No constitutional or contractual way Pakistan can be banned from World Cup: BCCI officials [#279]

[latecut]

South Africa was ousted from International cricket in 1970 and they remain ousted for 21 years. So do not be under the impression that it cannot be done.

 

[Varun]

There is no way the rest of the world will agree to these bullying tactics of the BCCI of having Pakistan kicked out of the WC, not everything is for sale. This is no MOU and this matter will not end up in a tribunal controlled by an ICC tribunal but will end up in a Court of Law independent from ICC and BCCI influence.

Sigh....why do you always want to learn things the hard way.

Case 1: If you stabbed someone in the subway on the way to work, you will be arrested and put behind bars for 10 years.

Case 2: If you are the PCB and you took the BCCI to court because they were in a bad mood and did something, they will steamroller you, make the court look like a banana affair, steamroller you again for good measure, and leave you alone to pick up the pieces.

I'm not saying it's right. Just c'est la vie.

 

[Savak]

South Africa was ousted from International cricket in 1970 and they remain ousted for 21 years. So do not be under the impression that it cannot be done.

South Africa was ousted for racism and Appartheid. You are comparing Apples and Oranges.

 

[Savak]

Sigh....why do you always want to learn things the hard way.

Case 1: If you stabbed someone in the subway on the way to work, you will be arrested and put behind bars for 10 years.

Case 2: If you are the PCB and you took the BCCI to court because they were in a bad mood and did something, they will steamroller you, make the court look like a banana affair, steamroller you again for good measure, and leave you alone to pick up the pieces.

I'm not saying it's right. Just c'est la vie.

Your Case 1 analogy does not apply here.

Your Case 2 analogy is flawed. If the BCCI is in a bad mood and wants to punish Pakistan, they are free to forfeit the Pakistan match and refuse to play against Pakistan, but no free, fair, impartial court in the world which will definately be free from ICC influence and BCCI influence regardless off the best lawyers BCCI can hire will allow and accept Pakistan being banned from a World Cup Cricket event just based on the emotional tantrums of a vindictive ex which is exactly how the BCCI is behaving right now. The courts will rule not to mix Sports and Politics together. This is not the MOU saga which requires govt permission. Even the Indian govt cannot order a neutral sports body to kick another country out.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Sigh....why do you always want to learn things the hard way.

Case 1: If you stabbed someone in the subway on the way to work, you will be arrested and put behind bars for 10 years.

Case 2: If you are the PCB and you took the BCCI to court because they were in a bad mood and did something, they will steamroller you, make the court look like a banana affair, steamroller you again for good measure, and leave you alone to pick up the pieces.

I'm not saying it's right. Just c'est la vie.

PCB will take the ICC to the court, not the BCCI. If they pull off this stunt, ICC will have to choose between its existence and the money from the BCCI. Doesn't take a smart man to figure out which one they'll choose.

And yes, before you get all giddy like a teenage chick, removing Pakistan from the World Cup for this reason will lead to severe ramifications for the ICC.

 

[MenInG]

In the wake of the ghastly and dastardly Pulwama terror strike on February 14, discussions surrounding India's scheduled ICC World Cup 2019 clash against Pakistan has created quite a storm. While few suggest the Virat Kohli-led team to not play their June 16 match against Pakistan, some veterans of the game have adviced the BCCI to put pressure on ICC to ban Pakistan. And now, reports claim that BCCI's Committee of Administrators will have a meeting on February 22 to discuss the India-Pakistan clash and what steps to take in this regard.

According to ANI, CoA will have a meeting on Friday to discuss the future course of action and seek advice from the Sports Ministry, Ministry of External Affairs and Home Ministry. Following it, the board "will take a collective & responsible decision as to what steps can be taken in regards to cricket with Pakistan". The report also added that no letter has been written to the International Cricket Council (ICC) so far regarding the matter.

lndia and Pakistan are slated to face each other on June 16 at the Old Trafford as part of their round-robin fixture in World Cup 2019 for which about 400,000 people have applied for tickets. However, in the wake of the terrifying attack in the Kashmir Valley last week which left 40 CRPF jawans martyred, citizens of India have urged the cricket team to boycott their match against Pakistan.

