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Ole Gunnar Solskjaer appointed as permanent manager for Manchester United - The right choice?

Is Ole Gunnar Solskjær the right choice?


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This is where you don’t understand football. You cannot judge a defender purely on stats because a lot depends on the playing style of the team, the tactics etc,

Anyone who watches football without blinkers will tell you that Van Dijk has been miles ahead of Maguire ever since he stepped into the Premier League.

Maguire is a good defender, but the athleticism and pace of Van Dijk makes him a different beast altogether. He does everything Maguire does but he can also do a whole lot more.

If you want to feel good about yourself by insist on comparing two defenders at completely different levels because of stats, then be it far from me to rain on your parade.

Carry on and tell everyone how Maguire at Leicester was superior to Van Dijk at Southampton. You clearly haven’t learned your lesson after calling Depay a better player than Sterling.

yes mamoom talking about someone not understanding something :))), we learn from you everyday what ever the topic it.

coming back to your jibberish on maguire and vd, clearly in the thread i mentioned how maguire and vd were completely different defenders, where vd is way ahead in his defensive duties, he can never match maguire on his on the ball play, which is so good he can play in MF.

As for depay vs sterling, they both were at the same level at the time and i still stand by that, depay had way more potential than sterling, he never fulfilled it because of mentality issues, while sterlings career was saved by pep. If you dont understand that you will never understand a thing, but of course your mamoon,

but as for digging in to past lets not forget how you though arsenal selling van persie to mu and signing giroud was the steal of a lifetime and giroud being the better player :))) i havnt even started on your non football posts otherwise this post will turn into a book.
 
yes mamoom talking about someone not understanding something :))), we learn from you everyday what ever the topic it.

coming back to your jibberish on maguire and vd, clearly in the thread i mentioned how maguire and vd were completely different defenders, where vd is way ahead in his defensive duties, he can never match maguire on his on the ball play, which is so good he can play in MF.

As for depay vs sterling, they both were at the same level at the time and i still stand by that, depay had way more potential than sterling, he never fulfilled it because of mentality issues, while sterlings career was saved by pep. If you dont understand that you will never understand a thing, but of course your mamoon,

but as for digging in to past lets not forget how you though arsenal selling van persie to mu and signing giroud was the steal of a lifetime and giroud being the better player :))) i havnt even started on your non football posts otherwise this post will turn into a book.


I don’t remember. Can you please dig out the posts?

I never liked Giroud, so I think you are making up stuff to avoid your embarrassment as usual.

As far as Depay vs Sterling is concerned, again, you are completely wrong. Depay never had more potential.

Sterling’s immense talent was there for everyone to see at Liverpool and the only thing he lacked was composure which was going to come with experience and it did.

The only reason you rated Depay higher is because he was at United. Your problem is that you are incapable of watching football without your Man United tainted glasses.

Man United can sign a donkey and you will worship him until you realize that he is crap before latching onto another Man United player.
 
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I don’t remember. Can you please dig out the posts?

I never liked Giroud, so I think you are making up stuff to avoid your embarrassment as usual.

As far as Depay vs Sterling is concerned, again, you are completely wrong. Depay never had more potential.

Sterling’s immense talent was there for everyone to see at Liverpool and the only thing he lacked was composure which was going to come with experience and it did.

The only reason you rated Depay higher is because he was at United. Your problem is that you are incapable of watching football without your Man United tainted glasses.

Man United can sign a donkey and you will worship him until you realize that he is crap before latching onto another Man United player.

LOL, no need to lie now and i can see why your trying to high your embarrassment with giroud.

secondly your theory on me liking every man utd is complete nonsense like everyone one of your posts whether its football, politics or anything and i can see why your trying to hide your embarrassment with ridiculous comments like that.

I have always made known when a player at MU should not be here, so dont give my any of that rubbish to protect yourself nonsense comments like that, Depay had potential, more than sterling at that time and i will still love to have him back here, his problem was always a mental one and not a talent one. So there you just proved what nonsense you type.
 
LOL, no need to lie now and i can see why your trying to high your embarrassment with giroud.

secondly your theory on me liking every man utd is complete nonsense like everyone one of your posts whether its football, politics or anything and i can see why your trying to hide your embarrassment with ridiculous comments like that.

I have always made known when a player at MU should not be here, so dont give my any of that rubbish to protect yourself nonsense comments like that, Depay had potential, more than sterling at that time and i will still love to have him back here, his problem was always a mental one and not a talent one. So there you just proved what nonsense you type.

So as expected, you don’t have any proof because you pulled it out of your backside like always. This isn’t the first time you have made up stuff to get out of a hole.

Anyway, I will let it pass. Again.

Depay never had more potential than Sterling. Take your Man United glasses off for once.

If Depay was at Liverpool and Sterling was at Man United, you would have had a completely different stance. Don’t try to fool people who can see through your facade. Please.
 
So as expected, you don’t have any proof because you pulled it out of your backside like always. This isn’t the first time you have made up stuff to get out of a hole.

Anyway, I will let it pass. Again.

Depay never had more potential than Sterling. Take your Man United glasses off for once.

