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few days after India redrew the political map of Jammu and Kashmir after scrapping Article 370, the Nepal government strongly objected to the inclusion of 'Kalapani' under the Indian Territory.

In the new political maps released by India on Saturday, Pakistan-occupied Kashmir is part of the newly created Union Territory of Jammu and Kashmir while Gilgit-Baltistan is in the Union Territory of Ladakh.

However, the Nepal government made it clear that Kalapani is an integral part of the country and that talks are still on between New Delhi and Kathmandu over this "unresolved" area.

The country's foreign ministry said, "The Nepal government firmly believes that the Kalapani is a part of Nepal."
The press statement stated that foreign secretaries of both countries have been assigned the responsibility to resolve the remaining border-related issues between India and Nepal.

"The remaining issues related to the border should be resolved in bilateral consensus and any unilateral actions will be unacceptable to the Nepal government," said the press statement.

India on Saturday had released fresh maps of the newly created Union Territories (UTs) of Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh and the map of India depicting these UTs.

The inclusion of Kalapani into the Pithoragarh district of Uttarakhand has been objected by Nepal as it considers the unresolved territory a part of the Darchula district in Nepal.

Ministry of External Affairs is yet to respond to the developments coming from Kathmandu.

While the two countries have made a lot of headway in ties, sensitive issues such as border need to be handled carefully and New Delhi has to be mindful of Nepal's concerns.

"The Nepal government is committed to protecting the country's external borders and it is determined on its principled position that such border disputes with the neighboring countries should be resolved through diplomatic channels after assessing the historical documents, facts, and evidence," added the press statement issued by Nepal's foreign ministry.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...mu-and-kashmir-article-370-1616458-2019-11-07
 
NEW DELHI: India's new political map does not change or revise its borders with Nepal, the foreign ministry said on Thursday, a day after the Nepalese government issued a strong statement protesting the inclusion of a border area in the Indian Territory.

"Our map accurately depicts the sovereign territory of India. The new map has in no manner revised our boundary with Nepal. The boundary delineation exercise with Nepal is ongoing under the existing mechanism," the Ministry of External Affairs said in a statement.

The Indian map places the Kalapani area under the Pithoragarh district in Uttarakhand whereas Kathmandu considers the unresolved area to be part of Nepal's Darchula district.

"We reiterate our commitment to find a solution through dialogue in the spirit of our close and friendly bilateral relations," the foreign ministry said. It also cautioned "against vested interests trying to create differences between our two countries".

The row over the inclusion of the Kalapani region comes just days after the Home Ministry released a new political map of India detailing the boundaries of the newly former Union Territories of Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh.

The new Union Territories came into existence last week, on the 144th birth anniversary of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel.

The Nepalese foreign ministry, in a press statement on Wednesday, said: "All the outstanding issues relating to the border between the two countries need to be resolved through mutual understanding and any unilateral move is unacceptable to the Nepal government".

India-Nepal border talks have been assigned to the Foreign Secretaries of both the countries, "to resolve the remaining border related issues between Nepal and India in consultation with concerned technicians," the Nepalese government was quoted as saying by news agency PTI.
 
Nepal protests to India over border road, claiming intrusion

NEW DELHI: Nepal has protested to India over a border road, which it claims traverses its territory, a charge New Delhi has denied, The Wire news portal said on Saturday. It said the protest also flowed from a new map of the region India drew after the bifurcation of occupied Jammu and Kashmir into two union territories in December last year.

“Rumblings in Nepal about the boundary with India have now resulted in a full-scale eruption since India inaugurated a new road in Uttarakhand which leads to territory that is claimed by Kathmandu, near the border with China,” The Wire said.

On Friday, Defence Minister Rajnath Singh inaugurated by videoconference the road between Dharchula and Lipu Lekh, which will reduce the length of the Hindu pilgrimage of Kailash Mansarovar Yatra inside China by several days.

Nepalese opposition leaders immediately raised the pitch, asking for the government to clear its public stance. A day later, Nepal’s foreign ministry expressed “regret” at India’s “unilateral act” and called upon India to refrain from carrying out any activity on Nepalese territory, portal said.

In a lengthy statement, Nepal’s foreign ministry reminded that Nepal claims all territories east of Mahakali river, “including Limpiyadhura, Kalapani and Lipu Lekh” as per the 1816 Sugauli Treaty”.

“This was reiterated by the Government of Nepal several times in the past and most recently through a diplomatic note addressed to the Government of India dated 20 November 2019 in response to the new political map issued by the latter,” the statement said.

“The context of the last diplomatic note is that months ago, India had issued a new political map to show the bifurcation of Jammu and Kashmir into two new Union Territories. In it, it depicted Kalapani as part of Indian territory, which led to a strong objection from Nepal,” The Wire said.

It further pointed out that when India and China had agreed to include Lipu Lekh pass as a bilateral trade route in a May 2015 joint statement, Nepal had issued separate diplomatic protest notes to the two Asian giants for not obtaining Kathmandu’s consent.

On the latest move, Nepal stated: “This unilateral act runs against the understanding reached between the two countries including at the level of prime ministers that a solution to boundary issues would be sought through negotiation.”

Stating that Nepal sought a diplomatic solution in the spirit of friendly relations, its foreign ministry asserted: “In light of this development, the Government of Nepal calls upon the Government of India to refrain from carrying out any activity inside the territory of Nepal.”

The Kathmandu Post had reported that Nepalese Foreign Secretary Shankar Das Bairagi spoke to Indian Ambassador Vinay Kwatra on Friday.

The statement issued in Kathmandu also reiterated that Nepal had twice proposed dates for holding meeting between the foreign secretaries of the two sides after the Kalapani controversy gathered momentum last year.

Nepal’s Foreign Minister Pradeep Gyawali had told visiting Indian journalists in February that if India could solve longstanding and complex boundary disputes with Bangladesh, then it should be able to do so with Nepal. He had also highlighted that India had still not given a concrete response for a meeting of the two foreign secretaries.

On Friday evening, India’s Ministry of External Affairs responded that the road section “lies entirely within the territory of India”. “Under the present project, the same road has been made pliable for the ease and convenience of pilgrims, locals and traders,” The Wire quoted MEA spokesperson Anurag Srivastava as saying.

He added that both countries had an established mechanism on boundary matters and that the delineation of the boundary was still an “ongoing process”. “India is committed to resolving outstanding boundary issues through diplomatic dialogue and in the spirit of our close and friendly bilateral relations with Nepal,” said Srivastava.

On the demand for a meeting of foreign secretaries, he said that the meeting would be held “once the dates are finalised between the two sides after the two societies and governments have successfully dealt with the challenge of Covid-19 emergency”.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1555909/nepal-protests-to-india-over-border-road-claiming-intrusion
 
Nepal summons Indian envoy to protest opening of road to Lipulekh

The Nepal government summoned the Indian envoy on Monday to protest against the construction of a road in Lipulekh area that is claimed by Kathmandu, signalling an intensification of the diplomatic row on the matter.