"I agree that India should stop relations with Pakistan and we need to send a strong message to them. We should take strong action from every angle by the government and we should do this by taking into consideration the sentiments of the nation," former Indian cricketer Sourav Ganguly said on IndiaTV's "Cricket Ki Baat" show. Even Harbhajan Singh and Yuzvendra Chahal had spoken earlier on similar lines.

Meanwhile, India Today reports that the CoA Chairman Vinod Rai in an internal communication on Tuesday asked BCCI CEO Rahul Johri to write a letter to the ICC requesting a ban on Pakistan from World Cup on grounds of harbouring terrorists. The report added that the letter should speak about the 'mood' in India following the ghastly act.

Earlier, BCCI treasurer, Anirudh Chaudhry, speaking to Hindustan Times, revealed that the board is yet to sign the MPA (Member Participation Agreement) and hence the chance of conceding the four points to Pakistan in their June 16 clash with a walkover doesn't come in the frame.

“The BCCI had resolved at the Special General Meeting that the members participation agreement shall not be executed without the authorization of the general body of the BCCI and the BCCI reserves all its rights regarding the MPA and regarding its participation in any other multi-nation tournament or games not covered by the MPA. That answers your question,” he said.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...itten-to-icc-yet-report-pulwama-attack/369709

 

[Varun]

And yes, before you get all giddy like a teenage chick, removing Pakistan from the World Cup for this reason will lead to severe ramifications for the ICC.

Please leave me alone. I'm the last person who wants anything to happen between India and Pakistan - be it on the cricket field or otherwise. I'm just exploring the hypotheticals and having some fun with Savak on the side, who tends to flare up at the mere mention of court cases and legal tribulations.

 

[Varun]

Your Case 2 analogy is flawed. If the BCCI is in a bad mood and wants to punish Pakistan, they are free to forfeit the Pakistan match and refuse to play against Pakistan, but no free, fair, impartial court in the world which will definately be free from ICC influence and BCCI influence regardless off the best lawyers BCCI can hire will allow and accept Pakistan being banned from a World Cup Cricket event just based on the emotional tantrums of a vindictive ex which is exactly how the BCCI is behaving right now. The courts will rule not to mix Sports and Politics together. This is not the MOU saga which requires govt permission. Even the Indian govt cannot order a neutral sports body to kick another country out.

Even if such were true, here's betting the BCCI are smart enough to squeeze things to such a measure that Pakistan 'voluntarily' withdraw themselves from the World Cup and doesn't make it look like the BCCI were directly responsible.

Wouldn't put it past them.

 

[Savak]

Even if such were true, here's betting the BCCI are smart enough to squeeze things to such a measure that Pakistan 'voluntarily' withdraw themselves from the World Cup and doesn't make it look like the BCCI were directly responsible.

Wouldn't put it past them.

Lol if BCCI and the nation of India was smart, they would not be looking so devoid of manhood just because of what one individual did to 43 trained soldiers.

Pakistan may lose every match in the WC but they are not going to voluntarily withdraw. Lol, there is no way the BCCI can make it look like they were not directly responsible given the mood in India and the statement coming out from the Indian Cricketing community on a daily basis.

 

[Savak]

Please leave me alone. I'm the last person who wants anything to happen between India and Pakistan - be it on the cricket field or otherwise. I'm just exploring the hypotheticals and having some fun with Savak on the side, who tends to flare up at the mere mention of court cases and legal tribulations.

Yes, lol. I can see how much you don't want anything bad to happen between India and Pakistan.

 

[Varun]

Pakistan may lose every match in the WC but they are not going to voluntarily withdraw. Lol, there is no way the BCCI can make it look like they were not directly responsible given the mood in India and the statement coming out from the Indian Cricketing community on a daily basis.

The BCCI = ICC. All the sponsors and broadcasters are on its shoulder. Just tighten a couple of screws to a certain extent that Pakistan finds it unviable to participate in the World Cup. Shouldn't happen, but can happen.

Don't worry - you'll have plenty of fodder to push for a particular type of court case or the other.