If Depay was at Liverpool and Sterling was at Man United, you would have had a completely different stance. Don’t try to fool people who can see through your facade. Please.

err no, how do you expect me to bring something out from 7/8 years ago? try and grow up for once.

ofcourse your the master of making things up, atleast i dont retract myself like you.

you said i back every MU player, and drop them once sold, but i would love depay back, i dont like many of the current squad, so why are you making up lies with childish statements like that, could you atleast come up with lines?

sterling was nothing but a pace merchant who only knew how to run fast in a straight line, depay had a lot of potential more then running fast in straight lines, ofcourse you wouldnt like to admit being wrong.

but atleast i dont back track, why dont you try and defend your silly comments on giround being better than rvp. ofcourse i expect you to come back with some more lies.
 
err no, how do you expect me to bring something out from 7/8 years ago? try and grow up for once.

ofcourse your the master of making things up, atleast i dont retract myself like you.

you said i back every MU player, and drop them once sold, but i would love depay back, i dont like many of the current squad, so why are you making up lies with childish statements like that, could you atleast come up with lines?

sterling was nothing but a pace merchant who only knew how to run fast in a straight line, depay had a lot of potential more then running fast in straight lines, ofcourse you wouldnt like to admit being wrong.

but atleast i dont back track, why dont you try and defend your silly comments on giround being better than rvp. ofcourse i expect you to come back with some more lies.

The irony is lost on you or maybe not because you know what you are doing.

You are lying through your teeth to save face. I never said anything along those lines and that is why you cannot dig up the posts. You are simply making things up.

Don’t make up stuff from your backside and don’t lie. If you dig yourself in a hole just move on.

As I said, you don’t understand football. You are just a clueless, delusional Man United supporter.

If you want the last word the stage is yours. You have been exposed enough already.
 
Back to the topic of this discussion.

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Manchester United doing well now - in top 5!
 
Arteta outsmarting Ole here.

Now Arsenal are just sitting back waiting to counter. Sadly for them, their front line is a little slow in moving together.
 
We live in a world where Van Dijk costs £75m and Maguire costs £80m.
 
We live in a world where Van Dijk costs £75m and Maguire costs £80m.

What u spend on a player means absolutely nothing.
Maguire only cost 80 mill becuase every1 knew United were desperate for a player.
On a side note, van dijk was bought 18 months earlier which is a big difference too. And English players are more expensive generally too
 
What u spend on a player means absolutely nothing.
Maguire only cost 80 mill becuase every1 knew United were desperate for a player.
On a side note, van dijk was bought 18 months earlier which is a big difference too. And English players are more expensive generally too

You need to have sanity as well. Everyone knows Maguire was not remotely good enough for the transfer fee that he commanded. A good scouting network can find better defenders for half the price.
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Arteta outsmarting Ole here.

Now Arsenal are just sitting back waiting to counter. Sadly for them, their front line is a little slow in moving together.

Hardly, today shows what has been oles problem, the players turn up half asleep to games.

If Arsenal wernt pants, they could have gone in at half time, 4-0 up.
 
United should have signed Alderweireld when he was available. In addition they should have signed Youri Tielemans at the start of the season.

In addition which idiot sells Lukaku and doesn't sign a replacement.
 
You need to have sanity as well. Everyone knows Maguire was not remotely good enough for the transfer fee that he commanded. A good scouting network can find better defenders for half the price.
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I don't think he is that bad and he is in the top 5 in the league.
Leicester just held out for the money, and Maguire didn't throw his toys out like VVD
 
Hardly, today shows what has been oles problem, the players turn up half asleep to games.

If Arsenal wernt pants, they could have gone in at half time, 4-0 up.

Yes, Utd are the best . Liverpool will not come close to winning the league and McGuire is better than VVD.

Arteta's tactics were spot on, his defence was solid and very well organised. He knew Utd cannot sustain any attack with such a good line and will leave themselves open to counter.

Arsenal were very good today, the better side by far.
 
Yes, Utd are the best . Liverpool will not come close to winning the league and McGuire is better than VVD.

Arteta's tactics were spot on, his defence was solid and very well organised. He knew Utd cannot sustain any attack with such a good line and will leave themselves open to counter.

Arsenal were very good today, the better side by far.

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Who said MU are the best? or liverpool will not come close to winning the league? because back this up, otherwise it will make the rest of your posts worthless.

Yes artetas tactics were good and he organised the defense well, but he was helped by MU not turning up till the second half. But ok like you say Arteta outsmarted Ole, just like ole outsmarted both Klopp and Pep, now you will say that never happened. :)))
 
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Who said MU are the best? or liverpool will not come close to winning the league? because back this up, otherwise it will make the rest of your posts worthless.

Yes artetas tactics were good and he organised the defense well, but he was helped by MU not turning up till the second half. But ok like you say Arteta outsmarted Ole, just like ole outsmarted both Klopp and Pep, now you will say that never happened. :)))

Your memory is a as bad as Ole's :)))

Here. "they have no chance, not with that MF and a single injury to there front 3 will kill them, they were lucky last season, i see MC as the only complete squad especially after rodri, they will wrap up the season by december. "

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Premier-League-Trophy-for-the-2019-20-season

lol, you drew with us at HOME when you stated you would be beat us. Now drawing at home is a big achievement for Utd fans :)))

City will wrap up the league by December ..Gold :)))
 
Your memory is a as bad as Ole's :)))

Here. "they have no chance, not with that MF and a single injury to there front 3 will kill them, they were lucky last season, i see MC as the only complete squad especially after rodri, they will wrap up the season by december. "

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Premier-League-Trophy-for-the-2019-20-season

lol, you drew with us at HOME when you stated you would be beat us. Now drawing at home is a big achievement for Utd fans :)))

City will wrap up the league by December ..Gold :)))

Whats wrong with saying city are going to win the league? everyone said it before the season started, i still feel they could have wrapped up the title quite early with the squad they had, liverpool have just sailed through a season where every other team is dropping points for fun. who could have predicted that? you just feel embarrassed now that you mentioned arteta outsmarted ole but cant admit ole outsmarted klop. :)))

i stated we would turn up and win the game against liverpool after some terrible results as its games like those that wake us up, yet you mentioned liverpool will thrash us by more than 4-0 nil and get ole sacked, yet for 70 minutes you wont even in the game.
 
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer says former Manchester United forward Robin van Persie "does not have the right" to criticise his management style.

