National selector says Salman Butt national selection has not been approved yet by PCB

[MenInG]

Ijaz Ahmed Jr. speaking to the press:


"This decision [to select Salman Butt] basically belongs to the Pakistan Cricket Board, obviously this is talked about and we can also see the performances; We have spoken to Misbah about this issue also but basically this is the Board's decision; When we get a decision from the Board on this then we will consider him"

"Us selectors are available for every player so we are keeping an eye on any player who is performing, whether its Salman Butt or another"

"Main thing is that we have some instructions about some players - when we get a decision from the board to consider certain players, then we will consider"

 

[SensiblePakFan]

The one issue everyone can praise the PCB for.

 

[MenInG]

Ijaz Ahmed Jr. speaking to the press:


"This decision [to select Salman Butt] basically belongs to the Pakistan Cricket Board, obviously this is talked about and we can also see the performances; We have spoken to Misbah about this issue also but basically this is the Board's decision; When we get a decision from the Board on this then we will consider him"

"Us selectors are available for every player so we are keeping an eye on any player who is performing, whether its Salman Butt or another"

"Main thing is that we have some instructions about some players - when we get a decision from the board to consider certain players, then we will consider"

"Any player who is part of the domestic setup can be considered for international selection, of course Salman is playing domestic cricket and part of the PSL, so he is as much eligible as anyone else" : PCB Spokesman

 

[Abdullah719]

The desperation of some TV channel experts to get Salman Butt selected at any cost is truly fascinating.

I don't think there has ever been such hoopla from the media for any other 35-year-old in the past.

 

[shah_1]

Salman Butt's international career is over

 

[Shazzam]

I’d take Salman Bhutt over Shan

 

[RyanRyan10]

I’d take Salman Bhutt over Shan

Shan Masood is a much improved player now

Averaged closed to 40 in both Aus & SA where barring him & Babar, all other batsmen failed and then against SL,he played a game changing knock.

Salman Butt can be selected as a back up opener and should replace Imam ul Haq

 

[Abdullah719]

I’d take Salman Bhutt over Shan

Salman Butt's Test average is indeed one run higher than Shan Masood's but he's five years older... before any further discussion.

 

[Monsee]

The one issue everyone can praise the PCB for.

Excatly, this one decision for me is enough to almost wipe away all their past sins, almost!

 

[Monsee]

Quote Originally Posted by Shazzam View Post
I’d take Salman Bhutt over Shan

Salman Butt's Test average is indeed one run higher than Shan Masood's but he's five years older... before any further discussion.

And if I can find that damning analysis many others here (including I) have done on his career on and off...it will make Shan Masood look like a very good batsman!

If we add his World's worst running (not even kidding, numbers prove that) and his pathetic (I wish I could find a worse word to describe that) fielding...he would be kept out of teams for Timbaktu and ilk:

Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akqSF9iJwzI

 

[gazza619]

The one issue everyone can praise the PCB for.

Not for long. I feel a comeback is on the cards.

 

[Waleed93]

I’d take Salman Bhutt over Shan

As much as I dislike him, but I would take a half fit Shan over that cheat.

 

[Bewal Express]

I’d take Salman Bhutt over Shan

We need this fixer back desperately, after all he only humiliated PK as Captain.

 

[Saj]

"Any player who is part of the domestic setup can be considered for international selection, of course Salman is playing domestic cricket and part of the PSL, so he is as much eligible as anyone else" : PCB Spokesman

PCB's quick response after Ijaz Ahmed jr's comments regarding Salman Butt. It seems that Ijaz let slip something he shouldn't have.

 

[Sir-fraz]

haider ali should get the call up to the national team over butt

 

[CricketingMinds]

PCB's quick response after Ijaz Ahmed jr's comments regarding Salman Butt. It seems that Ijaz let slip something he shouldn't have.

Wondering why would someone ask the coach of u19 about players that aren't under him. Poor levels of journalism?

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

The reason Mohammad Asif didn't get selected in 2016 and in 2017 despite superior domestic performances + experience.

They made a big blunder by not accepting their crime within a year ala Amir. Now it's all over. The PCB wants to show the world that they do not tolerate any corruption.

 

[The Viper]

Wondering why would someone ask the coach of u19 about players that aren't under him. Poor levels of journalism?

This is not that Ijaz Ahmed, it is a different one.

He is coach of Central Punjab and apart of the selection committee.

 

[tahir_dj]

The only 1 who was worth selecting was mohammad asif
But now even he is tottaly finished

 

[Junaids]

What sort of fool would pick a 35 year old opener now, when:

1. He is most suited to batting in Australia and South Africa, and was ignored for 3 consecutive tours there?

2. He was ignored when he scored back-to-back centuries in the QEA Final three years ago - and his replacement scored very few runs.

3. Sami Aslam has scored a mountain of runs this year, and is 10 years younger.

I agree with [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] that it has been obvious for 4 years and 3 months since the Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif bans were lifted by the ICC that there has been a secret conspiracy within the PCB to unofficially extend their bans without any due process or right of appeal or even defence counsel.

