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Bewal Express
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I agree with the talent bit but Lets see if he can keep his feet on the ground, lets see if he has good strong people around him and how he is handled by captains.
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I just hope we don't screw up his development.
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he will be the number 1 ranked t20 bowler after 2-3 years
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he should play all formats, his batting and fielding is a big asset as well
He should aim higher than T20... He can be an asset in Test and ODI's.
T20 is hardly serious cricket.
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I rate him as a potential superstar in LOI cricket.
Have to see a bit of him in test before making an opinion.
Folks haven't seen him bat but this guy is a really competent bat aswell.
Have to see a bit of him in test before making an opinion.
Folks haven't seen him bat but this guy is a really competent bat aswell.
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Imran Khan have always said that a leggie is an attacking bowler and is a must have in all formats, his googly is amazing, and his leg break is very good as well.
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he will be a big plus point in our test team with his all-round ability, he can be world class across all formats
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I've been excited about him since the PSL. I actually told my friends that I expect to take 2 wickets in his first over since his googly is a mystery ball for the Windies batsmen. Considering how inept they were playing against Imran Tahir in the tri-series in the Caribbean last year, this was always on the cards.
He is the next big thing in Pakistan cricket, he needs the right attitude and role models going forward. Hope Misbah can instil that attitude into him going forward, since he really looks up to him as a Mianwali Niazi. But, I hope Misabh doesn't make him too defensive and put him in his shell like he did with Yasir in Australia. But, that is unlikely considering Misbah's impending retirement.
Shadab needs to work on his stock ball more, make his action more repeatable, and learn to be patient and not overuse the googly. In terms of batting I'm glad he sees Steve Smith as a role model, I hope he can get to Azhar Mahmood, Razzaq level in batting, and be a trump card with the ball.
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He will be the trump card for the CT2017... Babar, Shadab and Amir will be the one to watch out for from pak in CT2017...
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I am also excited about him . We finally have a leg spinner for LO cricket.
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pls leave him for LOIs for now... U r as overexcited as the player u have as avatar... I agree he is a phenomenal talent, but dont expose him too much... it is not he will keep on getting wickets and nobody will be able to play him.. Top teams will decode his bowling in 1 bilateral series... Exposing him in test will actually kill his effectiveness in LOIs... he should be used for LOIs only till 2019CWC... he will be the trump card for pak both in CT2017 and CWC2019....His tough times will start soon when the top opponents studied how to play him...
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I think Umar Akmal was the last one... 
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i think sarfraz is an ideal captain for him.... he n imad both shld florish under sarfraz... just need to get rid of the space wasters like akmals (both) and hafeez and bring in real passion players like fakhar zaman , hussain talat and harris sohail
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The single biggest difference between PK players and Ind players is intelligence. The lack of intelligence leads to a poor work ethic and hence the waste of talent like Umar, Shazad etc. I hope Shadab is an intelligent person.
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Really excited about him. Along with Imad we have two spinners who are not only threatening they also keep a lid on the runs. Number 4-5 in the rankings is just round the corner. Need to get rid of TTFs in batting though.
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As of now his googly is unplayable and hasn't been cracked yet. Remains to be seen till how long that remains and who is the first person to master him.
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Shadab also needs to bat in Top 6.
He has alot of batting ability.
My display is evidence of that.
He has alot of batting ability.
My display is evidence of that.
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Great addition.
Must bat at #6 in LOIs.
Must bat at #6 in LOIs.
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Totally agree, Mushy was similarly good with his googly at the start (look at Hicks dismissal in the 92 WC Final) but became over reliant and went backwards.
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This guy seems to be very talented. The PCB should ensure that he is not lured into fixing
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Yeah..but are you excited than in the case of Babar Azam and Sharjeel Khan?
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Sharjeel is gone atleast for 6months to an year. Maximum life ban
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Not too long ago we all were very excited about Babar Azam ( and rightfully so).
So it's not that big of a rare thing. Insha'Allah we will see more soon.
So it's not that big of a rare thing. Insha'Allah we will see more soon.
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Imad is threatening?
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In one of the interview, interviewer asked that arent you using your googly too much and Shadab answered that t20s are short and he thinks that we should experiment more with variations.
