New Zealand in ICC competitions in the last few years

[Amjid Javed]

50 over WC - lost in final (Stupid boundary count back)
Test championship - winners
T20 - in the final

All 3 achieved if different conditions, fair play to them. (Even though i hope they get smashed in final because of stunt they pulled in pakistan tour earlier this year.)

 

[Technics 1210]

Don’t forget 2015 World Cup - Runners Up

 

[Savak]

NZ is one of those sides who always gets under estimated. They benefit massively from playing quality cricket ofcourse and the lack of hype and expectations as well.

 

[Aman]

Would love to be wrong, but I think there's another defeat coming.

Happy with what the team has achieved this last decade regardless.

Not many expected them to get out of the group, let alone the final.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

GOAT NZ team.
They are in the finals and that too without their best t20i bowler Lockie Ferguson.

 

[IAJ]

That little country, amazing talent! So much like Norway!

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Would love to be wrong, but I think there's another defeat coming.

The problem here is that both the teams playing the 2nd semifinal have always had an upper hand on NZ, specifically in ICC tournaments.

Australia is one team which I am sure no Kiwi wants to face in the finals.
Your best chance is if Pakistan qualifies.

 

[Ab Fan]

2015 WC - Final
2016 WT20- Semi Final, lost to England
2017 CT - Semi Final, lost to Pakistan (?)
2019 WC - Final
2021 WTC - Winner
2021 WT20 - Final

Great consistency. India have got Rohit and Kohli but what is the point when you don't do well in ICC tournament knockouts and lose to inferior sides with less superstars.

 

[Aman]

The problem here is that both the teams playing the 2nd semifinal have always had an upper hand on NZ, specifically in ICC tournaments.

Australia is one team which I am sure no Kiwi wants to face in the finals.
Your best chance is if Pakistan qualifies.

Yeah, Pakistan is probably our best chance of the two.

Aus just own us in world tournaments, the game is lost before we even step onto the field.

 

[asadee]

Also England are over hyped

 

[Cyclotron]

2015 WC - Final
2016 WT20- Semi Final, lost to England
2017 CT - Semi Final, lost to Pakistan (?)
2019 WC - Final
2021 WTC - Winner
2021 WT20 - Final

Great consistency. India have got Rohit and Kohli but what is the point when you don't do well in ICC tournament knockouts and lose to inferior sides with less superstars.

NZ were not in SF of ct2017

 

[JaDed]

Greatest team of this decade!

 

[Manunited18]

Also England are over hyped

Are you serious?

2016 England lost final to freak last over
2019 50 over world champions
2021 semi finals ( missing Archer, stokes, Roy, Sam curran, these guys are top top players)

 

[Manunited18]

Greatest team of this decade!

Yep, kiwis for sure.

 

[Ab Fan]

India have been unfortunately the third best LOI side of this generation, behind England and New Zealand.

In Tests, India have been the best by fair margin though.

 

[Saj]

Mike Atherton "They are through to another World Cup Final, they were close to winning the last World Cup in 2019, they are the World Test Championship winners. Across all formats New Zealand are the strongest team at the moment"

 

[mastimasti]

50 over WC - lost in final (Stupid boundary count back)
Test championship - winners
T20 - in the final

All 3 achieved if different conditions, fair play to them. (Even though i hope they get smashed in final because of stunt they pulled in pakistan tour earlier this year.)

NZ and Pakistan are now both tied at 11 semi finals in ICC events. Australia may be the only team with more.

Remarkable run by this little cricketing gem.

 

[mastimasti]

50 over WC - lost in final (Stupid boundary count back)
Test championship - winners
T20 - in the final

All 3 achieved if different conditions, fair play to them. (Even though i hope they get smashed in final because of stunt they pulled in pakistan tour earlier this year.)

Are you serious?

2016 England lost final to freak last over
2019 50 over world champions
2021 semi finals ( missing Archer, stokes, Roy, Sam curran, these guys are top top players)

Too much is made of the missing players. Stokes is a below average batter in T20s and maybe a handy bowler. Nothing more. Archer only has 12 matches, 14 wickets and averaging 27. Not exactly earth shattering.

Roy is the big miss here.

 

[mikeypbadana86]

50 over WC - lost in final (Stupid boundary count back)
Test championship - winners
T20 - in the final

All 3 achieved if different conditions, fair play to them. (Even though i hope they get smashed in final because of stunt they pulled in pakistan tour earlier this year.)

Newzeland should have won much before the super over...Remember the accidental over throws in the final over?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Newzeland should have won much before the super over...Remember the accidental over throws in the final over?

Yeah indeed they should have, luck and incompetent umpiring and then poor WC rules cost them.

 

[Mahee]

feeling ashamed of Indian team after seeing what NZ have achieved in the past 6 years.

 

[globalcitizen]

2015 WC - Final
2016 WT20- Semi Final, lost to England
2017 CT - Semi Final, lost to Pakistan (?)
2019 WC - Final
2021 WTC - Winner
2021 WT20 - Final

Great consistency. India have got Rohit and Kohli but what is the point when you don't do well in ICC tournament knockouts and lose to inferior sides with less superstars.