But they are too old now, and Misbah has already systematically stripped out all but 2 of the players in their twenties from the Test team and replaced them with old men

 

[DeadBall]

I’d take Salman Bhutt over Shan

Well Shazaam was a typical confused kid suddenly turned into an adult with super powers so I won't argue with your logic.

 

[RickyG]

PCB's quick response after Ijaz Ahmed jr's comments regarding Salman Butt. It seems that Ijaz let slip something he shouldn't have.

Salman Butt is clearly playing politics using Ijaz Ahmed here. As he has done throughout his career.

Butt is a persona non grata for the PCB as far as the national team is concerned and rightly so. So Butt is using his cronies to put pressure on the PCB.

 

[mgtow]

At the same time it is discrimination for not helping Danish Kaneria of the same crime that curtains the careers of Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif.

 

[Caved12]

Perfect! Let's keep it this way!

 

[Saj]

Salman Butt is clearly playing politics using Ijaz Ahmed here. As he has done throughout his career.

Butt is a persona non grata for the PCB as far as the national team is concerned and rightly so. So Butt is using his cronies to put pressure on the PCB.

I doubt very much that Butt held a gun to his head and told him to say this.

Also this was a press conference, he was asked about Salman Butt by a journo.

 

[Saj]

Wondering why would someone ask the coach of u19 about players that aren't under him. Poor levels of journalism?

Different Ijaz Ahmed, this one is part of the national selectors pool.

 

[Bewal Express]

What sort of fool would pick a 35 year old opener now, when:

1. He is most suited to batting in Australia and South Africa, and was ignored for 3 consecutive tours there?

2. He was ignored when he scored back-to-back centuries in the QEA Final three years ago - and his replacement scored very few runs.

3. Sami Aslam has scored a mountain of runs this year, and is 10 years younger.

I agree with [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] that it has been obvious for 4 years and 3 months since the Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif bans were lifted by the ICC that there has been a secret conspiracy within the PCB to unofficially extend their bans without any due process or right of appeal or even defence counsel.

But they are too old now, and Misbah has already systematically stripped out all but 2 of the players in their twenties from the Test team and replaced them with old men

This secret conspiracy is one of the better secret conspiracies. Finally some common sense by the PCB

 

[Saj]

What PCB should have done was to say that Butt and Asif can play domestic cricket but will never be eligible for national selection.

Now PCB are just looking stupid by trying to cover this policy up.

 

[Bewal Express]

What PCB should have done was to say that Butt and Asif can play domestic cricket but will never be eligible for national selection.

Now PCB are just looking stupid by trying to cover this policy up.

It could and would be challenged in court. And the outcome would have virtually forced their selection.

 

[Saj]

It could and would be challenged in court. And the outcome would have virtually forced their selection.

I'm not defending Butt, but PCB's handling has hardly been ethical and in fact they've made themselves look rather foolish.

 

[Bewal Express]

I'm not defending Butt, but PCB's handling has hardly been ethical and in fact they've made themselves look rather foolish.

I think that making retrospective laws would have been shot down. The PCB should have created rules that allow only fixers to play Domestic cricket, but the problem would have been that Amir would have been also bound by the same rules. I personally would have been happy with that but many in PK would not have been happy.

 

[Titan24]

Shan is 30 while Abid is 32, we need younger openers as their cover rather than going towards an opener who is 35 even if we ignore everything else.

 

[Green Patriot]

How can he be a part of the PCBs plans is beyond me.
I sincerely hope he is never selected for the national team.

 

[Saj]

I think that making retrospective laws would have been shot down. The PCB should have created rules that allow only fixers to play Domestic cricket, but the problem would have been that Amir would have been also bound by the same rules. I personally would have been happy with that but many in PK would not have been happy.

This is the issue for some. Why 'behind-the-scenes' different rules for Amir and not the other 2.

And how this has come out does not paint PCB in very good light.

 

[Bewal Express]

This is the issue for some. Why 'behind-the-scenes' different rules for Amir and not the other 2.

And how this has come out does not paint PCB in very good light.

Amir has public sympathy because of his supposed age and the others didn't. In reality they were all guilty as each other with Butt taking the greater responsibility because he was the Captain.

 

[mahmed]

How can Salman Butt be pardoned, he was the Captain. The role of a captain is much bigger than the game, he has to be inspiring, motivating and a brotherly/fatherly figure to guide/counsel his team mates from personal issues if they have any?. Therefore, he has committed the crime and mediated youngster (Amir) to follow him is a bigger crime than what most of the fans think. It was a good gesture that Pakistan allowed him to play domestic games, he deserve bigger punishment than what he had.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I’d take Salman Bhutt over Shan

Looks like your cricket-viewing has remained limited to the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Salman Butt needs to be kept out of the team at all costs. People tend to underestimate what guys like him bring most to the team which is a truly toxic presence. I really hope PCB keep this policy intact for the foreseeable future.