I think Shady is right. Tahir also uses his variations a lot and he is successful.
I think Shady is right. Tahir also uses his variations a lot and he is successful.
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He can be the mystery spinner we need to take wickets in one day cricket.
But the bigger question is can he also perform in Tests ?
Is he a big spinner of the ball ?
Is he accurate ?
But the bigger question is can he also perform in Tests ?
Is he a big spinner of the ball ?
Is he accurate ?
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Is he good enough for tests? How about his batting?
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Imad is threatening?
Takes wickets almost every time he plays so yes, he definitely is.
Very promising but given the trend for Pakistani talent to take a sharp turn to the left (no pun intended), I am going to wait and see before getting my hopes up too much.
I just started getting excited about Sharjeel and look what happened. When Nasir Jamshed arrived I thought we had a new Saeed Anwar. When Shehzad arrived I got very excited. Heck even Yasir Shah went from the best bowler in world one Lords test match to a nothing bowler in the very next game. Rasa Hasan was once promising. Sami Aslam too (although Sami still has time). Shoaib Maqsood looked like the second coming of Inzi. Umer Akmal looked like the next legendary batsman of world cricket. Junaid Khan once was the leader of the pace attack performing so well that he commanded a category A contract. Even Amir hasn't been the same since his come back. Mohammed Irfan once looked one of the most potent bowlers in the world and even Mohammed Talha looked special for a brief period.
The list goes on and on and on. For some reason, in Pakistani cricket, players turn from world class to nothing in literally the space of a game or two. How and why it happens, I just don't know. Given the disappointments, its best not to become so excited that when these players let you down, you feel upset, which has happened to me a lot!
I just started getting excited about Sharjeel and look what happened. When Nasir Jamshed arrived I thought we had a new Saeed Anwar. When Shehzad arrived I got very excited. Heck even Yasir Shah went from the best bowler in world one Lords test match to a nothing bowler in the very next game. Rasa Hasan was once promising. Sami Aslam too (although Sami still has time). Shoaib Maqsood looked like the second coming of Inzi. Umer Akmal looked like the next legendary batsman of world cricket. Junaid Khan once was the leader of the pace attack performing so well that he commanded a category A contract. Even Amir hasn't been the same since his come back. Mohammed Irfan once looked one of the most potent bowlers in the world and even Mohammed Talha looked special for a brief period.
The list goes on and on and on. For some reason, in Pakistani cricket, players turn from world class to nothing in literally the space of a game or two. How and why it happens, I just don't know. Given the disappointments, its best not to become so excited that when these players let you down, you feel upset, which has happened to me a lot!
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There was Imran Nazir as well, Yasir Hameed had a promising start, Mohammad Asif, Ehsan Adil and the list goes on.
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Babar Azam and Shadab are definitely in the top two.
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The players don't. It's the fans who jump from one extreme to the other and then blame the players for not living up to their expectations.
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I'll agree with this.
At U19, there isn't much difference between India and Pakistan. But the development of Indian players grows positive side while, in case of Pakistan, this seems to get lost. I believe the management is responsible for this.
Since we have a professional setup, it makes it easier for the upcoming players. While it'll take tremendous strength and self believe for a Pakistani player since they won't get much help from outside.
And then people like Imran Khan go talent is not getting a chance to perform in the PSL... we are investing in foreign players instead of that... look at this guy, if anyone knew what this guy was capable of before the PSL please raise your hand...
The credit of this only goes to PSL.. its the brand thats bringing our identity back to our cricket.. what an aggressive little lad, full of energy and a bag full of tricks
The credit of this only goes to PSL.. its the brand thats bringing our identity back to our cricket.. what an aggressive little lad, full of energy and a bag full of tricks
if u didnt know it b4 its ok but for ur kind information mos of pp member knew it and inzi was backing him he was seleected for A tour...he is nt psl product at all he was in u 19 wc squad as well performed in pakistan cup and first class...
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Very exciting talent.
Hammad Azam, Zafar Gohar, Sami Aslam are some of the products of under19- first class, A tours, but have never made it big on the International scene... PSL is the closest thing that comes to International level tournament in Pakistan
The great Imran Khan said, " with complete passion and total commitment, there is nothing that you can't achieve " . . with his talent, he should engrain those words in his mind . .
