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Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Tuesday said India would put to use its share of water from the rivers flowing to Pakistan and ensure that every single drop is used for country's farmer. The work on this had started.

Mr. Modi, who was addressing an election rally at Charkhi Dadri in Haryana, said the river waters that rightfully belonged to India had been flowing to Pakistan for the last 70 years. It would not happen any more.

“For the last 70 years, the waters that belonged to India and farmers of Haryana were going to Pakistan. Modi will stop it and bring it to your households,” he said.

“This water belongs to farmers of Haryana, Rajasthan and the country and we will get it.. Work towards realisation of this has been started and I am committed towards it. Modi will fight your battle,” he asserted.

Abrogation of Article 370
Taking a dig at the Congress on the abrogation of Article 370, Mr. Modi said few Congress leaders were spreading rumours across the globe. “I want to tell them that they are free to abuse me... they can import abuses from Bangkok, Thailand or Vietnam and hurl at me, but they should stop backstabbing Hindustan,” he stated.

The Congress and other Opposition parties, which were against the abrogation of Article 370 and 35A, should come out, if they have the courage, and announce that if they assumed power, the provisions granting special status to Jammu and Kashmir would be restored, he said.

The writing was clear on the wall that the BJP would form the next government in Haryana. “It will be a dual Diwali this time. One, a ‘diya’ [earthen lamp] Diwali and the other a ‘kamal’ [lotus] Diwali. I would urge everyone that let this Diwali be dedicated to out daughters,” he said.

If the villages of Haryana had not come forward, the ''Beti Bachao-Beti Padhao'' campaign would not have progressed the way it had, he noted.

Xi watched Dangal
Chinese President Xi Jinping told him at the recent informal summit in Mahabalipuram, near Chennai, that he had watched Dangal movie. “When he told me that he had watched Dangal,, which exhibited excellent performance of daughters of India, I felt proud of Haryana,” he said.

Mr. Modi alleged that Haryana was the hub of corruption during the Congress regime. “Congressmen built their empire in Delhi by exploiting farmers of Haryana. This was the reason that when action is taken against corruption, Congressmen feel restless.”

Addressing another rally in Kurukshetra, Mr. Modi said the Kartarpur corridor project, which will connect the religious shrine of Sikhs was about to be completed in Punjab. “I am fortunate to get an opportunity to rectify the political and strategic failure that occurred seven decades ago,” he observed.

While the entire country was happy when the country received the first Rafale fighter jet, the Congress party was unhappy, he said.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...no-more-go-to-pakistan-pm/article29690436.ece
 
And China will shut the taps for India.

When was the last time China caused economic harm to itself in order to help their “higher than the mountains, deeper than the ocean and sweeter than honey” friends? 1971, Kargil, the removal of article 370?

China-India trade is soaring - China aren’t stupid to risk that just to get involved in some petty Pakistan/India dispute.

As for the actual issue itself - if either side is breaking the Indus water treaty then they should go to the world bank who oversee the agreement.

It’s not India’s fault that Pakistan haven’t managed their water resources properly over the last 50+ years. One side has been building dams and other hydro projects whilst the other have been arguing amongst themselves and building absolutely nothing.

That said constantly using Pakistan as an election issue in India is pathetic. During Pakistani elections India is barely mentioned yet during Indian elections, even state ones, it’s all about ‘Pakistan Pakistan Pakistan’.
 
When was the last time China caused economic harm to itself in order to help their “higher than the mountains, deeper than the ocean and sweeter than honey” friends? 1971, Kargil, the removal of article 370?

China-India trade is soaring - China aren’t stupid to risk that just to get involved in some petty Pakistan/India dispute.

As for the actual issue itself - if either side is breaking the Indus water treaty then they should go to the world bank who oversee the agreement.

It’s not India’s fault that Pakistan haven’t managed their water resources properly over the last 50+ years. One side has been building dams and other hydro projects whilst the other have been arguing amongst themselves and building absolutely nothing.

