Overrated Youngsters in Pakistan Cricket

[jamie smith fan]

In the last few days following pakistans first round exit from ct25,people are demanding for the axe of senior players like Rizwan.Babar,Naseem,Shaeen etc.Many have also demanded for induction of new faces for nz odis and T20Is.
Lets have a detailed description of these youngstrs to see if they are really good or justoverrated.

1 HASSAN NAWAZ.
T20 sr of 131 and an average of 23 with 2 fifties

He is one of the most overhyped youngster.Firstly he doesnt have some spectacular sr and his average is quite pathetic.
Remember these players are playing against the same bowlers against whom Usman Khan scored 2 tons and 2 fifties i 5 matches.
So I think he doesnt deserve to be in the team,

2 KHAWAJA NAFAY
T20 sr of 131 and an average of 24.
Same case as Hassan Nawaz.
Played 1 good innings in psl and then went into hiding.
But the positive is that he has all the ingredients to become an al format player and with proper grooming he can definiely acheive it.
But I think he doesnt make the cut based on these pathetic numbers.

3 MAAZ SADAQAT
T20 sr of 140 and average of 30.
He has better numbers than nafay and hassan but his sample size is too small.
Still I think hedeserves a chance in odis and t20s based on domestic stats.

I will be adding more players in next post.
I leave the decision to u to decide if they are actually good or just overhyped.
@mominsaigol @YousafTheBeast @Major @followed @BouncerGuy

 

[jamie smith fan]

4 ABDUL SAMMAD
T20 sr of 146 and average is 18.
He has a good sr as a finisher but at least an average of 25 is needed for a frontlinebatter.

5 mubasir khan
T20 SR of 122 and average of 14.
Bowling average is 34 and economy is 8.

He is good prospect fortests but does he deserve a place in t20Is??

 

[RyanRyan10]

Don't overuse the term overrated

 

[Varun]

T20 numbers mean nothing.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I don't think you can call them overrated they are just in the early stages of their careers. Nobody is calling them world beaters they just want them to be given a shot because the more rated players are failing year after year.

 

[Hellion]

All young Pakistani cricketers are overrated. The one not in the team is considered world beater to soothe the hearts of desperate fans

 

[RidiculousMan]

This is one way to bash our youngsters as well.

Sounds like coping mechanism thread to be honest.

 

[LordJames]

In the last few days following pakistans first round exit from ct25,people are demanding for the axe of senior players like Rizwan.Babar,Naseem,Shaeen etc.Many have also demanded for induction of new faces for nz odis and T20Is.
Lets have a detailed description of these youngstrs to see if they are really good or justoverrated.

1 HASSAN NAWAZ.
T20 sr of 131 and an average of 23 with 2 fifties

He is one of the most overhyped youngster.Firstly he doesnt have some spectacular sr and his average is quite pathetic.
Remember these players are playing against the same bowlers against whom Usman Khan scored 2 tons and 2 fifties i 5 matches.
So I think he doesnt deserve to be in the team,

2 KHAWAJA NAFAY
T20 sr of 131 and an average of 24.
Same case as Hassan Nawaz.
Played 1 good innings in psl and then went into hiding.
But the positive is that he has all the ingredients to become an al format player and with proper grooming he can definiely acheive it.
But I think he doesnt make the cut based on these pathetic numbers.

3 MAAZ SADAQAT
T20 sr of 140 and average of 30.
He has better numbers than nafay and hassan but his sample size is too small.
Still I think hedeserves a chance in odis and t20s based on domestic stats.

I will be adding more players in next post.
I leave the decision to u to decide if they are actually good or just overhyped.
@mominsaigol @YousafTheBeast @Major @followed @BouncerGuy

Little harsh when some of these kids have barely started their careers

 

[ElRaja]

all talent is over rated unless its developed. pakistan does not have the expertise to develop any talent. the domestic system is broken, there is no A cricket, no player wants to play red ball cricket. where do you go when everything is wrong?

 

[pakistani pride]

Pak cricket is done and dusted.
Its over.

 

[kingusama92]

Overrated is perhaps a harsh term but unrefined or undeveloped is fair.

