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New Zealand Cricket has said no to a request for the Blackcaps to tour Pakistan for the first time in 15 years.

The Blackcaps will head to the United Arab Emirates in October to face Pakistan in three tests, three one day internationals and three Twenty 20 matches.

Pakistan Cricket Board officials had hoped to convince officials to move the T20 series to Pakistan, but New Zealand Cricket has informed the PCB that won't be happening.

"At the end of the day it came down to following the advisory and the security reports we'd obtained." NZ Cricket Chairman Greg Barclay told NEWSHUB.

"There's no doubt they (Pakistan Cricket Board) are disappointed. I think they saw a tour by a country like New Zealand as being a great precedent for them to start to build an international programme back in Pakistan.

"So they're disappointed but they're good guys, we get on really well with Pakistan, and I think they're fully accepting of the decision that we've reached."

New Zealand last visited Pakistan in 2003, a year after a bomb blast outside the team's hotel in Karachi brought a premature end to the tour.

Pakistan have played most of their 'home' games in the U.A.E. since a 2009 terrorist attack on a Sri Lankan team bus in Lahore.

Asked if Blackcaps players were prepared to go to Pakistan and whether New Zealand Cricket would have been able to send a team, Barclay said "I think that probably would have been difficult for a variety of reasons. We fortunately didn't get to the point where we had to have those discussions."

"We're very sympathetic to the plight they find themselves in, we're a member of the ICC, we're very aware that the ICC are trying to facilitate more international cricket in Pakistan and we're very supportive of that.

"But all circumstances considered, we just decided circumstances weren't right for us to tour at the moment." said Barclay.

Two to three months of due diligence was undertaken to analyse risk, but Barclay confirmed New Zealand Cricket did not send any of their own representatives to conduct their own checks.

In April, the West Indies became the first side to tour Pakistan in nine years, playing a three-match T20 series. The series passed without incident, and West Indies coach Stuart Law was satisfied that his team were safe.

"The security has been outstanding," Law said.

"We were communicated very well about the issues or incidents that may arise here, but we haven't seen any of them."

"It's a bit daunting for the people outside but once you get here and see it for yourself, you feel more confident."

"People will still have reservations but from what I've seen here it's more than adequate that's for sure to make sure that we can get cricket back in Pakistan."

Barclay said the success of the West Indies tour was taken into consideration when New Zealand Cricket made its decision.

"I can't comment on the decision process that the West Indies went through, perhaps some of the timings may have been different as well, I just know that we went through a very thorough process and I'm comfortable with the decision that we got to" Barclay said.

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"So they're disappointed but they're good guys, we get on really well with Pakistan, and I think they're fully accepting of the decision that we've reached."

Oh, shut up. You refused and that's it. Don't try to act all nice after.
 
Unfortunate as Pk has had some years of relative calm since the darkest days. But election violence/targetting caused a spike.
Pk need to ask/try to get the non Western sides first. I feel 2020 may see a test return.
 
I think the next time we play NZ in NZ, we should only agree to play as many Tests as possible. I wouldn't offer to have any T20 there because business deals are basically (you scratch my back and I'll scratch your back) type stuff.

More tests and only a select number of LOIs (One Dayers only).
 
India is far more likely than Western countries to visit Pakistan. It's not just about security, it's also about culture.
 
They are well within their rights to deny the offer. IMO Caucasian teams will be last ones to set foot on Pakistani soil.

PCB must try convincing Asian teams first. India could have agreed for a tour if not for the strained relations between the two countries so Bangaldesh is the next best choice.
 
Have a feeling that election violence may have been reason for this.
 
NZ were in Karachi when a bomb went off they will probably be one of the last teams to tour Pakistan again.
And like I have said many times before asking for a full tour is asking for an outright rejection. Scheduling 1 t20 where a team can come play and leave the same day is what PCB should be asking for and slowly increase the tour size in Pakistan subsequently each tour. Asking any westerner team to stay for 10-12 match Full tour means they have to stay in Pakistan for 45-60 days in multiple cities which is not going to any time soon.
 