Van Persie said he was not happy with Solskjaer's demenour after Wednesday's 2-0 defeat by Arsenal, telling BT Sport "this is not the moment to smile".

"I don't know Robin and Robin doesn't know me," Solskjaer said on Friday.

"He probably doesn't have a right to criticise my management style and I won't change."

Van Persie won the Premier League title with Manchester United after joining the club from Arsenal in 2012.

He made 86 appearances for the club, scoring 48 goals, before moving to Turkish side Fenerbahce in 2015.

Solskjaer scored 91 goals in 235 appearances for the Reds between 1996 and 2007.

"Yeah Robin, he took my [shirt] number 20 and that's probably all he's going to take from me as well," Solskjaer said.

Manchester United are fifth in the Premier League, trailing fourth-placed Chelsea by four points, but they have yet to win three Premier League games in a row this season.

They face Wolves in the third round of the FA Cup on Saturday.

Pogba operation for 'bone fragments'
With Scott McTominay ruled out for eight weeks with a knee ligament injury and Paul Pogba missing for a minimum of four weeks after ankle surgery, United's lack of midfield options is again causing Solskjaer a headache.

United will have Fred and Nemanja Matic available for the FA Cup tie against Wolves at Molineux.

There had been talk about Matic leaving Old Trafford during the current transfer window but Solskjaer has ruled that out and it is understood midfield is one of the areas the club are trying to strengthen.

Their problem is that while players in that position are available - former Liverpool player Emre Can is surplus to requirements at Juventus - the club do not want to get bounced into either paying too much for a player they do want or signing someone as a short-term measure, even if the consequence is continued on-field inconsistency.

"We have been looking to strengthen the squad in different positions," said Solskjaer. "But in midfield, at the start of the season we had four fit players for two positions and we didn't find the right one for the value.

"Of course, [the injuries] are a big blow. You could probably handle it with three players rotating.

"If you've got two fit it is a hard task for them. We will just have to ask them to keep going if they can. You can't just accept we're tired."

After the confusion of Wednesday night, Solskjaer also clarified Pogba's injury situation, stating the Frenchman's latest surgery has been to clear up some bone fragments around the ankle.

"If the player is not happy with what he's feeling and he's got loads of pain, then it might be a worry it can get worse," said Solskjaer.

The United boss was not impressed by the comments of Pogba's high-profile and controversial agent Mino Raiola, who this week accused the club of "ruining" players and said he would no longer send his to Old Trafford.

Asked if agents should be offering their opinions on clubs, Solskjaer said: "No."

Neither did he think it would be wise for Pogba to start talking in public himself, believing the best way for United's £89m record signing to deal with criticism is through his performances.

"Paul is a top player who we have missed this season," he said.

"He is very committed to coming back and playing well for us but it's hard to talk when you're injured. His talking needs to be done when he comes back on the pitch.

"The most important thing is that we get him fit."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50983643
 
The sooner they get rid of Solskjaer the better.

This job is too big for him.
 
Absolute disgrace of a manager. The idiot man United fans who still back him can start supporting Molde once this clown is sacked. Never in my life have I seen a manager as bad as this clown. He is not even a Championship standard manager and he is managing Man United in the Premier League. By far the worst manager in the Premier League.

His stupid fans make all the excuses for him saying that we don’t have the players. Absolute nonsense. You have teams like Sheffield United, Norwich, Aston Villa, promoted sides who play better football than us. Look at the way Leeds played against Arsenal and look at the way we played against them. Are you telling me that these teams have better players than Man United? No, but they sure as hell have better managers/coaches than Man United. This guy is starting to make me hate football.

People only go on about the players and the manager and the owners, but these former Man United players, especially the English ones are a big problem. Guys like Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand, Paul Scholes only criticise the foreign players, with Pogba being their number 1 target. They never dare to criticise their fellow Englishmen like rubbish Luke Shaw, rubbish Jessie Lingard and overrated Rashford and waste of money Harry Maguire. And worst of all, they aren’t criticising Ole at all, because he is their mate from their playing days. These ex Man United players are biased who should use their platform to talk about the issues at the club, instead of blindly supporting their mate Ole, who is an atrocious manager.
 
You need to have sanity as well. Everyone knows Maguire was not remotely good enough for the transfer fee that he commanded. A good scouting network can find better defenders for half the price.
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Maguire is your typical young English player. Overhyped and overpriced. He is absolutely average. Unfortunately Man United love these overhyped English players. We are now interested in rubbish Sean Longstaff.
 
United should go all out for Nuno. He is not a flashy name but he is exactly what the club needs at this point.

A tactically brilliant manager with relevant PL experience. Not to mention the fact that he has made Pep his bunny.
 
United should go all out for Nuno. He is not a flashy name but he is exactly what the club needs at this point.

A tactically brilliant manager with relevant PL experience. Not to mention the fact that he has made Pep his bunny.

Nuno won’t be a bad option. He reminds me of Jose Mourinho when he was at Porto.
 
Nuno over pochetino? i wouldnt, think this is perfect for poch to take over, at least he can bring some very decent players from other clubs.

With nuno he will bring some uefa cup level players to utd and utd alreay have too many uefa cup level players.

Poch will remove players like lingaard, shaw, jones, mata, matic, mctominay, rojo.

I thnk man utd will have to try and for someone like eriksen / rakitic / modric - Desperately need a passer in the team
 
Some Italian papers are saying that utd youngster chong will be heading over to juventus - as his contract expires this summer, Juve offering £30,000a week and require someone to play the left side as a youth player
 
Manchester United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer says he is "forthright" with executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward over desired transfer targets.

Solskjaer, 46, has been urged to sign players by former United defender Gary Neville in order to "protect himself".

But Solskjaer said he will "never put myself before the club" and insists Woodward "knows my feelings".

