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Misbah send his boy Ifti out, Khushdil on debut. Cha cha gets out first ball and Khushdil cluelessly slogs out even thought 1 wicket was already gone. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
Babar just scored a century and being captain he should have been first one out
 
Babar was on 125* and batting until the 49th over.

You need to send out at least one batsman who has the momentum. He is captain and shouldn't bow down to the coach for this stuff.
 
Sorry but

When someone has scored a goddamn century you make him bat.

Don't give me logic like "XYZ are hitters of domestic bowlers" "Babar is skinny dude"
 
I just can't understand how this chacha get to this team. Forget about this super over.
 
Heck they could have send Musa Hasnain and Wahab they would make a decent score like maybe 9-10 runs atleast

I still can't believe he send Iftikhar khushdil and Fakhar

Horrible just horrible tactics

On top of that Iftikhar to open the super over was costly had he simply hr along the groun and got 1 run or 2 or even A four it would be better

Yes you only have 6 balls to play with but at the same time you only have 2 wickets to lose

Had they scored 9 runs or so doesn't mean pak would win but you would give your bowlers a chance to win

Horrible tactics by misbah
 
Can't believe Pakistan lost in super over. A stronger team doesn't miss out such a great chance twice in same game.
 
Babar was on 125* and batting until the 49th over.

You need to send out at least one batsman who has the momentum. He is captain and shouldn't bow down to the coach for this stuff.


He can’t say no to his coach who made him the captain only to say yes. If he says no and the team fails to win despite good fight, Misbah will throw him under the truck to hide all his stupid decisions. I’m glad he bowed down to the coach.
 
Or why not take 2 singles and then go for the big hits in the end?
 
We lack the following:

Planning
Execution
Talent
Skill
Mentality

We have the following in abundance:

Mediocrity
 
Heck they could have send Musa Hasnain and Wahab they would make a decent score like maybe 9-10 runs atleast

I still can't believe he send Iftikhar khushdil and Fakhar

Horrible just horrible tactics

On top of that Iftikhar to open the super over was costly had he simply hr along the groun and got 1 run or 2 or even A four it would be better

Yes you only have 6 balls to play with but at the same time you only have 2 wickets to lose

Had they scored 9 runs or so doesn't mean pak would win but you would give your bowlers a chance to win

Horrible tactics by misbah


Misbah fans here say that he has a good cricketing brain. Oh my word can’t swear enough.
 
Babar and Wahab should have definitely come out. Atrocious thinking by Pakistan.
 
LOL this is new low now Pakistan is truly an awful side now.chacha and two other hacks should stop playing cricket and play gulli danda instead
 
Even sending Wahab instead of Iftikhar would have been a wiser decision
 
This shows an inability to recognize player roles. Iftikhar and Khushdil usually need a bit of time. Someone like Haider is much better at hitting from the get-go, while Babar was already batting just a few minutes ago. Brainless decision making.
 
Our think tank and team think from their behinds in crunch situations. One reason why we always lose to india in wc even before the start.
 
I did not mind Fakhar, because he is in good form and even played okay in the Super Over.

But you gotta send in your batsmen, not middle-order hacks.
 
Why blame Misbah Babar shud have put his foot down and said i am going in
 
Or why not take 2 singles and then go for the big hits in the end?

Hindsight is 20 : 20

You could end up with two v good balls in end and score only 6 odd runs, that's not enough....

I know they have failed but their intent wasn't wrong, execution and skills are the issue
 
We lack the following:

Planning
Execution
Talent
Skill
Mentality

We have the following in abundance:

Mediocrity

The next time this word 'Mediocrity' comes up in dictionary, it should have MISBAH as the synonym
 
Khushdil is a good hitter of spin bowling but needs time to settle against pace. Why sent him over Haider?

Even Iftikhar made more sense then Khushdil.
 
Chacha failed twice & the 2nd time was ridiculous, should’ve been Babar & Wahab, very unfair to send Khusdil in !! We only needed 8-10 runs & Shaheen would’ve been happy to defend that but I think they went out to score 36 😂😂😂 well deserved victory for the Zimbabweans, time to sack Misbah NOW
 
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Babar clearly doesn't have the power game and confidence to take down any bowler in a super over. It was a conscious decision by the team management.
 
Hindsight is 20 : 20

You could end up with two v good balls in end and score only 6 odd runs, that's not enough....

I know they have failed but their intent wasn't wrong, execution and skills are the issue

Ok so u lose first wicket - then what's the plan?
 
No planning against David Warner in 2019 despite Stuart Broad showing entire world how to bowl to him.

No planning against Chris Woakes in 2020 despite weakness against short ball.