I would have been critical had this refusal come a few months ago. But the recent rise in suicide attacks around election time will have shattered perceptions overseas, so its understandable.
 
Couch Cricketer said:
NZ were in Karachi when a bomb went off they will probably be one of the last teams to tour Pakistan again.
And like I have said many times before asking for a full tour is asking for an outright rejection. Scheduling 1 t20 where a team can come play and leave the same day is what PCB should be asking for and slowly increase the tour size in Pakistan subsequently each tour. Asking any westerner team to stay for 10-12 match Full tour means they have to stay in Pakistan for 45-60 days in multiple cities which is not going to any time soon.
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They toured Pakistan after that incident
 
They COULD have visited for 1 or 2 T20is if played on two consecutive days but, the recent incidents have an impact on their decision, I reckon.
 
Teams could visit in this order(not for full series but, just for 3 t20is)

Ban
SL
Afg
Ind(if relations improve wit gov change)
SA
NZ
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ENG
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AUS
 
Hopefully Imran can find enough time to personally convince them to tour Pakistan. He’ll be the head of the state and I’m sure he’ll have enough goodwill to convince the NZ board. These election violence have really mess things up but ironically I believe they will also become the reason for the return of cricket in Pakistan.
 
Kohli said:
Teams could visit in this order(not for full series but, just for 3 t20is)

Ban
SL
Afg
Ind(if relations improve wit gov change)
SA
NZ
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ENG
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AUS
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Ban is just as unlikely as Ind to visit Pak I reckon. Their relations with Pak has turned extremely sour after Sheik Hasina Wazed came to power. Unlike India, I don't think Bengalis have any cultural ties to have a desire to play Pak either, so I doubt relations would improve anytime soon. To them Pak would feel like just another faraway muslim country like Indonesia or Turkey.
 
Unfortunately the violence because of the elections has impacted this decion....but this violence is the storm before the calm so to speak as I feel now with Imran at the helm things will get better...when NZ are scheduled to tour paksitan next time hopefully by then teams would have started to visit paksitan.
 
"We're very sympathetic to the plight they find themselves in, we're a member of the ICC, we're very aware that the ICC are trying to facilitate more international cricket in Pakistan and we're very supportive of that.
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err no your not..if you were you might have agreed to play say a t20 match or two. The "white" nations and india are not sympathetic to Pakistan cricket and have never been seen unless their own interests are involved.
 
Kohli said:
Teams could visit in this order(not for full series but, just for 3 t20is)

Ban
SL
Afg
Ind(if relations improve wit gov change)
SA
NZ
.
.
.
ENG
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
AUS
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I'd put SA ahead of SL. Many players from their main team toured Pakistan with the World XI and even way back in 2007 when big teams started to get reluctant touring Pakistan, SA toured and even played a match in Peshawar when some people were deeming the city unsafe
 
I understand the election violence has caused concern but the major blast that occurred was in Quetta which won't host any international matches.

Also, NZC should've sent their own representatives to assess the security arrangements for themselves.
 
Markhor said:
Also, NZC should've sent their own representatives to assess the security arrangements for themselves.
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How is it going to make any difference? Believe the local agencies inputs are more valuable than that of a team(s) who are stationed for just a couple of weeks/months
 
Chief Destroyer said:
"So they're disappointed but they're good guys, we get on really well with Pakistan, and I think they're fully accepting of the decision that we've reached."

Oh, shut up. You refused and that's it. Don't try to act all nice after.
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It really isn't their fault. This is all part of the political and social isolation of Pakistan (as is the case with numerous other Muslim states). If Pakistan can strengthen their own political situation, they could push for changes to the so called security reasons provided by various organisations that advise sport teams.

Anyway, with West Indian, South African and English players having played at various stages in Pakistan, things are still headed in the right direction.
 