A lot of these kids are just starting out, so their numbers will be all over the place. This is where a good talent development program within the system is key to identifying those with potential and those without.

Most of these kids won't fire but if 1-2 do this is a step in the right direction. You immediately bolster your short and long-term.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

If I was in charge, I’d replace Babar, Rizwan for Mo Haris and Abdul Samad.

Our first choice XI in NZ should look like this if all the players are available and injury free.

Saim Ayub
Fakhar Zaman
Mohammad Haris
Tayyab Tahir
Irfan Niazi
Abdul Samad
Amir Jamal
Jahandad Khan
Mohammad Wasim
Sufyan Muqeem
Abrar Ahmed

All these new names being thrown around, I would only bring 2-3 of those and the rest should made to play at least 50 T20’s and List A games each.

It would be dumb to play a team full of new faces, drop them after they fail and they lose the support for future selections.

 

[Savak]

Saya Corporation in full swing. The current players in the national side Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Naseem Rauf and Co are holding the side hostage for the last 5 years and then you have threads like this targeting their replacements

 

[BouncerGuy]

We cannot judge a plyer based on his domestic performance. Have seen players who are beasts in domestic cricket but their international game is zero.

Let these guys play some international games and then we can say if they good or not.

 

[sweep_shot]

In the last few days following pakistans first round exit from ct25,people are demanding for the axe of senior players like Rizwan.Babar,Naseem,Shaeen etc.Many have also demanded for induction of new faces for nz odis and T20Is.
Lets have a detailed description of these youngstrs to see if they are really good or justoverrated.

1 HASSAN NAWAZ.
T20 sr of 131 and an average of 23 with 2 fifties

He is one of the most overhyped youngster.Firstly he doesnt have some spectacular sr and his average is quite pathetic.
Remember these players are playing against the same bowlers against whom Usman Khan scored 2 tons and 2 fifties i 5 matches.
So I think he doesnt deserve to be in the team,

Strike-rate of 130+ isn't that bad. It is not excellent but also not terrible.

 

[Sachin fan]

Strike-rate of 130+ isn't that bad. It is not excellent but also not terrible.

It is if your average is just 23. With that strike rate you need at least 35+ average to be useful.

 

[Justcrazy]

They will be exposed when you bring them at International level. That is the harsh truth.

 

[Xoib]

Nobody wants them to come and play like Bradman what’s important is they get chances and if even two- three of them come good your talent pool deepens and you don’t look like an ass when someone like Saim gets a freak injury

 

[Savak]

They will be exposed when you bring them at International level. That is the harsh truth.

As if the current bradmans playing in the Pakistani team don't get exposed enough already

 

[Muhammad Saad]

None of these players are talented otherwise they would have been dominating in our poor domestic cricket , The truth is they are even worse than Haider Ali , M. Haris , Abdullah Shafiq when it comes to talent.

 

[mominsaigol]

We cannot judge a plyer based on his domestic performance. Have seen players who are beasts in domestic cricket but their international game is zero.

Let these guys play some international games and then we can say if they good or not.

I can, takes me second to do so

 

[mominsaigol]

I can, takes me second to do so

@BouncerGuy Nothing to laugh about. In fact im surprised you guys can't figure it out.

Like the nexus literally all wear black and yellow shirts with a giant yellow symbol on them.

Imam, Babar, Rizwan all wear the same shirts( Metaphorically speaking), and so does any youngster who will eventually fail in international cricket.

Yet idk if you guys are metaphorically color blind or if God gave me the gift of intuition.

Anyway it seems only I and a few others can truly see the truth.

 

[emranabbas]

The reality is that Pakistan lacks a proper talent development system. Players don’t just emerge out of nowhere, they need to be nurtured from the grassroots level, starting with school cricket (U13, U16, U19) and continuing through university.

Moreover, domestic performers aren't given a fair run to prove themselves at international level as there is a lack of patience in Pakistani's in general.

there are far too many "experts"in Pakistan quick to judge a player from the very first ball, each with their own opinions. As the saying goes, "too many chefs spoil the dish."

Too many people have personal favorites and will back their favorites regardless of performance and will hope player will come good one day over genuine talent.

