf, I didn't expect a super over to come that quickly lol.

But like I said back then to @daytrader if and I repeat if a super over comes into play, Babar won't be seen anywhere.

Because even bobby does not believe he can hit 6 4's in a super over.
 
Tbf, I didn't expect a super over to come that quickly lol.

But like I said back then to @daytrader if and I repeat if a super over comes into play, Babar won't be seen anywhere.

Because even bobby does not believe he can hit 6 4's in a super over.
Another legend is @gazza619 who said Babar and Rizwan were doing a grand job as opening for Pakistan.
 
Another legend is @gazza619 who said Babar and Rizwan were doing a grand job as opening for Pakistan.
What's funny is that in t20, unless theirs some very rare case, openers or atleast one of the openers would always be sent to play super overs.

Aus would have 100% sent Warner and Travis in such a situation. England would have sent salt and butler and in the past hales and butler, Sa would 100% send qdk, they wouldn't send hendricks but case in point atleast one opener is representing them.

India would defi have sent rohit atleast, rohit and sky most likely.

NZ is defo sending finn Allen as one of the pairs and Afg is also sending Gurbaz.

Pakistan is the only team in the world that's too afraid to send a single opener in a super over, even though the sole job of an opener in t20 is to be destructive.
 
He is right. Imad Wasim played one of the most embarrassing innings in history of T20 cricket after his deluded fans spent a whole month advertising his ability to play under pressure and according to the match situation.

Imad himself spent a whole year criticizing the players on tv and highlighted their lack of match awareness.

When the time came for Imad to put his money where his mouth was and show how it is done, he failed with flying colors. None of the so-called coolness under pressure and match awareness were on display vs India.

If Imad didn’t play that match, his fans would have been adamant that had Imad played, he would have won the match for Pakistan in that situation. They would have said that he is made for those situations.

His deluded fans put all the blame on Rizwan and others and those players didn’t do a great job either, but the match was still in Pakistan’s grasp when Rizwan got out and Imad should have leveraged his so called experience and intelligence to play according to the situation.

His embarrassing whaffing vs Axar summed up the fraud that he is. That was the over when the momentum well and truly shifted towards India. He kept going for shots knowing that all other batsman had struggled to play shots on this pitch. All he had to do was knock the ball around for 1s and 2s and Pakistan would have won.

He batted at a SR of 65. Even if he batted at a SR of 70, Pakistan would have won. That innings summed up his career and summed up his fans as well, and it forever tarnished his reputation and the fake image and aura that he had created for himself.

It also proved that Pakistan missed out on nothing by keeping him out of the team for two years. The 2024 World Cup killed off the Imad myth once and for all and now he can’t even pretend to be a fake expert on tv. He fully deserved this humiliation.
The problem with extreme takes and seeing things in black and white is that you end up convincing no one except the people already nodding along in the same boat.

Let’s start with the obvious elephant in the room: the assumption that the world is split between “Imad fans who hate Rizwan” and “Rizwan fans who hate Imad.” Newsflash—there’s a whole bunch of people who don’t fit in either camp and just want to talk cricket without picking sides.

Now, let’s talk about Imad. Yeah, it was bad. He couldn’t walk the talk on "match awareness," which he loves to preach. But Imad is a bowling allrounder, and bowling is his primary gig. On that front, he wrapped up the tour with an economy of 4 across three games. How come this doesn’t get mentioned in your world?

Also, let’s not pretend chasing a target with a required rate of over 10 on a pitch where everyone struggled at 6 was “within grasp”. It should never have reached that stage in the first place.

Now to Rizwan. The Powerplay is the easiest phase to bat, and yet Rizwan’s slow innings wasted it completely. This wasn’t the kind of snail pace you can even forgive because it takes the game deep—he followed it up with a reckless shot against Bumrah as if he was trying to send a some kind of statement. Instead, he sent us straight to a loss. If you had to look for one moment we lost that game, that was it. A pathetic brain fade! How come this doesn’t get mentioned?

And the worst part is it’s neither old nor new. He did the same thing in the first T20I against South Africa, dropping anchor so hard that the team couldn’t chase the total with wickets in hand (after Saim Ayub was forced to bat one down). Rizwan is neither giving us explosive Powerplays nor the steady finishing innings he’s supposed to bring…but this of course is irrelevant.

Bottom line: blaming Imad and ignoring the top six—or letting Rizwan off the hook entirely—makes this post completely irrelevant, and at worse, a distraction. Both had their moments to step up and failed. If you're on team logic, not team "encampments," it's time to call both sides out.
 
Islamabad United vs Multan Sultans 🔥

Imad to do the DX Suck It x Siuuuuuuuu after hitting the winning runs.
 
It’s always amusing to read posts that make no sense at all. The claim that it was a “cakewalk” for Imad when he came out to bat is laughable. There was absolutely nothing “cakewalk” about that pitch. Such comments clearly show a lack of understanding of pitch conditions and the dynamics of the game.

Let me break it down: Imad, being an average or below average batsman, needed to be in touch and have had a few solid net sessions before stepping up to play for Pakistan. He had missed time due to injury and was clearly not in rhythm. This lack of touch becomes even more evident for players like him, unfit, out of shape, and known to be chain smoker. He was late to everything, moving sluggishly, almost like a turtle.