It's a shame but fair enough. Can't force them into anything.
 
the Great Khan said:
err no your not..if you were you might have agreed to play say a t20 match or two. The "white" nations and india are not sympathetic to Pakistan cricket and have never been seen unless their own interests are involved.
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They r just concerned about the safety of their players, nothing more. Their primary responsibility is to ensure the safety of their players and they r just doing their job. I m pretty sure if Pakistan had manged to improve its overall security situation NZ would've been definitely agreed to tour Pakistan.

But sadly Pakistan failed in that regard. Hence, u r seeing such negative responses from most of the cricket boards as far as touring Pakistan for a full fledged series is concerned. We also faced terrorist problem in our country but thankfully our efficient security agencies have weeded out most of them swiftly and managed to portray Bangladesh as a safe and secure country free from any sort of terrorist activities.

That's why even after couple of months of deadly terrorist attack teams like Australia and England didn't hesitate to tour us.
 
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bujhee kom said:
Unfortunate as Pk has had some years of relative calm since the darkest days. But election violence/targetting caused a spike.
Pk need to ask/try to get the non Western sides first. I feel 2020 may see a test return.
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Why dont you guys tour Pakistan for a series? Situtation there is not as bad in Pak as it was before. I understand that PCB acted like an irresponsible board by not inviting BD to UAE but no harm if BCB now shows kind gesture and tour Pak for a series. You have nothing to lose anyway (cricket wise). BD anyway plays less cricket and an ODI series against Pak can only help BD cricket. As a neutral, its will be a much better series than Pak thrashing a hapless zimb or BD tour of WI.
 
its a hard slog, the pcb has to accept and move on and try to convince others.
from a financial point of view (ie, managing costs) if they can get SL, Bangladesh, Zim, Windies at least to agree to play in Pakistan regularly that already halves their bill of hosting in UAE.
As for others, they just have to wait and keep trying to squeeze in the odd game or two. Its a long game and it will take time. While fans should vent as much as they want (they have a right to) the PCB should grin and bear it for the moment.
India touring is more of a black swan event, so better to put that aside for the moment.

Your regular reminder that Ijaz Butt has cause unparalleled damage to Pakistan cricket.
 
RainMan_ said:
They r just concerned about the safety of their players, nothing more. Their primary responsibility is to ensure the safety of their players and they r just doing their job. I m pretty sure if Pakistan had manged to improve its overall security situation NZ would've been definitely agreed to tour Pakistan.

But sadly Pakistan failed in that regard. Hence, u r seeing such negative responses from most of the cricket boards as far as touring Pakistan for a full fledged series is concerned. We also faced terrorist problem in our country but thankfully our efficient security agencies have weeded out most of them swiftly and managed to portray Bangladesh as a safe and secure country free from any sort of terrorist activities.

That's why even after couple of months of deadly terrorist attack teams like Australia and England didn't hesitate to tour us.
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You dont know what your talking about. Levels of attacks etc are at 2005/2004 levels and you can see who toured then. Levels are miles lower than 2008 when the asia cup was held and your team visited.

This is now a clear sign that there are countries who want to isolate us politically and culturally while biding their time to create a Syria like situation. Its not a surprise to us. Its been fifteen years since they havent toured.Why? Fifteen years ago South africa, england and India all toured why havent these guys?


They will be provided the same security XI the PM of China was provided. Hell it would be top notch and they would have nothing to worry about. We arent even asking for a full tour..they could have just played some t20 games..but no..I think its a disgrace..
 
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lets have a full season or 2 of the PSL without any hiccups before jumping the gun and inviting teams like NZ. well within their rights to decline.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
"So they're disappointed but they're good guys, we get on really well with Pakistan, and I think they're fully accepting of the decision that we've reached."

Oh, shut up. You refused and that's it. Don't try to act all nice after.
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What did you want them to say? We did have a good period of peace but just recently there were blasts in balochistan and KPK where people died just before elections. I dont blame them.
 
Best to hold a full PSL in Pakistan before inviting others. Why would a team tour you if you can’t hold your main T20 tourney at home.

