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New Zealand v Pakistan | 1st Test | Christchurch | Nov 17-21, 2016 | Day 4

Pak batsmen don't understand the situation when they bat. A so-called specialist batsman Asad Shafeeq had no clue what he was doing. Why was Rahat Ali facing more than Yasir when he can't hold the bat. Didn't understand Yasir's arrogant attitude of raised collars


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Familar, pathetic batting

With this batting display Pakistan will surely lose 3-0 in Australia... AGAIN. Misbah's stats will take a big hit

Our batsmen can cope with English conditions but somehow can never do well as a unit on Australian pitches and this time they have been found wanting in NZ as well (where we have not lost a test series for a long time). However preparation was less than ideal with the only warm-up match washed out

Need to take a leaf out of South African book and learn how to bat well in Aussie conditions. They have just won their third successive test series in Australia, some achievement that

http://howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/Series/SeriesStats.asp?SeriesCode=0709

Bowlers did well in the first innings in the circumstances but batsmen have again let the team down

0-1 with one test to play
 
ok im going to sleep

hope its a mircale when i get up and we win somehow or there is heavy rain or sth
 
So...who wanted green tops in Australia?

tbf the team is undercooked

one warm up was not enough to begin with but we didnt have even that. not a single ball

and then the earthquake and associated dramas meant no training for 2 days

also last week was spent indoor training due to rain
 
tbf the team is undercooked

one warm up was not enough to begin with but we didnt have even that. not a single ball

and then the earthquake and associated dramas meant no training for 2 days

also last week was spent indoor training due to rain

Also lost the toss.
 
tbf the team is undercooked

one warm up was not enough to begin with but we didnt have even that. not a single ball

and then the earthquake and associated dramas meant no training for 2 days

also last week was spent indoor training due to rain

I agree with all that but I just don't see our batting hold up on green top vs Australia's seam attack. I feel we'll be better off on flat tracks.
 
If Pakistan batting was positive like Sohail , they would have been defending 200 here instead of 100.
 
Nothing in this pitch since lunch yesterday and our phattu batsman played as if it's headingly on a rainy day.
 
Pakistan have some serious issues , loosing to WI and now Kiwis , Pakistan not really in top 3 in the world.
 
Not happy with our performance. Really got to blame it on the weather and earthquake for making us miss out on that practice match.
 
Pakistan need some radical changes to be made to team and attitude , otherwise the team will slide down the rankings very fast
 
Not happy with our performance. Really got to blame it on the weather and earthquake for making us miss out on that practice match.

Lets see in next game, there on green pitch , Henry will be back , and they will have four fast bowlers.
 
all this (excessive) cricket in the UAE has created a false perception

No doubt about it.

On top of that , Pakistan do not even make rank turners , they are so afraid ? The teams are getting used to UAE pitches. Unless you make rank turners , you will not be able to beat top teams any more soon.
 
We aren't winning this even if kiwis are 50/5, remember last game vs WI, we had them on the mat even though we were defending 150 odd but we still lost that, because when you are defending such a low score even a single partnership of fifty can kill the game. And is amir back to his old ways, haven't seen him bowl many no balls otherwise, and that too such a big no ball, that just doesn't looked right.
 
I wonder why Pakistan not trying guys like Junaid Khan and Sadaf , I think they would be much better than the current bowlers.
 
Amir is good to decent bowler, he is no wasim and never will be, so we shouldn't have unreal expectations from him.
 
And now Waqar... [MENTION=141390]Ellipsism[/MENTION]

Amir hasn't swung it much and you have made that point in several threads. What's the point of repeating it so many times?
 
Amir hasn't swung it much and you have made that point in several threads. What's the point of repeating it so many times?

Yaaaar sab meray peechay kyun paray hain? The guy targeted me you should ask him... I was quoted here first
 
We aren't winning this even if kiwis are 50/5, remember last game vs WI, we had them on the mat even though we were defending 150 odd but we still lost that, because when you are defending such a low score even a single partnership of fifty can kill the game. And is amir back to his old ways, haven't seen him bowl many no balls otherwise, and that too such a big no ball, that just doesn't looked right.

Let's not start doubting players without any proof.
 
The guy targeted me you should ask him... I was quoted here first

Apologies. I didn't follow the entire thread. I just recall you making the same point many times yesterday and that's why I commented.
 
Pakistan required at least 250 to challenge Kiwis here , the pitch does not have any demons.
 
1 test Match lost, due to lack of preparation, not playing any form of practice game in difficult conditions. Please guys give these guys a BREAK. Playing non-stop cricket since England tour. First day toss lost and then only getting 133. Was the reason behind our lost and then batting so defensively in 2nd inning. I mean who ever gave them this advice should be questioned and be investigated, how can you bat like this. I mean 28 overs and only scored 40 odd runs.🙄.

Hopefully we will keep our not losing streak against newzealand in the next test. Should have been 3 match series.
 
If Pak looses this series, than Misbah is likely to loose the last two series of his career.I don;t think PCB will ask him to continue after that!
 
Pakistan required at least 250 to challenge Kiwis here , the pitch does not have any demons.

It didn't have any demons when Pakistan batted 2nd time as well. It was negative cricket by Pakistan which resulted in around 100 runs in 60 overs of batting. Seeing off new ball is a good strategy, but you can't be doing that with 50 overs old ball otherwise 2nd new ball will come very soon.
 
If Pak looses this series, than Misbah is likely to loose the last two series of his career.I don;t think PCB will ask him to continue after that!

They shouldn't. Let Azhar Ali lead the team so we can have either harris sohail or umar akmal instead of him. Team is well build for the future, Misbah need to go.
 
I think it was like 63rd over with 105 runs. 1.6 runs per over.

Pakistan should take a gamble and Play Sharjeel instead of Sami Aslam in next test. Just to see how he does. Because both openers are quite defensive batsmen, now days an age, cricket is about being positive and aggressive. Sami aslam 20 odds in 70 balls is good on flat tracks. I am sure kiwis will like another Green top for next game.
 
He should and thats my opinion, the guy missed out on a 5'fer coz Hero Honda 70mph couldn't swing the ball..
My opinion is that Rahat is too expensive to bowl with the new ball. He will get the other team off to a good start.
 
Pakistan should take a gamble and Play Sharjeel instead of Sami Aslam in next test. Just to see how he does. Because both openers are quite defensive batsmen, now days an age, cricket is about being positive and aggressive. Sami aslam 20 odds in 70 balls is good on flat tracks. I am sure kiwis will like another Green top for next game.

I won't blame any one batsman, because it looked like a team strategy to me to just survive and bat overs.
 
It didn't have any demons when Pakistan batted 2nd time as well. It was negative cricket by Pakistan which resulted in around 100 runs in 60 overs of batting. Seeing off new ball is a good strategy, but you can't be doing that with 50 overs old ball otherwise 2nd new ball will come very soon.

I agree , Pakistan slow batting is harming in OD , and now will do in Test also.
 
Next Game. Playing 11 should be these.

Sharjeel
Azhar
Younis
Misbah
Babar
Asad
Rizwan
Wahab
Imran/ Yasir if its flat track.
Amir
Sohail
 
Look at how Williamson is batting in chase , can we see Azhar , Asad , sami et ever bat like that ? We know it will not happen , whether they play 10 or 100 tests.
 
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