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Next generation battle - Babar Azam vs Shreyas Iyer

These comparison threads are being started to see where they are in 2 years time. Invariably they are not reaching the same level.
 
There is no player currently in the same generation of players who is of the quality of Babar Azam.

But there could be good contest in the coming years between Babar and Rabada (bowler vs batsman), both are the best of their age group and are one of the best in the world.
 
Both are great batsmen.

I’m impressed by what I’ve seen of Iyer today.
 
So Iyer scoring the most useless runs against West Indies of all teams makes him equal to Babar? Jeez... I so wish my countrymen not act like the trolls they are :rabada
 
In Vijay Hazare Trophy 2018 (50 overs):
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
SS Iyer 7 6 2 373 144 93.25 344 108.43 2 2 0 24 22
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In the recently-concluded Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy (T20), he amassed 484 runs at an average of 60.5 and a very impressive strike-rate of 152.50. During the course of the tournament, he also scored two centuries including a 55-ball 147 against Sikkim which is the highest score by an Indian in the shortest format of the game.
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Ridiculous that this guy didn't get a decent run last year and yet guys like Rayudu and Karthik did.
 
Iyer can become future Indian captain... on the other hand Babar is not captaincy materiel..
 
Someone said:
Iyer can become future Indian captain... on the other hand Babar is not captaincy materiel..
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Yes meaning Iyer is the better player. Just as Mashrafe Mortaza was the better player compared to Dale Steyn because he was captaincy material. Also I believe Imad Wasim is also captaincy material hence Imad > Stokes. Almost forgot wasn't Denesh Ramdin captain of Windies? Hence Ramdin > Bairstow as well. Oh and the biggest specialist captain of them all Sarfraz Ahmed > Quinton De Kock and any other wicket keeper batsman that has laced up a pair of boots.

So in conclusion if you are not a captaincy candidate you should retire from cricket. Dale Steyn should of never taken 400+ test wickets knew right from the outset he was never going to captain, also guys like Bairstow and Stokes who aren't going to become captain should retire before it's to late. :jk
 
cricketjoshila said:
Iyer has some way to go before he can be can be compared to anyone.
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Good to see you admitting this. Iyer can score lots of soft runs but will never be able to match Babar in technique or grace. Essentially their ceilings are way different. Iyer would have done well to score 10 centuries by the end of his career. Babar's ceiling is 40 centuries.
 
Ram Shekhar said:
Good to see you admitting this. Iyer can score lots of soft runs but will never be able to match Babar in technique or grace. Essentially their ceilings are way different. Iyer would have done well to score 10 centuries by the end of his career. Babar's ceiling is 40 centuries.
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Well presently Babar ìs ahead. Doesnot mean Iyer cant get past him.
 
Someone said:
Iyer keeps improving with every innings..
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Can only laugh at this comparison. Iyer is the same age as Babar and has achieved zilch and isn’t equally good against spin and pace. Bit late on the ball against genuine pace.

Today’s attacked consisted of mithun, biplol, Mustafiz and al Amin. Hasn’t played any top opposition or at least an innings of note.
 
zain7077 said:
Can only laugh at this comparison. Iyer is the same age as Babar and has achieved zilch and isn’t equally good against spin and pace. Bit late on the ball against genuine pace.

Today’s attacked consisted of mithun, biplol, Mustafiz and al Amin. Hasn’t played any top opposition or at least an innings of note.
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Well at least he can change gears when required.. cant say same about Babar..
 
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Well at least he can change gears when required.. cant say same about Babar..
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Let’s see if he can survive a quality spell of fast bowling. Plz don’t forget Babar is the no.1 t20 batter in the world. The guy averages 50 at 127
 
No point of comparing at this moment.
In 90's every new batsman from used to compare with Sachin... This thread reminds me those days.

Babar is settled in all formats where as Shreyas Iyer yet to get place in test team, there are so many youngsters are competing for test spot like Shubman Gill,Prudhvi sha etc etc .

Shreyas Iyer looks so good, he playing responsible and mature innings whenever opportunity arises.
 
Babar is the main batsman for Pakistan but like how kohli is to India. Iyer is still trying to own his place.
 