 

[cricketjoshila]

fines obviously. Because Indias own actions will cause financial problems for ICC.

What do you think, boycotts dont have repercussions?

1996 world cup, West Indies didnt go to Sri Lanka, they had to bare a heavy fine. IN the same world Cup Australia also didn't play 1 match and they were fined.

If the Indian govt stops its citizens from going to a icc tournament, BCCI cant do jack.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Third scenario is BCCi is really sending this letter without any reassurance just because of the pressure from GOI. They will be thoroughly embarrassed, they will lose their clout and will be castigated by every other board. Now that's the game they will never win as they will also jeopardize the participation of foreign players in IPL and hence the next TV rights. I don't think BCCI is this stupid.

Why will other boards side with PCB? Why will foreign player participation in IPL be affected?

What are you even talking!

 

[Slim]

Why will other boards side with PCB? Why will foreign player participation in IPL be affected?

What are you even talking!

Same reason, boards sided with ICC against BCCI when it came to dissolving the big 3. Heck even Bangladesh sided against you.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is not a bilateral. This will impact ICC and thereby every cricketing nation.

So boards will decide to act againist BCCI and lose the millions that they make via bilateral tours. Right?

All this to humour PCB.

 

[cricketjoshila]

BCCI will lose the high ground and will incur fines. It's in BCCI's best interests to play. The usual BCCI ruthless narcissists like Dalmiya, Srinivasan are solid businessmen that took their organization from a relative nobody to a power house in 20 years. I hope better sense prevails once the rhetoric dies down.

If govt stops its citizens, its force majeure.

Countries have boycotted Olympics.

 

[TalhaSyed]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] - so is this fake news or not?

Go on man - you can tell us. We won't tell anyone. No need to pay dumb now

 

[Slim]

Why will other boards side with PCB? Why will foreign player participation in IPL be affected?

What are you even talking!

Same reason, boards sided with ICC against BCCI when it came to dissolving the big 3. Heck even Bangladesh sided against you.

 

[Slim]

So boards will decide to act againist BCCI and lose the millions that they make via bilateral tours. Right?

All this to humour PCB.

If all major boards side against BCCI, whats BCCI going to do? Not play them? Well, how are they going to make those "millions" then, playing themselves?

 

[Slim]

Indians forget that if they dont play anyone, they wont make a single penny. If all boards on principle side with ICC/Pakistan, India cannot do jack. All it would take is to withdraw their players from IPL, and it would be another Ranji trophy type random domestic league LOL

 

[cricketjoshila]

ICC's revenues are through TV rights for world events. They don't get money for bilaterals and nothing from domestic leagues, which IPl is.

AUS and Eng still have a huge clout in ICC. What if Eng and AUS want Indian players to play in their T20 leagues? What if they play bilateral tournaments during IPL? These are all favors to BCCI.

Why will Aus Eng do this? What will pcb give them in return? Why will Aus and Eng jeopardise the millions they make from bilateral tours? The player association in both countries negotiated to free the players for IPL.

The boards may try to convince bcci to play the WC. Cancel the indo pak match. But if there are Govt restrictions then they will know its beyond the bcci.

Other than that there will be nothing else. Boards will take the millions in hit but not jeopardise the other millions that come via bilaterals.


PCB though will be in serious financial strife. No India tours plus now little ICC money.

 

[bujhee kom]

If OP is true, India is making a fool of itself.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Same reason, boards sided with ICC against BCCI when it came to dissolving the big 3. Heck even Bangladesh sided against you.

At the end they had to give BCCI $120mn more than they offered. And at that tIme BCCI didnt offer to boycott the CT.

 

[Slim]

Why will Aus Eng do this? What will pcb give them in return? Why will Aus and Eng jeopardise the millions they make from bilateral tours? The player association in both countries negotiated to free the players for IPL.

The boards may try to convince bcci to play the WC. Cancel the indo pak match. But if there are Govt restrictions then they will know its beyond the bcci.

Other than that there will be nothing else. Boards will take the millions in hit but not jeopardise the other millions that come via bilaterals.


PCB though will be in serious financial strife. No India tours plus now little ICC money.