On that pitch, the game was always in the bowlers’ hands. It was a bowler’s paradise, and a player like Imad, who is just an “okay” batsman at best, could not be expected to turn things around. Yes, he’s marginally better than the others who compete for the same all rounder spot, but that’s not saying much. We gave Nawaz plenty of chances, and he was nothing short of disastrous.

Now, as for Imad’s performance in that match against India, let’s address his failure against Axar Patel. Playing so many dots at that critical juncture of the game was inexcusable, and the responsibility for that rests squarely on his shoulders. It doesn’t matter if he’s not a natural batsman or was injured before, he had a job to do and failed miserably.

This is even more ironic considering how Imad has often criticized Rizwan and Babar, claiming they don’t know how to play T20 cricket. He went on TV shows and ranted about their shortcomings, but what about his own performance? The very format he claims to understand so well is where he failed so spectacularly.

Let’s be honest: Imad’s innings was poor. He couldn’t even make proper contact with the ball, struggled to rotate the strike, and failed to take singles or doubles when the situation demanded it. At best, he’s a “bits and pieces” cricketer who improved slightly with experience. Even with all that experience, he still wasn’t good enough when it mattered most.

This toxic culture in Pakistan cricket, where players like Imad and Amir go on TV shows to spew nonsense about the likes of Babar and Rizwan, two of Pakistan’s best players who’ve won us countless games, is damaging to the sport. If anything, they should have focused on improving their own performances rather than tearing down those who have consistently delivered.
 
This is exactly the toxic culture I’m referring to. A match has just ended, and instead of focusing on the positives, Ali Tareen, during the post match presentation alongside another PCB official, chose to take a dig at a player. This is the same player who won back to back matches for his team, performed as an all-rounder, and played a key role in securing the PSL championship with consecutive Man of the Match awards. Yet here they are, making unnecessary comments about how Pakistan will supposedly struggle in the future, as if we were previously winning matches and tournaments for fun. Ali Tareen’s comments about Imad were entirely unnecessary and unwarranted.
 
Rizwan’s fans don’t harbor any hate toward Imad, but Imad’s fans seem to have issues not just with Rizwan but with Pakistan cricket as a whole. They criticize nearly everyone playing for Pakistan and apply a double standard when judging performances. For instance, they’ll quickly call out others for playing at a slow strike rate but won’t hold Imad or their favorite players to the same standard.
 
Rizwan’s fans don’t harbor any hate toward Imad
Who are you? The international spokesperson of Rizwan fans? This is a complete lie!

Rizwan fans are not Pakistan cricket fans. This is a truth I understood in 2019. I stand by this truth to this day. Rizwan fans created the divide, and now it will continue to stretch as long as he is here.
 
Its funny how nobodies that have no say in cricket and claim to be self appointed experts are bashing Ali Tareen here.

Ali Tareen has spent alot of money on South Punjab Cricket. He formed the Tareen Cricket Academy team, which participated in the tournament held at Moin Khan Academy. Players from Punjab and KP were flown to Karachi on his private jet and were provided with four-star accommodations, sponsorships, and top-tier branding even in Ramadan Tournament. He even arranged professional coaches and analysts for them during the tournament. Throughout the event, Ali Tareen was present at Moin Khan Academy. In Ramadan tournament in Karachi right after PSL 2019 and he was there local to scout some youngsters for upcoming tournaments. For South Punjab Region Cricket he established Tareen Academy, brought forgein coaches there
(CC RJ Shazib)
 
Major rates Misbah over Inzy in white ball cricket.

This thread is a good read if you ever need comic relief:

 
OP has a predictable pattern of agenda filled posts. Notable examples include:
  • Misbah being a superior batsman over Inzamam - pro-Misbah/anti-Inzamam agenda
  • Misbah never wanted Amir in Pakistan's team - pro-Misbah/anti-Amir agenda
  • Pakistan would have won the 2017 CT without Amir - as above
 
oh man imad fans will now discuss every off topic posts instead of coming to terms that Imad sucks, as said by a PSL team owner.

Keep hijacking threads. Thats the only thing they can do here
 
Its funny how that one post exposed him and now the poster is going around trying to get personal....

He now stands exposed......

Cakewalk turned into the last ever game for which IMad will forever be remembered for.
It was such a delight reading @daytrader posts and seeing how effectively he exposed them. That said, it’s nothing new. You, daytrader, and many others have exposed these posters time and again, but they remain so stubborn and shameless that they refuse to admit their mistakes and argue endlessly. Personally, I tend to avoid most of them because their understanding of cricket is akin to that of an eight year old. Whenever you try to reason with them, they either shift narratives, evade questions, or keep going in circles. It’s honestly hard to take them seriously.
 
Its funny how nobodies that have no say in cricket and claim to be self appointed experts are bashing Ali Tareen here.
Has Ali Tareen done a PHD in cricket?

Has he played first class/professional cricket?

Is he a professional coach with coaching badges?

What exactly is he that the people who are commenting on him are not? He might even be a lurker/poster on here like us for all we know.