Iyer is an impact player, a big hitter and a potential finisher , not fair to compare him with a top order accumulator. Babar will always have better stats while Iyer probably will always have much bigger impact on the game.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Iyer is an impact player, a big hitter and a potential finisher , not fair to compare him with a top order accumulator. Babar will always have better stats while Iyer probably will always have much bigger impact on the game.
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Yes every player of India has more impact over Babar Azam. Seems like Afridi was more impact player then all the Indian time in his days then. As in your laws average don't matter its impact
 
Iyer most likely will never play tests. I just want Iyer to be Iyer not Dhoni or anyone else. This comparison is a non-starter as they play completely different role.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Iyer is an impact player, a big hitter and a potential finisher , not fair to compare him with a top order accumulator. Babar will always have better stats while Iyer probably will always have much bigger impact on the game.
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But In Indian set up we have to compare him with Indian players not Pakistan players. The role is different for them. Iyer has to set his standards higher even to survive. Rohit, Kohli.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
But In Indian set up we have to compare him with Indian players not Pakistan players. The role is different for them. Iyer has to set his standards higher even to survive. Rohit, Kohli.
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I agree which is why I said this isn't a fair comparison in the first place. I was really delighted to see Iyer raising his game like this, literally a few days ago I had huge doubts over his hitting ability against fast bowlers, now I don't. Really impressive stuff.
 
KingKhan12 said:
Yes every player of India has more impact over Babar Azam. Seems like Afridi was more impact player then all the Indian time in his days then. As in your laws average don't matter its impact
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I rate Afridi as a bowling all-rounder, a genuine match winner on his day, but comparing him with batsmen doesn't make any sense at all.
 
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Hyperion66 said:
I rate Afridi as a bowling all-rounder, a genuine match winner on his day, but comparing him with batsmen doesn't make any sense at all.
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No one can match your Indian batsmens they are the most impact batsmens and Babar Azam can't reach their leven of impact. Happy now
 
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KingKhan12 said:
No one can match your Indian batsmens they are the most impact batsmens and Babar Azam can't reach their leven of impact.
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Babar is just another good batsman who is being incredibly overhyped here due to you having an extremely poor batting standard. You guys were convinced about Shezad and Akmal being world beaters not so long ago after all. The threads are still fresh but the memories seem to be lost in most.
 
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Hyperion66 said:
Babar is just another good batsman who is being incredibly overhyped here due to you having an extremely poor batting standard. You guys were convinced about Shezad and Akmal being world beaters not so long ago after all. The threads are still fresh but the memories seem to be lost in most.
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The problem with u is u are always undermining Babar Azam. impact player is joke Fakhar zaman is impact player so he is better then All other batters and All others are just good batsman's and not impact player .
APART FROM KOHLI ALL GUYS ARE JUST GOOD BATSMAN'S EVEN STEVE SMITH His average is going to drop to 54-55ish in upcoming years no one can match KOHLI but Babar is surely going to pass Williamson and root in every format already ahead in both T20 and odi
 
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Hyperion66 said:
Babar is just another good batsman who is being incredibly overhyped here due to you having an extremely poor batting standard. You guys were convinced about Shezad and Akmal being world beaters not so long ago after all. The threads are still fresh but the memories seem to be lost in most.
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No one has hyped Babar to the extent to say he's better then Kohli or Smith who are way ahead. But he has been batting brilliant for some years now in every format. He needs to keep being more consistent in tests and get big runs in tests though. How is stating the facts hyping someone. Shehzad and Akmal stats and batting was never as consistent and good as Babar. Whole cricketing world is taking note of Babar Azam and praising him and saying he's one of the best batsmen around.

And few posters making silly threads don't mean all us hype everyone. You will see more Pakistani fans hate Akmal and Shehzad then like them. I can pull out many threads of some Indians making silly threads and hyping Indian players.

I know you don't like Babar but give the trolling a break. Babar has impacted many games he is the reason we are number 1 in T20s and he has a different role to bat through in T20s and even ODIs as we don't have any other batsmen who can score big or bat long consistently.

But for you every Indian player is more impact player then Babar so in that case Afridi was more impact player then whole Indian team (that's by your logic).

Anyways keep going on with the hate and trolling as we all know you won't stop but it makes no difference to Babar. Some Indian haters and keyboard warriors on a forum not going to undermine him on the cricketing stage.
 
