New Zealand deserved to lose the World Cup final - They are a very poor team!

[shaz619]

New Zealand sneaked into the semis thanks largely to a miracle, majority of fans seem to sympathise with them due to a "nice guy" act they put on; but let it be known, they deserve to lose and it's actually much sweeter that victory was snatched from them on the brink.

New Zealand do not belong in the same class as England, the last 4 your proves that; apart from that fluke win over the over rated / mentally weak India in the semis what did they actually do ? when you get to the knock out phase, you could be Bangladesh and still have a decent chance, it's the pressure of a tournament which levels things out a bit, but that conceals how poor New Zealand are as a team.

Kane Williamson also didn't deserve the best player award, he was given it out of sympathy and also the nice guy act; Shakib had one of the greatest World Cup's of all time and it's a damn travesty that he was robbed.

New Zealand and their fans which continue to whinge, cry and moan deserve to lose; they are not very nice people at all and that act shouldn't brainwash your simple minds, I see through them all.

New Zealand are an extremely poor team who got lucky similar to Kenya in the 2003 World Cup and I can't see them recover from this traumatising beating from England; they knew the rules, fact is were defeated and failed to take matters into their own hands.

Mind you, I enjoyed seeing all the Indians who paid 5K for the WC final, put on their NZ tops; then were left very disappointed in the end. When will you learn? the sun just never sets on the British Empire! Glory to England, up there with Pakistan in 92 when it comes to ATG WC triumphs and teams, I see this England team beating all WC winners and give the 92 champions a real good fight.

Going back to New Zealand, it must be charity week! lets buy them a World Cup from Toys R Rus !

 

[shaz619]

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[PakLFC]

NZ punched above their weight. They always do this in WC's.

 

[topspin]

The attendance of these neutral posing fans at the final was like a visible plague in my eyes.

 

[JaDed]

You have become really bitter, even many Pakistanis have supported kiwis just FYI..

 

[Abdullah719]

You have become really bitter, even many Pakistanis have supported kiwis just FYI..

I think most neutrals were probably supporting NZ. They are a likeable team, plus neutrals usually back the underdogs.

 

[JaDed]

I think most neutrals were probably supporting NZ. They are a likeable team, plus neutrals usually back the underdogs.

True, this is a thread just to a dig at Indian supporters and the love kiwis are getting even though England won the tournament.

 

[zafarsyed]

There should be a process in place to delete such baseless threads from being created.

I just said way more than this thread deserved.

 

[Green Patriot]

They played exceptional cricket when it mattered and they didnt deserve to lose.Neither did England though.

 

[ssuhaide]

Poisonous thread. New Zealand were superb, highly skilled bowling attack, superb fielding and a great captain. They overcame their batting woes and punched above their weight to get to that final. Their form pre-world cup was pretty hot.

 

[Artaxerxes]

New Zealand played very well.Don't forget their population is less than 5 million and rugby is their national sport not cricket.They made it to the final and that is what matters.The so called top teams did not make it to the final.

 

[RickyG]

New Zealand sneaked into the semis thanks largely to a miracle, majority of fans seem to sympathise with them due to a "nice guy" act they put on; but let it be known, they deserve to lose and it's actually much sweeter that victory was snatched from them on the brink.

New Zealand do not belong in the same class as England, the last 4 your proves that; apart from that fluke win over the over rated / mentally weak India in the semis what did they actually do ? when you get to the knock out phase, you could be Bangladesh and still have a decent chance, it's the pressure of a tournament which levels things out a bit, but that conceals how poor New Zealand are as a team.

Kane Williamson also didn't deserve the best player award, he was given it out of sympathy and also the nice guy act; Shakib had one of the greatest World Cup's of all time and it's a damn travesty that he was robbed.

New Zealand and their fans which continue to whinge, cry and moan deserve to lose; they are not very nice people at all and that act shouldn't brainwash your simple minds, I see through them all.