Passion, determination, commitment, hunger and top of all . . hard work! and he's destined to do some great things for Pakistan inshaAllah
Passion, determination, commitment, hunger and top of all . . hard work! and he's destined to do some great things for Pakistan inshaAllah
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Great prospect but I fear that he will be decoded since almost all of his wickets that I've seen have come from googlies. That cannot be your modus operandi. For a leg spinner a googly cannot be your stock delivery which is what it is for Shadab. I hope he focuses on his leg spin and master that.
Yep you can add plenty more to the list, e.g. Taufeeq Umer.
I don't accept that. There is a specific problem with Pakistani players which is not seen anywhere else in the world. I accept that players go through purple patches and you can't expect them to perform all the time. However Pakistani players go from being brilliant to totally useless - in the space of one or two games. Take my example of Jamshed - his downfall has been so bad that from comparisons with Saeed Anwar he is now compared to tailenders. That sort of dramatic downfall is not explained by fans being unrealistic - there is some other reason for it. The same can be said for Ahmed Shehzad - there was once a time he scored hundreds for fun, in all formats. Now he settles for 20s. The same again can be said for every player which I listed.
What's the explanation? My theory is a mix of complacency and mental weakness. The culture of professionalism seen in other nations isn't found in Pakistani cricket. If you perform in Pakistan, that somehow entitled you to be big headed like Shehzad or become fat like Umer Akmal. That dedication needed to perform consistently at the top level is just missing.
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Yes we did, we saw him in the U19 WC last year and he was good then. The PSL helped but he was known to all of us before the PSL.
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His leg-break and googly is better than Yasir already, but the hallmark of a top class Test spinner is not just taking wickets in helpful conditions, but restricting the flow of runs in unhelpful conditions. This is where Yasir has come up short in comparison to Ashwin - he turns into a helpless kitten when the batsmen attack him.
Tahir, Mishra and Kaneria had the same problem. Time will tell if Shadab will be different, but skill and ability wise he is way above Yasir, who has been playing F/C for a decade but still hasn't mastered the leg-break and the googly, and only looked good when he Mushtaq was with the team.
Tahir, Mishra and Kaneria had the same problem. Time will tell if Shadab will be different, but skill and ability wise he is way above Yasir, who has been playing F/C for a decade but still hasn't mastered the leg-break and the googly, and only looked good when he Mushtaq was with the team.
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Talent can be identified without the PSL but the PSL is a springboard to international cricket, and gives you more recognition in three weeks than any other domestic tournament will in three years. Performing in the PSL is the quickest way to get into the Pakistan team. Shadab would have made it eventually, but he certainly wouldn't have been in the team now if it wasn't for the PSL.
True for most countries. Not for Pakistan. Both fans and player over rate themselves only not to improve and go into oblivion.Ofcourse few players would be exception.
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He has the potential to be one of our best all rounders in all the formats. He can even replace Yasir as our specialist spinner in Test cricket, his batting will be a huge bonus in the lower order, and because of his variety, may even click on green pitches.
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Watching Shadab play would have been like a bucket of cold water on patch of burnt skin for you. So now you can claim a T20I rookie is better than the best leggie since Warne
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[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] I think this is better for the player as well rather than rooting in domestics, Brought onto international with guys like Arthur and Grant Flower with team.
Some players fade away in domestics (Nauman Anwar seemed to have immense potential until someone totally screwed his batting stance).
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Young Spinners fade for 2 reasons; firstly, they get worked out by batsman and when they do, they lose sight of the basics(a fiercely spun leg spinner or an off break) and secondly over bowling causes problems with shoulders and fingers and change in action normally finishes them. For Shadab my advice is to concentrate on the leg spinner and use the googly as a surprise weapon and dont bowl too much, however tempting the money.
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Add Hasan Ali too.
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Our best talent is Hasan Ali, he is our best talent since Akhtar, his performances in Australia and England back it up, as his record against these two modern aggressive teams have been impressive.
Shadab has got some potential, but lets see how he performs against modern aggressive ODI teams.
Shadab has got some potential, but lets see how he performs against modern aggressive ODI teams.
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We could've been top 5 limited overs sides had Sharjeel not screwed up. What a shame.