India has on Saturday rejected Nepal’s initial protest against the construction of a road to Lipulekh on the border with China, saying the region is “completely within the territory of India” and both sides could resolve such boundary issues through diplomatic dialogue.

People familiar with developments said India’s envoy Vinay Mohan Kwatra was summoned to the foreign ministry in Kathmandu, where foreign minister Pradeep Gyawali handed over a diplomatic note of protest.

The foreign ministry also tweeted: “Foreign Minister Hon. @PradeepgyawaliK conveyed Government of Nepal’s position on boundary issues to Ambassador of India to Nepal H.E. Mr. Vinay Mohan Kwatra at a meeting held at MoFA today and handed over a diplomatic note in this regard.”

No further details were immediately available. There was no immediate response to the development from Indian officials.

The border row erupted months after Nepal was irked by the depiction of Kalapani as part of Uttarakhand in new Indian maps showing the union territory of Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh. Nepal had sought talks to address the Kalapani issue but New Delhi rejected Kathmandu’s protest, saying the new maps accurately depict Indian territory.

Earlier on Monday, Gyawali said Nepal could not wait for the end of the Covid-19 crisis for holding boundary talks with India. Gyawali, who was summoned by the Parliament’s international relations committee, also said Nepal will hold talks with China after sorting out the issue with India, The Kathmandu Post reported.

The parliamentary panel had summoned Gyawali to discuss the opening of the road to Lipulekh by the Indian government last week.

“Nepal, India and China are yet to ascertain the tri-junction in Lipulekh. So after talks with India, we will hold talks with China as well,” Gyawal told the committee.

“We are ready for talks at any level with India – at the prime minister’s level or foreign secretary-level,” he added.

On Saturday, Nepal had expressed regret at the inauguration of the route from Dharchula in Uttarakhand to Lipulekh, with the foreign ministry contending the road “passes through Nepali territory”.

Defence minister Rajnath Singh inaugurated the 80-km road on Friday to curtail the time taken for the pilgrimage to Kailash-Mansarovar. The road ends at Lipulekh Pass, and will help pilgrims avoid dangerous high-altitude routes through Sikkim and Nepal.

“The recently inaugurated road section in Pithoragarh district in the state of Uttarakhand lies completely within the territory of India. The road follows the pre-existing route used by the pilgrims of the Kailash Mansarovar Yatra,” external affairs ministry spokesperson Anurag Srivastava had said.

India and Nepal have an established mechanism for boundary issues, and the delineation of the border with Nepal is ongoing, Srivastava said. India is also committed to resolving outstanding boundary issues through diplomatic dialogue, he said.

Nepal’s foreign ministry had sought talks between the foreign secretaries and Srivastava had said the two side are in the process of scheduling these talks, which would be held after they have dealt with the Covid-19 crisis.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...to-lipulekh/story-OXCVKTo0Mgewms66pOVU2J.html
 
Why Nepal is angry over India's new road in disputed border area
Nepal claims road to Kailash-Mansarovar passes through Lipulekh, a territory claimed by both South Asian neighbours.

Nepal has protested against India's inauguration of a Himalayan link road built in a disputed territory which falls at a strategic three-way junction with Tibet and China.

India's Minister of Defence Rajnath Singh on Friday inaugurated the 80-kilometre (50-mile) Lipulekh road, which will serve as the shortest route between capital New Delhi and Kailash-Mansarovar, a revered Hindu pilgrimage site in the Tibetan plateau.

The link road via Lipulekh Himalayan Pass is also considered one of the shortest and most feasible trade routes between India and China.

Nepal views the alleged incursions as a stark example of bullying by its much larger neighbour.

Nepal's foreign ministry condemned India's "unilateral act" that "runs against the understanding reached between the two countries ... that a solution to boundary issues would be sought through negotiations."

"The Government of Nepal has learnt with regret about the 'inauguration' yesterday by India of 'Link Road' connecting to Lipulekh (Nepal), which passes through Nepali territory," Nepal's Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement on Saturday.

It asked New Delhi "to refrain from carrying out any activity" on the road that has triggered a fresh dispute over the strategically important territory.

India on Saturday quickly rejected Nepal's claims that Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Hindu nationalist government was ignoring the long-standing dispute with its neighbour.

"India is committed to resolving outstanding boundary issues through diplomatic dialogue and in the spirit of our close and friendly bilateral relations with Nepal," Indian foreign affairs spokesman Anurag Srivastava said in a statement.

India and Nepal share a 1,800km (1,118-mile) open border.

The boundary dispute with Nepal also came as Indian and Chinese troops on border patrols skirmished briefly in the northeastern state of Sikkim neighbouring China, India's defence ministry said on Sunday, blaming "aggressive behaviour on both sides".

Lack of maps published by Nepal

The Lipulekh Pass is claimed by Nepal based on an 1816 treaty it entered with the British colonial rulers to define its western border with India.

Kathmandu also claims the highly strategic areas of Limpiyadhura and Kalapani, although Indian troops have been deployed there since New Delhi fought a war with China in 1962.

Lokraj Baral, former Nepali diplomat, explained that according to the Treaty of Sugauli, Kali river was agreed as the demarcation line for the boundary between India and Nepal.

But there are two Kali rivers, which created the scope for different interpretations by the two neighbours.

The disputed landfalls between the two Kali rivers, Baral told Al Jazeera.

Part of the boundary issue, the former Nepali diplomat said, is due to a lack of maps published by Nepal.

"Nepal did not have the capacity to produce maps, so it depended on maps published by the British India. The first boundary claim by Nepal was made in 1962," he said, adding that Nepal needs to publish new maps.

On Monday, Nepal's foreign ministry summoned the Indian ambassador to Kathmandu, Vinay Mohan Kwatra.

"Foreign Minister Pradeep Gyawali conveyed the government of Nepal's position on boundary issues to Ambassador of India to Nepal Vinay Mohan Kwatra at a meeting held at the Foreign Ministry today and handed over a diplomatic note in this regard," a note issued by the ministry said.

Last year, New Delhi published a new map that showed Kalapani within its borders, a move protested by Kathmandu.

The Himalayan region, which borders the Indian state of Uttarakhand, is also included in Nepal's official map.

In 2015, Kathmandu had also objected to an agreement between India and China to include the Lipulekh Pass as a bilateral trade route without Nepal's consent.

The Kathmandu Post newspaper reported that the Nepalese government had been seeking dates for talks to resolve boundary issues since November, when India included Kalapani in its new map, but New Delhi has not yet responded to the request.

'Trust deficit'

On its part, New Delhi has said it was open to talks once the coronavirus lockdown is eased. But Kathmandu wants the talks to be held as soon as possible.

"We are ready for talks at any level with India - at the prime minister level or the foreign secretary level," Gyawali was quoted as saying by the Post.

"Boundary issue is not new, it's a difficult issue and it should be settled diplomatically through high-level talks," Baral, the former Nepali diplomat, said.

"An expert group should be formed which will visit the disputed area and agree on a demarcation line between the two neighbours."