New Zealand are an extremely poor team who got lucky similar to Kenya in the 2003 World Cup and I can't see them recover from this traumatising beating from England; they knew the rules, fact is were defeated and failed to take matters into their own hands.

Mind you, I enjoyed seeing all the Indians who paid 5K for the WC final, put on their NZ tops; then were left very disappointed in the end. When will you learn? the sun just never sets on the British Empire! Glory to England, up there with Pakistan in 92 when it comes to ATG WC triumphs and teams, I see this England team beating all WC winners and give the 92 champions a real good fight.

Going back to New Zealand, it must be charity week! lets buy them a World Cup from Toys R Rus !

I don't think you understand how world cups work...

Pakistan were on a 11 game losing streak before the world cup so then maybe New Zealand were more deserving of a semi final spot anyway. I think NZ were lucky to make it to the semis but they were excellent against India and England. Their luck shouldn't take away from how well the competed in the semi and final.

Shakib didn't deserve man of the series imho because he didn't help his team win enough games. He was outstanding but his contributions were largely insignificant. Starc, Rohit, Roy and Stokes would've been worthy winners of the award over Williamson though.

Also calling the 92 Pakistan team an ATG... That was a typical Pakistan win but by no means a dominant world cup performance.

This is a weak troll attempt though. You're trolling a country that's already lost and had their hearts broken.

I think you're English. Why not just celebrate without being crass and classless?

 

[sweep_shot]

Ridiculous thread.

NZ went to final by beating India. They went to final fair and square.

If anything, England should've lost this game. NZ were the better team but England won the key moments.

 

[Aman]

First team in history to win a WC without winning the Final.

Truth be told, most do not consider this a WC win. It is tainted and everyone is talking about everything but England.

Everything went against us and England still couldn't beat us. As far as I'm concerned England are yet to truly be world champions and deep down English fans know it. To win on boundaries is laughable.

 

[kingusama92]

You can say many things about their performance leading up to the finals but they were fantastic on Sunday.

 

[Aman]

You can say many things about their performance leading up to the finals but they were fantastic on Sunday.

The thing that makes me so proud is they had everything in that match go against them and they still didn't lose.

 

[Gilly]

OP is butt hurt because no one is talking about England and he knows deep down they're still on 0.

Everyone is going to talk about how the stupid rules cost NZ a WC, not England winning. Most of the coverage around the world has been on that than England.

We have a few spare WC trophies laying around somewhere, you can have one of them if you want.

PS you have to pay the postage though.

 

[Hasan123]

Harsh thread. They arent better than the 3 big overall but they earned their place in the final. If they won it, they would have deserved it.

 

[Aman]

We have a few spare WC trophies laying around somewhere, you can have one of them if you want.

PS you have to pay the postage though.

Rather win one..

 

[jnaveen1980]

Why do you guys bring up their preliminary round performances. They did just enough to get to the last 4. Beat the most inform team when mattered. Was the better team in the final against home team favorites. They compensated their inadequacies with outstanding fielding.

 

[sweep_shot]

Their only weak point is their batting. West Indies has better batting than NZ.

However, NZ has amazing fighting spirit and their bowling is one of the best in ODI. They are generally tremendous fielders. All in all, they are a top ODI side.

They went to final on merit and put up one of the best performances in ODI history.

 

[Hasan123]

Why do you guys bring up their preliminary round performances. They did just enough to get to the last 4. Beat the most inform team when mattered. Was the better team in the final against home team favorites. They compensated their inadequacies with outstanding fielding.

The funniest thing is , the posters who were saying Pakistan should have gone through due to head to head are now saying NZ deserved to win the WC. )

For me whoever won the final would have deserved it. England just had more luck on the day.

 

[Aman]

Their only weak point is their batting. West Indies has better batting than NZ.

However, NZ has amazing fighting spirit and their bowling is one of the best in ODI. They are generally tremendous fielders. All in all, they are a top ODI side.

They went to final on merit and put up one of the best performances in ODI history.