That said constantly using Pakistan as an election issue in India is pathetic. During Pakistani elections India is barely mentioned yet during Indian elections, even state ones, it’s all about ‘Pakistan Pakistan Pakistan’.

Irrelevant. Management of water is neither here nor there, India is threatening to cut off the water supply, management or no management. Perhaps the sacred Ganga is so full of **** given the hydro projects running in India, that eye are now set on Indus?

Yes trade is rising between China and India, but so to between Pakistan and China. Your point?

China has previously threatened to cut off the water supply to India.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41303082
 
Does India even have the capability/capacity to do this? My understanding is that during monsoon season there is too much water to manage, hence causing floods in India.

Pakistan should have invested in dams and reservoirs.
 
Irrelevant. Management of water is neither here nor there, India is threatening to cut off the water supply, management or no management. Perhaps the sacred Ganga is so full of **** given the hydro projects running in India, that eye are now set on Indus?

Yes trade is rising between China and India, but so to between Pakistan and China. Your point?

China has previously threatened to cut off the water supply to India.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41303082

China has threatened to cut off water to India in the past after their own border dispute with India - not as some kind of favour to Pakistan.

China hasn't even done anything concrete to help Pakistan on the recent article 370 dispute despite all the hoo-ha Islamabad have been making yet people think they'll get involved when it comes to an IWT dispute?
 
Nothing wrong in claiming the rightful share of water mentioned in treaty. It's not India's problem if Pakistan failed to manage it's resources.
 
Wow. This is the leader of India talking, can't even pass it off as the words of one of his ignorant ministers who seem to spout hate fuelled drivel every waking hour.
 
China has threatened to cut off water to India in the past after their own border dispute with India - not as some kind of favour to Pakistan.

China hasn't even done anything concrete to help Pakistan on the recent article 370 dispute despite all the hoo-ha Islamabad have been making yet people think they'll get involved when it comes to an IWT dispute?

What will China do exactly? Which river will it stop?

Brahmaputra? Only 30% of its water flow comes from Chinese territory. And any disruption will affect Bangladesh.
 
It’s not India’s fault that Pakistan haven’t managed their water resources properly over the last 50+ years. One side has been building dams and other hydro projects whilst the other have been arguing amongst themselves and building absolutely nothing.

The flow of water in the Indian subcontinent was fixed before Pakistan was even a concept. Partition didn't mean that suddenly water could be cut off at the border due to British administered lines of demarcation. Why do you think there was an agreement for free flow of water fixed by overseeing world authorities in the first place?

If India decides they can put the plug independently on water supply, maybe Pakistan will have to send a few nukes to release it again. When the lifeline of a country is threatened desperate measures could easily result.
 
Narendra Modi ladies and gentleman. The sole reason to world disharmony in the past decade.
 
I don't know why people here are getting worked up over his this statement. He just said "our share of water". What's wrong with that ?
 
China has threatened to cut off water to India in the past after their own border dispute with India - not as some kind of favour to Pakistan.

China hasn't even done anything concrete to help Pakistan on the recent article 370 dispute despite all the hoo-ha Islamabad have been making yet people think they'll get involved when it comes to an IWT dispute?

And what's to say China would not threaten again to protect the financial interests in Pakistan, namely CPEC? This was you initial point no? China wouldn't cut off water supply due to increase in economic trade with India? Or does the trade argument work only one way?

You must be naive though, if anything China and Russian politics has taught us, is that silence in public is golden. If you take China's non response in public as a powerful response, then you have not understood China.
 
I don't know why people here are getting worked up over his this statement. He just said "our share of water". What's wrong with that ?

Yes, but does India even have the capability/capacity to do this? Why have they been allowing Pakistan to take their share of water to date?
 
Yes, but does India even have the capability/capacity to do this? Why have they been allowing Pakistan to take their share of water to date?


Yes indian politicians have done comedy in politics but now its modi's time so we expect him to some action.