In fact why not start with a mini PSL in Pakistan in the off season?
 
“Unfortunately the world is out to isolate Pakistan” posters will have a field day on this snub by NZC.

It is no surprise that we find ourselves the victims of an international onslaught regularly.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
Why dont you guys tour Pakistan for a series? Situtation there is not as bad in Pak as it was before. I understand that PCB acted like an irresponsible board by not inviting BD to UAE but no harm if BCB now shows kind gesture and tour Pak for a series. You have nothing to lose anyway (cricket wise). BD anyway plays less cricket and an ODI series against Pak can only help BD cricket. As a neutral, its will be a much better series than Pak thrashing a hapless zimb or BD tour of WI.
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First PCB needs to show good gesture rather threatening BCB. For that they can invite BD in UAE first and then they can invite BD in Pak. I believe that if PCB invite BD in UAE the BCB will surely show respect the PCB proposal.
PCB never showed respect to BCB and this is now has become the wall between the boards (and bd people's and govt's self respect)
 
Better to host the likes of WindiesZ, ZimbabweC, LankaD for multiple series for few more years and then can expect others to give it a try...when a bankrupted board like SL cant convince their contracted players to play in pak, when the own board cant host their own domestic league in their own country...it’s blasphemy to think that high profile teams can manage to tour pak even with their C teams
 
Good. Pakistan is not safe. Period. Bomb blasts on the daily is not safe. Players should not live and play in fear. The day players can walk and explore Pakistan freely with no worries is the day Pakistan can be considered safe. New Zealand don’t need to take the risk. Pakistan should look to improve relations with Bangladesh and play there.
 
ChuckLee said:
Good. Pakistan is not safe. Period. Bomb blasts on the daily is not safe. Players should not live and play in fear. The day players can walk and explore Pakistan freely with no worries is the day Pakistan can be considered safe. New Zealand don’t need to take the risk. Pakistan should look to improve relations with Bangladesh and play there.
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Which part of Pakistan do you live in brother?
 
It’s a question of having enough confidence to tour.

It will take another five years before ANY of the top teams tour.
 
Wonder why so many Bangladeshi friends are being outspoken on this thread but not so much in match and actual cricket on the field threads. :ds
 
I am expecting change in policies of many boards and countries once Imran Khan is at the helm of affairs. We have already seen a tone change of UAE, Iran, Many European countries etc in their diplomacy towards Pakistan.
 
I think this should not be taken as a big concern. NZ was anyway not coming here, they were just finding the excuse and time, which rightfully given to them during elections, and they gleefully accepted it.

Now sensible part: There is a change in government, change in law and order,and possibility of changes in PCB, which NZ has to deal with for next few months, if they decide to even stay for few hours in Pak. And no body is going to take that risk.

Eventually, things will improve, IK at helm, it will be much easier for PCB to convince other boards to come and play in pak, when even head of state can invite them to play.
 
ChuckLee said:
My dad is Pakistani and my mother is british. I have been to Pakistan before on multiple occasions. But to answer your question, Punjab.
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That didn't answer my question because I asked which part of Pakistan do you live in? Based on your response you don't live in Pakistan bro. My reference points are from my own life, I hail from Karachi, hold only a Pakistani passport; and run small businesses (on my Pakistani passport) in both the far east and Karachi.

And I can assure you the picture you're painting on this thread, is far from the truth! The Situation isn't like how you may find in European countries however it's not as bleak as poster in this thread are making it to be. Please come and live in Pakistan before passing of judgemental remarks on a country you visit during summer vacations.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
That didn't answer my question because I asked which part of Pakistan do you live in? Based on your response you don't live in Pakistan bro. My reference points are from my own life, I hail from Karachi, hold only a Pakistani passport; and run small businesses (on my Pakistani passport) in both the far east and Karachi.