But Baral added that there was a "trust deficit" between the governments of the two countries.

On Saturday, police arrested dozens for demonstrating close to India's embassy in Kathmandu, bringing back the memory of anti-India protests in the wake of the 2015 border blockade imposed by India.

The hashtag #backoffindia was trending on Twitter in Nepal during the weekend.

The same hashtag had gained widespread traction in 2015, when landlocked Nepal accused India of imposing a border blockade as the Himalayan nation recovered from two devastating earthquakes.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...00511133007074.html?__twitter_impression=true
 
New Delhi/Kathmandu: After a "new map" claiming parts of Indian territory, Nepal Prime Minister KP Oli has delivered a new shocker in his offensive against India. Virus from India "looks more lethal" than Chinese and Italian, Mr Oli said in a speech in parliament, blaming India for the spread of coronavirus cases in his country.

"Those who are coming from India through illegal channels are spreading the virus in the country and some local representatives and party leaders are responsible for bringing in people from India without proper testing," Mr Oli said in his speech in Tuesday, his first in parliament since a major health scare.

"It has become very difficult to contain COVID-19 due to the flow of people from outside. Indian virus looks more lethal than Chinese and Italian now. More are getting infected," said the Nepal PM, in comments that have baffled New Delhi and outraged officials in India.

This has escalated the rift between India and Nepal over a new road inaugurated by India.

In the same speech, his first in parliament since a health scare, Mr Oli also said Nepal would "bring back at any cost" the Kalapani-Limpiyadhura-Lipulekh area, which is part of Indian territory.

Recently, the Nepal cabinet had endorsed a new political map incorporating Limpiyadhura, Lipulekh, and Kalapani, which are part of Indian territory.

India and Nepal share a 1,800 km (1,118-mile) open border. The Lipulekh Pass is claimed by Nepal based on the 1816 Treaty of Sugauli it entered with the British colonial rulers to define its western border with India.

Kathmandu also claims the highly strategic areas of Limpiyadhura and Kalapani, although Indian troops have been deployed there since New Delhi fought a war with China in 1962.

After a new road was inaugurated on May 8 by Defence Minister Rajnath Singh connecting the Lipulekh pass in Uttarakhand with Kailash Mansarovar route in China, Nepal has protested against it and is also considering putting up a security post in the area.

India's Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) had said the road going through Uttarakhand''s Pithoragarh district "lies completely within the territory of India".

It had said that the road follows the pre-existing route used by the pilgrims of the Kailash Mansarovar Yatra. "Under the present project, the same road has been made pliable for the ease and convenience of pilgrims, locals, and traders," the foreign ministry said.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/cor...chinese-italian-2232041?pfrom=home-topstories
 
Lol, even such a small country like Nepal could threaten us with such impunity. Such is the result of 56" endless foreign trips.

Had he left our foreign policy to our foreign minister, things might have been way different than what they are.
 
Speaking of foreign trips, he must be feeling very bored in absence of no foreign trips for last 2 months.
 
Lol, even such a small country like Nepal could threaten us with such impunity. Such is the result of 56" endless foreign trips.

Had he left our foreign policy to our foreign minister, things might have been way different than what they are.

India has issues with all of their neighbours. Why come? Pakistan, China, BD and Nepal. Surely there must be something wrong with the Indian administration?

Just watched a show on Indian TV:
And the funny thing is that indian media are trying to dictate what friends Nepal can have. They are asking Nepal to stay away from China. And when a nepalese politician said they will decide themselves who are their friends. He said both China and India are important to Nepal, but then the indian journalist fired it back by saying you can’t have both ways, you have to select one only; India.

I mean seriously, why are you trying to behave like a super power, when you clearly are not that?
 
It seems like India has issues with all of its neighbours. Something for Indians to dwell upon, Modi is racing them to destruction.
 
India has issues with all of their neighbours. Why come? Pakistan, China, BD and Nepal. Surely there must be something wrong with the Indian administration?

Just watched a show on Indian TV:
And the funny thing is that indian media are trying to dictate what friends Nepal can have. They are asking Nepal to stay away from China. And when a nepalese politician said they will decide themselves who are their friends. He said both China and India are important to Nepal, but then the indian journalist fired it back by saying you can’t have both ways, you have to select one only; India.

I mean seriously, why are you trying to behave like a super power, when you clearly are not that?
This is true. We never had any issues with Nepal, but then this regime is different, even from the earlier BJP regime. Just by hugging world leaders and clicking selfies with them isn't how you frame your foreign policy.

They are hell bent on destroying in whatever gains we had in our foreign policy prior to '14. This usually happens when one man tries to show that he knows everything.

As for Nepal, they are a sovereign country and are free to choose who they want to be friends with.

If the supreme leader has any shame he should stop henceforth all his senseless meddling in the fields he has no idea about.
 
India has issues with all of their neighbours. Why come? Pakistan, China, BD and Nepal. Surely there must be something wrong with the Indian administration?

Just watched a show on Indian TV:
And the funny thing is that indian media are trying to dictate what friends Nepal can have. They are asking Nepal to stay away from China. And when a nepalese politician said they will decide themselves who are their friends. He said both China and India are important to Nepal, but then the indian journalist fired it back by saying you can’t have both ways, you have to select one only; India.

I mean seriously, why are you trying to behave like a super power, when you clearly are not that?

[MENTION=142765]King-Misbah[/MENTION]

Inspite of that there is free travel between India and Nepal, it’s a different situation than you think, many Nepalis live in India and vice versa without terrorism.

We have no issues with Myanmar as such which requires LOC skirmishes and neither Bhutan, even with BD its nothing on armed level.

And With China there is no weapons and nothing armed since 1960s now what do you think about Pakistan? Are you going to blame all your neighbors?
 
Speaking of foreign trips, he must be feeling very bored in absence of no foreign trips for last 2 months.

Modi keeps adding to his legacy.

Nepali issue was happening with Congress time as well, wrt issue specifically this, Modi actually started well he went to Nepal and even ack Buddha’s birth place to be Nepal.. but our involvement in their Madhesi issue is what caused burn out , irrespective Nepalis dont hate Indians as such but they hate our authority and Babus, which is fair , esp coz so many in the mainland have been racist to them.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For 2nd time, Nepal PM says <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Covid?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Covid</a> cases on Nepal increasing due to unchecked flow from India <a href="https://t.co/nSn2fgAcuQ">https://t.co/nSn2fgAcuQ</a></p>— Sidhant Sibal (@sidhant) <a href="https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1264890380404830209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Nepal?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Nepal</a> <a href="https://t.co/K04wOlyc7N">pic.twitter.com/K04wOlyc7N</a></p>— NDTV (@ndtv) <a href="https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1271777642149109761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have noted that the House of Representatives of Nepal has passed a constitution amendment bill for changing the map of Nepal to include parts of Indian territory. We have already made our position clear on this matter: Ministry of External Affairs <a href="https://t.co/jKRXheOCct">pic.twitter.com/jKRXheOCct</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1271803061829111809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Nepali issue was happening with Congress time as well, wrt issue specifically this, Modi actually started well he went to Nepal and even ack Buddha’s birth place to be Nepal.. but our involvement in their Madhesi issue is what caused burn out , irrespective Nepalis dont hate Indians as such but they hate our authority and Babus, which is fair , esp coz so many in the mainland have been racist to them.

