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Mustafizur Rahman v Mohammad Amir - BPL (2016)

I am thankful to BD fans for supporting Amir's first International appearance after his ban. They supported him whole heartedly many of his own country men are after his life like he is second coming of Hitler and all Pakistan's corruption hinges upon keep punishing him. Some how that is a high moral ground!! - Some of this has to do with the rise of Mustafizur, who's role model is Amir.

Rather than comparing and pitting them against each other, it would be lot better for Mustafizur to learn from Amir as much as he can. Amir can help him a lot to grow and evolve as a fast bowler. That is some thing BD administration and fan base should look forward too. Developing a fast bowling culture is paramount for having diverse and rich cricketing culture, BD can invest in it, they have the opportunity, can use this relationship as a vehicle. It takes couple of bowlers to start the traditions, generations can follow later!!
 
Dios said:
Why are you even bringing up Tests? Mustafizur has only bowled 16 overs in Test cricket against one of the top sides on dead wickets and taken 4 wickets.

Why not talk about ODIs where they both have played a little bit. Mustafizur in 9 matches has more wickets than Amir does in 15 matches. And I said it's unlikely Amir can come back and do what Mustafizur has done. In fact not only Amir no one in the world has done what Mustafizur has at the start of his career. Mustafizur has the most number of wickets after playing nine matches.
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Mustafizur Rahman is a Chucker, watch his off-cutter delivery, and you will know.
 
KeyboardWarrior said:
Mustafizur Rahman is a Chucker, watch his off-cutter delivery, and you will know.
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Lol you must be in some sorts of druggs when you see mustafiz bowling and chucking, even i start to think some people even by their post doesn't have idea what is chuck and what not. If you think by all way msutafiz chuck then i can say aamir chucks too.. So what ?
 
This is my first post in this thread, i am not a fan of comparing two completely different bowlers, yet with similar actions.

Mustafizur is a bowler who just started off his career and is learning the traditions of trade with zero guidance.
Amir is a bowler who had the guidance of greats like Wasim and other pace bowlers in Pakistan. Regardless he was a genuine fast bowler who had everything in his armoury. Mustafiz has a lethal cutter, almost unreadable though he has a very smart brain.

It will always be unfair to compare two bowlers. Remember one is 19 and the other is 23 and has been in the cricket circuit for a long time. Both have potential to be greats of the game. And to judge these players based on BPL is a complete travesty because our domestic batsman are just substandard and performances against them should not gauge the ability of a pace bowler
 
Amir is more exciting to watch, but Mustafizur has an Asif-like genius about him. Both these bowlers have a lot to prove, but my vote goes to the Bangladeshi as Mustafizur has been sensational throughout his career while Amir has been seen struggling quite often.
 
Shaan said:
Lol you must be in some sorts of druggs when you see mustafiz bowling and chucking, even i start to think some people even by their post doesn't have idea what is chuck and what not. If you think by all way msutafiz chuck then i can say aamir chucks too.. So what ?
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kido, ask to the bowling experts, and learn , i said about his off-cutter, not about all deliveries.
his off-cutter is dubious. he is going to have some tough time on overseas tours with umpires.
 
KeyboardWarrior said:
kido, ask to the bowling experts, and learn , i said about his off-cutter, not about all deliveries.
his off-cutter is dubious. he is going to have some tough time on overseas tours with umpires.
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Lol, u hv got no idea what you r talking about.
Mustafiz has rubber wrists. No way in hell does he employ the straightening of his elbow.
It is al amin and cooper who are chucking
 
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KeyboardWarrior said:
kido, ask to the bowling experts, and learn , i said about his off-cutter, not about all deliveries.
his off-cutter is dubious. he is going to have some tough time on overseas tours with umpires.
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Yes mr senior, you are a wrong person to judge what mustafizur doing when bowling, all the world have seen him bowling and making fool of batsman none has ever questioned his action, and then you a computer sitter experts giving your own opinion why should anyone care, as i said same way to me aamir chucks? So what i may be right in my own veiw as you are seeing things your own haphazard, illusional way..
 
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Lol, u hv got no idea what you r talking about.
Mustafiz has rubber wrists. No way in hell does he employ the straightening of his elbow.
It is al amin and cooper who are chucking
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sure, just bump this thread when hes gonna report for suspect bowling action.
 