Additionally, the standards set by players like Misbah, Rizwan, and Babar have created a low benchmark. Instead of pushing themselves to excel, many players seem content with just meeting this minimum standard, believing that’s enough to secure a place in the team.

 

[BouncerGuy]

@BouncerGuy Nothing to laugh about. In fact im surprised you guys can't figure it out.

Like the nexus literally all wear black and yellow shirts with a giant yellow symbol on them.

Imam, Babar, Rizwan all wear the same shirts( Metaphorically speaking), and so does any youngster who will eventually fail in international cricket.

Yet idk if you guys are metaphorically color blind or if God gave me the gift of intuition.

Anyway it seems only I and a few others can truly see the truth.

So I gave an example of players who were domestic giants but failed terribly at the international level. That is why I said that you cannot judge a player based on that. Is that wrong, EINSTEIN???

 

[mominsaigol]

So I gave an example of players who were domestic giants but failed terribly at the international level. That is why I said that you cannot judge a player based on that. Is that wrong, EINSTEIN???

Nothing wrong about it. But next time ask me and you will get an answer as to who will succeed and who will fail.

It's that simple. No need for analysis or try outs. Just ask me for a free evaluation.

 

[Energy]

Imagine if Haider Ali, Mohammed Haris, Abdullah Shafique blossomed into good reliable batters. Alas.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Nothing wrong about it. But next time ask me and you will get an answer as to who will succeed and who will fail.

It's that simple. No need for analysis or try outs. Just ask me for a free evaluation.

Sure " BANGALI BABA" YOU ARE GREAT

 

[mominsaigol]

Sure " AUSSIE BABA" YOU ARE GREAT

Aussie Baba. I have embraced my life in Australia.

And no need to be sarcastic, we are having an adult conversation between 2 grown men and this grown man is telling you to listen to me.

Any confusion, you ask me as I'm top 7 smartest people here in regards to pakistan cricket, and top 2 smartest in regards to aussie cricket.

 

[Varun]

Any confusion, you ask me as I'm top 7 smartest people here in regards to pakistan cricket, and top 2 smartest in regards to aussie cricket.

 

[RahulBose]

Aussie Baba. I have embraced my life in Australia.

And no need to be sarcastic, we are having an adult conversation between 2 grown men and this grown man is telling you to listen to me.

Any confusion, you ask me as I'm top 7 smartest people here in regards to pakistan cricket, and top 2 smartest in regards to aussie cricket.

Wow... Some umar Akmal vibes

 

[BouncerGuy]

Aussie Baba. I have embraced my life in Australia.

And no need to be sarcastic, we are having an adult conversation between 2 grown men and this grown man is telling you to listen to me.

Any confusion, you ask me as I'm top 7 smartest people here in regards to pakistan cricket, and top 2 smartest in regards to aussie cricket.

I am not sarcastic. I am saying it legit because you are saying that you know each and everything. and somehow you can see the future.

 

[mominsaigol]

I am not sarcastic. I am saying it legit because you are saying that you know each and everything. and somehow you can see the future.

I am not sarcastic. I am saying it legit because you are saying that you know each and everything. and somehow you can see the future.

Now you're not even making sense. Let me ask you something, when you have an issue with your tooth, Do you go to the dentist, or do you pull your tooth out manually.

^^ Now use this analogy

In this context i am the dentist, aka the consultant and the expert, the man you seek to consult on matters related to future talent in pk cricket.

 

[mominsaigol]

No need to facepalm as I'm top 3 smartest in regards to Indian cricket as well

 

[Justcrazy]

As if the current bradmans playing in the Pakistani team don't get exposed enough already

Yes they are also product of the same system.

 

[Aami]

If I was in charge, I’d replace Babar, Rizwan for Mo Haris and Abdul Samad.

Our first choice XI in NZ should look like this if all the players are available and injury free.

Saim Ayub
Fakhar Zaman
Mohammad Haris
Tayyab Tahir
Irfan Niazi
Abdul Samad
Amir Jamal
Jahandad Khan
Mohammad Wasim
Sufyan Muqeem
Abrar Ahmed

All these new names being thrown around, I would only bring 2-3 of those and the rest should made to play at least 50 T20’s and List A games each.