This . Issues have always existed with Nepal. They don't give rights to madhesis and India supports the rights of madhesis. India tries to limit Maoist influence in Nepal and there's also the issue of us supporting Bhutan who the Nepalis hate.
 
This . Issues have always existed with Nepal. They don't give rights to madhesis and India supports the rights of madhesis. India tries to limit Maoist influence in Nepal and there's also the issue of us supporting Bhutan who the Nepalis hate.
Both of you should read this piece. You'll know what changes have come up in our Nepal policy in last 6 years.

https://theprint.in/opinion/global-...and-nepal-chinese-are-filling-it-fast/433737/

The biggest irony is that New Delhi has completely changed its Nepal policy, not once but twice, in the last six years since Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power. When he went to Kathmandu for the first time in 2014, and began his address to the Nepali parliament with a few words in Nepali, Modi brought the house down. Within a year, that bonhomie was to turn sour when New Delhi supported the Madhesi political parties in the Terai region to push for a far more inclusive agenda that had once held such promise during the 2006 ‘Jan Andolan’ movement.

But instead of letting Nepal’s fractious politics figure out its own future, India tried to push Kathmandu’s upper caste elite, the “Bahun-Chettris” or the “Brahmin-Kshatriya” class, to share power with other backward classes of the Terai, which shares a border with Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. The new policy was imbued with a high moral fibre, an idealism that had its roots in India’s own affirmative policies for lower castes and tribal folk. This was Delhi’s first big change.
 
This . Issues have always existed with Nepal. They don't give rights to madhesis and India supports the rights of madhesis. India tries to limit Maoist influence in Nepal and there's also the issue of us supporting Bhutan who the Nepalis hate.

Why do they hate Bhutan :))
 
I wasn't expecting Nepal to stand up to India. I thought these two countries had great relation.
 
Are there also pieces of lands in BD which India claim belongs to her? I mean there are border issues with Pak, China and Nepal already so thought there might be with BD also?
 
So Pakistan hates us, China hates us, Bangla doesn't like us, SL plays game with us but sides with China and Russia and now the Nepalese lol.
 
Are there also pieces of lands in BD which India claim belongs to her? I mean there are border issues with Pak, China and Nepal already so thought there might be with BD also?

Thing is India inherited the maps and boundaries from British India. Now Brits took the lands but the other side never accepted it. Thats the issue with lipulekh area.
 
On Saturday, the lower house of the Nepali Parliament passed the constitutional amendment bill updating the so-called “political map of Nepal”. The “updated map” includes territories that are parts of the Indian states of Uttarakhand and Bihar. The bill will now go through Nepal’s upper house before receiving presidential assent. According to experts, that is a mere formality.

In Nepal, a question that continues to be raised among the intelligentsia, public, politicians is why India has been silent on diplomatic dialogue.

But first, lets focus on the ongoing political context in Nepal.

A screen shot of public debate within Nepal would reveal a widespread belief that the constitutional amendment was being used by Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli to hold on to his position within the Nepal Communist Party, which was highly shaky in early May when pressure on him to vacate the Prime Minister’s post had become unbearable.

There were saner voices in Kathmandu that advised him not to bring the constitutional amendment. On the contrary, PM Oli was told, that the constitution amendment bill would close the channels of diplomatic communication with India.

On the diplomatic dialogue to discuss the outstanding boundary issue, Nepal seems to have adopted a twin approach. A public call for dialogue combined with an active private effort to scuttle it.

In public pronouncements, including in response to questions of lawmakers in Parliament on the status of dialogue with India, Foreign Minister Pradeep Kumar Gyawali had expressed surprise that India was sitting down for talks with China but was ignoring Nepal’s offer for talks.

Why indeed has India not offered to sit down for talks? Has it actually snubbed Nepal’s request, as Pradeep Kumar Gyawali seems to claim.

A top foreign ministry source in Kathmandu, however, told Hindustan Times that this wasn’t accurate.

The source said India had made a clear-cut offer of a foreign secretary-level phone call; to be followed by a video conference between the two foreign secretaries and then, a visit of Nepal’s foreign secretary to India to discuss the boundary issue.

External affairs ministry sources in New Delhi confirmed that this offer was available with foreign minister Gyawali and Prime Minister Oli even before the constitution amendment bill was tabled.

This offer was made a full one week before foreign minister Gyawali stated that India has been snubbing Nepal’s requests for talks on the border issue.

Only foreign minister Gyawali can answer if an offer of a phone call, a video conference and exchange of visits a snub as he described it.

Nepal’s foreign ministry sources confirmed that Prime Minister Oli seemed disinterested in India’s offer. For reasons best known to him, he was neither ready to halt nor take a step back on the constitutional amendment despite knowing that the constitutional amendment is viewed by India as an irrevocable step which predetermines the outcome of any future negotiations.

Indeed, according to some interlocutors, in his private meetings, Prime Minister Oli has reportedly conveyed that he would proceed ahead with the amendment irrespective of the impact it might have on people-to-people relations between India and Nepal.

What we seem to have here is a carefully crafted pattern of deceit and deception where the Indian offer is not shared with Parliamentarians; and public and lawmakers are misled - all so that PM Oli can damage the special relationship that the people of the two countries continue to nurture.

Given that PM Oli has ignored that offer of diplomatic dialogue and gone ahead with amending the constitution, it is now up to him to create, if he so wishes, a conducive atmosphere in case he is interested in a bilateral dialogue on the boundary issue.

A leader of PM Oli’s experience and wisdom would know well that the time for verbal fudging is over; he now needs to walk the talk.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...or-dialogue/story-REZvZfQDb2tySTGjEMh3gL.html
 
typical Indians stealing landscape, give it back - like you lot say historically ours- now this is theirs-

give it back
 
Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Sunday advised the Indian government to focus on its domestic issues instead of "behaving like an expansionist nation".

In a two-part tweet, the foreign minister said: "It would serve PM Modi’s government and ‘neighbourhood first’ policy well to realise India’s neighbours pose far less of a problem than their own domestic inadequacies, failures and fascism."

Qureshi also criticised India for "igniting border disputes with every neighbour" and said that the incumbent Bharatiya Janata Party government should be "focused on serving the poor, downtrodden and minorities of India better".

Qureshi's tweets come days after Prime Minister Imran Khan offered to "help and share [the government's] successful cash transfer programme, lauded internationally for its reach and transparency, with India". The PTI government has launched the Ehsaas Emergency Cash Programme under which about 12 million lower-income families each received Rs12,000 to cover basic needs for three months.