I'm stunned how a team can have that much go against them and still not lose to a team of England's caliber.

It's as if they had god on their side and they still couldn't defeat us.

 

[Bahnz]

Lol yes. The team ranked #2 in tests and #3 in ODI's, with the #2 ranked bowler and the #5 and 6 ranked batsmen is a "very poor team".

I know the OP is just bitter about Pakistan missing out, but the truth is New Zealand didn't even "punch above their weight" this tournament. By their standards, they played poorly in the group phase (I don't think there was a single game where they didn't drop a couple of basic chances and throw away wickets with poor shots), and they only clicked in the group phase - which of course is something you expect of a top side.

 

[ali061091]

The funniest thing is , the posters who were saying Pakistan should have gone through due to head to head are now saying NZ deserved to win the WC. )

For me whoever won the final would have deserved it. England just had more luck on the day.

Luck is a dropped catch, run out chance missed or something along those lines. Blatant violation of the rules is not luck.

 

[ali061091]

New Zealand sneaked into the semis thanks largely to a miracle, majority of fans seem to sympathise with them due to a "nice guy" act they put on; but let it be known, they deserve to lose and it's actually much sweeter that victory was snatched from them on the brink.

New Zealand do not belong in the same class as England, the last 4 your proves that; apart from that fluke win over the over rated / mentally weak India in the semis what did they actually do ? when you get to the knock out phase, you could be Bangladesh and still have a decent chance, it's the pressure of a tournament which levels things out a bit, but that conceals how poor New Zealand are as a team.

Kane Williamson also didn't deserve the best player award, he was given it out of sympathy and also the nice guy act; Shakib had one of the greatest World Cup's of all time and it's a damn travesty that he was robbed.

New Zealand and their fans which continue to whinge, cry and moan deserve to lose; they are not very nice people at all and that act shouldn't brainwash your simple minds, I see through them all.

New Zealand are an extremely poor team who got lucky similar to Kenya in the 2003 World Cup and I can't see them recover from this traumatising beating from England; they knew the rules, fact is were defeated and failed to take matters into their own hands.

Mind you, I enjoyed seeing all the Indians who paid 5K for the WC final, put on their NZ tops; then were left very disappointed in the end. When will you learn? the sun just never sets on the British Empire! Glory to England, up there with Pakistan in 92 when it comes to ATG WC triumphs and teams, I see this England team beating all WC winners and give the 92 champions a real good fight.

Going back to New Zealand, it must be charity week! lets buy them a World Cup from Toys R Rus !

Lol people are already comparing this to the 1966 world cup where the great British empire robbed the germans.

 

[Gilly]

Why do you guys bring up their preliminary round performances. They did just enough to get to the last 4. Beat the most inform team when mattered. Was the better team in the final against home team favorites. They compensated their inadequacies with outstanding fielding.

How can they be the better team?.

 

[sweep_shot]

How can they be the better team?.

It is like person A and person B are writing an exam. Wind blows away the solution paper from teacher's desk and took it to person A's desk. Person A scores higher than person B thanks to the solution paper. Does it mean person A did better? Technically, person A did better but we can conclude that person A was aided by external factor.

Same applies to England. England was person A and NZ was person B.

 

[ManFan]

I’ve heard of sore losers before but sore winners...

 

[jnaveen1980]

How can they be the better team?.

Technically NZ scored one run more than England. Bat deflecting the ball going to the boundary is one of the most amazing fluke one can have in a final.

 

[Suleiman]

English and desi English fans looking forward to the next WC

 

[Sunny_majoka]

The deserved it not. But that's how world cup works. If you lost in a final you're 2nd best team. Doesn't matter how you get into final

 

[tyron_woodley]

New Zealand sneaked into the semis thanks largely to a miracle, majority of fans seem to sympathise with them due to a "nice guy" act they put on; but let it be known, they deserve to lose and it's actually much sweeter that victory was snatched from them on the brink.