NZ have been brilliant but in the end they have also not won the silverware in spite of being in finals

In contrast Indian performance

2015 WC - SF
2016 WT20- SF
2017 CT - Final
2019 WC - SF
2021 WTC - Final

So India have been consistent as well just not able to convert into silverware. Need that x factor player who makes it count on big day

 

[Devadwal]

NZ and Pakistan are now both tied at 11 semi finals in ICC events. Australia may be the only team with more.

Remarkable run by this little cricketing gem.

India already played in 11 semifinals

 

[Devadwal]

Yep, kiwis for sure.

How? Look at india record
2011 - WC winner
2013 - CT winner
2014 - WT20 runner up
2015 - WC semifinals
2016 - WT20 Semi
2017 - CT runner up
2019 - WC Semi
2021 - WTC Final

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

This is the greatest New Zealand team ever, period. Williamson and Boult are among the top 4 cricketers ever from New Zealand - Williamson being the greatest batsman and Boult the 2nd best bowler ever. All time greats.

Ross Taylor, Southee, Wagner, Guptill, Watling are all good players. They also have some pretty decent young players coming up in Conway, Jamieson, Philips, Neesham.

A pretty place to be if you're a New Zealander. They have so much to look forward to in the coming 5-6 years.

 

[Ab Fan]

NZ have been brilliant but in the end they have also not won the silverware in spite of being in finals

In contrast Indian performance

2015 WC - SF
2016 WT20- SF
2017 CT - Final
2019 WC - SF
2021 WTC - Final

So India have been consistent as well just not able to convert into silverware. Need that x factor player who makes it count on big day

Yes but we should have done better with the ATGs that we have. Don't think NZ have got any of the ATG LOI cricketers. Boult is probably closest but inferior to Bumrah. Kane and Guptill are clearly inferior to Kohli and Rohit.

 

[Ab Fan]

India already played in 11 semifinals

You are basically quoting to a guy who generally is known for producing wrong stats and try to pictorise it as a reality so that he could undermine the team that he dislikes. You can't expect sense to prevail from them and it is quite deliberate too.

 

[DHONI183]

Congratulations to all the New Zealand fans out there. A fantastic win, a one-in-a-lifetime little cameo by Neesham. Wow, I´m in total awe of his hitting! I think that one of the keys behind the victory was that steady partnership between Mitchell and Conway. It was very important to have wickets in hand going into the last five overs. Still though, all their hardwork seemed to have been undone by that one Livingstone over, but credit to Neesham for taking over from that point.

It was match of so many moments reminding you of that evening from Lord´s. Bairstow´s fielding effort, where his knee touched the rope to have conceded a six, in particular reminded everyone much of that key moment where Boult´s foot touched the rope - a key moment by all means. There, right there was the hint that luck has changed sides and was on the side of New Zealand yesterday.

 

[Shafi]

Only way NZ can win the tournament by beating Pakistan. We have so many holes in every departments. No way they can beat Australia in final. Australia mentally to tough to break. Plus they are almost perfect in every department.

 

[mastimasti]

This is the greatest New Zealand team ever, period. Williamson and Boult are among the top 4 cricketers ever from New Zealand - Williamson being the greatest batsman and Boult the 2nd best bowler ever. All time greats.

Ross Taylor, Southee, Wagner, Guptill, Watling are all good players. They also have some pretty decent young players coming up in Conway, Jamieson, Philips, Neesham.

A pretty place to be if you're a New Zealander. They have so much to look forward to in the coming 5-6 years.

Look forward to? Or end of an era?

Taylor isn't playing T20s, Wagner is likely out for good too, Guptill has been on a downslope for about 2 years and Watling is retired.

Williamson is only getting worse is the shortest format and both Southee and Boult are the wrong side of 30. Kyle Jamieson looks promising but there isn't a lot else, maybe Sodhi as a spinner but that's hardly NZ strength.

I certainly believe the various teams that have played for NZ overt he last near 10 yeras have been their best ever but I think that era is winding down.

A remarkable WTC trophy under their belts but not a single ICC white ball trophy win, so this really is a win or bust moment for NZ (weirdly enough the next tournament is just a year away and in Aus, so this golden group may get one more shot).

 

[mastimasti]

You are basically quoting to a guy who generally is known for producing wrong stats and try to pictorise it as a reality so that he could undermine the team that he dislikes. You can't expect sense to prevail from them and it is quite deliberate too.

No, this was a stat produced on Sky Sports by Mike Atherton when discussing this tournament and unfortunately I misquoted, it should be: 11 semi finals in ICC world cups. India has 9: 7 in 50 overs and 3 in T20.

 

[sweep_shot]

They have been pretty impressive since 2015 World Cup.

Went to final of 2015 World Cup.
Went to semi-final of 2016 World T20.
Went to final of 2019 World Cup.
Won the WTC.
Went to final of 2021 World T20.

They are now a heavyweight.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

#1 team across formats

 

[transparent opacity]

Another loss in the final. Must be heartbreaking for the kiwis.

Probably the most consistent team of the last decade.

 

[Babeikh]

Don't think they have the x-factor or dynamism to win world tournaments. Will ultimately come short in a crunch game for this reason though they are a decent consistent team, they are pretty dull and boring, other than Williamson who I could watch bat all day.