"I am not going to protect myself," Solskjaer said. "I am going to do what is best for the club."

United sit sixth in the Premier League and have two defeats and a draw from three matches in all competitions in 2020.

The club are interested in a move for Sporting Lisbon midfielder Bruno Fernandes and scouted the 25-year-old last week.

Woodward has faced criticism for having too much influence on player recruitment in the past.

During the summer transfer window, the club spent over £130m on defenders Harry Maguire and Aaron Wan-Bissaka, as well as winger Daniel James.

Asked if he is forthright enough with the club's executive vice-chairman Solskjaer said: "Of course I am. Ask him if I am. Of course we have got open discussions and of course we're open and honest and we talk.

"We are building towards something and I'm almost getting bored myself talking about this, and the fans will definitely be bored listening to me talk about what we do have as a vision and a plan."

Neville has urged Solskjaer to be "selfish" by spending the club's money to buy "two or three experienced players".

But the Norwegian says he could "never do that" and is "happy" with his current squad.

"I have those conversations with Ed all the time and we are looking at how we are going to look in one month's time, five months' time, in the longer period," added Solskjaer.

"He knows my feelings and we know our feelings. I am very happy with these players."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51070779
 
2 more seasons after this one if he can finish in top 4/ win Europa
One more season if he finishes top 4 next season and progresses in the cups.
Then we need to be challenging for the league again.

This Liverpool drama will end next season, when they have a couple of big injuries and afcon to deal with. City will remain the team to beat
 
Roy Keane believes that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer deserves one more year in charge.

he was unlucky today, his players martial and perrera missed sitters to equalise. Hes also been unlucky in that he has a thin squad and his best players are out injured, so the question of keeping or letting go of ole should not be addressed till the summer, but if he gets top 4 after the terrible start, injuries and no depth to the squad he should be kept and backed with a good transfer budget in the summer.

However in terms of tactics and managment today, he was spot on and shouldnt have done anything different.
 
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Another tough night in development here.... 0-2 down to Burnley at home. I do fear that Ole’s days may be numbered.
 
Start packing your bags Ole.....your days are numbered.
 
It's obvious Ole is out of his depth. The club made a foolish decision to give him the job full time on the back of that run as interim manager, rather than waiting until the end of the season.

However the problems run much deeper than the manager and sacking Ole won't solve anything as long as the structure above the manager remains the same. There's a reason world class managers like Van Gaal and Mourinho failed at United, and that is because of the owners and Ed Woodward. They don't give a toss about United's on pitch performance, as long as they can keep milking the club dry. The moment the Glazers took over was the beginning of the decline of United. It was only the genius of Ferguson that held the club together in his last few years in charge. Now we are really starting to see the effects of their ownership; mid table medicority with no plan whatsoever. The club is dying a slow death and it will take someone with extraordinary vision and resolve to reverse the decline and get anywhere near Liverpool and City within the next 5 years.
 
Manchester United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer says there is no "quick fix" to improve his squad.

Pressure is mounting on Solskjaer to make January signings after Wednesday's 2-0 home defeat by Burnley.

It was a second straight Premier League loss and the players were jeered.

"We've had one proper transfer window and we're trying to do something now," said Solskjaer, who took over - initially on an interim basis - in December 2018.

During the summer transfer window, United spent over £130m on defenders, bringing in Harry Maguire from Leicester City and Aaron Wan-Bissaka from Crystal Palace, and also signed winger Daniel James from Swansea City.

Solskjaer referenced the squad-building at Liverpool since Jurgen Klopp took charge in October 2015, with the Reds now 16 points clear at the top of the Premier League and the reigning European champions.

"Jurgen Klopp spent four years building his team and they're doing well now," said the Norwegian.

"It's not going be a quick fix - eight or 10 players in the transfer window.

"We can't react to all the noise outside. There'll be criticism - you've got to take it, you've got to be stronger mentally.

"I am, the club is. The staff are very strong mentally and we're sticking to what we believe in. I've got full faith."

BBC Sport understands Solskjaer, who succeeded Jose Mourinho, still has the support of the Old Trafford board and the 46-year-old insisted he has been "trusted" to rebuild the squad.

"When you start on something you stick to that plan. I'm not going to change, six, nine or 10 months into the job and believe in a different way.

"The foundation has to be laid and the culture properly set and laid down. This group is a good core of players who believe in what we're doing to carry us forward with signings and players coming back.

"You need to knock the house down, you don't just start with the roof. We've had some rainy days and wish that roof was on, but we can't hide.

"All my conversations with the club have been positive."

Phil McNulty answers your questions on Solskjaer's future
Man Utd will not pay Sporting Lisbon's 80m euro asking price for Fernandes

Solskjaer won't last beyond this season - Martin Keown
Looking ahead to the Red Devils' FA Cup fourth-round tie at League One side Tranmere Rovers on Sunday (15:00 GMT kick-off), Solskjaer revealed defender Victor Lindelof has recovered form illness and should feature.

He added he has prepared his players for "divots" in the playing surface at Prenton Park.

"The pitch is not great but that's the same for both of us and the players just have to be focused," said Solskjaer.

"Everyone's got to be focused with the bounce of the ball."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51233411
 
Ole today has proven he is a true and proper manager, not only have has tactics and management been spot on in the big games but his player coaching has been immense.

He has turned around Freds career, the worlds best manager, Mourinho bought him and had no clue how to play him, now Ole has turned him into a Black Pirlo

People had given up on Shaw, he has been immense since his injury and like Fred a completely different player under Ole.

Ole has gotten the old Matic back, He was suppose to be joses boy but its ole that is getting him back to his best.

Mctominay has been phenomenal under Ole and another vastly improved player, even people at MU academy are stunned and his growth and turnaround.