Shaan said:
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Yes mr senior, you are a wrong person to judge what mustafizur doing when bowling, all the world have seen him bowling and making fool of batsman none has ever questioned his action, and then you a computer sitter experts giving your own opinion why should anyone care, as i said same way to me aamir chucks? So what i may be right in my own veiw as you are seeing things your own haphazard, illusional way..
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just wait and watch.
 
There is absolutely no way that Mustafizur chucks. No not even his cutter.

If there was a bit of chucking involved then teams would have easily been able to counter him knowing that his arm action changes when delivering the cutter, he uses only his wrists.

On the other hand, Al amin has a dodgy action, i won't deny that but he has been tested once and cleared which is why i feel that perhaps it could be because of the hyperextension of his arms which should be the case. His off cutter in particular, the rest of his deliveries are fine though
 
KeyboardWarrior said:
Mustafizur Rahman is a Chucker, watch his off-cutter delivery, and you will know.
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Wont call him a chucker upfront but you have a point. His few deliveries look suspicious. There are few other fast bowler who has dodgy action too. ICC not in a mood to crackdown of fast bowlers yet but once they do many bowlers will come under suspicion.
[MENTION=5774]Shaan[/MENTION] - Amir's action is as clean as it gets. I might not in favour of him playing again but calling him a chucker is funny.

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Zak_Fan said:
Amir is more exciting to watch, but Mustafizur has an Asif-like genius about him. Both these bowlers have a lot to prove, but my vote goes to the Bangladeshi as Mustafizur has been sensational throughout his career while Amir has been seen struggling quite often.
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Lol comparing mutafizur to asif now what has earth come to....
And through out his career the way you are talking is as if he has been playing for 10 years
The guy only played handful of matches against 2 young sides and he is being compared with Amir and Asif.

Its not that i have doubt about mustafizur's talunt
But its like comparing a donkey with a horse at the race course

1 is still a newbie who played few matches at home
The other 2 are already classed as world class bowlers even after not playing for 5 years.

Mustafizur is at best can be compared to junaid khan of 2012 thats all.
 
tahir_dj said:
Lol comparing mutafizur to asif now what has earth come to....
And through out his career the way you are talking is as if he has been playing for 10 years
The guy only played handful of matches against 2 young sides and he is being compared with Amir and Asif.

Its not that i have doubt about mustafizur's talunt
But its like comparing a donkey with a horse at the race course

1 is still a newbie who played few matches at home
The other 2 are already classed as world class bowlers even after not playing for 5 years.

Mustafizur is at best can be compared to junaid khan of 2012 thats all.
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Junaid Khan had pace and swing at the time.
Muztafizur is a better version of Imran Khan Jr.
 
kassana420 said:
Junaid Khan had pace and swing at the time.
Muztafizur is a better version of Imran Khan Jr.
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I know but since they cant get over comparing him to Amir than i can best compare him to junaid khan...��
 
Mustafizur will be found out and like Sohail Tanvir will be going for plenty on his bad day against a good batting side.
 
I wish Mustafizur can make it big but mentioned Sohail Tanvir and him in same lines because when Tanvir came on he was very difficult to play and had a bright start to his career, Very different bowler to face. Mustafizur is also different sort of bowler relying on cutters and variations.
 
Everybody here who is comparing mustafiz to imran khan jr need to get their heads right.
Immy jr us a nothing bowler, literally a nothing bowler with only slower balls in his armoury.

Mustafiz is totally different.
He can actually crank it up over 135 and I hv seen him get up to 144 against south africa.

However, at the same time, he is no way comparable to amir as Amir tries to target the pads of the righties with his inswing.
Mustafiz takes it away, be it through away swing or his ridiculously sharp cutters.

So far he hasn't shown the ability to bring it back, after which only one can compare him to amir

Mustafiz imho is a better version of nathan bracken


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axl100mph said:
Everybody here who is comparing mustafiz to imran khan jr need to get their heads right.
Immy jr us a nothing bowler, literally a nothing bowler with only slower balls in his armoury.

Mustafiz is totally different.
He can actually crank it up over 135 and I hv seen him get up to 144 against south africa.

However, at the same time, he is no way comparable to amir as Amir tries to target the pads of the righties with his inswing.
Mustafiz takes it away, be it through away swing or his ridiculously sharp cutters.

So far he hasn't shown the ability to bring it back, after which only one can compare him to amir

Mustafiz imho is a better version of nathan bracken


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Those deliveries don't help much when the lefties own him.
 