 

[Slog]

As much as I dislike him, but I would take a half fit Shan over that cheat.

A half fit Shan and Butt would have a similar fitness level anyway...

 

[gazza619]

What PCB should have done was to say that Butt and Asif can play domestic cricket but will never be eligible for national selection.

Now PCB are just looking stupid by trying to cover this policy up.

I think PCB should have banned them from domestic as well if they were barred from making a comeback. The amount of games Salman Butt has played now in the last few years could have easily been used up to mature a young gun.

 

[Saj]

I think PCB should have banned them from domestic as well if they were barred from making a comeback. The amount of games Salman Butt has played now in the last few years could have easily been used up to mature a young gun.

I don't think it's been handled too well by PCB and this comment by one of its selectors is just the icing on the cake.

 

[shah_1]

Salman Butt needs to be thrown out central Punjab as well

Blocking youngster spot

 

[topspin]

Salman Butt should have been selected ahead of Sami Aslam for the 2016/17 tour of Australia, but at the age of 35, safe to say that ship has now sailed for him.

Abid and Shan may not be the youngest but I feel with their quality we can get another 4-5 years out of this opening combo.

 

[Mercurial]

Has Salman Butt accepted his crime?

 

[SARJ_BD]

Tainted people like Salman Butt should never get approval. He should be grateful that he plays first class and must remain there.

Its too late to talk about Amir, but Sharjeel and Salman should be banned from playing for national team.

 

[RickyG]

I doubt very much that Butt held a gun to his head and told him to say this.

Also this was a press conference, he was asked about Salman Butt by a journo.

No one held a gun to Asif and Amir's head to fix matches either. They still did it for Butt.

The selector not toeing PCB's line is a bit curious. Instead trying to throw his employer under the bus.

 

[Pakistanian]

I'm all for second chances in life but I think Butt is 4 years too late, he'll be 36 this year so bringing him back isn't worth it.

 

[Saj]

No one held a gun to Asif and Amir's head to fix matches either. They still did it for Butt.

The selector not toeing PCB's line is a bit curious. Instead trying to throw his employer under the bus.

What has what the selector said got to do with Asif and Amir.

The point is that there was rightly or wrongly a policy not to select Asif and Butt, which has been exposed now, but the PCB is trying to cover it up.

 

[RickyG]

What has what the selector said got to do with Asif and Amir.

The point is that there was rightly or wrongly a policy not to select Asif and Butt, which has been exposed now, but the PCB is trying to cover it up.

Butt is an influential personality in Pakistan cricket that’s why people do things for him. Asif, Amir or Ijaz Ahmed jr or even the media.

The policy is correct. Unfortunately PCB couldn’t really come out with it because of media and political backlash.

 

[Saj]

Butt is an influential personality in Pakistan cricket that’s why people do things for him. Asif, Amir or Ijaz Ahmed jr or even the media.

The policy is correct. Unfortunately PCB couldn’t really come out with it because of media and political backlash.

Don't think an experienced former player, national selector and the head coach of a domestic team would risk his livelihood for Salman Butt.

Whether the policy is correct or not, what Ijaz jr said and how it came out is very embarrassing for PCB.

 

[Boi]

Good stuff. Should be banned from domestic cricket aswell. Vile person.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Great, hope he never does.

Even excluding his past, his performance doesn't even justify it. He was a mediocre cricketer in his prime and is 35 year old now. Not to mention, he bats like he is in the 1980's.

 

[MenInG]

Misbah speaking to the press today:

"There is no such thing (about any players being barred from selection), we discuss about the likes of Salman Butt as well and whenever there is any consensus, we will surely consider him"

 

[MenInG]

Misbah speaking regarding omission of Salman Butt for Test squad vs Bangladesh

"In Salman Butt's position, we have openers who are both performing. You can only bring in players when there is a spot available. (Regarding Kamran Akmal) Rizwan has been making runs, he made runs in QEA and also in Australia so that position is not available right now. When you have players performing already in some areas then you have to wait before picking others.

 

[MenInG]

So reports saying Salman Butt not interested in fitness tests - why should he be selected?

 

[NauV]

I fail to understand why they can't just pull the trigger . . I am the last person who would want Salman Butt anywhere near the team . . but this is unfair on him! Just freaking tell him your career is over . . its good that you're continuing to play domestic cricket and PSL . . keep at it! Pull the plug, damn it!

Same nonsense every single time!

 

[shah_1]

He is taking a youngster spot, just dump him from domestic cricket

 

[hitthestump]

I fail to understand why they can't just pull the trigger . . I am the last person who would want Salman Butt anywhere near the team . . but this is unfair on him! Just freaking tell him your career is over . . its good that you're continuing to play domestic cricket and PSL . . keep at it! Pull the plug, damn it!

Same nonsense every single time!

I'm perfectly fine with Salman being treated unjustly by the PCB. It's an appropriate deterrent to our future generations and it's not like i have any sympathy given the damage he did to us.