DeadlyVenom
Senior Test Player
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The recent retirement of Ashwin got me thinking about the legacy of Asian spinners. There has been a lot of debate throughout Ashwins career about how ineffective he was overseas and how the pitches were at times rigged in a way that majorly assisted him.
Whatever side you stand on that debate - Some things cant be denied for all Asian spinners.
1. For an Asian spin bowler bowling in Asia is not the most difficult test of skills.
2. It is therefore more difficult to bowl in SENAW ( W is debatable but let's just keep it in for now).
3. When playing away in SENAW the chances of pitches being rigged to favour a touring Asian spinner is negligible - so we can use this as a leveller.
And point number 4
Five wicket hauls are the hall mark of a great bowler.
Many of these parameters have already been set on PP when measuring other bowlers. I hope you agree that this isn't a departure from any established norms.
Mushtaq's overall record is quite mediocre. He just didn't play enough matches, had an average over 30 and less than 200 wickets.
His overall career numbers slot in at the same level as Mehidy Miraz.
Now let's apply the filters - which again I hope it is seen as not doing anything too drastic.
Mushtaq has a decent record outside of Asia. Up there with more well known bowlers and a considerable level of 5 wicket hauls.
Let's go one step deeper and see how many outside of Asia wins he may have contributed to.
Thats an exceptional record. Mushtaq has 5 5fers in SENAW in winning Causes.
Now for the final point. W in SENAW is perhaps being generous because the team quality has dropped over the years and it might not do too much justice across eras to consider them.
Outside of Asia record of Asian Spinners without West Indies
Outside of Asia Record ( excluding WIndies) in wins
Ashwin completely drops out the list.
Whatever side you stand on that debate - Some things cant be denied for all Asian spinners.
1. For an Asian spin bowler bowling in Asia is not the most difficult test of skills.
2. It is therefore more difficult to bowl in SENAW ( W is debatable but let's just keep it in for now).
3. When playing away in SENAW the chances of pitches being rigged to favour a touring Asian spinner is negligible - so we can use this as a leveller.
And point number 4
Five wicket hauls are the hall mark of a great bowler.
Many of these parameters have already been set on PP when measuring other bowlers. I hope you agree that this isn't a departure from any established norms.
Mushtaq's overall record is quite mediocre. He just didn't play enough matches, had an average over 30 and less than 200 wickets.
His overall career numbers slot in at the same level as Mehidy Miraz.
Now let's apply the filters - which again I hope it is seen as not doing anything too drastic.
Mushtaq has a decent record outside of Asia. Up there with more well known bowlers and a considerable level of 5 wicket hauls.
Let's go one step deeper and see how many outside of Asia wins he may have contributed to.
Thats an exceptional record. Mushtaq has 5 5fers in SENAW in winning Causes.
Now for the final point. W in SENAW is perhaps being generous because the team quality has dropped over the years and it might not do too much justice across eras to consider them.
Outside of Asia record of Asian Spinners without West Indies
Outside of Asia Record ( excluding WIndies) in wins
Ashwin completely drops out the list.