He has worked alot on Rashford and turned him into a proper beast and would have been the player of the season if he didn't get injured.

He took AWB, although good before he came to MU and has easily made him the best right back in europe.

He is giving the youngsters a chance and bringing the through the system and has unearthed some gems like Brandon Williams, ofcourse Mason was always coming through to be a good player.

There are some issues that he obviously needs to work on, like gettung DDG back to his best, sort out the Pogba situation and MArtials laziness and slacking aswell as getting rid of the deadwood like Lingard, Perera and jones, i would also like to see how he takes on Bailly and if he can make a proper defender out of him.

But if you are going to get the best manager in world football and give them an average set of players they will do bad, but Ole is doing what any good manager does and thats to polish and nurture the players he has, which he is doing phenomenally well.
 
Of course he isn't the right choice. He is an average manager who is still in the job because of individual brilliance from players like Martial, Rashford, Pogba, Bruno, Greenwood etc. The sooner one of Poch or Ten Hag is appointed, the better.

I respect Ole but he isn't up to the task.
 
Martial, Pogba :))) Greenwood???? are you serious??????, bruno hasnt been here a month. Poch or Ten Hag will be struggling below Arsenal with this squad, as would Pep and Klopp.
btw. is this the same Ten Hag who is knocked out the Europa now.

Lets put credit where its due, hes a good manager that still needs testing but has a terrible and rubbish squad that needs investment.

His player coaching has been immense and transfer business spot on, ofcourse if hes the long term manager MU need to win trophies is yet to be seen but he as of now he deserves a shot and a budget to mould the team in his image.
 
Ole lovers can start supporting Molde when he is sacked and goes back there.

United have a rubbish squad, he is getting the most out of it. Still needs 3 WC players to really challenge Liverpool and Europe.
 
I was at the game yesterday and what an atmosphere it was. The games against Liverpool and City are the games I look forward to the most because the atmosphere is electric.

I wouldn't get too carried away with the win and with Ole generally. Top 4 is a must this season and looking at our fixtures for the remainder of the season, if we don't get top 4 that won't be good enough.

Bringing Bruno in was a massive boost as without him we definitely wouldn't get top 4.

As long as we get into the champions league for next season, Ole should be given the funds to sign 2 or 3 high quality players and get closer to challenging for the title. It remains to be seen if that will happen, but I am hoping after 7 years of mediocrity, we will have a team next season that will be more like a Man Utd team.
 
United have a rubbish squad, he is getting the most out of it. Still needs 3 WC players to really challenge Liverpool and Europe.

A Rubbish squad, but 3 WC players are enough to challenge Liverpool and Europe? That doesn't make any sense.

The reality is that it's a job of the manager to get the best of his players, while Ole isn't. People who say that with Klopp and Pep in charge, United would still be in a same position don't know anything about football. Great managers make players better. A great manager can make an average player look good, whilst an average manager can make a world class player look average.

And besides, Man United don't have a rubbish squad. They have a good squad. Not a good enough team to challenge Liverpool, but certainly with Pep or Klopp in charge, they would be comfortably in the top 4.
 
A Rubbish squad, but 3 WC players are enough to challenge Liverpool and Europe? That doesn't make any sense.

The reality is that it's a job of the manager to get the best of his players, while Ole isn't. People who say that with Klopp and Pep in charge, United would still be in a same position don't know anything about football. Great managers make players better. A great manager can make an average player look good, whilst an average manager can make a world class player look average.

And besides, Man United don't have a rubbish squad. They have a good squad. Not a good enough team to challenge Liverpool, but certainly with Pep or Klopp in charge, they would be comfortably in the top 4.

3 WC players means almost 1/3 of players on the field if you in addition have a good goalie. They can lift average players to good players and good players to outstanding ones. And yes United have a poor squad, I have seen this team since 1987 and this must be one their most average squads in all this period. But still Ole has got the best out of the team.

And in Norway we have a saying: «it’s tough to make the jump after Wirkola has jumped» translated litterally, meaning you have a big mountain to climb after a very good coach in Sir Alex. Many has come and gone after that, but with Ole you have an opportunity because he knows the club better than anyone else and besides Ferguson is still his mentor. Just give him some time and a few more players and the result will get better. If Sir Alex was fired after his poor start you would have not witnessed the United of 90s and 2000s. So patience is the key.

Finally I am not a United fan anyway.
 
Your talking to someone who thinks Ten Hag, whos knocked out of Europa is going to bring MU back :)))
 
Ole is an an average manager who has saved his job (for now) because he lucked out on the signing of Bruno, who is perhaps the best midfielder in the world at the moment after De Bruyne.

It is incredible how United basically got a free run at him and did not face any serious competition. He can literally play for every single team in the world.

Nevertheless, a top player cannot keep a poor manager in the job perpetually. Even Messi couldn’t save Valverde forever.

Sooner or later, United will have to move on from Ole because he cannot win them the league.

He has no idea how to break down weak teams that give him a taste of his own medicine - the one he uses to triumph in big games.
 
Ole is an an average manager who has saved his job (for now) because he lucked out on the signing of Bruno, who is perhaps the best midfielder in the world at the moment after De Bruyne.

It is incredible how United basically got a free run at him and did not face any serious competition. He can literally play for every single team in the world.

Nevertheless, a top player cannot keep a poor manager in the job perpetually. Even Messi couldn’t save Valverde forever.

Sooner or later, United will have to move on from Ole because he cannot win them the league.

He has no idea how to break down weak teams that give him a taste of his own medicine - the one he uses to triumph in big games.

Agree X100.

It's sad that someone who isn't a United fan can see that Ole is an average manager who has been saved by individual moments of brilliance by players, yet a lot of United fans can't see that.
 
Ole is an an average manager who has saved his job (for now) because he lucked out on the signing of Bruno, who is perhaps the best midfielder in the world at the moment after De Bruyne.