New Zealand do not belong in the same class as England, the last 4 your proves that; apart from that fluke win over the over rated / mentally weak India in the semis what did they actually do ? when you get to the knock out phase, you could be Bangladesh and still have a decent chance, it's the pressure of a tournament which levels things out a bit, but that conceals how poor New Zealand are as a team.

Kane Williamson also didn't deserve the best player award, he was given it out of sympathy and also the nice guy act; Shakib had one of the greatest World Cup's of all time and it's a damn travesty that he was robbed.

New Zealand and their fans which continue to whinge, cry and moan deserve to lose; they are not very nice people at all and that act shouldn't brainwash your simple minds, I see through them all.

New Zealand are an extremely poor team who got lucky similar to Kenya in the 2003 World Cup and I can't see them recover from this traumatising beating from England; they knew the rules, fact is were defeated and failed to take matters into their own hands.

Mind you, I enjoyed seeing all the Indians who paid 5K for the WC final, put on their NZ tops; then were left very disappointed in the end. When will you learn? the sun just never sets on the British Empire! Glory to England, up there with Pakistan in 92 when it comes to ATG WC triumphs and teams, I see this England team beating all WC winners and give the 92 champions a real good fight.

Going back to New Zealand, it must be charity week! lets buy them a World Cup from Toys R Rus !

rofl. this englund team is overrated. Had they faced india who you call overrated in the semis or finals, I can guarantee you they would have lost. Pakistam already beat them once and there is no reason why they can do it again in crucial stages.

let alone the all time great aussie team of 2003, this team won't beat 2015 australia, 2011 india nor would they beat 1999 s.africa.

They are never winning the title again. only dimwitted sycophant humps like you would overrated this englund side. Biggest fluke on earth. They dint deserve to beat n.zealand either. Wait they technically dint even win?rofl
match tied and won on super overs.

 

[James]

I spend a lot of time on the Internet and I am sorry to say that the bitterness on PP about this Final is far more intense than anywhere else.

What is funniest is some posters arrogantly and incorrectly projecting their own opinions as if they speak for the rest of the world.

Ironically the New Zealand team and management have accepted the result and the winner.

 

[Aman]

[MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] don't take it personally, I have my mind set on what it means to and deserve to be world champion. I don't even think we played well enough to make the SFs but the team lifted and performed above and beyond for the SFs an Final.

Personally, I wouldn't have considered it a win, if you do whatever. That's just me, to me it would be hollow for us to win in that fashion. It would be the same as being shared or winning because of a washout.

There are others who would accept it but whatever, it's win. I would want to emphatically win one and I would want to win where there is no doubting or questioning it.

 

[Gilly]

Dont worry James the Kiwis get over things like this real fast, after the underarm ball they stopped going on about it after about 30 years.

 

[Aman]

Dont worry James the Kiwis get over things like this real fast, after the underarm ball they stopped going on about it after about 30 years.

Talk when you lose a WC or Ashes on boundaries.

 

[in_cutter]

I am chuffed that Eng won it but this thread is poor. New Zealand are a very poor team? Far from it. If you look at their WC record, it is exceptional. They have a fighting batting lineup and world class fast bowlers.

To settle a major final in case if a tie, it should be best of 3 overs at least.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

England deserved the trophy, nz should be happy with the runner up tag,,they punched above their weights.

 

[London_Lahori]

First team in history to win a WC without winning the Final.

Truth be told, most do not consider this a WC win. It is tainted and everyone is talking about everything but England.

Everything went against us and England still couldn't beat us. As far as I'm concerned England are yet to truly be world champions and deep down English fans know it. To win on boundaries is laughable.

I can tell you everyone considers it to be a World Cup win with the exception of bitters.

 

[London_Lahori]

I spend a lot of time on the Internet and I am sorry to say that the bitterness on PP about this Final is far more intense than anywhere else.

What is funniest is some posters arrogantly and incorrectly projecting their own opinions as if they speak for the rest of the world.