The prime minister's "offer" came after a study by University of Pennsylvania, the University of Chicago and the Mumbai-based Centre for Monitoring the Indian Economy (CMIE) concluded that about 84 per cent of Indian households were suffering from a decline in income due to the pandemic.

In addition to the economic setback, the virus has also fuelled hate against Muslims in India as well as insecurities among the poor people who have lost work due to the government's measures to curb the spread.

Indian forces often resort to aggression at the Line of Control and target soldiers as well as civilians in "unprovoked" attacks, which results in damage to both life and property.

Apart from its disputes with Pakistan, India is currently engaged in a standoff with China's forces in the remote snow desert of Ladakh where hundreds of soldiers have been ranged against each other since April in the most serious border flare-ups for years after Chinese patrols advanced into what India deems its side of the de facto border.

Both sides are holding talks and, according to an Indian official, after weeks of tension — including an incident in which patrolling soldiers from the two sides came to blows on the banks of Pangong Lake, resulting in injuries — friction has eased somewhat.

Another conflict India is involved in is with Nepal, who has protested to India over a border road, which it claims traverses its territory. New Delhi denies the charge.

Protests in Nepal were also fuelled from a new map of the region India drew after the bifurcation of occupied Jammu and Kashmir into two union territories in December last year.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1563461/f...ic-issues-instead-of-igniting-border-disputes
 
Kathmandu: Nepal's National Assembly today unanimously passed the Constitution Amendment Bill to update the country's political and administrative map incorporating three Indian territories.

India has termed as untenable the "artificial enlargement" of territorial claims by Nepal after its lower house of parliament on Saturday unanimously approved the new political map of the country featuring areas which India maintains belong to it.

The National Assembly, or the upper house of the Nepalese parliament, unanimously passed the constitution amendment bill providing for inclusion of the country's new political map in its national emblem.

The bill was passed with all the 57 members present voting in its favour.

Nepal, in its new map, claims India's Lipulekh, Kalapani and Limpiyadhura as its territories.

Source NDTV
 
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Both of you should read this piece. You'll know what changes have come up in our Nepal policy in last 6 years.

https://theprint.in/opinion/global-...and-nepal-chinese-are-filling-it-fast/433737/

The biggest irony is that New Delhi has completely changed its Nepal policy, not once but twice, in the last six years since Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power. When he went to Kathmandu for the first time in 2014, and began his address to the Nepali parliament with a few words in Nepali, Modi brought the house down. Within a year, that bonhomie was to turn sour when New Delhi supported the Madhesi political parties in the Terai region to push for a far more inclusive agenda that had once held such promise during the 2006 ‘Jan Andolan’ movement.

But instead of letting Nepal’s fractious politics figure out its own future, India tried to push Kathmandu’s upper caste elite, the “Bahun-Chettris” or the “Brahmin-Kshatriya” class, to share power with other backward classes of the Terai, which shares a border with Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. The new policy was imbued with a high moral fibre, an idealism that had its roots in India’s own affirmative policies for lower castes and tribal folk. This was Delhi’s first big change.

Yes the brahmin-kshatriya nexus dominates Nepali politics. The Buddhist indo-tibetan groups and ,particularly, madhesis have little say in Nepal politics. Whatever the motivation for GOI in interfering in their internal affairs, it has clearly backfired much like the Tamil issue in Sri Lanka during the 80's.

But issues with Nepal have existed well before Modi though he certainly has made matters worse.
 
Why do they hate Bhutan :))

Bhutan may be the happiest country in the world but it comes at a cost. They are extremely insular and value cultural/ethnic homogeneity . They literally rid the country of all Nepalis . The only non-ethnic Bhutanese who reside permanently in Bhutan are Indian traders and even they don't get citizenship.

The funny thing is that in this triangle, India offers indefinite stay without visa to citizens of only 2 countries in the world - Nepal and Bhutan. So it's a delicate issue for GOI.
 
Some advice from Nepal

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New Delhi: Wading into the ongoing tensions between India and China, Nepal on Saturday urged both its "friendly neighbours" to peacefully resolve their mutual differences. Nepal's statement has come days after 20 Indian Army personnel lost their lives in a violent clash with Chinese troops in Ladakh's Galwan Valley.

In a statement, Nepal's Foreign Ministry referred to the face-off between Indian and Chinese armies and stressed that disputes between the two nations should be resolved peacefully through dialogue.

The statement read, "Nepal maintains that disputes between the countries should be resolved through peaceful means. Nepal has always stood firmly for regional and world peace."

"In the context of recent developments in the Galwan Valley area between out friendly neighbours India and China, Nepal is confident that both the neighbouring countries will resolve, in the spirit of good neighbourliness, their mutual differences through peaceful means in favour of bilateral, regional and world peace and stability," it further read.

Earlier on June 15, the violent face-off broke out as a result of an attempt by the Chinese troops to unilaterally change the status quo during de-escalation in eastern Ladakh. Twenty Indian soldiers lost their lives in the clash. Indian intercepts have revealed that the Chinese side suffered 43 casualties including dead and seriously injured.

Nepal's diplomatic statement on the India-China dispute has come amid the raging debate over Nepal's newly amended citizenship rules for Indians. As per the new rule, any Indian girl marrying a Nepalese citizen will have to wait for seven years to get citizenship of Nepal.

The decision has been taken in the wake of the strained ties between India and Nepal ever since the latter altered its national map and included three disputed areas - Kalapani, Limpiyadhura and Lipulekh.

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/...-wades-into-india-china-border-dispute/609444
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reports:<br>Nepal's FM radio stations close to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndoNepal?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndoNepal</a> border have started relaying weather bulletins of disputed areas incorporated in the new map of Nepal... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lipulekh?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Lipulekh</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kalapani?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kalapani</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/limpiyadhura?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#limpiyadhura</a>.<br><br>Straight out of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndoPak?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndoPak</a> diplomatic playbook &#55357;&#56900;</p>— Geeta Mohan گیتا موہن गीता मोहन (@Geeta_Mohan) <a href="https://twitter.com/Geeta_Mohan/status/1274694183026978822?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Indians better be careful.

Them Gurkhas are bad bad hombres. In a hand to hand combat it will be yet another one sided phainta.

Better keep things on diplomatic levels :yk
 
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Indians better be careful.

Them Gurkhas are bad bad hombres. In a hand to hand combat it will be yet another one sided phainta.

Better keep things on diplomatic levels :yk

Speaking of which, can the Gurkhas who serve in the Humsaaya Mulk fauj be called back to Nepal if push comes to shove? How many are there?
 
Speaking of which, can the Gurkhas who serve in the Humsaaya Mulk fauj be called back to Nepal if push comes to shove? How many are there?

One of the main reasons "ancient India" was so easy to conquer for outsiders was racism/classism within society. Countless generations of forgotten untouchables who were shoved aside by the upper classes accepted the .

The sad part is, even in 2020, nothing seems to be changed.

So I won't be surprised if a great majority of Indian population lacks motivation to defend "motherland", even today.

Indian Army do have some Gurkha regiments but when word "Gurkha" literally means Nepalese it should make one question their allegiance.
 