Have you considered the possibility that BCCI will lose millions as well by not playing those nations, and have major financial issues which can further worsen if the same teams in retaliation pull their players from IPL, the sponsors will give BCCI the fly then.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indians forget that if they dont play anyone, they wont make a single penny. If all boards on principle side with ICC/Pakistan, India cannot do jack. All it would take is to withdraw their players from IPL, and it would be another Ranji trophy type random domestic league LOL

Why all boards will side with PCB?LOL.

1st they lose millions because India isnt playing the WC. Then they lose more because they boycott Bcci bilaterals. Not happening.

All it would take will offer multi million dollar contracts to players they will come to the IPL.

 

[Slim]

Why all boards will side with PCB?LOL.

1st they lose millions because India isnt playing the WC. Then they lose more because they boycott Bcci bilaterals. Not happening.

All it would take will offer multi million dollar contracts to players they will come to the IPL.

I think one year loss would be sufficient to teach BCCI a lesson that they would remember for a very long time.

Boards can combine together to organize a single domestic league in IPL's window.

Some mental grit and planning would smash all clout BCCI has in ICC. Its pretty easy. Also, its necessary for the sake of survival of world cricket. India is a vile, petty nation - leaders are not like that.

 

[Slim]

If push comes to shove, ICC and world cricket need to think long term and think about the survival of world cricket.

Because if they let BCCI have this, they will get encouraged to even ask more the next time. Short term, yes, you might miss on the bi-laterals and all but long term India can be easily made to toe the line. Long term, it means survival of world cricket and BCCI knowing where the boundary is which they would never dare to cross again after getting taught such a lesson.

 

[Slim]

At the end they had to give BCCI $120mn more than they offered. And at that tIme BCCI didnt offer to boycott the CT.

Yet BCCI couldnt get what they wanted, and you still ended up playing CT with a egg on your face.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I think one year loss would be sufficient to teach BCCI a lesson that they would remember for a very long time.

Boards can combine together to organize a single domestic league in IPL's window.

Some mental grit and planning would smash all clout BCCI has in ICC. Its pretty easy. Also, its necessary for the sake of survival of world cricket. India is a vile, petty nation - leaders are not like that.

Problem is no board is going to do all this because PCB or Pakistanis want them to. Your board has little clout and little financial muscle.

Boards will simply count the money they can get.

There is not going to be any boycott of India. Pakistanis can dream about it though.

 

[Majid Khan]

If anything you could argue there is more moral grounds for ICC to take action against a country where there appears to be such open hatred, discrimination and prejudice against people from a specific country, just like the ICC/MCC had set the precedent by disallowing SA from playing cricket during the Apartheid era.

Prejudice and discrimination might be strong words but what else do you call it when their hatred is directed at not just the extremist elements or even the government/military but rather at all people originating from a certain country including artists, sportsmen, and even a blind cricket team would not get spared.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yet BCCI couldnt get what they wanted, and you still ended up playing CT with a egg on your face.

We ended up gettimg $120mn more and thfn only played the CT. That too when BCCI didnt even use its trump card.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If push comes to shove, ICC and world cricket need to think long term and think about the survival of world cricket.

Because if they let BCCI have this, they will get encouraged to even ask more the next time. Short term, yes, you might miss on the bi-laterals and all but long term India can be easily made to toe the line. Long term, it means survival of world cricket and BCCI knowing where the boundary is which they would never dare to cross again after getting taught such a lesson.

The easier and better option is to throw pcb out. Thats far easier than trying to wrestle with BCCI.

Unless other countries get in more money, they will never break BCCI'S grip over world cricket.

 

[Slim]

We ended up gettimg $120mn more and thfn only played the CT. That too when BCCI didnt even use its trump card.

BCCI didnt get the amount they asked for. Let's be clear about it and dont think we are bunch of idiots here, please. Revisionism, keep this tactic out.

The easier and better option is to throw pcb out. Thats far easier than trying to wrestle with BCCI.

Unless other countries get in more money, they will never break BCCI'S grip over world cricket.

Easier yes but better? No.

No one likes a bully.