Ironically the New Zealand team and management have accepted the result and the winner.

Agreed, it seems the subcontinent is more wet over the issue then the Kiwis themselves.

 

[Aman]

I can tell you everyone considers it to be a World Cup win with the exception of bitters.

Consider it bitter, whatever. I'm being blunt, it could have been anyone else in our place or even us the beneficiary and I would have said the same thing.

This is the first time a WC champion has not won the final.

 

[Aman]

[MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] do you think I would have seriously in my heart of hearts accepted winning a world championship on boundaries? ) )

I would be filthy there wasn't a more conclusive way to legitimize the win because everyone would question it and bring up we never won the Final.

This is someone who thought we were pathetic in the last few games in the groups and didn't deserve to go through to the Semis based on our performances against the top teams, and other teams would offer more fight.

 

[Hasan123]

Luck is a dropped catch, run out chance missed or something along those lines. Blatant violation of the rules is not luck.

England didn't break the rules.

 

[Ram Shekhar]

Poor thread. Doesn't matter whether they 'deserve' it or not. They gave us the match of our lifetimes. They qualified and not the other teams. Just take it on your chin and move on.

 

[London_Lahori]

[MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] do you think I would have seriously in my heart of hearts accepted winning a world championship on boundaries? ) )

I would be filthy there wasn't a more conclusive way to legitimize the win because everyone would question it and bring up we never won the Final.

This is someone who thought we were pathetic in the last few games in the groups and didn't deserve to go through to the Semis based on our performances against the top teams, and other teams would offer more fight.

No you wouldn't, you would have lapped it up.

NZ did not deserve to win this World Cup, that's the truth. England deserved it, England won it.

#MCGSOBIG #SUPEROVERWC

 

[Aman]

No you wouldn't, you would have lapped it up.

NZ did not deserve to win this World Cup, that's the truth. England deserved it, England won it.

#MCGSOBIG #SUPEROVERWC

We made the Semis and I thought we didn't deserve to be there )

I'm going to call a spade a spade and not let my bias cloud my judgement.

 

[Rana]

De Grandhome did well in the final but I am unsure as to why Corey Anderson was not there at number 6-7 instead?

 

[Madplayer]

This is the reason why i created that thread with the title "can a team deserve to win a match even before playing it".
It was a valid question which deserved seperate discussion but for some reasons the mods merged it with irrelevant threads.

The point is, every match is played on merit and has to be looked at in isolation. If you tell a team that they dont deserve to win the match they are going to play because their track record in last 1 year isnt good, they will punch your teeth out.

 

[Aman]

De Grandhome did well in the final but I am unsure as to why Corey Anderson was not there at number 6-7 instead?

Corey is 28, if he gets it together he could be back for 2023.

We gear up for 2023.

Third time lucky, the gods owe us it. Hopefully the rules shaft England this time around to get it, to level things up.

Yes, I'm petty.

 

[Rana]

Corey is 28, if he gets it together he could be back for 2023.

We gear up for 2023.

Third time lucky, the gods owe us it. Hopefully the rules shaft England this time around to get it, to level things up.

Yes, I'm petty.

Think of it now, New Zealand keep the same XI that played the final and replace De Grandhome with Corey Anderson. Could well have pushed for 270-280 in the semis and the final, against Pakistan also

 

[hadi123]

You're not human if you have no sympathy for New Zealand. I'm heartbroken for them.

 

[Aman]

You're not human if you have no sympathy for New Zealand. I'm heartbroken for them.

Even Ravi Shastri came out in support...

 

[Robert]

First team in history to win a WC without winning the Final.

Truth be told, most do not consider this a WC win. It is tainted and everyone is talking about everything but England.

Everything went against us and England still couldn't beat us. As far as I'm concerned England are yet to truly be world champions and deep down English fans know it. To win on boundaries is laughable.

We are England
Super England
No-one likes us
WE DON’T CARE!

 

[Aman]

We are England
Super England
No-one likes us
WE DON’T CARE!