Shaan said:
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Lol calm down we know how aamir started so de we know how mustafiz started so far mustafiz recod of starting say mustafiz a way better bowler then aamir, don't beleive ask your entire batting line up and saffers who tonk you in odi mustafiz toyed de coq in odi. Mustafiz the man who took 3 consequative 5wkts haul within 9 matches. That's a record. Now aamir is coming back lets see how he does in international level. Bpl just started mustafiz and aamir will have enough time to haul wickets. One game doesn't say much about both of them. But as i said msutafizur has done in international level in limited over wihtin short time what aamir couldn't do. Yes aamir does have swing may be you love swing but mustafizur has his own variations which are probably more difficult for batsman to cope with then just swings. It is not like that other bowlers doesn't have swing, probbably swing is th e one you love but end result is how you foax out batsman and tha's what mustafizur has done so far kicking entire batting line up with his own tricky deliveries not once but thrice and some big fishes two or three times in same series. Now you passion for aamir is your's but still mustafizur is ahead of aamir by the record which is fact. Now you deny it or not fact still sat as fact. Lets see how future turned them which direction.
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Talk with us when your legendary bowler bowls a nice over against a top team like Australia and takes at least 3 wickets in an over. Until then, you may hype your BD bowler as much as you want for the sake of satisfaction.
 
After 9 BPL matches so far (both played all matches so far for their team)

Amir 14 wickets, average 12.64, economy 5.56 and strike rate 13.6 (one 4fer) (Amir conceded 177 runs in 31.5 overs and bowled 2 maidens)

Mustafiz 12 wickets, average 16.08, economy 5.76 and strike rate 16.7 (no 4 fer) (Mustafiz conceded 193 runs in 33.3 overs and bowled 1 maiden)
 
Strike Rate said:
After 9 BPL matches so far (both played all matches so far for their team)

Amir 14 wickets, average 12.64, economy 5.56 and strike rate 13.6 (one 4fer) (Amir conceded 177 runs in 31.5 overs and bowled 2 maidens)

Mustafiz 12 wickets, average 16.08, economy 5.76 and strike rate 16.7 (no 4 fer) (Mustafiz conceded 193 runs in 33.3 overs and bowled 1 maiden)
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Amir needs 3 more to be the top wicket taker :D
Before CV gets knocked out..LOL
 
Both have done really well but both are different kind of bowlers and you cant really compare them.

Mustafiz relies more on cutters, seamers and change of pace to bamboozle his opposition.. Aamir on the other hand is a fast bowler, he can can swing seam cut york and bounce the batsmen at good pace.. Both bowlers have really good control, though i think mustafiz has the best cutter and slow delivery in the game at the moment.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Both have done really well but both are different kind of bowlers and you cant really compare them.

Mustafiz relies more on cutters, seamers and change of pace to bamboozle his opposition.. Aamir on the other hand is a fast bowler, he can can swing seam cut york and bounce the batsmen at good pace.. Both bowlers have really good control, though i think mustafiz has the best cutter and slow delivery in the game at the moment.
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Windies Santokie and Mustafiz are similar bowler
 
JibranAnsari said:
Both have done really well but both are different kind of bowlers and you cant really compare them.

Mustafiz relies more on cutters, seamers and change of pace to bamboozle his opposition.. Aamir on the other hand is a fast bowler, he can can swing seam cut york and bounce the batsmen at good pace.. Both bowlers have really good control, though i think mustafiz has the best cutter and slow delivery in the game at the moment.
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Agreed.
But if tops guns like ABD or Warner predict the deliveries he bowls, that can end bad.
Hope he increases his pace.
 
Amir is better with the new ball and Mustafizur is far superior with the old ball. That's why Mustafizur isn't doing much damage in T20s because at most the ball will get 20 overs old.
 
I think Aamir is finally operation at 40-50% capacity right now to how we saw him in 2009-2010 season which is good to see.

I think he shouldn't be rushed in the India series and should get more match practice to at least come to a 75% level until we introduce him in the starting XI



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Dios said:
Amir is better with the new ball and Mustafizur is far superior with the old ball. That's why Mustafizur isn't doing much damage in T20s because at most the ball will get 20 overs old.
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Isn't Shahid the better bowler? Far superior stats than Mustafizur.