And I can assure you the picture you're painting on this thread, is far from the truth! The Situation isn't like how you may find in European countries however it's not as bleak as poster in this thread are making it to be. Please come and live in Pakistan before passing of judgemental remarks on a country you visit during summer vacations.
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It takes decades to create an image.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
That didn't answer my question because I asked which part of Pakistan do you live in? Based on your response you don't live in Pakistan bro. My reference points are from my own life, I hail from Karachi, hold only a Pakistani passport; and run small businesses (on my Pakistani passport) in both the far east and Karachi.

And I can assure you the picture you're painting on this thread, is far from the truth! The Situation isn't like how you may find in European countries however it's not as bleak as poster in this thread are making it to be. Please come and live in Pakistan before passing of judgemental remarks on a country you visit during summer vacations.
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You asked what part of Pakistan I am from. I told you the geo location. To be precide, Lahore. You say visit Pakistan then finish your response with me visiting during summer holidays. What do you want me to do leave the first world and relocate to the third world? Their was bomb blasts today killing how many? That’s not safe. Period. When there is a bomb blast here it’s internstional news because of how rare it is and serous it is. In Pakistan it barely gets national coverage because it’s tbe norm.
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
I have nothing against Bangladesh saying no. You are confusing me with someone else.

My guess is, however, if roles were reversed, Pakistan would go to Bangladesh to help out.
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Friend, in these world no one do anything free. All is give and take. All rush to what is beneficial for ownself.
No, pak won't do the same.
 
Target is good from pcb they should always aim to go for top 5 country if they want to make stride.i think next team for full series should be Sl they have rich history of icc events and are like brother so we should expect a good response from them
 
Canford Cliffs said:
Why dont you guys tour Pakistan for a series? Situtation there is not as bad in Pak as it was before. I understand that PCB acted like an irresponsible board by not inviting BD to UAE but no harm if BCB now shows kind gesture and tour Pak for a series. You have nothing to lose anyway (cricket wise). BD anyway plays less cricket and an ODI series against Pak can only help BD cricket. As a neutral, its will be a much better series than Pak thrashing a hapless zimb or BD tour of WI.
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Its simple man. There is safety concerns no doubt, but main thing is BD dont want to loose relationship with BCCI in the process.

If BCCI gives go ahead for BD to tour I am pretty sure BCB would do it.
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
I have nothing against Bangladesh saying no. You are confusing me with someone else.

My guess is, however, if roles were reversed, Pakistan would go to Bangladesh to help out.
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Your guess is wrong actually - PCB won't do anything to help anyone, which has put them into such tight corner.

It was PCB first in 1990 that boycotted a tour of India, on security issues. IND-PAK relation had been salty always, therefore you can play around words regarding that boycott - BUT, absolutely no way you can explain why PCB declined to tour BD at 11th hour last year, which basically wasted 2 months for both Country and it was too close for BCB to arrange an alternative tour within that short notice even with AFGs or Irish board.

Cricket season window is shrinking for us, hence that 2/3 months between July to September is a narrow space for home series, despite being heavy rainy season - and PCB spoiled it absolutely for no reason. I think, we are fine here as it is - no bilateral series with PAK and I don't mind if it continues for a decade; let it spoil to the dead end.
 
ChuckLee said:
You asked what part of Pakistan I am from. I told you the geo location. To be precide, Lahore. You say visit Pakistan then finish your response with me visiting during summer holidays. What do you want me to do leave the first world and relocate to the third world? Their was bomb blasts today killing how many? That’s not safe. Period. When there is a bomb blast here it’s internstional news because of how rare it is and serous it is. In Pakistan it barely gets national coverage because it’s tbe norm.
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Since when are there daily bomb blasts in Lahore? :91: My entire khaandaan is from Lahore and Faisalabad. I even chose to get married in Lahore because of how safe it is now.

Another frustrated Indian pretending to be a Pakistani.
 