Nepal has already started blaring out anti India songs on their FM channels in the Indian villages they claim their own. Will clueless and idle sanghis do anything about it or do they only know how to troll on social media?
 
One of the main reasons "ancient India" was so easy to conquer for outsiders was racism/classism within society. Countless generations of forgotten untouchables who were shoved aside by the upper classes accepted the .

The sad part is, even in 2020, nothing seems to be changed.

So I won't be surprised if a great majority of Indian population lacks motivation to defend "motherland", even today.

Indian Army do have some Gurkha regiments but when word "Gurkha" literally means Nepalese it should make one question their allegiance.

What I'm trying to understand is if the Gurkhas serving in those regiments are still Nepalese citizens. If so, could Nepal summon them back? Also are those eponymous regiments exclusively Gurkha, or do non-Gurkhas also get to join them?
 
I see Indian media highlighting the lost land of Rui in Nepal and thanks to our Sikkim and Darjeeling citizens they are sharing it on social media and news articles that Nepalis are seeing it.

Glad that NE prefers South Korean pop culture and not Chinese phew..

Needs more media coverage in Nepal, Himalayan times is not enough :P
 
China occupies Nepal village, land; deafening silence from Oli govt

China has occupied a village of Nepal and allegedly removed the boundary pillars to legitimise its annexation, top government sources revealed. The latest in the line is Rui village in Gorkha district, which is now in total control of China.

China occupies Rui village in Nepal but Oli govt is criminally quiet, instead PM Oli is busy claiming Indian land
In a massive departure from its diplomatic stand of non-interference, the Chinese have completely occupied Rui Village and the residents comprising around 72 houses are fighting for their original identity.

According to a list of 11 places prepared by Nepal’s Survey Department of Agriculture Ministry, China has encroached on 10 places which comprise of nearly 33 hectares of Nepalese land. The report further said that China has been diverting the flow of rivers to increase its territory.

A total of 10 hectares of land has been encroached on in Humla district as Chinese construction works diverted Bagdare Khola river and Karnali river. Six hectares of Nepali land has been encroached on in Rasuwa district as the construction work in Tibet brought diversions in Sinjen, Bhurjuk and Jambu Khola.

China is widely expanding its road network in Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) due to which some rivers have changed their course and are flowing towards Nepal. The rivers are gradually receding the Nepalese territories and if it continues like this, the rivers will cede the maximum portion of Nepal’s land towards TAR, said the report.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/631353/china-occupies-nepal-village-land-deafening-silence-from-oli-govt/


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Although as per my Nepali friends from college, this village is with China since 1962..so not sure..
 
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China occupies Nepal village, land; deafening silence from Oli govt

China has occupied a village of Nepal and allegedly removed the boundary pillars to legitimise its annexation, top government sources revealed. The latest in the line is Rui village in Gorkha district, which is now in total control of China.

China occupies Rui village in Nepal but Oli govt is criminally quiet, instead PM Oli is busy claiming Indian land
In a massive departure from its diplomatic stand of non-interference, the Chinese have completely occupied Rui Village and the residents comprising around 72 houses are fighting for their original identity.

According to a list of 11 places prepared by Nepal’s Survey Department of Agriculture Ministry, China has encroached on 10 places which comprise of nearly 33 hectares of Nepalese land. The report further said that China has been diverting the flow of rivers to increase its territory.

A total of 10 hectares of land has been encroached on in Humla district as Chinese construction works diverted Bagdare Khola river and Karnali river. Six hectares of Nepali land has been encroached on in Rasuwa district as the construction work in Tibet brought diversions in Sinjen, Bhurjuk and Jambu Khola.

China is widely expanding its road network in Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) due to which some rivers have changed their course and are flowing towards Nepal. The rivers are gradually receding the Nepalese territories and if it continues like this, the rivers will cede the maximum portion of Nepal’s land towards TAR, said the report.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/631353/china-occupies-nepal-village-land-deafening-silence-from-oli-govt/


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Although as per my Nepali friends from college, this village is with China since 1962..so not sure..

jaed- you cant deny that part of india -is historically nepals.

feel sorry for those villages , china is completely wrong.

ive heard the current communist nepal government is really useless- in a complete mess
 
jaed- you cant deny that part of india -is historically nepals.

feel sorry for those villages , china is completely wrong.

ive heard the current communist nepal government is really useless- in a complete mess

Expert opinion on Susta is divided. “In international law, the principles of avulsion and accretion are applicable to determining the border when a boundary river changes course,” said Brahma Chellaney, professor of strategic studies at the Centre for Policy Research, New Delhi. “If the change of the river course is rapid – by avulsion – the boundary does not change. But if the river changes course gradually – that is, by accretion – the boundary changes accordingly.”

Since the Gandak’s course changed by accretion, the India-Nepal boundary must reflect the river’s current course. So, the village [Susta] falls in India, he added.

https://scroll.in/article/831576/as-a-river-changed-its-course-a-village-on-the-india-nepal-border-became-disputed-territory

I do agree to some extent though but again my nationalist tinted eyes see which is pro India.

Nepal honestly is a complete mess but has lot of capability and they have no other go than to support China for the hydro projects.

Nepal's situation is so bad that below:

“We introduced Mandarin as a compulsory subject two years ago after the Chinese Embassy agreed to provide teachers free of cost,” said Kuldip Neupane, principal at United School.

https://kathmandupost.com/national/2019/10/15/government-has-agreed-to-promote-mandarin-in-nepali-schools-and-not-everyone-seems-pleased

So I don't blame Nepal to turn to Chinese money, it's happening in South Asia- Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Nepal. Only BD has managed to do better financially and aren't in need of bailouts.
 
https://scroll.in/article/831576/as-a-river-changed-its-course-a-village-on-the-india-nepal-border-became-disputed-territory

I do agree to some extent though but again my nationalist tinted eyes see which is pro India.

Nepal honestly is a complete mess but has lot of capability and they have no other go than to support China for the hydro projects.

Nepal's situation is so bad that below:

“We introduced Mandarin as a compulsory subject two years ago after the Chinese Embassy agreed to provide teachers free of cost,” said Kuldip Neupane, principal at United School.

https://kathmandupost.com/national/2019/10/15/government-has-agreed-to-promote-mandarin-in-nepali-schools-and-not-everyone-seems-pleased

So I don't blame Nepal to turn to Chinese money, it's happening in South Asia- Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Nepal. Only BD has managed to do better financially and aren't in need of bailouts.

so your stance is that pakistan kashmir and gilgit is india's but that small part of valley is not nepal when it is - and yet you question why people dont believe you indians.

i know that part is a strategic point for those 3 points:

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so your stance is that pakistan kashmir and gilgit is india's but that small part of valley is not nepal when it is - and yet you question why people dont believe you indians.

i know that part is a strategic point for those 3 points:

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I have never said Giligit and Pak Kashmir are India's, I'm guessing you are confusing me with someone else, I have advocated for LOC to be INTL border through my posts atleast.