No planning for the Super Over, sending out of form players.

This team management is allergic to planning.
 
Babar clearly doesn't have the power game and confidence to take down any bowler in a super over. It was a conscious decision by the team management.

You don't need to send babar if your talking power game

But you most def do not need to send iftikahr

Wahab Musa or anyone else would be better for god sakes
 
Misbah send his boy Ifti out, Khushdil on debut. Cha cha gets out first ball and Khushdil cluelessly slogs out even thought 1 wicket was already gone. Absolutely ridiculous.

Can't believe Misbah Played Uncle Iftikhar in place of Imad Wasim. And then send him to Face first in Super over. What Rubbish?
 
Iftikhar and Khushdil are in the team because of their power game. This was a situation for them, but they failed.
 
The next time this word 'Mediocrity' comes up in dictionary, it should have MISBAH as the synonym

Pakistan have always lacked planning, execution and mentaliy. They used to get away with it a bit in the 90's. This is no 90's anymore. You cant pick nobodies & hacks based on supposed talents and expect to win games without any semblance of plan and strategy.

Zimbabwe are club level side against spin and Pakistan plays 4 pacers without a genuine spinner when you're next Major ICC tournaments would take place in India. These pacers apart from SSA, aren't glass shattering prospects either.

Sending in a leg side hack in super over? Not sending the block who scored a ton in the match?

Pakistan lack talent no doubt and you wont find great talents overnight. But they should try to maximize whatever they've got with superior plans and strategies and backing right players. But Im afraid current management is unable to do any of these tasks.
 
What an atrocious selection for the super over, selecting chacha Iftikhar and the Kushdil is as poor as it can get. Selection should have been Haider , Zaman, Baber in any order desirable.

How long we are going to bear the torture of Mr Misbah and his goofy brainfarts, only God knows.
 
You don't need to send babar if your talking power game

But you most def do not need to send iftikahr

Wahab Musa or anyone else would be better for god sakes

If you look at the match thread, I was crying for Wahab and Musa to be sent as they are the best power hitters in our team.
 
Obviously the entire dressing room panicked like a chicken at the super over. Most members of the team are either school drop outs or haven't had any form of higher education, so expecting anything brainy related to the game is impossible.

Add to that the Santa Claus of the house, Misbah, and you're looking at a disaster unfolding. Centurion and skipper didn't come out to bat with the think tank suggesting big hitting Ifti chachu and debutant Khushil to smash it out of the park when they haven't contributed in the actual match. And then Fakhar, less said about him the better. The hacks were slogging for their life to a medium pacer.

Bunch of clowns, all of them. Individual brilliance, yes. But cricket is not about individuals anymore and half cooked talunt, it is a team sport and requires strategy. Somebody please drill this into the PCB's thick, fat head.
 
That was awful.
Sending in three leg side sloggers for a super over.
Sending Shaheen in to bat ahead of musa.
No specialist spinner.
Not playing abdullah shafiq.
There is a reason misbah's PSL side finished last.
He is a clown without braincells, like the rest of the management.
 
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We lack the following:

Planning
Execution
Talent
Skill
Mentality

We have the following in abundance:

Mediocrity

Even if we take your point, surely we can do better in planning, execution and mentality under a better coach?

With Mickey, despite his flaws, we were going somewhere. Even if people don't agree with what he was doing, rightfully so in some cases like his insistence of not playing spinners in the U.A.E.

With Misbah there is nothing.

Skills can too be enhanced, perfected.

I don't believe in talent anyway. I haven't seen anyone succeed who didn't put in the hardwork in any field. Sure it might give you an advantage but you will be no better if you don't put in the hours.

You don't get better waiting for talent to show up and save the day. But by perfecting what you have.
 
This is Misbah we are talking about. He has always been clueless and not a strategist. IT is time to look past Misbah and Waqar. We were doing very well under Sarfaraz in ODI. In comes Misbah and changes everything around. Trust me, we won't win a single ODI in the next 9 if Misbah still remains.

Mark my words.
 
You don't need to send babar if your talking power game

But you most def do not need to send iftikahr

Wahab Musa or anyone else would be better for god sakes

Babar would have gotten three boundaries and we would have won the match. He has ample power to do that.

Sending in blind power hitters read sloggers is a recipe for disaster, especially when you have a player who was batted nearly the whole of 50 overs.
 
Pakistan in poor planning shocker. These guys have been playing like schoolboys since the 90's when Imran retired. Even then there were worries that they would suffer from leadership issues. I'd be surprised if there's a single person at senior level who has any sort of coaching or management credentials.
 