There is nothing wrong in using india's share of water as per IWT.

Also technically no one in this world has capacity to stop a river water indefinitely with a dam. Every dam has some water storage capacity and if flowing river water exceeds that capacity u'll have no choice but to release water or else the dam walls would be broken & it will be choas to downtrodden areas.
 
Yes indian politicians have done comedy in politics but now its modi's time so we expect him to some action.

There is nothing wrong in using india's share of water as per IWT.

Also technically no one in this world has capacity to stop a river water indefinitely with a dam. Every dam has some water storage capacity and if flowing river water exceeds that capacity u'll have no choice but to release water or else the dam walls would be broken & it will be choas to downtrodden areas.

So it’s all talk then. I don’t buy that India hasn’t been able to utilise its share of the water because previous Governments have ‘done comedy’. It’s more like that they have never had the capability/capacity to do it and still don’t. I guess more investment in dams and reservoirs is needed before India will be able to fulfil this promise and that will take time and a lot of money.
 
Yes indian politicians have done comedy in politics but now its modi's time so we expect him to some action.

There is nothing wrong in using india's share of water as per IWT.

Also technically no one in this world has capacity to stop a river water indefinitely with a dam. Every dam has some water storage capacity and if flowing river water exceeds that capacity u'll have no choice but to release water or else the dam walls would be broken & it will be choas to downtrodden areas.

You can add the catastrophic environmental issues this would cause too..
 
The flow of water in the Indian subcontinent was fixed before Pakistan was even a concept. Partition didn't mean that suddenly water could be cut off at the border due to British administered lines of demarcation. Why do you think there was an agreement for free flow of water fixed by overseeing world authorities in the first place?

If India decides they can put the plug independently on water supply, maybe Pakistan will have to send a few nukes to release it again. When the lifeline of a country is threatened desperate measures could easily result.

Agreements are signed. But when Pakistan doesnot adhere to other agreements, no reason why India will adhere to the IWT.



These nuke threats will work on countries who have no nukes. Not on a country with Thermonuclear capability. Any nuke threat will mean pre emptive strikes from ICBMs from SLBMs etc.
 
So it’s all talk then. I don’t buy that India hasn’t been able to utilise its share of the water because previous Governments have ‘done comedy’. It’s more like that they have never had the capability/capacity to do it and still don’t. I guess more investment in dams and reservoirs is needed before India will be able to fulfil this promise and that will take time and a lot of money.

Who will build those dams reservoirs etc? The govt.
 
China cant cut off the water supply. They never have. All they did was not share hydrological data.

So no China is not going to cut off water supply.

China has a near 90bn usd trade with India annually. They are not going to risk it for a 60bn investment over 20yrs. Esp when Europe and US are increasingly banning chinese products.
 
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Forever in campaign mode this third rate grifter. At some stage folks who fall for this new more confident India chooran will wake up to realize they still have the same third world problems they had regardless of whatever wrongs (imagined or otherwise) done to them during the mughal era.
 
Does India even have the capability/capacity to do this? My understanding is that during monsoon season there is too much water to manage, hence causing floods in India.

Pakistan should have invested in dams and reservoirs.

He stated "our share" means Indian share. He didn't stated the whole water will flow.

If there is an agreement and you claim 100% of your own share, then what's the harm in that? If the other party is not meeting its needs, it means there is lack of administration or shortage is too too much that one should look for a different sources too.
 
India is utilising 95% of water allocated to it from three east flowing rivers so he is talking about blocking remaining only 5% of water flowing to pakistan.
 
Forever in campaign mode this third rate grifter. At some stage folks who fall for this new more confident India chooran will wake up to realize they still have the same third world problems they had regardless of whatever wrongs (imagined or otherwise) done to them during the mughal era.
This.

Best post on this thread. No wonder we're going down the gutter so fast. Or are we in gutter already?
 
He stated "our share" means Indian share. He didn't stated the whole water will flow.