Didn't ask anyone to trust Indians either..
 
[MENTION=66515]finalfantasy7[/MENTION] did you mean Indian sources in media? The only reason I brought that up as well because of duplicity of trust based on situations, I have said multiple times ANI is trash.
 
hahahahahahahha-Ajai Shukla, a leading Indian defence analyst, tweeted that "there is a large Chinese camp in the Galwan Valley, 1.5km into the Indian side of the LAC [Line of Actual Control]".

pasted from the bbc report
 
What I'm trying to understand is if the Gurkhas serving in those regiments are still Nepalese citizens. If so, could Nepal summon them back? Also are those eponymous regiments exclusively Gurkha, or do non-Gurkhas also get to join them?

They will come back and join their own army if situation escalates to that level.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just in: K.P. Sharma Oli said meetings are being organised in India to topple his government | <a href="https://twitter.com/janusmyth?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@janusmyth</a> <a href="https://t.co/2MURTmwdDF">https://t.co/2MURTmwdDF</a></p>— The Hindu (@the_hindu) <a href="https://twitter.com/the_hindu/status/1277199787104841728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
All these developments vis-a-vis Nepal sound very promising. However, we need Bhutan to also make concrete moves into the Sinosphere. Only then can the fabled Chicken's Neck be wrung. As things stand, Bhutan furnishes the Humsaaya Mulk quite a bit of strategic depth at that location.
 
All these developments vis-a-vis Nepal sound very promising. However, we need Bhutan to also make concrete moves into the Sinosphere. Only then can the fabled Chicken's Neck be wrung. As things stand, Bhutan furnishes the Humsaaya Mulk quite a bit of strategic depth at that location.

Is this what is referred to as 'Political cheerleading'?

Keep it up anyhow.
 
Is this what is referred to as 'Political cheerleading'?

Keep it up anyhow.

This is the first I've heard of the term. In any case, it is more strategic daydreaming than cheerleading, but seriously, consider the possibilities if Bhutan too were to part ways with the Humsaaya Mulk. I hope those scheming Chinese are looking into it.
 
Interesting events going on in Nepali Politics , wonder if Oli will become a martyr.
 
Nepal’s cable TV operators on Thursday yanked Indian news channels from their networks over coverage of the Chinese ambassador’s meetings with senior Nepalese leaders even as country’s envoy in New Delhi raised the media reports with the external affairs ministry.

Multi-system operators (MSOs) such as Dishome, Mega Max, DSN and My TV decided to stop beaming Indian news channels in Nepal from Thursday, with the sole exception being state-run Doordarshan News.

People familiar with developments said on condition of anonymity that there was no official ban on Indian news channels by the Nepal government.

In a related development, Nepal’s ambassador Nilambar Acharya raised the issue of Indian media coverage of the Chinese envoy’s recent meetings with senior Nepalese political leaders and certain derogatory references in these reports during a conversation with the external affairs ministry, one of the people cited above said.

Dhruv Sharma, vice-president of Mega Max TV cable network, said Indian news channels were resorting to “exaggerated and uncontrolled propaganda” about Nepal, especially “objectionable” reports that referred to Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli and Chinese envoy Hou Yanqi.

Rajan Bhattarai, a member of the central committee of the ruling Nepal Communist Party and foreign affairs advisor to the prime minister, tweeted: “The news coming from Indian media against our PM and government after publication of new Map is condemnable. We completely reject their fabricated & fake reports. We urge them to respect Nepali government & people’s unified position on our sovereignty & national independence.”

Nepal’s information minister Yuba Raj Khatiwada was asked specifically during a news conference whether the government would ban Indian channels, and he replied it would be better if the media exercised self-restraint and provided accurate news instead of the government resorting to a ban.

However, he said the government will seek political and legal remedies against the Indian media’s reports that jeopardise the nation, nationality, sovereignty and self-respect of Nepali people.

“We also request the media not to disseminate news that infringes on the sovereignty and self-respect of Nepalis. This includes the media of neighbouring countries,” said Khatiwada.

The Chinese envoy in Kathmandu has had a series of meetings with the President and leaders of the Nepal Communist Party, including Pushpa Kamal Dahal “Prachanda”, who are seeking the ouster of Prime Minister Oli, who has been accused of poor governance. The move against Oli has come at a time when his government issued a new map showing the Indian territories of Kalapani, Lipulekh and Limpiyadhura as part of Nepal, thus triggering a border row with India.

The people cited above said the Nepalese political leadership was particularly irked by derogatory references to Oli and the Chinese envoy by an Indian news channel, which suggested the premier could be “honey trapped” by the ambassador.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...ws-channels/story-8WGa3TYqqLwSduBv5iDNGL.html
 
Dhruv Sharma, vice-president of Mega Max TV cable network, said Indian news channels were resorting to “exaggerated and uncontrolled propaganda” about Nepal, especially “objectionable” reports that referred to Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli and Chinese envoy Hou Yanqi.

Well, get used to it Nepal.

Pakistan have suffered first hand the toxicity of Indian media. Even Indian Muslims aren't left alone by the hate spreading monstrosity.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian: Nepali media quotes Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli (file pic) <a href="https://t.co/k3CcN8jjGV">pic.twitter.com/k3CcN8jjGV</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1282696242624000000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
'Ram bhakt' Sanghis' silence is defeaning. Had some muslim commented like this, they'd have lynched/ostracized him by now.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian: Nepali media quotes Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli (file pic) <a href="https://t.co/k3CcN8jjGV">pic.twitter.com/k3CcN8jjGV</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1282696242624000000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If that's true then Ram Mandir should be built in Nepal not India. :inti
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian: Nepali media quotes Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli (file pic) <a href="https://t.co/k3CcN8jjGV">pic.twitter.com/k3CcN8jjGV</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1282696242624000000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just imagine if Oli was a Muslim...more Muslim hate in India would follow. Whom would the bakhts torture for this?
 
Nepali tonsured, forced to shout anti-Oli slogans, ‘Jai Shri Ram’ in Varanasi

Convener of fringe group Vishwa Hindu Sena Arun Pathak booked

A Nepali citizen, was tonsured and forced to shout ‘Jai Shri Ram’ and slogans against Nepal Prime Minister K.P. Oli by a fringe group members, who also wrote ‘Jai Shri Ram’ on his scalp in Varanasi. The convenor of Vishwa Hindu Sena, Arun Pathak, was booked on Friday.



A video of the incident was widely circulated on social media after Mr. Pathak, recorded and shared it on his Facebook profile.

The incident came in the background of Mr. Oli stoking a controversy by stating that the ‘real’ Ayodhya was in Nepal and not in Uttar Pradesh.

In the video, the unidentified man is seen seated cross-legged near a river and has no clothes on the upper part of his body. He is made to shout slogans against Mr. Oli and Nepal, and praise India for providing Nepalis livelihood opportunities.

The man, who speaks in Nepali language, is also prodded to shout ‘Jai Shri Ram’ and ‘Bharat Mati ki jai’. He is made to raise slogans in favour of the Vishwa Hindu Sena.

