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New Zealand (264/8) defeat Pakistan (221) by 43 runs in the third ODI to accomplish the series whitewash by 3-0

What nonsense stuff from Sufiyan. A specialist spinner with zero batting or fielding skills. Better be an Ajmal level bowler if that's the only thing you bring to the table.
Ajmal was pretty good in field. Sufyan can't even touch the ball. Needs to work on it to sustain at this level.
 
I think we gave away too many runs again.

This is equivalent of 315 in 50 overs which Pakistan probably cant achieve on this pitch with some assistance to bowlers.
 
Seriously, people on Pp were calling him next big thing for Pakistan. Such a pathetic useless fellow he us turning out to be.
Next big thing based on what? He has done nothing at this level and doesn’t look like he has any skill whatsoever.

Completely useless.

And Kamran Ghulam was dropped because of his fielding to accommodate this joke.
 
Bracewell hasn't done much with since the spanking of Indian trundlers where he smashed like 10 sixes and scored 140 i think in like 70 balls.

Good knock by him today.
Those same so called "trundlers" would have run through this kiwi side on this pitch and conditions.
 
Those same so called "trundlers" would have run through this kiwi side on this pitch and conditions.
I don't think they would have done much better than these guys. Remember how india got blanked by New Zealand novice side when they last toured there.
 
This particular ground helps wristies a lot. Chahal, Imran Tahir, Kuldeep yadav all had very good returns on this ground. I am surprised they are not playing Sodhi here.
 
Don’t even feel like watching anymore, that’s how boring our batting is.

Atleast the bowling and fielding provide some comedy.
 
Babar is a mediocre player.

His stardom was based on chasing middling 250 to 270 scores in ODI and 140s to 160s in T20s when Pakistan had a slightly better bowling attack.

The moment he has to play faster than that, he is a complete liability to the team.

And since scores for last 3 years are steadily increasing his value is absolutely zero to any game Pakistan plays.

He bats for himself mainly to make fans think he is trying but even he knows that all he is doing is making the loss a tad respectable.
 
Next big thing based on what? He has done nothing at this level and doesn’t look like he has any skill whatsoever.

Completely useless.

And Kamran Ghulam was dropped because of his fielding to accommodate this joke.
Next big thing based on what? He has done nothing at this level and doesn’t look like he has any skill whatsoever.

Completely useless.

And Kamran Ghulam was dropped because of his fielding to accommodate this joke.
KG is 100x better than him in all the departments. He is a real fraud.
 
I don't think they would have done much better than these guys. Remember how india got blanked by New Zealand novice side when they last toured there.
Blanked? There was a single match played in that series, rest were all washed out. And that match was on a 300+ wicket. Give those bowlers such a helpful wicket and see.
 
Babar is a mediocre player.

His stardom was based on chasing middling 250 to 270 scores in ODI and 140s to 160s in T20s when Pakistan had a slightly better bowling attack.

The moment he has to play faster than that, he is a complete liability to the team.

And since scores for last 3 years are steadily increasing his value is absolutely zero to any game Pakistan plays.

He bats for himself mainly to make fans think he is trying but even he knows that all he is doing is making the loss a tad respectable.
True, but we have seen in this series, the bench is equally bad. So in nutshell I would be surprised to see Pak cricket rising again to the level where it used to be
 
Dead rubber. Some players are expected to come to party. Rizwan was very serious on the field shouting at every fielder (probably wasted 15 minutes in the process). So he will try to score a 50 or so and save his face.
 
I don't think they would have done much better than these guys. Remember how india got blanked by New Zealand novice side when they last toured there.
India has a 2-1 record on this ground and restricted NZL to 243 in 2019, only time they fielded first here. Now watch the match.
 
Leaking too many runs once again... Akif did a fine job but his economy was on higher side but he still took 4 wickets, which a good thing to see. We finally move on from Shaheen the eagle
 
True, but we have seen in this series, the bench is equally bad. So in nutshell I would be surprised to see Pak cricket rising again to the level where it used to be
Judging bench from players playing first overseas tour on difficult pitches in really really dumb. Even many of the greatest players didn't succeed in their first few overseas tours.
 
I don't think they would have done much better than these guys. Remember how india got blanked by New Zealand novice side when they last toured there.
Last time we played an ODI in NZ, they were full strength. Not a D side like the one PAK are currently playing.
 
Leaking too many runs once again... Akif did a fine job but his economy was on higher side but he still took 4 wickets, which a good thing to see. We finally move on from Shaheen the eagle
Shaheen has lost form, when he has been really good for us in the recent past.