It is incredible how United basically got a free run at him and did not face any serious competition. He can literally play for every single team in the world.

Nevertheless, a top player cannot keep a poor manager in the job perpetually. Even Messi couldn’t save Valverde forever.

Sooner or later, United will have to move on from Ole because he cannot win them the league.

He has no idea how to break down weak teams that give him a taste of his own medicine - the one he uses to triumph in big games.

lol, how did he luck out the signing, he should have been given bruno in the summer,

2 things that make managers great are the transfer business and player coaching, and ole has got them spot on, after throwing money and giving war chests to jose and LVG there players didnt even get in there own teams, atleast ole has integrated all his signings into the team, he has done the best business in the transfer market post fergie era. which is a shame on top managers like LVG and jose.

He has developed and turned around players careers who were struggling before he came, like Fred, Shaw, Matic, Rashford, Mctominay and integrated youth into the team.

not saying ole is going to be guaranteed trophies but for now he has done enough to be given more time on his project, Yes he cant break teams down because you cant when you have Perera, Lingard in MF with Martial sulking upfront.
 
Ole is an an average manager who has saved his job (for now) because he lucked out on the signing of Bruno, who is perhaps the best midfielder in the world at the moment after De Bruyne.

It is incredible how United basically got a free run at him and did not face any serious competition. He can literally play for every single team in the world.

Nevertheless, a top player cannot keep a poor manager in the job perpetually. Even Messi couldn’t save Valverde forever.

Sooner or later, United will have to move on from Ole because he cannot win them the league.

He has no idea how to break down weak teams that give him a taste of his own medicine - the one he uses to triumph in big games.

Ole and his team clearly have a better transfer strategy and scouting network. For that alone he deserves a lot of credit.

United for the past 7 yeas have been throwing money at useless signings and collecting deadwood in the ranks.

His signings have generally been good. Wan-Bissaka, Dan James (considering price tag) and now Bruno have all been solid signings. Clearly not just skills was looked at when scouting them but personality and likelihood of buying into the team ethos he is trying to build.

On the other end, he has gotten rid of many deadwood such as Smalling, Sanchez, that Italian right back, Valencia etc etc. Lukaku too was not a good fit for United regardless of his performances in Serie

At the very least whoever comes next will have a much better and leaner group to work with.
 
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Has to take the blame for the loss v Chelsea.

Wrong formation
Wrong tactics
Wrong starting XI

Showed his inexperience as a manager.
 
Might end up being the wrong decision, but my gut feeling is they’ll keep him. As an ex-player he seems to get a much higher “credit balance“ than any of the other external management appointments.
 
From 14th to 3rd

THIS IS WHY THEY SAY PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE

With fans like these its why Football clubs dont progress much

Now its time for the board to back him and give him the squad he needs to bring the EPL back home, where it belong.





Sack him or give him some other role he is not cut for it

Get Antonio Conte Carlo Ancelotti or heck even Rafa Benitez will do better than him A club of United's level got into obscurity of Europa league and late July starts

Hope Ole is Man Utd manager for the next 20 years. He'll get them relegated for sure:ashwin

Terrible decision. It will cost Man U around £20-30m to sack him as he wasn’t anything but a solid interim manager.

Worst united side I have seen ever! Players like Wan Bissaka are good enough to be regular starters for clubs like Crystal Palace and Watford. Not Manchester United!

That fluke win over PSG has cost United big time. They shouldn’t have given him a permanent role and should have tried to rope in Allegri in the summer.

Ole is legitimately one of the worst managers around. He makes Emery look like Klopp.

It's well accepted that he is not good enough for Manchester United. It's just a question of when he will be put out of his misery. Allegri and Pochettino are available. They may not be for much longer so Manchester United have a choice. Stick with Ole and drop down the table, or get Poch or Allegri and start rebuilding.

He is clueless. The Norse Moyes. The myth that he is a big match manager will also burst soon. 3-4 matches are not a big enough sample for that claim.

Ole is rubbish. Plenty more pain to come if United stick with him. The glazers don’t trust hence he didn’t get more money to spend. Allegri and Poch available. Why waste time on a dud like this?
[MENTION=130076]PetroDollars[/MENTION], you’ll see how stupid giving Ole time is over the next few months.


The sooner they get rid of Solskjaer the better.

This job is too big for him.

Absolute disgrace of a manager. The idiot man United fans who still back him can start supporting Molde once this clown is sacked. Never in my life have I seen a manager as bad as this clown. He is not even a Championship standard manager and he is managing Man United in the Premier League. By far the worst manager in the Premier League.

His stupid fans make all the excuses for him saying that we don’t have the players. Absolute nonsense. You have teams like Sheffield United, Norwich, Aston Villa, promoted sides who play better football than us. Look at the way Leeds played against Arsenal and look at the way we played against them. Are you telling me that these teams have better players than Man United? No, but they sure as hell have better managers/coaches than Man United. This guy is starting to make me hate football.

People only go on about the players and the manager and the owners, but these former Man United players, especially the English ones are a big problem. Guys like Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand, Paul Scholes only criticise the foreign players, with Pogba being their number 1 target. They never dare to criticise their fellow Englishmen like rubbish Luke Shaw, rubbish Jessie Lingard and overrated Rashford and waste of money Harry Maguire. And worst of all, they aren’t criticising Ole at all, because he is their mate from their playing days. These ex Man United players are biased who should use their platform to talk about the issues at the club, instead of blindly supporting their mate Ole, who is an atrocious manager.

Start packing your bags Ole.....your days are numbered.

It's obvious Ole is out of his depth. The club made a foolish decision to give him the job full time on the back of that run as interim manager, rather than waiting until the end of the season.