I understand that Mustafizur is the better bowler because he has better stats than Amir, but you seem to totally ignore Shahid who is wreaking havoc. Or was, at least.
 
kassana420 said:
Agreed.
But if tops guns like ABD or Warner predict the deliveries he bowls, that can end bad.
Hope he increases his pace.
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He will learn, definitely the batsmen will try to find a way to play him out safely.. The key here is the difficult angle that mustafizur is able to create.. This is the same angle which amir and wasim create... On top of that he bowls a nagging length that a batsman feels compelled to play at.. From what i have seen he usually takes the ball away from right handers.. To be more successful he needs to add one which comes into the right handers.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
I think Aamir is finally operation at 40-50% capacity right now to how we saw him in 2009-2010 season which is good to see.

I think he shouldn't be rushed in the India series and should get more match practice to at least come to a 75% level until we introduce him in the starting XI



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Oo bhai, he is 90 % there
Just needs to get more emergy into the run up
rest is all there
 
JibranAnsari said:
He will learn, definitely the batsmen will try to find a way to play him out safely.. The key here is the difficult angle that mustafizur is able to create.. This is the same angle which amir and wasim create... On top of that he bowls a nagging length that a batsman feels compelled to play at.. From what i have seen he usually takes the ball away from right handers.. To be more successful he needs to add one which comes into the right handers.
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Yes.
But I have also observed his weakness when it comes to left-handers.
He just angles it in.
 
axl100mph said:
Oo bhai, he is 90 % there
Just needs to get more emergy into the run up
rest is all there
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Nah bro [emoji41] I still believe Aamir has more in him to offer. Trust me he's operating at max 60%


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ahmedwaqas92 said:
I think Aamir is finally operation at 40-50% capacity right now to how we saw him in 2009-2010 season which is good to see.

I think he shouldn't be rushed in the India series and should get more match practice to at least come to a 75% level until we introduce him in the starting XI



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I think he is there. He needs to play at international level ASAP!
 
Different bowlers no doubt.

But not sure why people claiming that Mustafiz iz slow. His ball can reach up to 140kph. Not express but good enough.
 
kassana420 said:
Yes.
But I have also observed his weakness when it comes to left-handers.
He just angles it in.
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He will learn with experience that where to bowl to left handers.. Hopefully he learns how to swing the ball... That would be icing on the cake.. He is very young.. A lot of time to learn the art.
 
Executioner said:
Different bowlers no doubt.

But not sure why people claiming that Mustafiz iz slow. His ball can reach up to 140kph. Not express but good enough.
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I just said what I observed. He doesn't hurry the batsman like other bowlers.
Ghussa he kar jatay ho.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
I think Aamir is finally operation at 40-50% capacity right now to how we saw him in 2009-2010 season which is good to see.

I think he shouldn't be rushed in the India series and should get more match practice to at least come to a 75% level until we introduce him in the starting XI



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In a t20 match you can only show this much.. He is getting swing seam and bounce which no one else in the bpl is getting.. He is bowling quick.. I think averaging around 138 and can crank up an odd one usually a yorker to 144. I think he is 80 percent there as far as ability goes.
 
kassana420 said:
I just said what I observed. He doesn't hurry the batsman like other bowlers.
Ghussa he kar jatay ho.
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He isnt quick but he is definitely not santokie level slow.
Can crank it to 138-141 when needed

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kassana420 said:
But with no swing on offer, 138kph is much easier to negotiate.
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Yeah, he doesnt swing it.
Even if he does, he just angles it away from the righties. Doesnt bring it back
which makes him no way near as threatening as amir.

At best, mustafiz is a better version of bracken

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axl100mph said:
Yeah, he doesnt swing it.
Even if he does, he just angles it away from the righties. Doesnt bring it back
which makes him no way near as threatening as amir.

At best, mustafiz is a better version of bracken

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haha..Bas yehi sun na tha main ne.
I can sleep peacefully now :D
 
kassana420 said:
But with no swing on offer, 138kph is much easier to negotiate.
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Yeah he is so easy to negotiate that's why his average is below 20 in Tests and ODIs and South African and Indian batsmen found him so easy to negotiate right?

I don't care if he bowls 100 kph as long as he keeps owning batsmen in international cricket.
 
Dios said:
Yeah he is so easy to negotiate that's why his average is below 20 in Tests and ODIs and South African and Indian batsmen found him so easy to negotiate right?