If there is an agreement and you claim 100% of your own share, then what's the harm in that? If the other party is not meeting its needs, it means there is lack of administration or shortage is too too much that one should look for a different sources too.

You didn’t understand my post. Yes I know what Modi said, that he wants to use all of the ‘Indian share’. My question was why isn’t India already using 100% of its share already? Hence my opinion that most likely India doesn’t have the infrastructure to be able to do so, otherwise it would never let Pakistan have its share of the water.
 
Pakistan will consider India's attempt to divert water flow an act of aggression: FO

Foreign Office (FO) spokesperson Dr Mohammad Faisal on Thursday said Pakistan had "exclusive rights" over three Western rivers, adding that any attempt by India to divert the flow of these rivers would be considered an "act of aggression".

While addressing a weekly press briefing, the FO spokesperson was asked a question regarding Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's recent remarks to stop water flowing to Pakistan.

According to Times of India, addressing a rally, Modi had said his government would stop the water flowing to Pakistan and divert it to Haryana "as it rightfully belongs to the country and the farmers of the state".

Dr Faisal today said: "After imposing a crushing curfew and disconnecting the Kashmir Valley for more than two months now, some statements coming from [the] Indian leadership are another glaring example of the fact that the present government of India is bent upon making India an irresponsible, aggressive state that has no regard for human rights or international obligations."

The FO spokesperson said that Pakistan had "exclusive rights" over the waters of three Western rivers under the Indus Water Treaty.

"Any attempt by India to divert the flows of these rivers will be considered an act of aggression and Pakistan has the right to respond."

Tensions between the neighbouring countries escalated following the Indian government's decision to unilaterally revoke Article 370 of its constitution — which granted special autonomy to occupied Kashmir — and intensified ceasefire violations by India on the Line of Control.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1511372/p...-to-divert-water-flow-an-act-of-aggression-fo
 
Forever in campaign mode this third rate grifter. At some stage folks who fall for this new more confident India chooran will wake up to realize they still have the same third world problems they had regardless of whatever wrongs (imagined or otherwise) done to them during the mughal era.

Agreed. Modi comes across as far more intelligent when he keeps his mouth shut, if he has a PR team they might advise him to cut back on public speaking.
 
This statement from Modi proves that we will remain a third world country forever and will never become superpower. Our country is full of narrow minded people and that also includes some members here who are feeling proud of his statement. Bunch of jaahils.

Economy is going down. Unemployment is increasing. Frauds after frauds are happening in the country and these jaahils are happy because he is going to stop giving water to Pakistan. :inti
 
Forever in campaign mode this third rate grifter. At some stage folks who fall for this new more confident India chooran will wake up to realize they still have the same third world problems they had regardless of whatever wrongs (imagined or otherwise) done to them during the mughal era.

Some people have already started abusing him. Economy is going down. Businesses are going down. Prices of petrol are increasing but he is busy giving statements after statements on Pakistan. Our joshili awaam loves his statements though. :inti
 
Some people have already started abusing him. Economy is going down. Businesses are going down. Prices of petrol are increasing but he is busy giving statements after statements on Pakistan. Our joshili awaam loves his statements though. :inti

I hold out hope that twitter is not representative of what folks think in either country. Having said that, its difficult to deny that he did win an election. There's a lot of data available on why ppl voted for BJP etc and some of it does seem to relate to national security. I dont know how invested the average person is in the ayodhya issue or the NRC stuff, but yeah ppl tire of divisive politics eventually.
 
I hold out hope that twitter is not representative of what folks think in either country. Having said that, its difficult to deny that he did win an election. There's a lot of data available on why ppl voted for BJP etc and some of it does seem to relate to national security. I dont know how invested the average person is in the ayodhya issue or the NRC stuff, but yeah ppl tire of divisive politics eventually.

Majority in Hindi belt hence majority in India are with BJP. And our of them a substantial number of people have mindset like the ones you see on twitter. Some voice them openly others keep it to themselves.
 
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