However the problems run much deeper than the manager and sacking Ole won't solve anything as long as the structure above the manager remains the same. There's a reason world class managers like Van Gaal and Mourinho failed at United, and that is because of the owners and Ed Woodward. They don't give a toss about United's on pitch performance, as long as they can keep milking the club dry. The moment the Glazers took over was the beginning of the decline of United. It was only the genius of Ferguson that held the club together in his last few years in charge. Now we are really starting to see the effects of their ownership; mid table medicority with no plan whatsoever. The club is dying a slow death and it will take someone with extraordinary vision and resolve to reverse the decline and get anywhere near Liverpool and City within the next 5 years.
 
3rd place finish and Champions League football next season means that he keeps his job, imo.
 
3rd place finish and Champions League football next season means that he keeps his job, imo.

Deserves it.

Leicester bottled it big time to let them in , while Chelsea have done well to finish 4th with such a young team.

Most Man Utd fans Ive spoken to still want Poch.
 
From 14th to 3rd

THIS IS WHY THEY SAY PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE

With fans like these its why Football clubs dont progress much

Now its time for the board to back him and give him the squad he needs to bring the EPL back home, where it belong.

Ole has done nothing. He lucked out on the signing of Bruno. He is still an average manager with no tactics.
 
Well done Ole! Many pies dished out here [MENTION=130359]petr[/MENTION]oDollars lol.
Looking forward to the Roses Rivalry again between Leeds and ManU.
 
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Ole has done nothing. He lucked out on the signing of Bruno. He is still an average manager with no tactics.

Bruno was nothing but an Ole signing. Hardly luck when its a managers job to get the right signings and for the first time since fergie left we have a manager whos all signings have succeeded and integrated into the starting 11.

You seem to praise pep nonstop for his player coaching, but Ole has been on an other level taking mediocre players like Fred and Mctominay and improving them, hes rejuvenated Matic when he looked finish, he has turned around the careers of rashford, martial, shaw, lindelof etc.

As for tactics, no tactics could save a team with a MF of fred, mctominay, perrera, lingard, Mourinho was suppose to be the greatest but Ole has outdone him in everything, tactics, player-coaching, signings etc.
You mention Bruno, but hes only succeeding because of Oles tactics, any other manager, would have pushed him out to deep to do what hes done best here.

Ole is going to be a phenomenal manager, suck it in.
 
Boy I'm relieved.
Sell the dead wood and raise 70-80m
Get Sancho, a centre back, winger and a cdm ( if he doesn't think Fred and mactominay are good enough)
We can do that with a net spend of 120m
Let's go!

He needs to improve wan bissaka going forward big time, otherwise we will have a major problem as a team, as everybody will allow the ball to go out to him
 
Bruno was nothing but an Ole signing. Hardly luck when its a managers job to get the right signings and for the first time since fergie left we have a manager whos all signings have succeeded and integrated into the starting 11.

You seem to praise pep nonstop for his player coaching, but Ole has been on an other level taking mediocre players like Fred and Mctominay and improving them, hes rejuvenated Matic when he looked finish, he has turned around the careers of rashford, martial, shaw, lindelof etc.

As for tactics, no tactics could save a team with a MF of fred, mctominay, perrera, lingard, Mourinho was suppose to be the greatest but Ole has outdone him in everything, tactics, player-coaching, signings etc.
You mention Bruno, but hes only succeeding because of Oles tactics, any other manager, would have pushed him out to deep to do what hes done best here.

Ole is going to be a phenomenal manager, suck it in.

Ole didn’t have to compete for Bruno’s signature because he is a Man United fan and only wanted to join this club.

Secondly, to say that Bruno is only succeeding because of Ole is a load of nonsense. It is actually the other way round. Ole is only succeeding because of him. Take Bruno out and watch how the team unfolds with Ole not being able to do anything.

Bruno is an elite class midfielder who can walk into any starting XI in the world, and is the only Man United player at the moment who can do that.

Don’t embarrass yourself by comparing Ole’s coaching to Pep’s. The likes of Pep and Klopp are several notches above Ole, and even rookie managers like Arteta and Lampard are better than him.

You can dream about Ole becoming the next SAF. There is no harm in dreaming.
 
Ole didn’t have to compete for Bruno’s signature because he is a Man United fan and only wanted to join this club.

Secondly, to say that Bruno is only succeeding because of Ole is a load of nonsense. It is actually the other way round. Ole is only succeeding because of him. Take Bruno out and watch how the team unfolds with Ole not being able to do anything.

Bruno is an elite class midfielder who can walk into any starting XI in the world, and is the only Man United player at the moment who can do that.

Don’t embarrass yourself by comparing Ole’s coaching to Pep’s. The likes of Pep and Klopp are several notches above Ole, and even rookie managers like Arteta and Lampard are better than him.

You can dream about Ole becoming the next SAF. There is no harm in dreaming.


:))) you are acting like Bruno is messi.

Who said Bruno only wanted to join MU? no other clubs put a bid in for him, Ole had to fight the worst board in football to get him.

Taking Bruno out means replacing him with the likes of Lingard or perrera, so of course the team will unfold we have already seen that happen, you can change all the managers you like but nothing will change it either as we have seen here before with top managers failing and its obvious you could have brought in Pep or Klopp but they weren't getting anything out of this squad. Give the credit were its due rather then being sour grapes.

Comparing poor mans pep, Arteta to Ole is what is embarrassing you, ok Lampard is doing ok, but arteta is a joke, stop embarrassing yourself comparing a mid-lower league manager to Ole, the guy will get sacked soon and end with a CV managing the likes of watford, newcastle, villa and will probably end up in china or the ME, the guys overhyped for being with pep, hes nothing but another André Villas-Boas, who will make arsenal fans dream just like Villas Boas made chelsea fans dream but it will end in tears, as for us dont worry about us dreaming because Ole is already making those dreams a reality, you can bring excuses out one after another, but the fact is he is already surpassing all expectations while Arteta sinks further and further.
 