That was awful.
Sending in three leg side sloggers for a super over.
Sending Shaheen in to bat ahead of musa.
No specialist spinner.
Not playing abdullah shafiq.
There is a reason misbah's PSL side finished last.
He is a clown without braincells, like the rest of the management.

I have to agree Spot on
 
Babar would have gotten three boundaries and we would have won the match. He has ample power to do that.

Sending in blind power hitters read sloggers is a recipe for disaster, especially when you have a player who was batted nearly the whole of 50 overs.

I was replying to previous poster who said don't send babar cuz or no power game

I was simply saying if your gonna talk about power game might as well send someone who was waiting the ball nicely like Wahab

Me personally I would have had Wahab and babar out their
 
Babar is the captain, the tactics surely are not decided by Misbah alone

Babar is a yes man. Naturally for a batsman and as a captain who batted from ball 1 till 49th over would be itching to go out there and hit the superover .. it’s like the second chance for him. I’m very sure Misbah made the decision to send his boy IFthi that’s the op here. ifthi is there because of Misbah. He played only 1 game under Mickey and he knows he will be of no use in any format.
 
That was awful.
Sending in three leg side sloggers for a super over.
Sending Shaheen in to bat ahead of musa.
No specialist spinner.
Not playing abdullah shafiq.
There is a reason misbah's PSL side finished last.
He is a clown without braincells, like the rest of the management.

Nice summary. Can’t agree more .. Misbah watched Musa winning a game for his ISLU side from nowhere against LQ and he feels Shaheen is a better batsman than him. This guy Misbah can’t explain his arrogance towards his decision. One of the weak cricketers,captains and now coach cum selector
 
Also while we are at it, Shaheen should get a mouthful as well.

What was he trying to do? Babar is batting at 120 on the other end. Get a single and let him do it.

No, tries to slog two, misses the first and gets out on the second.

This is always the case with our bowlers. I have no idea what makes them think so highly of themselves with the bat in the hand.
 
Shaheen should have took singles yes rather than trying to swing

Unfortunate wahabs wicket feel at a wrong time he did all he could he played very well but had he stayed out their a little longer we could have one but in hindsight so many things could have been done like not sending Iftikhar to bat in a super over
 
Babar Azam on Super Over strategy

"The three players we sent in the Super Over were sent after careful thought; All these players are power-hitters as you have seen in T20s - these players are finishers and that was the plan behind sending them to bat in the Super Over; All these players, Fakhar,Khushdil, Iftikhar, are power-hitters and utilize the overs well; We sent in Khushdil and Iftikhar as we wanted a left-right combination - but unfortunately they couldn't finish the job"
 
I did not mind Fakhar, because he is in good form and even played okay in the Super Over.

But you gotta send in your batsmen, not middle-order hacks.

How did he play ok in powerplay? He slogged first ball which was just lucky to fall in no mans land
 
Babar Azam on Super Over strategy

"The three players we sent in the Super Over were sent after careful thought; All these players are power-hitters as you have seen in T20s - these players are finishers and that was the plan behind sending them to bat in the Super Over; All these players, Fakhar,Khushdil, Iftikhar, are power-hitters and utilize the overs well; We sent in Khushdil and Iftikhar as we wanted a left-right combination - but unfortunately they couldn't finish the job"

Lol at people who think Babar is just a puppet captain and has no say in who was sent
 
Babar Azam on Super Over strategy

"The three players we sent in the Super Over were sent after careful thought; All these players are power-hitters as you have seen in T20s - these players are finishers and that was the plan behind sending them to bat in the Super Over; All these players, Fakhar,Khushdil, Iftikhar, are power-hitters and utilize the overs well; We sent in Khushdil and Iftikhar as we wanted a left-right combination - but unfortunately they couldn't finish the job"
Outstanding power hitting was on display, against third-rate opposition to be completely honest.
 
Shaheen should have took singles yes rather than trying to swing

Unfortunate wahabs wicket feel at a wrong time he did all he could he played very well but had he stayed out their a little longer we could have one but in hindsight so many things could have been done like not sending Iftikhar to bat in a super over

Musa should have come ahead of him he did it once in the psl to.
 
Very poor planning by the management looks like thier wasnt any process of selecting the 3 players in the super over
 
Planning and Pakistan last only happened under Mickey Arthur. Since then it's been a circus.

Really surprised not to see Haider Ali there, especially after he has shown to smash bowlers from the very start.
 
Everyone knows Misbah is a tool but this is Babar's team. He is squarely to blame for this atrocious "planning"

We're in a tough spot atm leadership wise. Babar is our only option but while he's a terrific batsman, he clearly lacks the acumen to be a good captain. The hope he learns.
 