Sharj, Shizzy, Babar, Sarfraz, Malik, Shadab, Imad, Hassan and Aamir would've formed a formidable side.
Sharj, Shizzy, Babar, Sarfraz, Malik, Shadab, Imad, Hassan and Aamir would've formed a formidable side.
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Both Shadab and Usama Mir are upgrades on Yasir. They have turn and variations that Yasir doesn't have...
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What about his batting ability? I was most excited about that and anything would be an upgrade over Yasir in terms of batting
I saw some clips of him batting, not fully convinced , does he have the ability to be Afridi type hitter ? 20 odd fast runs ?
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Unfortunately PSL and WI are far from a benchmark to gauge a guy's talent...having said that for Pak's sake hope he lives up to the promise.
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He was all over Babar Azam who himself is a pretty solid batsman, Deceiving Malik who is one of best spin players.
Has earnt praises from Sanga without even being asked, So there must be something about him.
Even the ones who don't hype up players see the potential in this guy.
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As I said don't doubt his potential. I have not seen PSL so won't comment on that and for Pak's sake hope he comes through.
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I am surprised more people dont rate his batting.
There is a lot to work with there .
Very very fine talent .
I hope people lay off him if he fails once or twice because a lot of people were calling for sharjeel's head despite him always being a special talent with one of the best reflexes in the game and probably the only one in the country who could consistently hit back of a length genuine fast bowling.
Pakistan's limited overs side has some fine talent and the results will follow.
There is a lot to work with there .
Very very fine talent .
I hope people lay off him if he fails once or twice because a lot of people were calling for sharjeel's head despite him always being a special talent with one of the best reflexes in the game and probably the only one in the country who could consistently hit back of a length genuine fast bowling.
Pakistan's limited overs side has some fine talent and the results will follow.
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Indeed he has massive potential with the bat.
I hope Grant Flower is aware of that and works with him.
all the best young players Pakistan produced are destroyed by luring them into fixing. First Amir and then Sharjeel. Hopefully the streak is stopped.
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I agree. There are many examples of U-19 players looking good at the U-19 level, but then they regress when they spend years domestic cricket. PSL can help them get discovered early and be fast-tracked into the national side, like Shadab.
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He has potential with the bat, and is obviously a massive upgrade on Yasir who is a tail-ender. Not many people in history have had Afridi's hitting ability, so expectations need to be kept low on that front.
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It doesn't matter if he is a T20 rookie or not. Anyone who understands leg-spin can see that both his leg-break and googly are better than Yasir's. In terms of development, he is well ahead of the 'best leggie since Warne' and unless something unexpected happens - which admittedly happens a lot in Pakistan - he should be a better bowler than Yasir within a few years.
I don't need any water on my burnt skin. Yasir got exposed last year because he was not able to control the run-rate when the batsmen attacked him, and his decline started. He will be 'officially' 31 this year, and his fitness is pathetic. He will be finished within 2 years.
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Really?
I have always found him to be very fit. Great Stamina bowling so many overs in tests same energy and so agile, takes really good catches ( alex hales one in Eng test eg)
How do you get this impression?
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I rated Amir a lot in 2010 and Sharjeel Khan this year, hope he doesn't suffer similar fate
That's an interesting point.
I was speaking to some Pak fans today and they were saying how long before Shadab is involved in some controversy.
Sad but a sort of reality these days.
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I don't really think Yasir is "finished"; he just had a bad game and was mismanaged by Misbah so he's still our premier spinner who can still bag wickets. Shadab on the other hand is a great find but I'd much rather prefer if he can be a regular in ODI's and T20's before making a Test debut. He can become a good allrounder for us like the way Ashwin is for India.
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I am looking forward to tomorrow game just because of Shadab. Don't want to jinx him, but he has huge potential mashallah. Could be the next big Pakistani star in ranks of Shaoib, Wasim, Inzy, Afridi etc. Hope he continues.
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Hey, unsurprisingly, he understands 'leg-spin' more than Warne. So, maybe he is a fitness guru as well.
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He'll hopefully give another excellent performance today, I'd like to see his batting as well
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Very very exciting prospect. Didn't let Samuels' sledging get to his head and dismissed him off his last delivery
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Good prospect but needs to be careful with over-doing it with the googly.
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