You guys moan about Maradona's hand of god till this day, you basically got handed a WC by the gods.

Never complain again.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I spend a lot of time on the Internet and I am sorry to say that the bitterness on PP about this Final is far more intense than anywhere else.

What is funniest is some posters arrogantly and incorrectly projecting their own opinions as if they speak for the rest of the world.

Ironically the New Zealand team and management have accepted the result and the winner.

No they didn't. Everyone was suggesting sharing of trophy. You have to check NZ news sources as well.

 

[Ab Fan]

NZ were the 4th best team in the world after India, Australia and England.

Hence, they deserve to make it to semis. After making into semis, it is about who plays better cricket on that given day.

In semi final, NZ played better cricket than India and they won.

In finals, NZ played better cricket than England though they couldn't win. However, England deserved it to win for the hard-work they did over the past 4 years.

 

[Robert]

You guys moan about Maradona's hand of god till this day, you basically got handed a WC by the gods.

Never complain again.

Apples and oranges. Maradonna cheated. England played fair and won by the tournament rules.

 

[Aman]

Apples and oranges. Maradonna cheated. England played fair and won by the tournament rules.

Officials missed the hand ball..

Umpires messed up multiple times... then there's the ICC's incompetence (unspoken rule of never running/scoring extra runs after the ball hits a batsmen - never reflected in the rules and then bringing across T20 rules over to ODIs - boundaries to determine a WC) which allowed England to end up champions.

 

[Robert]

Officials missed the hand ball..

Umpires messed up multiple times... then there's the ICC's incompetence (unspoken rule of never running/scoring extra runs after the ball hits a batsmen - never reflected in the rules and then bringing across T20 rules over to ODIs - boundaries to determine a WC) which allowed England to end up champions.

England got the rough end of a ref’s decision in the 1986 final and this time karma evened out for them. Umps are human too, they make mistakes in big games.

Unspoken rules are not real rules.

The boundaries rule was the same for everyone. England played bashing tactics ever since McCullum bashed them out of the 2015 WC but NZ forgot him. I would have preferred the old metric of least wickets lost to decide a tied game. But 2019 rules are 2019 rules.

 

[jnaveen1980]

All said and done England scored 1 run less. Thanks to Dharmasena they tied the match lol. This will always be a blot. Should have been shared. If NZ had more boundaries, they might have made some last minute change to the rule just like they poached a bowler from a foreign country at the last minute. Not sharing the trophy left a bad taste in mouth.

 

[Chokli]

Pakistan deserved to lose in 1992, 2009 and 2017 as well

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Even Ravi Shastri came out in support...

Kane is truly a legend among men.

I can't even put his greatness into words.

How does he do it? I want to learn it.

 

[barah_admi]

New Zealand sneaked into the semis thanks largely to a miracle, majority of fans seem to sympathise with them due to a "nice guy" act they put on; but let it be known, they deserve to lose and it's actually much sweeter that victory was snatched from them on the brink.

New Zealand do not belong in the same class as England, the last 4 your proves that; apart from that fluke win over the over rated / mentally weak India in the semis what did they actually do ? when you get to the knock out phase, you could be Bangladesh and still have a decent chance, it's the pressure of a tournament which levels things out a bit, but that conceals how poor New Zealand are as a team.

Kane Williamson also didn't deserve the best player award, he was given it out of sympathy and also the nice guy act; Shakib had one of the greatest World Cup's of all time and it's a damn travesty that he was robbed.

New Zealand and their fans which continue to whinge, cry and moan deserve to lose; they are not very nice people at all and that act shouldn't brainwash your simple minds, I see through them all.

New Zealand are an extremely poor team who got lucky similar to Kenya in the 2003 World Cup and I can't see them recover from this traumatising beating from England; they knew the rules, fact is were defeated and failed to take matters into their own hands.