It would be dumb to play a team full of new faces, drop them after they fail and they lose the support for future selections.

That looks OK ...I like it in fact, except one player, Tayyab Tahir, he is not international standard.

 

[Savak]

Yes they are also product of the same system.

People keep blaming the system. This system produced our previous greats as well, only difference is that once the system gave them the platform to play for the national team, they then took responsibility for their own games and put in the hard work to become great players. That same work ethic, drive and desire to become great players is missing from the current generation of players who have access to more money, facilities, technology and other resources to significantly upskill their games but they just don't want to do it, they are also enabled by a cricket board that rewards them instead of holding them accountable for their consistent mediocrity.

The issue is not the system but the attitude, complacency and the loss of drive of players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Naseem, Rauf e.t.c.

 

[charlie007]

No need to facepalm as I'm top 3 smartest in regards to Indian cricket as well

You and Ahmad Shehzad can host a show together - it will be a super hit

 

[mominsaigol]

You and Ahmad Shehzad can host a show together - it will be a super hit

No because I'd overshadow him. He'd get kicked out of his own yt channel and we can't have that

 

[shaz619]

Ifthikar Ahmed

 

[Muhammad Saad]

The previous batch of these youngsta beauties at least had domestic stats to back up that claim and they all failed miserably in international cricket , literally every single player we tried in last 4/5 years have failed miserably and now the younger crop doesn’t even have domestic stats so it doesn’t need an Einstein to tell you that they will fail as well. Pak cricket is falling to new lows with every passing year.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Players like Nafay, Hasan and Maaz May look good to the eye but they don’t have great numbers in our domestic cricket where even Shahdab is batting at over 100 strike rate in 4 day matches.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Players like Fahim , Khushdil , Haider , Haris and Saim had actually good performance in domestic games before making their way to international cricket and they turned out to be duds so what can we say about new crop?

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Only Shamyl look like a real talent from what I saw and he has performed in grade 2 cricket as well recently.

 

[Devadwal]

How can they are overrated Without even playing for pakistan ?

Let's first give them fair chance then judge .

 

[Muhammad Saad]

How can they are overrated Without even playing for pakistan ?

Let's first give them fair chance then judge .

They are overrated because they didn't even performed in domestic cricket which is far behind International Cricket in terms of skill level. If being U23 makes you talent then they are just young and that's their talent.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Players like Fahim , Khushdil , Haider , Haris and Saim had actually good performance in domestic games before making their way to international cricket and they turned out to be duds so what can we say about new crop?

That is a fair point but these upcoming young guys should be given a chance now as we have no other choice.

 

[Devadwal]

They are overrated because they didn't even performed in domestic cricket which is far behind International Cricket in terms of skill level. If being U23 makes you talent then they are just young and that's their talent.

I have seen Abdul samad batting little bit and he looks powerful hitter ,now all depends on PCB how they will groom him.

He has ability to become finisher for pakistan in limited overs cricket .

 

[Muhammad Saad]

I have seen Abdul samad batting little bit and he looks powerful hitter ,now all depends on PCB how they will groom him.

He has ability to become finisher for pakistan in limited overs cricket .

Mentally he is very thin and he overthinks and tries to not lose his wicket at the start of his innings and in the process he gets out to simple straight deliveries , he is nothing more than a club cricketer with a bit of power in his shots. Shahwaiz Irfan is a real talent and power hitter.

 

[jamie smith fan]

He is just a trick pony like asif ali,he will be found after 2-3 matches.

Mentally he is very thin and he overthinks and tries to not lose his wicket at the start of his innings and in the process he gets out to simple straight deliveries , he is nothing more than a club cricketer with a bit of power in his shots. Shahwaiz Irfan is a real talent and power hitter.

 

[jamie smith fan]

That is a fair point but these upcoming young guys should be given a chance now as we have no other choice.