Akif is too raw unfortunately. Lacks control but has had a decent first overseas tour.
 
KG is 100x better than him in all the departments. He is a real fraud.
KG what little chances he's gotten has an avg of 46 and sr of 89 at no 3. His stats of 30 avg and 99 SR are impressive considering he's been made to bat at no 6 for 90% of his career.

He should definitely atleast be given a no 4 spot.
 
Leaking too many runs once again... Akif did a fine job but his economy was on higher side but he still took 4 wickets, which a good thing to see. We finally move on from Shaheen the eagle

Shaheen has lost form, when he has been really good for us in the recent past.

Akif is too raw unfortunately. Lacks control but has had a decent first overseas tour.
Since 2024

Shaheen Afridi

ODI average, 26, t20 average 21

Naseem shah

ODI average 38, t20 average 35

Who really has lost form and whom should you move on from?
 
So much for selecting players based on recent form, huh. Imam is still a turd and was a failure in CT as well. 10 off 26 vs India and 3 off 12 vs NZ in the first match.

Seems wild to me there's been literally zero chance in his approach too. You'd figure he sees openers like Saim Ayub who are playing a modern form of cricket and tries to adapt his game to reflect it, but nope. Instead he comes back to slower than ever. What a comeback.
 
So much for selecting players based on recent form, huh. Imam is still a turd and was a failure in CT as well. 10 off 26 vs India and 3 off 12 vs NZ in the first match.

Seems wild to me there's been literally zero chance in his approach too. You'd figure he sees openers like Saim Ayub who are playing a modern form of cricket and tries to adapt his game to reflect it, but nope. Instead he comes back to slower than ever. What a comeback.
Imam has lost form as well. Previously he was a very slow but steady accumulator, you could atleast rely on his to not cause a collapse.

Now even his reactions have slowed down. This guy is in his 20's and it feels like we are watching a 40 year bat at the end of his career.
 
So much for selecting players based on recent form, huh. Imam is still a turd and was a failure in CT as well. 10 off 26 vs India and 3 off 12 vs NZ in the first match.

Seems wild to me there's been literally zero chance in his approach too. You'd figure he sees openers like Saim Ayub who are playing a modern form of cricket and tries to adapt his game to reflect it, but nope. Instead he comes back to slower than ever. What a comeback.
that is the astounding part of Pakistan , in other teams player goes back in domestic circuit they get better , in Pakistan they regress :hasan2
 
Shaheen is defo > Naseem as a bowler even now despite his crap form
Those numbers are night and day difference. Afridi played a key role in the series won against Aus and South Africa.

Which is why I am baffled he is always targeted by fans and Naseem who has 10X worse numbers is always considered good performer who should be in team at all cost.
 
Those numbers are night and day difference. Afridi played a key role in the series won against Aus and South Africa.

Which is why I am baffled he is always targeted by fans and Naseem who has 10X worse numbers is always considered good performer who should be in team at all cost.
both are crap
 
This looks more serious than what I expected...

Babar comes out to bat as Imam is taken out of the field.


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Those numbers are night and day difference. Afridi played a key role in the series won against Aus and South Africa.

Which is why I am baffled he is always targeted by fans and Naseem who has 10X worse numbers is always considered good performer who should be in team at all cost.
Shaheen has lost alot of form as well but I think he's targeted due to antics and controversy. This is the issue with Pakistani players and fans themselves.

Theirs way too much drama such as Shaheen having a bollywood villian arc and going on twitter posting a Lion video about how he was betrayed from captaincy and now he's hunting his own teammates as prey 🤣🤣.

Then fakhar making a tweet. Nothing wrong with his supporting babar but he brought SNGPL and political agendas for no reason.

these types of dramas hurt their reputation and also change fan perception, As far as I'm aware, Naseem hasn't even been in any drama or controversy.

However fans literally cannot treat cricket and politics as 2 seprate entities. Stark difference from Australia who don't care much about Steve smith and Warner's drama in test cricket, they just care about these 2 being solid test cricketers and helping them win ashes, wtc and BGT
 
Beautiful, So what did this guy contribute since his glorious return? While I don't wish injury upon anyone, this might actually benefit Pakistan more then it hurt them
 
Abdullah and his usual stylish shots that are useless... Not sure why people rate him high enough.
 
Man what kind of boring batting is this so far..short and wide and babar just bunts this.
What is wrong with Pakistani batters.. hit some boundaries.
 
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