New Zealand v Pakistan | 2nd Test | Hamilton | Nov 25-29, 2016 | Day 2

[Buffet]

Didn't follow the England series, but how on earth did you win 2 games there when you're so woeful here?

Southee, Boult, Henry and Colin are no where near as threatening as Anderson, Broad, Stokes, Moeen and Woakes.

There wasn't much sideways movement in Eng. If Pakistan had played earlier in year then it would have swung more.

 

[Aman]

Colin getting a few before stumps will infuriate many Pakistani fans

 

[Indiafan]

So you are coming to Australia after three consecutive defeats and still you won't pick Mohammad Asif or Salman Butt, who both have good records here? Nice!

Pak lost the series with Salman in the team

 

[Abdul]

YK was a borderline ATG, these next two series will probably shut down those discussion quickly though.

It's criminal to mention Younis Khan's name alongside other legends like Tendulkar or Ponting etc., his fans have done it countless times before. The reactions will be quite hilarious after the Australian tour.

 

[Aman]

There wasn't much sideways movement in Eng. If Pakistan had played earlier in year then it would have swung more.

Still surprising that England dropped two games to Pakistan on flat wickets, with their deep batting line up, they should beat most sides on flat wickets.. Seriously overrated are England..

 

[Buffet]

Still surprising that England dropped two games to Pakistan on a flat wicket, with there deep batting line up, they should beat most sides on flat wickets.. Seriously overrated are England..

Eng is poor against spin. First test was all due to Yasir.

Eng got lucky with toss in 3rd test in India today. Hopefully they win the game otherwise they are not going to anything in this series. Pitch will be very hard to bat from day 2.

 

[fast1975]

Didn't follow the England series, but how on earth did you win 2 games there when you're so woeful here?

Southee, Boult, Henry and Colin are no where near as threatening as Anderson, Broad, Stokes, Moeen and Woakes.

dear..the difference is wickets.

pak batters have always done well in England. zaheer abba, javed miandad, majid, mohammad yousaf, younis khan, azhar ali, majid all of them have scored big in england. the wickets in england have some swing but they are not harder and bouncy

pakistani batters have worst record in south africa and austrlia where you have more bounce

in nz, conditions are bit similar to england but a bit more bouncy and we are getting exposed

this team will be exposed big time in aus. we lost 3-0 to south africa as well few years ago

 

[Justcrazy]

It's criminal to mention Younis Khan's name alongside other legends like Tendulkar or Ponting etc., his fans have done it countless times before. The reactions will be quite hilarious after the Australian tour.

Tendulkar , Pointing , Lara were different level batsmen , Younis is not close to that. Let alone be on par

 

[street cricketer]

Don't believe whatever [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] says guys..

He may look like he's an ultra pessimist but he is in reality, a master jinxer!

 

[Justcrazy]

dear..the difference is wickets.

pak batters have always done well in England. zaheer abba, javed miandad, majid, mohammad yousaf, younis khan, azhar ali, majid all of them have scored big in england. the wickets in england have some swing but they are not harder and bouncy

pakistani batters have worst record in south africa and austrlia where you have more bounce

in nz, conditions are bit similar to england but a bit more bouncy and we are getting exposed

this team will be exposed big time in aus. we lost 3-0 to south africa as well few years ago

Also , Pakistan do not have the bowling like in Past to bail them out in NZ. If you look at all NZ tours , bowling has bailed them out.

 

[jeetu]

New Zealand 271
Pakistan 27/3 (13.2 ov)
Pakistan trail by 244 runs with 7 wickets remaining in the 1st innings
Babar Azam 7 (25)
Asad Shafiq 10 (13)

 

[Zak_Fan]

No Boult?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Shafiq missed out twice in that over

 

[Justcrazy]

is statistically worst phase of his carer , this is first time he has scored less than 10 in 4 consecutive innings

 

[fast1975]

Also , Pakistan do not have the bowling like in Past to bail them out in NZ. If you look at all NZ tours , bowling has bailed them out.

that is a very good point....wasim and waqar bailed us out in NZ big time several times...sometimes they didnt let kiwis chase even 120 odd runs both in ODis and test matches

now we have rahats, wahabs, sohails, imrans.....

 

[marlonbrowndo]

No Boult?

Injured

 

[Aman]

No Boult?

injured.

 

[jeetu]

dear..the difference is wickets.

pak batters have always done well in England. zaheer abba, javed miandad, majid, mohammad yousaf, younis khan, azhar ali, majid all of them have scored big in england. the wickets in england have some swing but they are not harder and bouncy

pakistani batters have worst record in south africa and austrlia where you have more bounce

in nz, conditions are bit similar to england but a bit more bouncy and we are getting exposed

this team will be exposed big time in aus. we lost 3-0 to south africa as well few years ago

They played County cricket , which gave them familiarity to those conditions.

 

[Justcrazy]

Babaar looking positive.

Pakistan need rest of batters to show determination , to make a match out of this.

 

[fast1975]

They played County cricket , which gave them familiarity to those conditions.

fair point but but not really...surprisingly, salim malik, saeed anwar, mohammad yousaf, younis khan, azhar ali, inzi, never had any long stints (if any) with county cricket but they did well in england. yousaf scored so many runs in england that it broke many records. younis has also scored 2 big centuries there. salim malik was pretty successful as well especialy in that famous 1987 series

but all of these batters and legens before them did pathetic in aus and south africa

 

[Buffet]

fair point but but not really...surprisingly, salim malik, saeed anwar, mohammad yousaf, younis khan, azhar ali, inzi, never had any long stints (if any) with county cricket but they did well in england. yousaf scored so many runs in england that it broke many records. younis has also scored 2 big centuries there. salim malik was pretty successful as well especialy in that famous 1987 series

but all of these batters and legens before them did pathetic in aus and south africa

It's not just the pitch, pace attack of SA and Aus have been superior to Eng in most years. Agree that extra bounce is a huge factor.