Yeah we are in west indies territory now with lots of sub 20 averaging batsmen being hailed as messiahs.
Players like nafay,hassan nawaz have less than 30 average in all formats.
Saim is 100x better than these players in terms of both sr and average with all of them being of the same age.
If these players were any good they would have been dominating in dominating in domestics as well where old horses like ayaz taswwar,umar amin and fawad alam are top scorers.As of sr it is ironically even less than the current crop.
Only player with somewhat ok stats is maaz with over 30 average in white ball formats and 40 in fc.His sr is also better and he can improve very much considering he is only 18 now.
Haider who is cconsiderd as a hack also averages 50 odd in fc and usman khan has a list A average of 75 and t20 average of 31 at 145 sr.
So only throw those youngsters into consideration who have domestic performance as well.

 

[jamie smith fan]

My playing xi for nz t20s.

Maaz(139 sr at 30)
Omair bin Yousuf(131 at 33).
Mohammad Haris.
Hussain Talat
Haider ali
Agha Salman(Captain + Floater.)
Niazi
Arafat
Abbas
Wasim jr
Akif/Abrar

Salman and maaz to share 5th bowlers quota.

Reserves
Sufyan
Jk
Saad Masood.
Yasir khan

 

[Justcrazy]

People keep blaming the system. This system produced our previous greats as well, only difference is that once the system gave them the platform to play for the national team, they then took responsibility for their own games and put in the hard work to become great players. That same work ethic, drive and desire to become great players is missing from the current generation of players who have access to more money, facilities, technology and other resources to significantly upskill their games but they just don't want to do it, they are also enabled by a cricket board that rewards them instead of holding them accountable for their consistent mediocrity.

The issue is not the system but the attitude, complacency and the loss of drive of players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Naseem, Rauf e.t.c.

Cricket has moved on from those days . Cricket has evolved from 1990s , and you see other teams moving forward .

Which team would be scoring 22 in 10 overs chasing 320 ?

The system needs to evolve also.

 

[Savak]

Cricket has moved on from those days . Cricket has evolved from 1990s , and you see other teams moving forward .

Which team would be scoring 22 in 10 overs chasing 320 ?

The system needs to evolve also.

I disagree, the system is fine. Its the badniyat corrupt nature of the individuals and actors involved i.e. the players, coaches and administrators. The players bear the brunt of the blame because they have been given eternal chances for the last 7-8 years whereas coaches, selectors, administrators have come and gone. These players ultimately have the bat, ball in hand and they will only get out of the game what they put in. Its no secret that our players have stagnated because of their complacency and lack of competition for their spots in the team.

 

[Mas-LFC]

Khawaja Nafay. Give him some chances in both T20i and ODI’s. He is the next big thing from batting point of view from Pakistan. Mark my words.

 

[jamie smith fan]

No he is all hype no performance.
If he was that good he would have dominating in domestics but a sub 20 average doesnt suggest so.

Khawaja Nafay. Give him some chances in both T20i and ODI’s. He is the next big thing from batting point of view from Pakistan. Mark my words.

 

[shamaan]

If I was in charge, I’d replace Babar, Rizwan for Mo Haris and Abdul Samad.

Our first choice XI in NZ should look like this if all the players are available and injury free.

Saim Ayub
Fakhar Zaman
Mohammad Haris
Tayyab Tahir
Irfan Niazi
Abdul Samad
Amir Jamal
Jahandad Khan
Mohammad Wasim
Sufyan Muqeem
Abrar Ahmed

All these new names being thrown around, I would only bring 2-3 of those and the rest should made to play at least 50 T20’s and List A games each.

It would be dumb to play a team full of new faces, drop them after they fail and they lose the support for future selections.

Who's going to captain?

 

[shamaan]

My playing xi for nz t20s.

Maaz(139 sr at 30)
Omair bin Yousuf(131 at 33).
Mohammad Haris.
Hussain Talat
Haider ali
Agha Salman(Captain + Floater.)
Niazi
Arafat
Abbas
Wasim jr
Akif/Abrar

Salman and maaz to share 5th bowlers quota.

Reserves
Sufyan
Jk
Saad Masood.
Yasir khan

Hussain Talat ?

 

[ataullah]

In the last few days following pakistans first round exit from ct25,people are demanding for the axe of senior players like Rizwan.Babar,Naseem,Shaeen etc.Many have also demanded for induction of new faces for nz odis and T20Is.
Lets have a detailed description of these youngstrs to see if they are really good or justoverrated.