Mujtaba2900 said:
The problem with u is u are always undermining Babar Azam. impact player is joke Fakhar zaman is impact player so he is better then All other batters and All others are just good batsman's and not impact player .
APART FROM KOHLI ALL GUYS ARE JUST GOOD BATSMAN'S EVEN STEVE SMITH His average is going to drop to 54-55ish in upcoming years no one can match KOHLI but Babar is surely going to pass Williamson and root in every format already ahead in both T20 and odi
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You misunderstood me, I rate Babar pretty accurately just refuse to overrate him unlike most posters here. He hasn't done anything special to be considered one of the best bats in the world. I don't own a crystal ball so no idea about future but at present Babar is yet to do something concrete to be regarded as among the best bats. You seem like a nice poster, you can list out Babar's achievements and I will be glad to refute your points.
 
Hyperion66 said:
You misunderstood me, I rate Babar pretty accurately just refuse to overrate him unlike most posters here. He hasn't done anything special to be considered one of the best bats in the world. I don't own a crystal ball so no idea about future but at present Babar is yet to do something concrete to be regarded as among the best bats. You seem like a nice poster, you can list out Babar's achievements and I will be glad to refute your points.
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So only you rate him accurately and the cricket experts and everyone don't know nothing. You been saying all along with your trolling that he has no impact compare to Indian players which is not true and shows your bias and trolling.

Yes your right he's done nothing to be considered one of bests. Guy has a 54 average in ODIs after 74 games with 87 strike rate and 48 average in T20s. Please compare that to your so called best batsmens or who you consider better then him. Was top scorer in the T20 blast in England but he not impact player lol.
Reason why all cricket experts consider him one of best already. And it's not easy he has to carry the Pakistan batting.


Babar just needs to bat consistently in Tests and get big runs which he has been doing since a year or 2 now. But still not a bad average of 42 in Tests despite a poor start to test cricket.
 
Shreyas Iyer scored a brilliant 100 today.. I think this comparison is more fair than Babar vs Rahul.. Iyer and Babar is in same age bracket and playing same middle order role.
 
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This is a terrible comparison. Babar is a proper batsmen, Shreyas Iyer is just a batting track bully, the minute there is bounce and movement he is a shooting duck... When Iyer scored the 100 today, I instantly knew the wicket was flat and easy to bat on and had a gut feeling NZ would win, and it happened...
 
While he is still a massive upgrade over the likes of Rayudus, Karthiks etc, still not sold over him.

He still bats way too slowly especially in current day & age where the other teams have finishers like Taylor, Butlers, Maxwell etc....
 
He bats well for any one's liking. 51 off 69 balls and ends up with 103 off 107.
 
Romali_rotti said:
This is a terrible comparison. Babar is a proper batsmen, Shreyas Iyer is just a batting track bully, the minute there is bounce and movement he is a shooting duck... When Iyer scored the 100 today, I instantly knew the wicket was flat and easy to bat on and had a gut feeling NZ would win, and it happened...
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Iyer was dropped 3 times also
 
Iyer need to take India to defendable score today without Kohli , Rohit and Dhawan.. lets see how he handles that..
 
Comparing pakistan's best talent and player with random indian talent. Shows pak & india's standards.
 
Comparing these two is similar to comparing Kohli vs Babar. Day and night difference between both at this current stage.
 
Very similar players and probably at the same level. Iyer might be a tad more versatile.

It just goes to show the vast difference between the two sides when it comes expectations and pedigree.

Iyer would be an absolute star in Pakistan already, but in India, he is in the shadow of Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan and Rahul, and pretty soon Shaw and Gill as well.

Take a look at Agarwal as well. He was scoring double hundreds against South Africa for fun, but you would hardly see any hype for him.

In Pakistan, a batsman who gets a hundred against Sri Lanka or Bangladesh B turns into a national hero overnight.

That is why, you always have to be cautious when comparing Indian and Pakistani batsmen.

A great Pakistani batsman is a good batsman for Indian batting standards, but a good Indian batsman is an extraordinary batsman for Pakistani batting standards.
 
Underrated player, doesn't get the hype as he plays for an elite team. If he had played for any other Asian team, he would have been compared with Virat Kohli straightaway.
 