 

[Shafi]

38 more to avoid follow on!!!!

 

[sajeebmcj]

Still surprising that England dropped two games to Pakistan on flat wickets, with their deep batting line up, they should beat most sides on flat wickets.. Seriously overrated are England..

England's fielding was pathetic. they dropped more cathes than pakistan. besides pakistan was offered flatter pitch.

 

[Aman]

Shafiq dropped.

 

[aukhan]

 

[Shafi]

We really need to find 2 solid openers. Azhar is not good enough to open unless its UAE and flat pitch. Sami unfortunately worse than Hafeez both by batting and catching

 

[aukhan]

shot shafiq

 

[aukhan]

Four again

 

[Buffet]

When you play positively then pitch looks pretty good to bat. That's why I said there is no demon in this pitch.

 

[world cup captain]

"Keep bowing there mate" Waqar in an attempted Aussie accent

 

[Shafi]

25 more to avoid follow on. Hope we make it

 

[Buffet]

25 more to avoid follow on. Hope we make it

You will make it for sure. It's not relevant though. NZ will not enforce follow on anyway.

 

[Justcrazy]

35 runs partnership so far, need to continue

 

[Aman]

You will make it for sure. It's not relevant though. NZ will not enforce follow on anyway.

Just curious, why aren't you watching the SA-Aus match?

 

[street cricketer]

Ma man Shafiq answering them haters in style! [MENTION=21215]srh[/MENTION] [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION]

 

[Aman]

Ma man Shafiq answering them haters in style! [MENTION=21215]srh[/MENTION] [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION]

Already dropped once lol

 

[Justcrazy]

Wagner introduced now.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Just saw scorecard

Azhar 1(18) SR 5.5555

 

[Aman]

Babar and Shafiq batting well.

 

[Aman]

Should have Wagner attack both of them with the short ball.

 

[QalandarFan]

Keep playing like this Babar

Fifty for Pakistan!

 

[Buffet]

Just curious, why aren't you watching the SA-Aus match?

I am watching all three matches. Switching it time to time, but mostly watching NZ one because ball is doing something. Wicket can go in any ball.

 

[Justcrazy]

Fifty up for Pakistan

 

[Aman]

I am watching all three matches. Switching it time to time, but mostly watching NZ one because ball is doing something. Wicket can go in any ball.

Another gift

 

[badsha001]

that luck though...

 

[QalandarFan]

Just as I was about to write the current partnership Shafiq gets bowled!

 

[Saeed]

Wth 3 out and that too on this wicket? Hard to take lead now.

 

[Justcrazy]

four down

 

[QalandarFan]

Hope Rizwan can show some spine and bat decently.

 

[Ellipsism]

Good game NZ, would like to congratulate late on your win.

The demise of our test team is sad.

 

[Aman]

Rizwan out )

 

[Buffet]

Another gift

It has been very poor batting from Pakistan in this series so far.

 

[Belawal2014]

Just before stumps...not good...

 

[Aman]

Hope Rizwan can show some spine and bat decently.

Epic jinx bhai )

Golden duck on debut.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Pathetic

 

[QalandarFan]

First ball duck on Debut What is this!!!

 

[Ellipsism]

What a legend...

 

[Aman]

It has been very poor batting from Pakistan in this series so far.

Not one to complain about them.

Happily will accept the easy ranking points

 

[QalandarFan]

How in the world are we 51/5 on a pitch that has no demons in it, to many wickets gave away.

 

[badsha001]

actually he went for his shots, not a bad approach. need to learn how to hook those for sixes...

 

[Aman]

Wagner 2/0 and on a hat-trick.

 

[fast1975]

asad gone...............that was last hope for something big

curtains are on now.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Who gets caught in the deep on the first ball of his Test career?

 

[Ellipsism]

I've lost all hope in this test team, utter rubbish.

 

[Justcrazy]

Duck for Rizwan

 

[shah_1]

Shambolic batting

it's going to be a 5-0

 

[marlonbrowndo]

actually he went for his shots, not a bad approach. need to learn how to hook those for sixes...

Lol and then there's people like this

 

[Aman]

actually he went for his shots, not a bad approach. need to learn how to hook those for sixes...

Team in trouble and no sighter..

 

[fast1975]

actually he went for his shots, not a bad approach. need to learn how to hook those for sixes...

really?
your team is 51 for 4...you are on test debut. and you play a hook shot knowing there is a fielder here

i say it is pathetic and senseless cricket

 

[Justcrazy]

First ball in test carer , look at what Rizwan does. What an immature batting sense.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Team in trouble and no sighter..

That post wasn't even worth replying to

 

[QalandarFan]

Yes Babar that's the way to play, the only decent batsman in the team.

 

[Aman]

Should bounce Babar out.

 

[Mir jibran]

for god's sake atleast score 250 runs

 

[QalandarFan]

I can't believe we're giving a bowler like Wagner so many wickets. What a shame.

 

[jeetu]

Pakistan 57/5 (21.3 ov)
Sarfraz Ahmed (rhb) 1
Babar Azam (rhb) 23

 

[shah_1]

We got pitches in England with no real pace, bounce and swing and now we're exposed.

 

[Speedster777]

Babar has solid defence. Asad Shafiq has the technique as well but lacks confidence and succumbs under pressure.

 

[QalandarFan]

Asad really needs to start converting these little starts into big scores. He always looks good when at the crease but falls out of no where.

 

[shah_1]

I can't believe we're giving a bowler like Wagner so many wickets. What a shame.

He is a very good bowler, better than all of ours.