ChuckLee said:
You asked what part of Pakistan I am from. I told you the geo location. To be precide, Lahore. You say visit Pakistan then finish your response with me visiting during summer holidays. What do you want me to do leave the first world and relocate to the third world? Their was bomb blasts today killing how many? That’s not safe. Period. When there is a bomb blast here it’s internstional news because of how rare it is and serous it is. In Pakistan it barely gets national coverage because it’s tbe norm.
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What bomb blasts took place today?How many bomb blast have taken place in Pakistan in the past year compared to say 2008?How many matches have been successfully held in Pakistan since 2015?
 
ChuckLee said:
You asked what part of Pakistan I am from. I told you the geo location. To be precide, Lahore. You say visit Pakistan then finish your response with me visiting during summer holidays. What do you want me to do leave the first world and relocate to the third world? Their was bomb blasts today killing how many? That’s not safe. Period. When there is a bomb blast here it’s internstional news because of how rare it is and serous it is. In Pakistan it barely gets national coverage because it’s tbe norm.
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Blast? Where? Where are you currently and which channel are you watching and are you sure it wasnt your cooker?

Kindly avoid being irresponsible when writing such statements
 
How dare they do this...I'm sure Imran Khan will be very angry.
 
You guys dont hold your main domestic T20 tournament in Pakistan. How do you expect someone to tour Pakistan for a series then?
 
I don’t have time to respond to you guys individually so I’ll knock it out the park in one post.

I am not indian I am British with Pakistani heritage. I class myself as British and am proud of my Pakistani heritage. Believe it or not I support the Pakistan cricket team religiously. I remember when I was 13 years old old watching Pakistan vs India World Cup semi final and the heart break when Umar Akmal got out and then afridi and knew it’s game over needing 30 in the last over. To this day I don’t have the bottle to watch highlights of that game it hurts that much. My earliest memory was 2007 t20 World Cup when misbah reverse sweeped and got out. So let’s not question my love for the Pakistan team.

I am solely speaking economically, socially and politically. I have no agenda against Pakistan and honestly enjoyed my stay in 2011 and never did I personally feel unsafe I had a amazing time playing cricket everyday in the village and hills of mirpur.

However Pakistan is NOT SAFE FOR INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS! Nor is it safe for the civilians who will be the victims let’s be honest. The odds of players been directly hurt or killed are extremely slim. However the odds of innocent civilians in the area or attendance being hurt or killed are HIGH.

Being surrounded by the army and bomb proof this bomb proof that and 24 hour curfew and not allowed to explore beautiful and scenery rich Pakistan does not inspire confidence. Players would feel as if they are playing in the heart of Syria hiding from the IS.

I understand tou guys want cricket to return to Pakistan. Believe it or not the entire cricket world wants cricket to return to Pakistan. Probably not cuz they love Pakistan, but Pakistan is a big player and has a huge market which is viable economically. So don’t think there is an agenda against Pakistan.

Pakistan need to improve relations with Bangladesh and host their games there. Huge market and huge support for Pakistan. No more empty grounds. The new government should look to improve the social and internal issues of Pakistan. Improve relations with other country and build diplomatic relationships. Then after a couple of years into Pakistan new government when things are more settled and stable. We should then look to invite nations.

Remember one minor innocent with even a Nepal D team and back we return to 2009.

Don blame me if I think rationally and not emotionally.

Peace and love
 
Sidilicious said:
You guys dont hold your main domestic T20 tournament in Pakistan. How do you expect someone to tour Pakistan for a series then?
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And nz were invite for full series in pak?Pcb invite them for 2 or 3 t20s similar to what pcb sucessfully orgainze there premium domestic tournament this year .
 
ChuckLee said:
I don’t have time to respond to you guys individually so I’ll knock it out the park in one post.

I am not indian I am British with Pakistani heritage. I class myself as British and am proud of my Pakistani heritage. Believe it or not I support the Pakistan cricket team religiously. I remember when I was 13 years old old watching Pakistan vs India World Cup semi final and the heart break when Umar Akmal got out and then afridi and knew it’s game over needing 30 in the last over. To this day I don’t have the bottle to watch highlights of that game it hurts that much. My earliest memory was 2007 t20 World Cup when misbah reverse sweeped and got out. So let’s not question my love for the Pakistan team.