I don't care if he bowls 100 kph as long as he keeps owning batsmen in international cricket.
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Pace is pace yaaaaaaaar!
 
aliasad1998 said:
[MENTION=137485]Dios[/MENTION] and [MENTION=133483]Energetic[/MENTION] will make the excuse that ball doesnt get old in t20s
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The only thing Mustafizur Rahman and Mohammad Amir have in common is that the first part of both of their full names starts with the letter "M".
 
Suleiman said:
The only thing Mustafizur Rahman and Mohammad Amir have in common is that the first part of both of their full names starts with the letter "M".
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and both of them can swing the ball and know how to bowl good bouncers... oh wait
 
Bangladesh_Fan said:
That's a rubbish team slsection, probably by M.Isam. How can he pick Mashrafe ahead of Cooper. And BTW if you are judging players based on this tournament then have to admit Cooper > Amir as well
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don't blame me, thread title is Amir vs Mustafizur BPL PERFORMANCE WATCH.

And now that Amir edges out against Mustafizzler in the the tournament you're blaming me for sticking to the topic :)))
 
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Suleiman said:
don't blame me, thread title is Amir vs Mustafizur BPL PERFORMANCE WATCH.

And now that Amir edges out against Mustafizzler in the the tournament you're blaming me for sticking to the topic :)))
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Your posts are trying to make the point Amir is a better bowler than Mustafizur just by BPL performance, which is the faulty logic I am pointing out not that whose BPL performance is better. And btw his was only marginally better.

With your logic Haider > Amir and Cooper > Amir
 
Bangladesh_Fan said:
Your posts are trying to make the point Amir is a better bowler than Mustafizur just by BPL performance, which is the faulty logic I am pointing out not that whose BPL performance is better. And btw his was only marginally better.

With your logic Haider > Amir and Cooper > Amir
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This is not true, I saw Cooper's spell, he did not bowl better than Amir. You just don't look at the final stats only, that is poor way of judging or analyzing(BTW: difference between their stats is marginal as well). Cooper may have taken more wickets but that does not means he bowls better than Amir, the number of high quality balls Amir bowls more than any body else, that too at higher pace. He had much better control, he was swinging more and that too at higher pace. If you ask any international coach or team owner based on BPL performance, who they will pick Cooper or Amir? - I bet you overwhelming number of them will go for Amir.
 
There is no question Amir is the better bowler. He is making a come back after long lay-off and still performed better. With a bit more practice and exposure, and the fact that he is hungry and a man on a mission with a point to prove, I just dont see how Mustafaziur will outperform him.
 
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This is not true, I saw Cooper's spell, he did not bowl better than Amir. You just don't look at the final stats only, that is poor way of judging or analyzing(BTW: difference between their stats is marginal as well). Cooper may have taken more wickets but that does not means he bowls better than Amir, the number of high quality balls Amir bowls more than any body else, that too at higher pace. He had much better control, he was swinging more and that too at higher pace. If you ask any international coach or team owner based on BPL performance, who they will pick Cooper or Amir? - I bet you overwhelming number of them will go for Amir.
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which is why he is in the team of the tournament XI ahead of Mustafizzler and Cooper scooper. But no ofc not, Bangla fans here are more qualified than the paid cricket analysts on cricinfo :))
 
Stewie said:
There is no question Amir is the better bowler. He is making a come back after long lay-off and still performed better. With a bit more practice and exposure, and the fact that he is hungry and a man on a mission with a point to prove, I just dont see how Mustafaziur will outperform him.
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Suleiman said:
which is why he is in the team of the tournament XI ahead of Mustafizzler and Cooper scooper. But no ofc not, Bangla fans here are more qualified than the paid cricket analysts on cricinfo :))
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As a fan I am only concern about Amir's fitness. He has best technique of all the left arm bowlers including Strac and Boult. His control on wrist is exceptional, his runup, delivery stride, rotation of arm all still very good. BTW, he will gain more pace as he plays more cricket, he still has control at that pace, mainly because he has exceptional technique. I have said many times, in last 25 years I have not seen a left arm bowler with such a complete technique, he matches Wasim in every aspect.

BBL did not pick him up this time around, otherwise people would have seen what he can do on bouncy pitches, wait till next year. Again if he remains fit, he will be hot bowler not for Pakistan but for many of these T20 leagues!! - His skills and technique both are exceptional
 
Even Bengalis are picking Amir over Mustazfir in the BPL11. Hope this settles it for the overly emotional Bengalis who called Mustazfiur the 'best bowling prospect from the subcontinent in the past decade"
 
I think Mustazfiur is a good bowler but a lot of what he offers is in terms of deception and unfortunately, that can be found out.