1 HASSAN NAWAZ.
T20 sr of 131 and an average of 23 with 2 fifties

He is one of the most overhyped youngster.Firstly he doesnt have some spectacular sr and his average is quite pathetic.
Remember these players are playing against the same bowlers against whom Usman Khan scored 2 tons and 2 fifties i 5 matches.
So I think he doesnt deserve to be in the team,

2 KHAWAJA NAFAY
T20 sr of 131 and an average of 24.
Same case as Hassan Nawaz.
Played 1 good innings in psl and then went into hiding.
But the positive is that he has all the ingredients to become an al format player and with proper grooming he can definiely acheive it.
But I think he doesnt make the cut based on these pathetic numbers.

3 MAAZ SADAQAT
T20 sr of 140 and average of 30.
He has better numbers than nafay and hassan but his sample size is too small.
Still I think hedeserves a chance in odis and t20s based on domestic stats.

I will be adding more players in next post.
I leave the decision to u to decide if they are actually good or just overhyped.
@mominsaigol @YousafTheBeast @Major @followed @BouncerGuy

Akif Javed?
Faisal Akram?
Muhammad Shahzad?
Haider Ali?
Ali Raza?
Ubaid Shah?
Abdul Subhan?
Muhammad Zeeshan?
Zeeshan Zameer?
Shahid aziz?

 

[Farabi]

My playing xi for nz t20s.

Maaz(139 sr at 30)
Omair bin Yousuf(131 at 33).
Mohammad Haris.
Hussain Talat
Haider ali
Agha Salman(Captain + Floater.)
Niazi
Arafat
Abbas
Wasim jr
Akif/Abrar

Salman and maaz to share 5th bowlers quota.

Reserves
Sufyan
Jk
Saad Masood.
Yasir khan

You picked the right players but messed up the order. Having Haris in your T20I line up and not letting him lose against pace in T20I cricket should be crime!

 

[jamie smith fan]

Haris is good enough to play anywhere in top 5

You picked the right players but messed up the order. Having Haris in your T20I line up and not letting him lose against pace in T20I cricket should be crime!

 

[jamie smith fan]

Akif Javed?
Faisal Akram?
Muhammad Shahzad?
Haider Ali?
Ali Raza?
Ubaid Shah?
Abdul Subhan?
Muhammad Zeeshan?
Zeeshan Zameer?
Shahid aziz?

I have only written about those players who were in contention for nz tour.
Reviewing ur options

Akif Javed:He has an awful domestic record so I don't think he should have been selected over Jahandad Khan or Abbas afridi.
He performed well in BPL recently but the standard of BPL is even well below National T20 Cup.

Faisal Akram:He needs to play lots and lots of fc cricket as currently he is not that good.
With age on his side he can be a good asset for pak.

Muhammad Shahzad: Brilliant player.
Equally talented as Saim
Has been performing consistently for 1-1.5 years
Good batter,has the Xfactor but needs to work on his bowling little bit more to become a Ben Stokes,Razzaq level allrounder.

Haider Ali: He should be recalled asap.
Had to be selected over parchi Hassan Nawaz.

Ali Raza,Ubaid,Subhan and m. Zeeshan:
They need to play atleast 2-3 more seasons of fc and then we have a great pace quartet in our hands.

Zeeshan Zammer:looked like a good prospect couple of years back but then disappeared like he never existed.

Shahid Aziz: At best domestic level bowler.
Doesn't have that much capability to make it to the highest level but he can prove me wrong.

Lots of other good players are also there in domestics like

M ammar
Obaid Shahid
Salman jr
Arshad Ullah
M Azab
Yasir Khan
Saad Masood
Mubasir khan
Qasim Akram
Arafat
Mehran

So talentwise we don't have any deficiency but need to make merit based selections not parchi selections.

 

[jamie smith fan]

How can they are overrated Without even playing for pakistan ?

Let's first give them fair chance then judge .

Because everyone on this forum is crying for their selection and projecting them as messiahs.

 

[Farabi]

Haris is good enough to play anywhere in top 5

It’s not about being good enough, it’s about where the talent is maximizing for the benefit of the team. He’s probably the best hitter of pace in the country

 

[jamie smith fan]

So u can play him as an opener while oby drops down to 3.