I am solely speaking economically, socially and politically. I have no agenda against Pakistan and honestly enjoyed my stay in 2011 and never did I personally feel unsafe I had a amazing time playing cricket everyday in the village and hills of mirpur.

However Pakistan is NOT SAFE FOR INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS! Nor is it safe for the civilians who will be the victims let’s be honest. The odds of players been directly hurt or killed are extremely slim. However the odds of innocent civilians in the area or attendance being hurt or killed are HIGH.

Being surrounded by the army and bomb proof this bomb proof that and 24 hour curfew and not allowed to explore beautiful and scenery rich Pakistan does not inspire confidence. Players would feel as if they are playing in the heart of Syria hiding from the IS.

I understand tou guys want cricket to return to Pakistan. Believe it or not the entire cricket world wants cricket to return to Pakistan. Probably not cuz they love Pakistan, but Pakistan is a big player and has a huge market which is viable economically. So don’t think there is an agenda against Pakistan.

Pakistan need to improve relations with Bangladesh and host their games there. Huge market and huge support for Pakistan. No more empty grounds. The new government should look to improve the social and internal issues of Pakistan. Improve relations with other country and build diplomatic relationships. Then after a couple of years into Pakistan new government when things are more settled and stable. We should then look to invite nations.

Remember one minor innocent with even a Nepal D team and back we return to 2009.

Don blame me if I think rationally and not emotionally.

Peace and love
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It is easy to write a eassy but you did not answer the question where was blast in pakistan you were claiming?
 
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Afg
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Why Bangladesh at the top instead if Afganistan?
 
saeed5646 said:
And nz were invite for full series in pak?Pcb invite them for 2 or 3 t20s similar to what pcb sucessfully orgainze there premium domestic tournament this year .
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how many premium overseas players took part in the pak’s leg of the tournament? Even a retired player like KP declined the offer and said sorry! That tells the story..isn’t it?
Instead of cooking conspiracy theories against west/India..first prove to the world by hosting your premium domestic tournament with premium overseas players(who are getting paid) full season in your home country and then do this for multiple years...then can ask others for full fledged tour or just 1-2 t20s...number of bomb blasts count from a specific year isnt gonna cut it..everyone needs proof and none other than your premium domestic tournament can prove better!!
 
So, top teams aren't going to visit Pakistan soon.That 2009 blast injury is yet to heal.
 
Mainul said:
Why Bangladesh at the top instead if Afganistan?
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I'd prefer Ban to Afghanistan any day. Regardless of Bangladeshi trolls on PP your fans like our a team a lot which is a nice touch and the fact your team is better than Afghanistan (despite the appalling form blip)
 
Wait for a year or two and many things will change. I understand the stance of some of the teams but its going to change automatically
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
how many premium overseas players took part in the pak’s leg of the tournament? Even a retired player like KP declined the offer and said sorry! That tells the story..isn’t it?
Instead of cooking conspiracy theories against west/India..first prove to the world by hosting your premium domestic tournament with premium overseas players(who are getting paid) full season in your home country and then do this for multiple years...then can ask others for full fledged tour or just 1-2 t20s...number of bomb blasts count from a specific year isnt gonna cut it..everyone needs proof and none other than your premium domestic tournament can prove better!!
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Just hold your bitterness to your self i have not said it is conspiracy just correct him what he said .
 