Mamoon said:
Very similar players and probably at the same level. Iyer might be a tad more versatile.

It just goes to show the vast difference between the two sides when it comes expectations and pedigree.

Iyer would be an absolute star in Pakistan already, but in India, he is in the shadow of Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan and Rahul, and pretty soon Shaw and Gill as well.

Take a look at Agarwal as well. He was scoring double hundreds against South Africa for fun, but you would hardly see any hype for him.

In Pakistan, a batsman who gets a hundred against Sri Lanka or Bangladesh B turns into a national hero overnight.

That is why, you always have to be cautious when comparing Indian and Pakistani batsmen.

A great Pakistani batsman is a good batsman for Indian batting standards, but a good Indian batsman is an extraordinary batsman for Pakistani batting standards.
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If Iyer is very similar to Babar they should quickly play him in Tests as Babar is currently better ranked than every indian batsman bar one. So he can replace all others...
 
I would take Babar right now. Iyer will be a very good player for India. He is more suited to batting in the top 3 but is doing an excellent job at 4. A sign of a top player for me is performing outside their comfort zone.
 
Babar wipes the floor with this Iyer guy in all conditions and all places in the world. Indians are extremely desperate and want to compare random guys with the best in the business in hope that at least one of them turns out to be better than Bobby. Reminds of me Shehzad, Umar etc vs Kohli.

You know who is the king of this generation and yes it's a Pakistani :ba
 
jusarrived said:
Babar is a far superior batsmen . There is no comparison here .
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Babar has achieved more. Can’t say anything about superior since Iyer hasn’t played much but obv benefit of doubt should go to babar
 
Slog said:
Is shreyas better or Shaw?
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Shaw only second to KL Rahul I'm Indian cricket as far as batting talent is concerned.

Iyer is more of a pinch hitter down the order. Smashed 88 (38) yesterday against KKR
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
Babar wipes the floor with this Iyer guy in all conditions and all places in the world. Indians are extremely desperate and want to compare random guys with the best in the business in hope that at least one of them turns out to be better than Bobby. Reminds of me Shehzad, Umar etc vs Kohli.

You know who is the king of this generation and yes it's a Pakistani :ba
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I agree babar is king at the moment.
in terms of next generation there are just paddikal, jaiswal, shaw, gill, priyam Garg, iyer

Also there is Rahul, Mayank close to their prime now.

each and everyone of them have match winning ability.
India are stacked in batting.
 
The only apt comparison currently with Babar is Labuschagne or QDK. Don't know why random people who haven't even played a single test would be comparable
 
viveks said:
The only apt comparison currently with Babar is Labuschagne or QDK. Don't know why random people who haven't even played a single test would be comparable
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Lol. Both Labuschagne and QDK are class apart from Babar. They scored runs when it mattered!
 
Shreyas Iyer is an IPL hack.

What are his Ranji stats?
 
Babar is clearly more talented and better against pace bowling.

Iyer plays an anchor role in Indian team and is brilliant against spinners. He seems to have good leadership qualities as well.
 
Every Indian batsman being compared to Babar these days. The obsession to dethrone Bobby is unreal!
 
Rana said:
Every Indian batsman being compared to Babar these days. The obsession to dethrone Bobby is unreal!
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Indians have icons like Gavaskar Tendulkar Dravid Kohli to compare their batsmen. Only on PP are Indian batsmen compared to pakistanis.

Dethrone? Which throne is this?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Indians have icons like Gavaskar Tendulkar Dravid Kohli to compare their batsmen. Only on PP are Indian batsmen compared to pakistanis.

Dethrone? Which throne is this?
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Babar is arguably the greatest test batsman fight now.

It is an argument some people make and I would not want to debate with them on a Sunday.
 
Iyer is a hack and can be compared with the likes of Stoinis. Babar is out of his range and does this comparison does injustice to the poor guy. He seems like a nice bloke.
 
Lol Pakistan fans go overboard now. Yes Babar is the best under 30 player.
Iyer is also a quality player. No need to disrespect him.

India also have plenty of other youngsters ready to make the leap soon.
 
Shreyas entered little late.
He is better striker and good hitter than Babar in LOI.
 
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