Everyone knows Misbah is a tool but this is Babar's team. He is squarely to blame for this atrocious "planning"

We're in a tough spot atm leadership wise. Babar is our only option but while he's a terrific batsman, he clearly lacks the acumen to be a good captain. The hope he learns.

No, this is not Babar's team, it was foisted upon him by Misbah and so was the genius tactical decisions. Babar isn't strong or mature enough yet to make his own decisions as Misbah won't allow it.
 
I like to be as realist as I can, but the 3 I would have sent out were:

Haider
Fakhar
Khushdil

Sending Iftikhar out there was as good as sending Rizwan to play the super over. Pointless.
 
Those arguing that sending Fakhar was a mistake are wrong. Doesn’t matter if the guy is in woeful form, you still back him as your clean striker.
 
No, this is not Babar's team, it was foisted upon him by Misbah and so was the genius tactical decisions. Babar isn't strong or mature enough yet to make his own decisions as Misbah won't allow it.

It's always the captain's team. If Babar was mature enough to accept it, he will be held accountable for it regardless of his capabilities. If Babar is not allowed to make his own decisions, he needs to leave. Till he's the captain, he is the one who'll have to face the music.

You know I'm no fan of Misbah and have the utmost disgust for the guy, but we can't just turn a blind eye to others' faults.
 
Was surprised to see Haider not be sent out. He can strike the ball immediately, something that Iftikhar and Khusdhil can't do. It is all about picking the players with the most rhythm in the match. Babar scored the most and looked fluent. Babar, Haider and Fakhar would have been my three.
 
ONLY explanation I can give is that PAK Tank predicted Sikander to bowl the super over; hence they sent the spin basher Ifti as opener and other two are actually good hitters of spin. Sikandar was the most economical bowler today and they thought ZIM is going to use him.
 
This shows an inability to recognize player roles. Iftikhar and Khushdil usually need a bit of time. Someone like Haider is much better at hitting from the get-go, while Babar was already batting just a few minutes ago. Brainless decision making.

Exactly IMO the batting order should've been 1) Babar Azam 2) Haider Ali 3) Wahab Riaz

Haider Ali can hit from the very first ball Babar had the momentum and Wahab also batted well..
 
Fakhar only played one ball and got a single.

A wild hit which luckily didnt go to hand. He played exactly like the other two. How is that doing ok? because he was lucky ball landed in no mans land?
 
This shows an inability to recognize player roles. Iftikhar and Khushdil usually need a bit of time. Someone like Haider is much better at hitting from the get-go, while Babar was already batting just a few minutes ago. Brainless decision making.

Haider literally started his innings with 3 fours in 4 balls but Hey let's send people who need 5 overs to get their eye in :facepalm
 
Those arguing that sending Fakhar was a mistake are wrong. Doesn’t matter if the guy is in woeful form, you still back him as your clean striker.

Errr......Fakhar is not a clean striker at all
 
A wild hit which luckily didnt go to hand. He played exactly like the other two. How is that doing ok? because he was lucky ball landed in no mans land?
You did not watch the over...
:uak
It was not a wild hit. He played it along the ground to long on. Ifti got out 1st ball then Khushdil hit one in no man's land before he chopped on.
 
Shows you how mediocre we are when you need a plan to beat Zimbabwe in a super over.

Still you have to plan - it's actually ZIM who allowed PAK to tie the game by letting a boundary under belly on last ball; but that doesn't mean PAK should return the favor by some ******, clueless Super Over tactics.

What they needed was connection on six balls and just one solid hit .... the best lineup should have been Babar, Haider & Fakhar. They could have thought of Wahab as well and may be put Babar at 3 for Fakhar-Haider to make it a left-right combo - in fact, Fakhar is in horrible touch, could have been Imam as well ..... but Iftekhar!!!!!! Also, the ball Khusdil miscued for a single was a long-hop, bowled at 120KM, a feet outside off and short - unless he was an absolute leg-side hack, on that 60 metre ground, it could have landed in point or 3rd man crowd (I mean chairs).
 
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Babar and Haider should have opened in the super over against Zimbabwe.

How did Babar make a mistake there is beyond me? or Was it Misbah?

Babar should have just walked out with Haider and then Wahab (Wahab should never be in the mix, but what can I say as other batters were simply horrible)

Khushdil was playing his first odi, so not fair to expect him to deal with such a pressure situation in his first match.

Fakhar takes his time now and has not been able to score freely in the first few overs of the innings.

Such a silly decision by Babar and Misbah which cost us the game. I think It was Misbah as there were only few minutes to decide and I don't think that Babar is capable of thinking this fast and make a decision in a hurry.
 
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