Like i said, short term thinking will destroy world cricket. Long term thinking will make sure that cricket is not suffering from bullying.

Now its for these boards to think, provided ICC even puts it on a vote.

 

[Varun]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] - You have tremendous stamina to defend the indefensible.

Let's be real - it'd be an utter travesty if we boot Pakistan out of the World Cup.

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] - You have tremendous stamina to defend the indefensible.

Let's be real - it'd be an utter travesty if we boot Pakistan out of the World Cup.

We are not booting anyone out. But if we decide to boycott the world cup, no one is going to take action againist the bcci as our pakistani friends hope.

If there is going to be any boycott, decision will be taken at the CoA meeting tommorow. No one knows whats happening.

 

[cricketjoshila]

BCCI didnt get the amount they asked for. Let's be clear about it and dont think we are bunch of idiots here, please. Revisionism, keep this tactic out.



Easier yes but better? No.

No one likes a bully.

Like i said, short term thinking will destroy world cricket. Long term thinking will make sure that cricket is not suffering from bullying.

Now its for these boards to think, provided ICC even puts it on a vote.

What bullying? We dont like Pakistan and we reserve the right to not play in a tournament Pakistan plays. Countries have boycotted Olympics. So this is nothing new.

 

[a_tahir]

What bullying? We dont like Pakistan and we reserve the right to not play in a tournament Pakistan plays. Countries have boycotted Olympics. So this is nothing new.

You don't have the right to oust pakistan from the tournament however.

Most Pakistanis would take the points instead of playing u anyways.

First read what he's talking about before getting all emotional.

 

[Varun]

And lookie here it's everybody's favourite antagonist adding some of her masala into the equation. :

Diana Edulji not in favour of BCCI asking ICC to ban Pakistan from World Cup

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...-cup-pulwama-terror-attack-1461213-2019-02-21

 

[Slim]

What bullying? We dont like Pakistan and we reserve the right to not play in a tournament Pakistan plays. Countries have boycotted Olympics. So this is nothing new.

Countries, not country.

 

[cricketjoshila]

BCCI didnt get the amount they asked for. Let's be clear about it and dont think we are bunch of idiots here, please. Revisionism, keep this tactic out.



Easier yes but better? No.

No one likes a bully.

Like i said, short term thinking will destroy world cricket. Long term thinking will make sure that cricket is not suffering from bullying.

Now its for these boards to think, provided ICC even puts it on a vote.

Have you heard of negotiations? Bcci ofcourse demanded a very big amount and then took $120mn extra. Thats how you negotiate. If only you guys knew hiw to do that PCB will be a better board.

 

[cricketjoshila]

And lookie here it's everybody's favourite antagonist adding some of her masala into the equation. :

Told you. No letter has been sent. All these are false news.

 

[a_tahir]

The easier and better option is to throw pcb out. Thats far easier than trying to wrestle with BCCI.

Unless other countries get in more money, they will never break BCCI'S grip over world cricket.

Wow. You've gotten some bucks now you're trynna bully pakistan out of the wc.
That's not how it works.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Countries, not country.

Each country is a sovereign nation.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Wow. You've gotten some bucks now you're trynna bully pakistan out of the wc.
That's not how it works.

I would rather have India boycott the WC. Let ICC decide what it wants.

 

[big_gamer007]

Was a masala news and as always Papers spread 3-4 pages of hatred towards India/BCCI over fake news.. Sums up the mentality and relationship between two countries .. Whatever anyone says majority people are full of hatred

 

[Hbomb00]

WTH going on in their minds

 

[Major]

If the Indian govt stops its citizens from going to a icc tournament, BCCI cant do jack.

but they will have to pay a fine no matter what

 

[Rana]

Was a masala news and as always Papers spread 3-4 pages of hatred towards India/BCCI over fake news.. Sums up the mentality and relationship between two countries .. Whatever anyone says majority people are full of hatred

The news initially broke out on the basis of the statement made by Chetan Chauhan. Then and Indian news website ran with this (as quoted on this forum) and reported that BCCI sent an email to the ICC demanding the ousting of Pakistan. BCCI officials commented on this by saying although it is an absurd idea, it will not happen because BCCI does not have majority vote. Make what you want out of this.