“The Nepali PM did not provide us livelihood so we came to India to earn. Why are you snatching our rights? So many Nepali went abroad to earn a living. India provided us support”, the man is heard saying in his native language, allegedly under the pressure of the fringe group.

On Facebook, Mr. Pathak justified his actions and even urged his followers to write ‘Jai Shri Ram’ on the scalp of other Nepalis so that Mr. Oli ‘would not dare” speak against Lord Ram.

The Varanasi police said an FIR was registered under IPC Sections 505 (2) and 295 and Section 67 of the IT Act at the Bhelupur police station and necessary action was being taken.

UP DGP has directed the senior most officer in Varanasi to take strict action against those involved in the tonsuring of the Nepali citizen. One accused, Santosh Pandey, who is a member of the outfit (Vishwa Hindu Sena) was arrested while efforts are being made to arrest the others, the DGP office said

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...nepal-slogans-in-varanasi/article32111483.ece
 
The Nepalese should consider summoning the Gorkhas back and raising Gorkha regiments in their own military. All these areas freshly added to the maps won’t defend themselves.
 
Arun Pathak should be effin thrown behind the jail. Have a massive dislike for these shades wearing poster politician.
Also why does it say Hindu sena? Google says its Shiv Sena, also apparently he is producing a movie about himself.
 
Convener of fringe group Vishwa Hindu Sena Arun Pathak booked

A Nepali citizen, was tonsured and forced to shout ‘Jai Shri Ram’ and slogans against Nepal Prime Minister K.P. Oli by a fringe group members, who also wrote ‘Jai Shri Ram’ on his scalp in Varanasi. The convenor of Vishwa Hindu Sena, Arun Pathak, was booked on Friday.



A video of the incident was widely circulated on social media after Mr. Pathak, recorded and shared it on his Facebook profile.

The incident came in the background of Mr. Oli stoking a controversy by stating that the ‘real’ Ayodhya was in Nepal and not in Uttar Pradesh.

In the video, the unidentified man is seen seated cross-legged near a river and has no clothes on the upper part of his body. He is made to shout slogans against Mr. Oli and Nepal, and praise India for providing Nepalis livelihood opportunities.

The man, who speaks in Nepali language, is also prodded to shout ‘Jai Shri Ram’ and ‘Bharat Mati ki jai’. He is made to raise slogans in favour of the Vishwa Hindu Sena.

“The Nepali PM did not provide us livelihood so we came to India to earn. Why are you snatching our rights? So many Nepali went abroad to earn a living. India provided us support”, the man is heard saying in his native language, allegedly under the pressure of the fringe group.

On Facebook, Mr. Pathak justified his actions and even urged his followers to write ‘Jai Shri Ram’ on the scalp of other Nepalis so that Mr. Oli ‘would not dare” speak against Lord Ram.

The Varanasi police said an FIR was registered under IPC Sections 505 (2) and 295 and Section 67 of the IT Act at the Bhelupur police station and necessary action was being taken.

UP DGP has directed the senior most officer in Varanasi to take strict action against those involved in the tonsuring of the Nepali citizen. One accused, Santosh Pandey, who is a member of the outfit (Vishwa Hindu Sena) was arrested while efforts are being made to arrest the others, the DGP office said

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...nepal-slogans-in-varanasi/article32111483.ece

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We have a surfeit of bigots, led by the chief bigot.
 
Just imagine if Oli was a Muslim...more Muslim hate in India would follow. Whom would the bakhts torture for this?

Thats just an illogical whataboutery. Why would a muslim claim Lord Rama as theirs? You do realize right the term 'Nepali' is about nationality and 'muslim' is religious?

Ram is a symbol of hinduism and not something exclusive to India. Hinduism is the state religion of Nepal. So a Nepali claiming Rama as theirs is totally different from people of other faith claiming to be the same.

I get the point that you want to potray India as intolerant towards muslims. But atleast pick the correct thread and logical whataboutery.
 
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Thats just an illogical whataboutery. Why would a muslim claim Lord Rama as theirs? You do realize right the term 'Nepali' is about nationality and 'muslim' is religious?

Ram is a symbol of hinduism and not something exclusive to India. Hinduism is the state religion of Nepal. So a Nepali claiming Rama as theirs is totally different from people of other faith claiming to be the same.

I get the point that you want to potray India as intolerant towards muslims. But atleast pick the correct thread and logical whataboutery.

That still doesn't answer the question i posed. WHat if Oli was a Muslim? Another negative portrayal of Muslims would follow from Bakhts? Isn't that true. You know it is true isn't it? Remove the whole "lets just show India in positive image always" non-sense and tell us what your heart says.
 
India-Nepal meet ‘soon’ to discuss all bilateral issues, but Kalapani talks will have to wait

New Delhi: With the Boundary Working Group (BWG) of India and Nepal expected to meet soon, New Delhi said it is ready to discuss all issues of bilateral importance with Kathmandu, except the Kalapani border issue, ThePrint has learnt.

Indian Ambassador to Nepal Vinay Mohan Kwatra is currently visiting New Delhi for “consultations” on issues that entail restoration and repair of boundary pillars in the border areas and discussion on no-man’s land area, sources said.

While these discussions will be given priority and taken up during the BWG meet “soon”, the sources added, bilateral talks on the controversial Kalapani region will not take place as that will happen at the level of foreign secretaries’ meeting.

“There is no question of border talks,” a top official, who did not want to be named, told ThePrint.

India had said it would sit for the border talks once the pandemic subsides. However, Nepal went ahead and issued a new map on 20 May, showing the disputed regions of Kalapani, Limpiyadhura and Lipulekh as part of its own territory, which was rejected by India.

Nepal took this step after India inaugurated a new road to Kailash Mansarovar passing through the Lipulekh region. It had been pushing India for talks on the border issue since last year when New Delhi released its own political map. But India is yet to come up with a date.

The BWG, which takes place under the aegis of Surveyor General of India under the Department of Science and Technology, had earlier set a deadline of 2022 for completing all pending boundary-related work.

The upcoming BWG meet has been proposed by Kathmandu and, the sources said, it was also discussed when Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his counterpart K.P.S. Oli spoke on 15 August.

On 17 August, both India and Nepal held the meeting of the ‘Oversight Mechanism’ that took stock of the India-funded developmental projects there. The meeting was held in Kathmandu between Kwatra and Nepal Foreign Secretary Shanker Das Bairagi.

The meeting of the ‘Oversight Mechanism’ took place after a gap of a year whereas it is supposed to meet in every two-three months.

https://theprint.in/diplomacy/india...-but-kalapani-talks-will-have-to-wait/486725/
 
This whole Nepal issue is manufactured by China. China wants to create enemies for India. Nepalese PM Mr.Sharmaji is obliging his masters in Beijing.

I heard India asked for permisjon to use Nepalese land in the war against China in 1960s and after the war India never left and are still occupying these lands, these lands Nepal now want back?Is this true?
 
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