The thing is, no team is spending hours watching video of his bowling action because he plays for Bangladesh, lets see how he does in the World t20.
 
Mustafizur just started his career. There are no pace programs, centres etc in Bangladesh. Pitches sucks for fast bowlers in Bangladesh, yet the guy is showing his potential. He will learn for sure. He knows how to bowl. He's intelligent. He will master how to swing and seam with time from what I've seen. He did bowl a wonderful inswinger in that Zimbabwe series, so that's proof enough for me he will develop. He's confident too.

Amir on the other hand is experienced, and has more resources at his sleeves. Definitely quick. Don't know why Pakistan are messing with this guy. Do you think he will play in England?
 
This wasn't even a comparison to begin with, have been saying this all along :facepalm: The gap in abilities is too far apart.
 
Energetic said:
Mustafizur just started his career. There are no pace programs, centres etc in Bangladesh. Pitches sucks for fast bowlers in Bangladesh, yet the guy is showing his potential. He will learn for sure. He knows how to bowl. He's intelligent. He will master how to swing and seam with time from what I've seen. He did bowl a wonderful inswinger in that Zimbabwe series, so that's proof enough for me he will develop. He's confident too.

Amir on the other hand is experienced, and has more resources at his sleeves. Definitely quick. Don't know why Pakistan are messing with this guy. Do you think he will play in England?
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Dont listen to these haters

Mustaifiz ur Rahman >> Amir and Steyn :)
 
ICYMI

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Gayle > Afridi + Misbah + Hafeez (combined)
 
Dios said:
Lol let Amir be in the BPL XI. Mustafizur is in the ICC XI.
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Carry on fooling yourself
Icc xi is for last 1 year not forlast 10 year

Musti might be good based on few ODIs at home
But Aamir is in league of his own.

Off cutters are not enough to make you legend

He is at best can be compared to buvishne kumar who at start was very good but now no where to be found.

Musti will be around bangladesh team longer because there are no other decent pacer for your team
 
I wonder what the timeline is for Mustafizur to get found out? Can someone give me an approximate estimation for when I should expect Mustafiz to become useless and nowhere to be found? Because at the moment he is owning batsmen everywhere he plays.
 
Dios said:
I wonder what the timeline is for Mustafizur to get found out? Can someone give me an approximate estimation for when I should expect Mustafiz to become useless and nowhere to be found? Because at the moment he is owning batsmen everywhere he plays.
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Quit being a fanboy please. Jingoistic fanboys just annoy the hell out of everyone, and that goes for some Pakistani fans too.

Mustafizur is a great bowler, and I actually rate him better than Bhuvi as well (cutter are more effective than swing as they rely less on conditions). I also see shades of Asif in him. However, Amir and Asif are world class bowlers with a proven track record. Until Mustafizur can travel abroad and uproot quality batting lineups in pressure situations--something Amir and Asif have both done, as well as take out quality players like Dravid/Laxman/Tendulkar, he can't be compared to Amir even if he's very talented.
 
IcedCoffee said:
Quit being a fanboy please. Jingoistic fanboys just annoy the hell out of everyone, and that goes for some Pakistani fans too.

Mustafizur is a great bowler, and I actually rate him better than Bhuvi as well (cutter are more effective than swing as they rely less on conditions). I also see shades of Asif in him. However, Amir and Asif are world class bowlers with a proven track record. Until Mustafizur can travel abroad and uproot quality batting lineups in pressure situations--something Amir and Asif have both done, as well as take out quality players like Dravid/Laxman/Tendulkar, he can't be compared to Amir even if he's very talented.
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LOL, do u still think that mustafizur hasn't bowled against any quality player yet ? Perhaps it's high time for u to start watching international matches regularly.

He single handedly won couple of matches for bd against India in pitches which had nothing for the fast bowlers. He used his brain along with his superior skill to fool quite a few Indian & south African batsman who r considered as some of the best batsman in the world.

Who r these so called quality players from Australia u r referring to? Maxwell, Warner, Smith?? Lol. Players like kohiI, amla, duplessis are 100 times better than those hard track bullies and all of them struggled against mustafizur. Why do u even think that same thing won't happen to these so called quality batsman (lol) from Australia.