Need to win Europa league to prove his mettle for a silverware they were lucky to finish 3rd
 
Need to win Europa league to prove his mettle for a silverware they were lucky to finish 3rd

Lucky is that they didnt finish 3rd with a bigger gap and had to play the same 11 with fatigue and tiredness so couldnt kill the games off against WH and southampton, otherwise would have come 3rd with a 4 point gap atleast.
Europa is just a tournament to get into the CL, wouldnt prove much other then handing a trophy to us which im sure will win.
 
:))) you are acting like Bruno is messi.

Who said Bruno only wanted to join MU? no other clubs put a bid in for him, Ole had to fight the worst board in football to get him.

Taking Bruno out means replacing him with the likes of Lingard or perrera, so of course the team will unfold we have already seen that happen, you can change all the managers you like but nothing will change it either as we have seen here before with top managers failing and its obvious you could have brought in Pep or Klopp but they weren't getting anything out of this squad. Give the credit were its due rather then being sour grapes.

Comparing poor mans pep, Arteta to Ole is what is embarrassing you, ok Lampard is doing ok, but arteta is a joke, stop embarrassing yourself comparing a mid-lower league manager to Ole, the guy will get sacked soon and end with a CV managing the likes of watford, newcastle, villa and will probably end up in china or the ME, the guys overhyped for being with pep, hes nothing but another André Villas-Boas, who will make arsenal fans dream just like Villas Boas made chelsea fans dream but it will end in tears, as for us dont worry about us dreaming because Ole is already making those dreams a reality, you can bring excuses out one after another, but the fact is he is already surpassing all expectations while Arteta sinks further and further.

Bruno is not Messi but he is a world class player and the second best midfielder in England after KDB.

You can underrate him to overrate Ole but anyone with no obvious bias can see that he has made Ole look good and it is not the other way round.

Your views on Arteta are laughable including your assessment that he has failed and will be sacked soon. He will be backed by the board and allowed to reform the team over 3-4 transfer windows.

Anyway, I don’t need lectures on football from someone who thinks that Maguire is better than Van Dijk.
 
Bruno is not Messi but he is a world class player and the second best midfielder in England after KDB.

You can underrate him to overrate Ole but anyone with no obvious bias can see that he has made Ole look good and it is not the other way round.

Your views on Arteta are laughable including your assessment that he has failed and will be sacked soon. He will be backed by the board and allowed to reform the team over 3-4 transfer windows.

Anyway, I don’t need lectures on football from someone who thinks that Maguire is better than Van Dijk.


You just contradict yourself with every post, with your logic why dont you just say Pep also lucked out on inheriting a great squad with the best MF in KDB and DS, instead of going around and calling him a great artist. Atleast Ole was able to identify a great MF in Bruno and bring him here, which Pep has failed to do with his unlimited budget.

Its actually your views on poor mans pep, Arteta, that are laughable, you keep defending him and calling him your savior and are willing to forgive him for losing every single game for having a poor squad, but think Ole was rubbish and should be sacked, despite having a worse squad, If ole took over arsenal instead of Arteta, they will be alot high then they are simply because hes a better manager who can get more out his players, Matic, fred, Mctominay, Martial, Rashford are clear examples of this.

Even when you compare the first 6 months, ole got much more out of his players, what has arteta done? JACK, same old mistakes and same players with no improvment. Keep living in your dream, but it will pop soon when you realise Arteta is arsenals Villa Boas, while Ole reaches new heights.

I was comparing stats of Magurie to VVD in the same age range while at Leicester and Southampton.
 
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Ole has done well getting them in the Champions League. Small clubs like Man Utd and their fans shoould be delighted.
 
Mixed bag from Ole.

Saved by qualifying for the Champions League.
 
Disastrous start to PL 2020/21 for him - needs to get his troops rallied up or this season could be a real problem for him personally!
 
Manchester United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer tells BBC Sport: "It is the worst day of my career as Manchester United manager and the worst day for all of them as United players.

"It is not the worst day in Manchester United history, we have bounced back before.

"To explain now is quite difficult. We have been beaten 6-1 at home by a very good side but we have contributed a lot to our own downfall.

"The red card make a lot of difference but Anthony Martial, well done for staying up when he was struck by the arm of Erik Lamela, you don't react but he hit his throat with two fingers, gave him a little slap and Lamela must be having an operation. If that was my son, I know what I would tell him. Anthony knows he should not react like that, the good thing is he did not go down but if he did maybe the other lad would be sent off.

"I know the boys wanted to and they made an effort but making mistakes, everyone makes mistake and today we made loads in the same game. That shows in the result.

"We have to address what we have. The players there are better than what we are showing and we have to come out fighting as a group. Any transfer updates, the window closes tomorrow night, then we will know."
 
As I said before, Ole is a clown whose job was saved last season by Bruno.

However, Bruno himself has been rubbish this season apart from scoring penalties. He will probably hand in a transfer request in January if Ole is still around.

Time for Mr. Delusional [MENTION=130076]PetroDollars[/MENTION] to remind us once again how Ole is the next SAF and how Arteta is going to get sacked before him.

Ole is legitimately among the worst managers in the league. He is tactically clueless.
 
Pochettino is still free. Man United can't miss another chance to sign a top manager.

They have already missed the opportunity to appoint Carlo Ancelotti. Ancelotti would have been perfect for United.
 
Time up?

Senior figures at Manchester United have reportedly made contact with Mauricio Pochettino's team in case they sack manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

That's what the papers are saying.
 
Big reality check for [MENTION=130076]PetroDollars[/MENTION]

OGS is beyond awful.
 
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