Mind you, I enjoyed seeing all the Indians who paid 5K for the WC final, put on their NZ tops; then were left very disappointed in the end. When will you learn? the sun just never sets on the British Empire! Glory to England, up there with Pakistan in 92 when it comes to ATG WC triumphs and teams, I see this England team beating all WC winners and give the 92 champions a real good fight.

Going back to New Zealand, it must be charity week! lets buy them a World Cup from Toys R Rus !

You are normally a pretty coherent poster and I think you are probably trolling....HOWEVER, if you are not then you are being very unfair.

New Zealand are not a "very poor team". They have been pretty good consistently for years and years. In the 2015 WC they played some of the most exciting and exhilarating cricket ever in their history and fell on the last hurdle. Since then, they have been consistent and although E ngland are deserved winners, NZ have been an exceptional side and suffered some losses along the way but beat one of the tournament favourites to get to the final.

No reason to take that awa yfrom them.

 

[TalhaSyed]

New Zealand were the luckiest team in this World Cup to qualify for the Semi Final. I've said it all along. To scrape past SA & WI, to have the game vs Ind rained off and to get to the SF without having beaten anyone in the top half of the table was extremely lucky.

However, New Zealand was probably the most unlucky team in World Cup history to lose the final in the manner in which they did. Can't help but feel extremely sorry for them. I obviously feel bad for New Zealand players and fans right now, however, I am also extremely happy that I am not an England fan right now because I would really struggle to enjoy this victory.

To win the match due to scoring more boundaries after the umpire didn't know the rules. It was a thrilling match - possibly the best ODI ever - however, the fashion in which a result was achieved left much to be desired.

 

[James]

No they didn't. Everyone was suggesting sharing of trophy. You have to check NZ news sources as well.

Sharing of the trophy as a potential solution to resolving a tie *in the future*. They weren’t talking about this year’s World Cup trophy. Read the articles again.

 

[Robert]

Kane is truly a legend among men.

I can't even put his greatness into words.

How does he do it? I want to learn it.

Just seems like regular humility to me.

 

[Mamoon]

All said and done England scored 1 run less. Thanks to Dharmasena they tied the match lol. This will always be a blot. Should have been shared. If NZ had more boundaries, they might have made some last minute change to the rule just like they poached a bowler from a foreign country at the last minute. Not sharing the trophy left a bad taste in mouth.

Archer made his first-class debut for Sussex in 2016.

He played 3 T20s for West Indies U-19 in 2014, but they thought he wasn’t good enough and didn’t pick him for the 2014 U-19 World Cup. Barbados also didn’t give him a first-class debut.

That is when he decided to try his luck in England and now he is a World Cup winner.

What you call “last minute” is a process that happened over 3 years.

 

[satheesh]

I would say 'ENG deserved to win more than NZL is more apt'. As everybody knows cricket's result is a lot decided by toss(luck). In that sense, NZL was the luckiest of the 4 semi candidates.They won both tosses and rightly batted first in both. In the semi they put on a moderate 240 . Let me tell you, if it was India who batted first , I would not have been surprised at all if they won the match.

That is why Stokes' and there by England's case makes it even more deserving I suppose. They batted 2nd and were in deep trouble midway, but Stokes...... no praise is enough for him to lift the team from that situation.

If Stokes & England got the luck of that 'deflection' & 'bizzare rule' NZL got even more luck in the form of winning the toss.

So I think ENG were the deserving winners.

 

[aloo paratha]

All said and done England scored 1 run less. Thanks to Dharmasena they tied the match lol. This will always be a blot. Should have been shared. If NZ had more boundaries, they might have made some last minute change to the rule just like they poached a bowler from a foreign country at the last minute. Not sharing the trophy left a bad taste in mouth.

I can't begin to imagine the level of complaining Morgan, Botham and Hussein would be doing if they were on the receiving end of the boundary rule. New Zealanders really are great people man.

 

[TalhaSyed]

Archer made his first-class debut for Sussex in 2016.

