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New Zealand vs Pakistan | 5th ODI | Wellington | Jan 19, 2018 | Pakistan innings

Well, considering Hafeez plays for Pakistan, regardless of the conditions and oppositions, for him to average mid 40s for a period of time was fantastic (by Pak batting standards). Now, it's plummeted to 32 and even by Pak standards that's unacceptable.

Yes good enough against bottom ranked teams
 
Sarfraz isn't Misbah, incase people are wondering... he doesn't bore the sides to death or contain a collapse. He will pretty much get out in this fashion when half the side is gone already/
 
We need to find better batsman than Babar who can play sensibly anywhere in the world. babar is just not good enough. He failed miserably in tests so he is not a test batsman and failed in NZ as well.Just need to get rid of this timid batsman.

Same with Amir as bowling version of Babar. Defensive and lack of wicket taking abilities. Shaheen Shah should replace him.
 
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Where you at?
 
Naturally a 15 year veteran has done his job in this series

I think he exceeded expectations... I thought this was the tournament we were gonna chuck him out for good, its been the others who are the problem here with all due respect.

Some big names have failed : 1)Mr. World no.5 average of 56, 2) King of Not outs Averaging 56 and 66 in his past 2 years 3)AA- best test match opener in the world 4)Mr. Oxygen to the team who has had too much CO2 lately.
 
One of the worst preformance ever by PCT touring New Zealand

This is a 3rd time in history Pakistan is getting whitewashed in a 5 ODI series
 
This Ferguson is a Newzealand Umesh Yadav/Wahab Riaz rolled into one....Pakistani batsmen have made him look like the second coming of Malcolm Marshall
 
One of the worst preformance ever by PCT touring New Zealand

This is a 3rd time in history Pakistan is getting whitewashed in a 5 ODI series
Would have gone home with a few world and team records had Kane not showed some mercy.
 
Haris should be permanent no.3/4

Absorbs pressure really well and is just classy to watch
 
I think he exceeded expectations... I thought this was the tournament we were gonna chuck him out for good, its been the others who are the problem here with all due respect.

Some big names have failed : 1)Mr. World no.5 average of 56, 2) King of Not outs Averaging 56 and 66 in his past 2 years 3)AA- best test match opener in the world 4)Mr. Oxygen to the team who has had too much CO2 lately.
Seems like you have lots of grudge against him. If he plays like that he deserve to be drop but no point to bring back Misbah or keep Hafeez, Malik and Azhar for another 10 years
 
I think he exceeded expectations... I thought this was the tournament we were gonna chuck him out for good, its been the others who are the problem here with all due respect.

Some big names have failed : 1)Mr. World no.5 average of 56, 2) King of Not outs Averaging 56 and 66 in his past 2 years 3)AA- best test match opener in the world 4)Mr. Oxygen to the team who has had too much CO2 lately.

Should be that difficult really 15 years of failure > any number less than 15
 
Babar weakness against pacecand bounce is big worry, should he be batting at no 3??

Harris(like in test as well), is much more at ease with new ball of pace and bounce, if we are never going to open with him. Should he come at no 3 and Babar pushed to no 4 when things have eased out a bit. There is no point of scoring only in Asia. That’s classic Hafeez and Malik (and killing others) template, we don’t need more of such players
 
I think he exceeded expectations... I thought this was the tournament we were gonna chuck him out for good, its been the others who are the problem here with all due respect.

Some big names have failed : 1)Mr. World no.5 average of 56, 2) King of Not outs Averaging 56 and 66 in his past 2 years 3)AA- best test match opener in the world 4)Mr. Oxygen to the team who has had too much CO2 lately.

How many tournaments Misbah won? None~!!!!! Sarfraz atleast better than him in less than a year.
 
Hopefully we will kick out one of senior Azhar/Malik/Hafeez, consistent non-perform like Amir and worning to Babar Azam play or get kick out.
 
How many tournaments Misbah won? None~!!!!! Sarfraz atleast better than him in less than a year.

Lol get over it dude....Yeah maybe beating India was a big deal in a ICC
tournament final for you guys but CT is not such a big thing really.

Within 1-2 years of winning the 2011 WC,we got rid of more than half our team which was a bigger deal.

Misbah the cricketer and Sarfaraz the cricketer apples to apples,no comparison really.
 
Haris once again slowing down close the 50 delivery mark. The one thing about him that bothers me.
 