 

[Hasan123]

BCCI don't decide who plays in ICC tournaments and who doesn't. If they don't want to play Pakistan that's their decision but they have no right to be asked for us to be kicked out of the World Cup.

I think the game will happen no matter what drama is being caused right now.

 

[Stewie]

BCCI is always on the cash grab mission.


Deathtolls dont matter.. 44, 440 or 4400... they will play pakistan in the world cup

 

[Abdullah719]

It's only India that's going to lose by not playing against Pakistan in World Cup, says Sunil Gavaskar; urges Imran Khan to act

NEW DELHI: India stand to lose by boycotting Pakistan in the upcoming World Cup, feels former captain Sunil Gavaskar, who said the country can continue to "hurt them" by shunning bilateral ties.

Led by former India spinner Harbhajan Singh, calls for a complete cricketing boycott against Pakistan has grown ever since the terror attack in Pulwama last week killed more than 40 CRPF personnel. India are scheduled to play Pakistan on June 16 during the World Cup.

"Who wins if India decide against playing Pakistan in the World Cup? And I am not even talking about the semis and the finals. Who wins? Pakistan win because they get two points," Gavaskar told India Today.

"India have so far beaten Pakistan every time in a World Cup, so we are actually conceding two points when by beating Pakistan, we could make sure that they don't advance in the competition.

"(But) I am with the country, whatever the government decides, I am with it totally. If the country wants we shouldn't play Pakistan, I am with them," he added.

The bilateral cricketing ties between the two countries have already been suspended since 2012 and the teams last played a full series in 2007.
"Where does it hurt Pakistan? It hurts them when they don't play a bilateral series against India. In a multi-country event, it's only Indian cricket team that's going to lose by not playing against them. The entire matter needs to be looked at with a little more depth, I can understand emotions are running high.

"But what happens when you don't play them? I know India are strong enough side to qualify even after conceding those two points but why not beat them and make sure they don't qualify," argued Gavaskar.

If the BCCI takes the matter to the ICC, as is being speculated, and seeks Pakistan's ouster from the event starting from May 30 in England, it is more likely to lose, he said.

"They can try but it will not happen. Because the other member countries have to accept that and I don't see that happening. I am not too sure an ICC conference is the right forum," he said referring to the February 27 to March 2 ICC meetings in Dubai.

"Sure all of us are absolutely down with what has happened, it is such a tragedy but I am not too sure this would work with the ICC. The other counties will say that this is an internal matter between the two countries and they have to deal with it and not involve us."

Gavaskar urged Imran Khan to take the necessary "first step" towards improving ties with India.

"Let me speak directly to Imran Khan, someone who I have admired so much, who I think is a friend. Let me say to Imran 'when you took over you said that it is going to be a new Pakistan'.

"You said that 'India should take the first step and Pakistan will take two steps' but not as a politician, as an average sportsperson, I want to say to you that Pakistan is the one which should take the first step.

"You ensure there is no cross-border infiltration, you ensure that those in Pakistan who are creating problems in India are handed over, if not to India, then to the UN. You take those two steps and you see the number of friendly steps India will take," he said.

Like Indo-Pak cricketers, Gavaskar wants the people of the two countries to enjoy friendly relations.

"I know many Indian and Pakistani cricketers are friends. You (Imran) are my friend, Wasim (Akram) is my friend, Ramiz (Raja) is my friend, Shoaib (Akhtar) is my friend. We have such a good time when we meet in India or outside and I think the people of the two countries deserve that good time.

"So you take that first step. Let the Naya Pakistan take this big first step and you will see India taking a number of steps. The love and affection that Imran gets in India is unbelievable.

"He has spent a lot of time in the country. He knows the Indian people better than any other Pakistani and I do believe that he is capable of taking these steps," said Gavaskar.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...khan-to-act/articleshow/68094443.cms?from=mdr

 

[Varun]

Holy crap they're serious!

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

BCCI has completely lost its marbles

 

[Bilal7]

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What an overreaction over something that WAS NOT Pakistan's fault, in any way, shape or form. I hope the BCCI ruins the last remaining shreds of legitimacy by going ahead with this totalitarian demand so that everyone can know what a corrupt and power-hungry organization it is.

