Muslim–Jewish Relations & The Zionism Question — Can We Separate Faith from Politics?

[emranabbas]

Many Muslims genuinely respect Jews and Judaism. We see it as a faith with a long, rich history, and we honour the Torah and Prophet Moses. For centuries, Muslims and Jews have lived side by side, sharing neighbourhoods, trade, culture, and even scholarship.


At the same time, many of us make a clear distinction between that respect and the political ideology of Zionism. Zionism began in the late 1800s as a movement to create a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Its implementation, especially the creation of Israel in 1948, displaced hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and sparked conflicts that continue to this day.


So, it’s possible to respect Jews as people and Judaism as a faith while opposing Zionism as a political project. It’s not about religion, it’s about politics, human rights, and the impact on real people.


It’s crucial to separate Judaism from Zionism:

• Judaism is a 3,000+ year-old religion, culture, and identity.
• Zionism is a modern nationalist political ideology started in 1880.
• Not all Jews are Zionists — some oppose Zionism on theological, ethical, or political grounds.
• Not all Zionists are Jews — many Christian Zionists and political allies promote it for their own reasons.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Can you confirm, when you like and celebrate comments about Imran Khans "Jewish" sons are you saying it is a term of respect and honor or using it as a pejorative?
Your thread is all well and good and I agree with it, but if you are comfortable with throwing Jewish around as an insult then you are not practicing what you preach.

 

[Technics 1210]

The Israel we see today is a secular Isreal and not founded upon the laws of Judaism. Judaism has literally taken a side step in Israel.

Since being sentence to eternal exile, the Unorthodox Jew has been kicked out of 116 countries. 116.

Zionism is nothing but a political motive underpinning the return to the promised land so the Jew is not kicked out - but for this, the Talmud (unofficial scripture) stated that 6 Million Jews must first suffer. Yup you guessed it, this is why 6M had to die, but I am convinced, it was all a hoax. This number of victims were reported since WW1!

You cannot separate Zionism from Israel - snap poll in Israel reveals over 80% want Gazans out, but you can separate Zionism from Judaism, orthodox Jews dismiss the Talmud, and follow the Torah - these very Jews will testify that 2 further messengers of God will arrive after Moses (PBUH) one on a donkey, the other on a camel. You can guess whose who.

The real Jew is a wanderer, there is no soil for them, they wander, as per the Torah, as per the last sermon by Moses (PBUH) - curse be the ground you walk on for you shall never see peace.

 

[emranabbas]

Can you confirm, when you like and celebrate comments about Imran Khans "Jewish" sons are you saying it is a term of respect and honor or using it as a pejorative?
Your thread is all well and good and I agree with it, but if you are comfortable with throwing Jewish around as an insult then you are not practicing what you preach.

Perhaps you haven’t fully read my thread, especially the last two lines, and have already started pushing your PTI propaganda.

Please don’t derail this thread like PTI supporters do with every other discussion.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Ideally Muslims and Jews should be natural allies. Same Prophets and many overlapping customs.

 

[sweep_shot]

Zionism is not a religious project. It is a secular project originated in Europe. Founder of Zionism wasn't even a religious Jew.

There are some Jews who oppose state of Israel and Zionism. Here is one example:

 

[bones]

Ideally Muslims and Jews should be natural allies. Same Prophets and many overlapping customs.

Have you read some of the translations of the Talmud? They see themselves as not just enlightened which every faith does, but they see themselves as superior. The "goyim" or "gentiles" are considered inferior and should be slaves according to their scriptures.

The majority of Israelis see themselves as superior to everyone else. There is a huge clampdown on social and mainstream media to not expose these views. Can you imagine how the west would react if they found out the common Israelis thinks of them as lower than dirt on their shoes.

We were always told the Indians were the enemy and the Indians were tought we were the enemy to them. Both sets of populations are stupid beyond belief, the real enemy are the Zionists, that contol the central banks around the world and dictate all the oppressive policies.

If Pakistan and India had an ocean between them, there would be no hatred. It would be like Spain and Japan, no hatred.