I am a big fan of Kaka (Rajesh Khanna) - was listening one of his master class -

.......... Majdhar me jaab naiya dole to Mazhi paar lagaye,.....
Mazhiiiii jaab nao duboye to, unse kon bachaye ..?
Chingari Koi ..........

Do you like the song?

Great Kishore da
 
Looks like Harris has given up

Playing for himself, extremly selfish batting.
 
What bothers me the most about this ODI Series is that, not even once, we have put fear of losing an ODI in this NZ Team !!!!!! Pathetic !!!!!
 
I will give him few series before judging but he should not be in T20 squad.

Then, how can he motivate his team. It's cricket, where Captain is leader, not cheerleader. In any other sports, you can hide your Captain (no body knows who is NBA winning Captain of that Bulls team), in some sports there are non playing Captains - not in Cricket. And, this guy is handling 3 key roles with ZERO output - don't make that CT win a curse for PAK cricket.
 
Inzamam needs to be warned as well for selecting team based on favoritism and nepotism. Imam should not be near to our ODI team+useless seniors+non-performers
 
Good partnership, but need to up the momentum now. Preferably Shadab needs to accelerate the run rate with some boundaries and Faheem can come in next.
 
Then, how can he motivate his team. It's cricket, where Captain is leader, not cheerleader. In any other sports, you can hide your Captain (no body knows who is NBA winning Captain of that Bulls team), in some sports there are non playing Captains - not in Cricket. And, this guy is handling 3 key roles with ZERO output - don't make that CT win a curse for PAK cricket.

Becauyse at atleast he did good job changing bowling. He needs to fix his batting as well
 
Need to score at the rate of 6 from now on and accelerate later on.
 
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Becauyse at atleast he did good job changing bowling. He needs to fix his batting as well

What change in bowling man?

Bowling 50th over with Yamin? Bowling 2 overs less by Amir? Giving him 5 overs at start, then bring in for 2nd spell in 45th over? Giving Malik overs in 42nd over with pacers under bowled? Opening with Raees?

Be fair to everyone - Misbah had been chopped in pieces because of his use of bowlers.
 
Have they given up on chasing the total?

Just batting the overs out at this point?!
 
What bothers me the most about this ODI Series is that, not even once, we have put fear of losing an ODI in this NZ Team !!!!!! Pathetic !!!!!

To be fair we were pretty close last ODI when we had NZ 99-4 and 154-5 with still 100-150+ runs to chase.

Other than that though you're absolutely right.
 
Becauyse at atleast he did good job changing bowling. He needs to fix his batting as well

Don't get upset - every piece of cake for CT win is going to Sarfraz's plate but same people are not ready to attend the other side of the party.
 
How many tournaments Misbah won? None~!!!!! Sarfraz atleast better than him in less than a year.

Sarfraz may have won you a world tournament and credit to him, but he has shown that a bad situation when out of hand is actually no way back. Misbah has sort of acted as a fail safe and stabilized in times of crisis. Sarfraz lacks that ability. Both abilities have different uses, Sarf has shown he doesn't have the mental capacity to mount a fight back when the chips are down
 
Need almost 8 runs/over !!!!!

Possible, if these 2 can take it to say 214/5 in 45 overs - it's possible to hit 58 in 30 balls here with 2 set batsmen. Kiwi attack is very good with new ball, but not so with old one.
 
Should be that difficult really 15 years of failure > any number less than 15

Well the point is despite everyone calling him a failure he manages to fight on. I am all for chucking him out, but on a tough NZ tour he was the only one who stool tall. Its not much, and I am not tryiing to overrate his performance, it was a decent output from a 38 year old on his last legs, its the others who have well and truly come really short.
 
Hats off to shadab what a superstar in the making shame on all the useless top order and middle order batsmen
 
Make Shadab Captain for LO team - and I am not joking. Kid has nerves of steel.
 
Seems like you have lots of grudge against him. If he plays like that he deserve to be drop but no point to bring back Misbah or keep Hafeez, Malik and Azhar for another 10 years

Agreed. Team needs a hard task master. Virat Kohli benched Bhuvi despite him picking up 4 wickets against SA in the first innings. Maybe a little jolt here and there won't hurt
 
Well the point is despite everyone calling him a failure he manages to fight on. I am all for chucking him out, but on a tough NZ tour he was the only one who stool tall. Its not much, and I am not tryiing to overrate his performance, it was a decent output from a 38 year old on his last legs, its the others who have well and truly come really short.

no. thats not how it works. you dont play rubbish batsmen forever, because they are better than batsman who have only played a couple of seasons
 
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