So who are you to say we cannot comment on his bongis just like we comment on yours? Or he is entitled to defamatory statements against players on TV and we are not allowed to criticise him?
 
It was such a delight reading @daytrader posts and seeing how effectively he exposed them. That said, it’s nothing new. You, daytrader, and many others have exposed these posters time and again, but they remain so stubborn and shameless that they refuse to admit their mistakes and argue endlessly. Personally, I tend to avoid most of them because their understanding of cricket is akin to that of an eight year old. Whenever you try to reason with them, they either shift narratives, evade questions, or keep going in circles. It’s honestly hard to take them seriously.

"Imam is versatile enough to bat anywhere between positions 1 to 4 in ODIs". This is the kind of logic I would expect from someone who was dropped at birth. :ROFLMAO: 👏

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Has Ali Tareen done a PHD in cricket?

Has he played first class/professional cricket?

Is he a professional coach with coaching badges?

What exactly is he that the people who are commenting on him are not? He might even be a lurker/poster on here like us for all we know.

So who are you to say we cannot comment on his bongis just like we comment on yours? Or he is entitled to defamatory statements against players on TV and we are not allowed to criticise him?
Einstein, no Owner can make enough money from cricket to own a cricket team with 100% stake. Ali Tareen is a direct stakeholder. He owns a team, he funds a team, infact he funds a whole region and owns a cricket academy. While you are just a cricket fan.
 
Einstein, no Owner can make enough money from cricket to own a cricket team with 100% stake. Ali Tareen is a direct stakeholder. He owns a team, he funds a team, infact he funds a whole region and owns a cricket academy. While you are just a cricket fan.
Ali Tareen spends his papa’s money doing it. I would do more and spend more if I was from a similar privileged background. I have more knowledge of where and how much money needs to be spent on cricket development. I have a greater cricket brain than he does. Now what?
 
Ali Tareen spends his papa’s money doing it. I would do more and spend more if I was from a similar privileged background. I have more knowledge of where and how much money needs to be spent on cricket development. I have a greater cricket brain than he does. Now what?
sorry, no one cares about your fantasies of I would. Thing is do you? No you dont.

Your self claim of your vast knowledge on cricket means nothing sorry.

Thing is, he is a direct stakeholder and an owner of a team, so his words hold more value. Whether you like that or not. And the fact that a direct stakeholder is claiming that Imad was the reason why we lost a game, that only adds fuel to the fire.
 
sorry, no one cares about your fantasies of I would. Thing is do you? No you dont.

Your self claim of your vast knowledge on cricket means nothing sorry.

Thing is, he is a direct stakeholder and an owner of a team, so his words hold more value. Whether you like that or not. And the fact that a direct stakeholder is claiming that Imad was the reason why we lost a game, that only adds fuel to the fire.
I think you do care about what people who oppose Tareen’s bogus cricketing views about players have to say because it’s you who brought it up in the first place. Read up your own posts. So according to you, Tareen is allowed to chat nonsense because he spends on cricket, and people are not allowed to hold opposing views to him?

You made the thread so Imad could get bashed. Now that it has backfired majestically, you want to monopolise the one sided, nonsense view of Tareen with no criticism to it from anyone?
 
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@topspin

Should we start quoting SAF’s views on Batistuta now to validate Tareen’s views on Imad?

Have you ever come across cricket administrative professionals acting as immaturely as Ali Tareen has when referring to other players and officials?
 
I can admit during the contest when Imad came out to bat, I thought it was a cake walk. But after much reflection, I then came to the realisation that the last 10 overs was far more difficult to bat than the first 10 overs. Why do you think India lost 7 wickets for 30 runs in 8.4 overs?

Me pinning innings is irrelevant and very much a futile point.

You thought it was a cake walk because it was a cake walk! We were in a winning position. You're back tracking from how you actually felt during the match hence why your comments are disingenuous. You only come out with one agenda, bash Misbah and now bash Rizwan.

This has been exposed many times over.
Nope. You've misunderstood me because you don't understand the cricketing definition of what 5.5 overs is. It's 5 overs and 5 balls i.e. 35 balls. The fact that you don't understand basic cricketing terminology speaks volume about your understanding of cricket. But that's to be expected from someone who has a special appetite for mediocrity, which can be reflected by your blind following of Misbah and Rizwan.

Nice try with that flex of such basic maths to a mathematician. You should do this to someone @Major because he's a fellow Misbah/Rizwan supporter and by his own admission he had academic problems throughout his education.

One's a mathematician, one's a rhyme magician, both are stuck in the biggest hater's affiliation

Betta tere jaisy 36 ko mn akela hi lapaito - kar le maths

If you go watch the game again, you'll find Imad missed balls off the pitch, whereas Ifti missed like 4 full tosses. Whilst I've acknowledged Imad's innings wasn't good enough on numerous occasions, the fact that you're making out that both of these efforts are analogous is another fine example of your dishonesty.

I haven't seen any criticism from you about Imad. You're still trying to justify his batting by blaming it on the pitch and ball. Again admit you have only one agenda, which is to get high fives from your gang leader. Shahbash, he liked all your posts
 
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