Something tells me that all the other member boards will back Pakistan on this and the BCCI will be stuck between a rock a hard place. Those two points from the India game could be the difference between Pakistan bowing out in the first round or making the semi-finals. I hope we get an Indo-Pak semi-final this time around.

 

[Farhansk]

Let the fun begin. Pakistan will come out of this situation. Numerous efforts were made in the past to alienate Pakistan but all in vain. It is just another shameful attempt of isolating Pakistan but under the leadership of Imran Khan, this wish of the BCCI / GOI will brutally be crushed under the feet by Pakistanis. Lol, GOI is forgetting that it's not Nawaz Sharif at the helm of affairs in Pakistan, it's Imran Khan.

 

[sshakir411]

I get the not playing Pakistan part but asking for a Pakistan ban from the entire tournament is outrageous. ICC baap ki jaidaat hai?

 

[Perth93]

This melodrama over cricket WC is just BJP's political tactic, and not just for votes.

They are using it as a diversionary tactic, because the latest Cobrapost Karaoke sting operation has exposed how they're buying out celebrities to endorse Modi. The heat is on him, so they're trying to keep media busy with some non-issue.

 

[rhony]

Why will Aus Eng do this? What will pcb give them in return? Why will Aus and Eng jeopardise the millions they make from bilateral tours? The player association in both countries negotiated to free the players for IPL.

The boards may try to convince bcci to play the WC. Cancel the indo pak match. But if there are Govt restrictions then they will know its beyond the bcci.

Other than that there will be nothing else. Boards will take the millions in hit but not jeopardise the other millions that come via bilaterals.


PCB though will be in serious financial strife. No India tours plus now little ICC money.

They can still have bilaterals for mutual benefit. Remember that India benefits when these countries visit India as well. As far as IPL goes, there is a huge favor from every board. BCCI should not and will not jeopardize that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They can still have bilaterals for mutual benefit. Remember that India benefits when these countries visit India as well. As far as IPL goes, there is a huge favor from every board. BCCI should not and will not jeopardize that.

There are no favours from PCB to BCCI. Other boards will be looking after their benefits not PCB's.

There can always be a 5 nation tournament with India to make up for any revenue shortfall. Why will boards jeopardise these options?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Stupid demand and stupid defense by everyone.

At the most, India can sit at home, while top cricket teams battle it out for the Trophy.

And if India is going to mope, then that's where they belong.

At their home all alone.

 

[ILcricket]

if true , seems unnecessary to me .

 

[rhony]

So boards will decide to act againist BCCI and lose the millions that they make via bilateral tours. Right?

All this to humour PCB.

Can't keep testing other countries just because BCCI makes a lot of money. It's embarrassing for a host to deal with boycotts and BCCI already enjoys a lot of priveleges. The money earned is not unilateral either. This is a business and should be treated as one

 

[Khwaja78]

India has gone berserk but BCCI won't act crazy. They don't have majority to pass such a resolution. And this will put its 2021 and 2023 hosting in jeopardy also.
India Pakistan WC match seems no more possible.

 

[a_tahir]

India has gone berserk but BCCI won't act crazy. They don't have majority to pass such a resolution. And this will put its 2021 and 2023 hosting in jeopardy also.
India Pakistan WC match seems no more possible.

Not for the next 5-10 years. But if they can play just 4 years after the mumbai attack then they can definitely play after this.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why will Aus Eng do this? What will pcb give them in return? Why will Aus and Eng jeopardise the millions they make from bilateral tours? The player association in both countries negotiated to free the players for IPL.

The boards may try to convince bcci to play the WC. Cancel the indo pak match. But if there are Govt restrictions then they will know its beyond the bcci.

Other than that there will be nothing else. Boards will take the millions in hit but not jeopardise the other millions that come via bilaterals.


PCB though will be in serious financial strife. No India tours plus now little ICC money.