He played 3 T20s for West Indies U-19 in 2014, but they thought he wasn’t good enough and didn’t pick him for the 2014 U-19 World Cup. Barbados also didn’t give him a first-class debut.

That is when he decided to try his luck in England and now he is a World Cup winner.

What you call “last minute” is a process that happened over 3 years.

I think this is what he was talking about...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46382499

I don't have any issue with Archer playing for England....but yes the ECB did change their selection criteria 6 months before the WC to fit Archer in.

 

[shaz619]

Wow looks like I hit a nerve

And please, this is no troll thread at all remotely. All I see is a bunch of envious hypocrites, the fact that everyone has their knickers in a twist like this it makes this win even more enjoyable

Indians

These cowardly bunch can't take it due to the British Empire wielding its sword a million years ago, but this is cricket; you should be more concerned about your mentally week team choking in the semis against a team which was widely regarded as being very poor throughout the tournament. Perhaps you're also upset that you didn't get the result you wanted in the final after wasting so much money

Indians / New Zealanders

There is a difference between the two, don't mistake posters like [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] for being an authentic native; he is an Indian bloke we all know this and he doesn't speak on behalf of his nation, he berated NZ throughout the tournament but it's not going too well for you is it ?

Messi Chokes
Kenny Omega is exposed in North America for being a mid carder despite our friend claiming he is the greatest in-ring performer in history
New Zealand get humiliated just when your hopes got a bit high

Now ask me again, does God exist? I don't think he does for you, he doesn't like you am afraid

Moreover this bloke is very sexist and made deragatory comments about women (not including [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]) in the past, I have evidence to back this up; this also confirms his Indian heritage and subsequent behaviour in the aftermath of a World Cup defeat

Minority of Pakistanis

If Beefy claims he was robbed and you criticise him; what does that make you when you behave just like him?

Moreover you would relish the moment if it was your team that won and not another

British Pakistanis 1st and 2nd gen

Look it's fine who you want to support but don't demonise those who also support England or any other team, after all it leaves a sour taste when you criticise those who do despite claiming fraudulent benefits and then hating on those who do support England because you were not able to stand up to the national front in the 70s and 80s; then using that as an excuse to become taxi drivers

British Pakistanis 3rd gen

I'd say most of you are pretty cool and felt a great deal of pride, honour and ecstasy when Butler took off the bails in the closing moments; if you are born in England then I can't say you are human if you did not feel anything, cricket came home and we won the big one!

The Rest of the Englishman / England fans

Class as always!



England cricket fans are top people and are too dignified; this is why they tolerated your narrow minded and hypocritical views out of pure envy; you get what you give, those who are unable to accept England's World Cup win are nothing but sore/bitter losers and this must reflect in their own realities to be honest.


In the end, no one can say anything that will take away the Gold! and all your bitterness and backwardness could be justified in some alternate universe in the pind! but even then, nothing will change the fact that England ARE WORLD CHAMPIONS!

 

[shaz619]

 

[shaz619]

Stand up for my beloved ENGLAND! THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME! WORLD CHAMPIONS!

STAND UP! STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS!

I am so happy, thank you god and everyone else for this moment; nothing anyone does or says can take away how I felt and continue to feel, thank you Allah! and congrats to all the people who have respect for their British passport and don't take dumps where they eat!

Stand up! STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS!

THE GREATEST MOMENT IN MY CRICKETING LIFE AS A FAN OF THIS GLORIOUS SPORT!

STAND UP! STAND UP! STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS!!!!

 

[ManFan]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] has just completed...

The greatest heel turn in PP History!

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] has just completed...

The greatest heel turn in PP History!

Just how I feel brother

 

[shaz619]

We are England
Super England
No-one likes us
WE DON’T CARE!

We REALLY REALLY DON'T CARE!

 

[shaz619]

Glorious cover inspired by the lightening seeds!

We weren't creative enough and we weren't positive enough! but now WE ARE! WE ARE PIONEERS! WE ARE ENGLAND!

 

[shaz619]

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[shaz619]

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