Pakpak said:
I'd prefer Ban to Afghanistan any day. Regardless of Bangladeshi trolls on PP your fans like our a team a lot which is a nice touch and the fact your team is better than Afghanistan (despite the appalling form blip)
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I didn't ask the question in that sense actually. Afganistan is more close to Pakistan both in terms of geographical,political,diplomatic and culture.They are newbie in test cricket.They haven't developed any ego and weight yet as a cricket playing nation.So it's natural to invite them to visit for a full series at present.Bangladesh is more rich in every aspect as a cricketing nation than Afganistan.It will be not a sensible thinking on behalf of anybody that Bangladesh will agree to tour Pakistan. Not in near future. I am not sure whether Pakistan is safe for our team right now.Nobody is.But I hope that situation improves dramatically there under Imran's leadership.
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
how many premium overseas players took part in the pak’s leg of the tournament? Even a retired player like KP declined the offer and said sorry! That tells the story..isn’t it?
Instead of cooking conspiracy theories against west/India..first prove to the world by hosting your premium domestic tournament with premium overseas players(who are getting paid) full season in your home country and then do this for multiple years...then can ask others for full fledged tour or just 1-2 t20s...number of bomb blasts count from a specific year isnt gonna cut it..everyone needs proof and none other than your premium domestic tournament can prove better!!
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Agreed. I need Pakistanis fans need to come out of their victimhood mentality.
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
how many premium overseas players took part in the pak’s leg of the tournament? Even a retired player like KP declined the offer and said sorry! That tells the story..isn’t it?
Instead of cooking conspiracy theories against west/India..first prove to the world by hosting your premium domestic tournament with premium overseas players(who are getting paid) full season in your home country and then do this for multiple years...then can ask others for full fledged tour or just 1-2 t20s...number of bomb blasts count from a specific year isnt gonna cut it..everyone needs proof and none other than your premium domestic tournament can prove better!!
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Do you know how many tour in last 2 years have happen?.do you know that what was squad which tour with world 11 in pakistan?.du plessi and paine both of whom are captain of there side internationally .keep your advise to your self no body is trying to create conspiracy against india and if you want to see what is real conspiracy is watch what your media is saying about pak next pm which is far from the truth
 
saeed5646 said:
It is easy to write a eassy but you did not answer the question where was blast in pakistan you were claiming?
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I’ll answer that with a question. How many bomb blasts were there in Pakistan in July and how many were killed and injured? That’s my answer. That alone would scare and competent and non money hungry player exploring board away. No top nations is touring Pakistan for the reasons I’ve stated. Stop playing the victim and think the worlds out to get Pakistan. They ain’t. Pakistan’s hiring Pakistan. Period.
 
ChuckLee said:
I’ll answer that with a question. How many bomb blasts were there in Pakistan in July and how many were killed and injured? That’s my answer. That alone would scare and competent and non money hungry player exploring board away. No top nations is touring Pakistan for the reasons I’ve stated. Stop playing the victim and think the worlds out to get Pakistan. They ain’t. Pakistan’s hiring Pakistan. Period.
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You are far from the reality and i am asking again where was blast yesteraday in pakistan?
 
saeed5646 said:
Do you know how many tour in last 2 years have happen?.do you know that what was squad which tour with world 11 in pakistan?.du plessi and paine both of whom are captain of there side internationally .keep your advise to your self no body is trying to create conspiracy against india and if you want to see what is real conspiracy is watch what your media is saying about pak next pm which is far from the truth
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A country which can’t host its own domestic tournament fully in their own country cursing other country who declined...lolll
Read previous post in the same thread abt bcci’s approval to bcb abt pak tour...the conspiracy 😂😂😂
 
saeed5646 said:
And nz were invite for full series in pak?Pcb invite them for 2 or 3 t20s similar to what pcb sucessfully orgainze there premium domestic tournament this year .
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NZ were invited for an international series.

And Pakistan do not even hold their premier domestic tournament at home.

Do you know how absurd that sounds?
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
A country which can’t host its own domestic tournament fully in their own country cursing other country who declined...lolll
Read previous post in the same thread abt bcci’s approval to bcb abt pak tour...the conspiracy 😂😂😂
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If this makes you happy then it shows your mentality

You need to check your eye sight the one who posted ""bcci approval about bcb"" is bd fan .
 
Sidilicious said:
NZ were invited for an international series.

And Pakistan do not even hold their premier domestic tournament at home.

Do you know how absurd that sounds?
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Pakistan is holding some matches in pakistan rather than what you have said .how absurd that sound?
 
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