You answered your own question there. Australia and England would be worried about the health of the game in general, already they are losing influence and players to the T20 format. Money isn't everything, those countries managed before the IPL, they will be able to manage without as well. They might consider it is worth sacrificing the money to bring the BCCI in line for the betterment of the game in general. Indian cricket can't survive without Aus or England either.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You answered your own question there. Australia and England would be worried about the health of the game in general, already they are losing influence and players to the T20 format. Money isn't everything, those countries managed before the IPL, they will be able to manage without as well. They might consider it is worth sacrificing the money to bring the BCCI in line for the betterment of the game in general. Indian cricket can't survive without Aus or England either.

Or they can simply make money by playing a 4 nation tournament with India for the losses they incurred due to ICC's reduced profit if India opts out of the world cup.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Or they can simply make money by playing a 4 nation tournament with India for the losses they incurred due to ICC's reduced profit if India opts out of the world cup.

Might be they would prefer to sacrifice some money to regain influence and authority and not be blackmailed by Indian cricket. They aren't stupid, they know India needs them just as much as they need India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Might be they would prefer to sacrifice some money to regain influence and authority and not be blackmailed by Indian cricket. They aren't stupid, they know India needs them just as much as they need India.

Why fight when its not their fight.

 

[Stewie]

My guess is this is just political posturing. They know nothing will come of it. They cant risk losing the money by sitting out. They may forfeit the game against us.. which australia and west indies did vs sL in 96 so its not unprecedented

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why fight when its not their fight.

To reassert their own authority. Cricket as a game is everyone's fight, it isn't in their interest to let India hold it to ransom.

 

[Savak]

What can the PCB do to bring the Australians and English on their side against the Indians?

Let the Indians and BCCI break out and play the IPL among themselves while the rest of the world can play regular cricket together.

 

[Savak]

Pakistan should simply declare no ties with India whatsoever as long as the BJP and Modi govt is in charge.

 

[sl-fan-of-pak]

Lol this is crazy. in the same vein...Throw India out for ill-treating Dalits , for lynching people for eating meat, for torturing Kashmiris ... South India is actually a place with balanced views.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Lol India went full on crazy with this issue. On par with Saudi Arabia pulling out embassy from Canada.

I hope India doesn't follow the route of Saudi Arabia regarding this issue.

 

[Stewie]

Hopefully saner heads will prevail in the end. Pakistan doesnt need to engage in *** for tat politics. We should know expulsion isnt an option. Extend a hand of friendship and hope indians cool down.


The world cup is nothing without a pak-india match..

 

[loves_cricket]

Calm down guys India can not make icc to remove Pakistan from WC
But they may or they will refuse to play with Pakistan in wc.
As it happened in past when eng aus refused to play zim India will lose points
Problem is that it will be massive lose for ecb as huge game will be cancelled.
And may hurt icc coffers as well

 

[SportsWarrior]

This will actually cool down a bit. Pakistan has started to act on JuD and ban charities associated with it. they also are indicating that they might take tough action against them. So if IK does follow through and takes action, then it will cool down a lot. UNSC also has condemned and named Jaish for the attacks..

 

[Savak]

This will actually cool down a bit. Pakistan has started to act on JuD and ban charities associated with it. they also are indicating that they might take tough action against them. So if IK does follow through and takes action, then it will cool down a lot. UNSC also has condemned and named Jaish for the attacks..

You do realize that Jaish has committed acts of terrorism on Pakistani soil as well?

 

[Chokli]

One look at international football should give us a hint. There is no importance given to bilateral games unless it's qualification for WC or some other tournament. There are already T20 club all over the place. They will take control of the talent development.

lol are you really comparing international football to cricket? the two are apples and oranges

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Calm down guys India can not make icc to remove Pakistan from WC
But they may or they will refuse to play with Pakistan in wc.
As it happened in past when eng aus refused to play zim India will lose points
Problem is that it will be massive lose for ecb as huge game will be cancelled.
And may hurt icc coffers as well

It's disappointing to see tweets of high profile Indians on Twitter. Blaming an entire nation for a rogue terrorist attack doesn't make sense. Some are even calling for war (!) Europe had a terrorist attack once every month from 2015-2017, yet they didn't create so much outrage. India has much to learn from them.