Lastly, stop exaggerating about amir's bowling quality. He is a good bowler but u guys sound like he is from some another planet. Yet when I look at the odi carrier of amir it doesn't show anything extraordinary.

If the odi performance of amir and mustafizur are compared against each other then it will clearly show that so far mustafizur has totally outperformed amir. But for some strange reason some posters still have the delusion that amir is better than mustafizur even when the records of the both players r saying something else.
 
Mustafiz has a better record than Amir in literally every single format. By that I mean Test, ODI, T20I, FC, List A, T20. But Amir is the better bowler because he looks like the better bowler. You can keep his pace, swing and what not, I'll take the actual performance of Mustafiz any day.
 
Prince_ said:
LOL, do u still think that mustafizur hasn't bowled against any quality player yet ? Perhaps it's high time for u to start watching international matches regularly.

He single handedly won couple of matches for bd against India in pitches which had nothing for the fast bowlers. He used his brain along with his superior skill to fool quite a few Indian & south African batsman who r considered as some of the best batsman in the world.

Who r these so called quality players from Australia u r referring to? Maxwell, Warner, Smith?? Lol. Players like kohiI, amla, duplessis are 100 times better than those hard track bullies and all of them struggled against mustafizur. Why do u even think that same thing won't happen to these so called quality batsman (lol) from Australia.

Lastly, stop exaggerating about amir's bowling quality. He is a good bowler but u guys sound like he is from some another planet. Yet when I look at the odi carrier of amir it doesn't show anything extraordinary.

If the odi performance of amir and mustafizur are compared against each other then it will clearly show that so far mustafizur has totally outperformed amir. But for some strange reason some posters still have the delusion that amir is better than mustafizur even when the records of the both players r saying something else.
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No, batsmen like Ponting, Tendulkar, KP, Cook, trott and many others, and that too in pressure situations in tests. Mustafizur has yet to face that, and his cutters alone won't be enough. When he can possess all the attributes of a quality fast bowler and can bowl in conditions that require bowlers to have an effective bouncer and ball that swings into the batsmen, then we'll see. Until then, he has a long way to go. Saying his stats are better than Amir is like saying a debut batsman is better than Bradman when he scores a 100 on debut and his average spikes to 150 odd.
 
IcedCoffee said:
No, batsmen like Ponting, Tendulkar, KP, Cook, trott and many others, and that too in pressure situations in tests. Mustafizur has yet to face that, and his cutters alone won't be enough. When he can possess all the attributes of a quality fast bowler and can bowl in conditions that require bowlers to have an effective bouncer and ball that swings into the batsmen, then we'll see. Until then, he has a long way to go. Saying his stats are better than Amir is like saying a debut batsman is better than Bradman when he scores a 100 on debut and his average spikes to 150 odd.
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Amir played only 15 odis compared to Musta's 9 ODI, Amir is no Akram yet. He is worshipped as the messiah here, even though he is a fixer.
 
yasir said:
As a fan I am only concern about Amir's fitness. He has best technique of all the left arm bowlers including Strac and Boult. His control on wrist is exceptional, his runup, delivery stride, rotation of arm all still very good. BTW, he will gain more pace as he plays more cricket, he still has control at that pace, mainly because he has exceptional technique. I have said many times, in last 25 years I have not seen a left arm bowler with such a complete technique, he matches Wasim in every aspect.

BBL did not pick him up this time around, otherwise people would have seen what he can do on bouncy pitches, wait till next year. Again if he remains fit, he will be hot bowler not for Pakistan but for many of these T20 leagues!! - His skills and technique both are exceptional
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Starc>Amir>Mustafizur.
 
Dios said:
Yeah he is so easy to negotiate that's why his average is below 20 in Tests and ODIs and South African and Indian batsmen found him so easy to negotiate right?

I don't care if he bowls 100 kph as long as he keeps owning batsmen in international cricket.
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Arrey yaar. Bangla pitches grip the ball a little more and his cutters will work there. The Indian and SA teams were emotionally spent in the WC and seemed jaded in BD. Also, he was new and there was the surprise factor. Quality batsmen will adapt very quickly and if you think he'll be the same force in the future, you are delusional. Taskin on the other hand has the potential to be very good. Mustafizur should dream to be half as good as Chaminda Vaas.
 
I can only say one thing.

Amir Plays for Pakistan and Mustafizur plays for Bangladesh. Now decide what you may with this sentence and if it annoys you to sleep at night then SO BE IT.
 
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