It’s not about being good enough, it’s about where the talent is maximizing for the benefit of the team. He’s probably the best hitter of pace in the country

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Who's going to captain?

Mo Haris

 

[RyanRyan10]

It's understandable that the Pakistan team has fallen short of expectations in recent times, leading to anger among fans. But the blame should not be directed towards the youngsters who are new to international cricket or those who aren't regular players. Some fans who were predicting start of a golden era 3-4 years ago are now predicting that Pakistan may soon find themselves playing qualifier tournaments. They should give the youngsters a chance to prove themselves.

 

[jamie smith fan]

So I was right @Muhammad Saad @m.shah

 

[m.shah]

So I was right @Muhammad Saad @m.shah

Need to give this series to these guys

 

[BouncerGuy]

Cannot judge a player based on 1 game but Yeah, that was a pathetic start...

 

[Muhammad Saad]

So I was right @Muhammad Saad @m.shah

The guys who couldn’t even perform in home conditions in our pathetic domestic cricket will naturally be a sitting duck in international cricket in alien conditions.

 

[Sachin fan]

So I was right @Muhammad Saad @m.shah

How do you judge players based on single match? What was sachins score in his first series. Or kohlis in his first english tour?

This is too premature.

 

[Devadwal]

Because everyone on this forum is crying for their selection and projecting them as messiahs.

Still too early to judge but things are not looking good for pakistan cricket . Young player's are playing the brainless cricket

 

[Asif321]

The only talent which has came out of Pakistan in batting since decade is Fakhar and Saim . Honestly . These upcoming bunch look lost .

 

[IAJ]

Something, somewhere is very wrong.

Why can not a country of 250 million people where only one Sports is prioritized not produce 11 good players?

On the other hand you have a country of less than 6 million people producing decent players on a regular basis.

Facilities, money, professionalism, had work etc. have a lot to say but we have produced good players in past so why not anymore? It seems like they way entire country is run is mirrored in every single department.

 

[Vikram1989]

Wow never thought pak players will go in to such a low iq mode.seems any fan with decent common sense can be a good coach

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Better to select U21 players and cycle them until we get some players who can improve on Job training , players like Samad , Haris and Irfan are not young nor they have talent.

We should groom these batters for T20 cricket

Azan Awais
Shahzeb Khan
shamyl Hussain
Hasan Nawaz
Muhammad Shehzad
Maaz Sadaqat
Abdul Faseeh
Haseebullah

Some of the guys are not natural hitter but they are young and can develop if exposed to quality international bowlers in alien conditions
, no point in picking 25+ age domestic cricketers a they have already developed their game and will never improve much to survive International cricket.

 

[saimayubera]

Something, somewhere is very wrong.

Why can not a country of 250 million people where only one Sports is prioritized not produce 11 good players?

On the other hand you have a country of less than 6 million people producing decent players on a regular basis.

Facilities, money, professionalism, had work etc. have a lot to say but we have produced good players in past so why not anymore? It seems like they way entire country is run is mirrored in every single department.

Cricket has become super professional hence the first world countries which were poor in the 90s have become good.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

In such poor economic circumstances where even brining the bread to the table has become extremely difficult, no body with a sane mind would want their children to take cricket as a profession specially without any financial benefits or the certainty of a fix income and continuous career hence the youth is not bothered with cricket and we are not getting any decent talent.

 

[jamie smith fan]

Better to select U21 players and cycle them until we get some players who can improve on Job training , players like Samad , Haris and Irfan are not young nor they have talent.

We should groom these batters for T20 cricket

Azan Awais
Shahzeb Khan
shamyl Hussain
Hasan Nawaz
Muhammad Shehzad
Maaz Sadaqat
Abdul Faseeh
Haseebullah

Some of the guys are not natural hitter but they are young and can develop if exposed to quality international bowlers in alien conditions
, no point in picking 25+ age domestic cricketers a they have already developed their game and will never improve much to survive International cricket.

Bro these are all test and odi players barring maaz and shehzad.
Hasan nawaz isn't good enough.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Saad
Harris
Jahandad
Sufiyan