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PAF chases away Indian jets after LoC airspace violation

Lol let the Indian media and politicians have their fill with this. Pakistan should not respond militarily. Escalating the situation further will be futile.

People can argue semantics as long as they want, as long as no damage was done to the population.
 
TBH, Pak's angle is interesting. Acknowledging it is strange. They could mount a diplomatic shitstorm on India through China. Man, I've been so wrong so far. I never imagined India would do this. There is no advantage to this

You dont understand. This strike has ensured Modi wins the elections if there was any doubt at all. Modi's Media will present this strike as some massive achievement which has destroyed Pakistan. You will hear Indians brag about it for months to come without knowing how useless it was.
 
On maps it shows 25 to 30 km. In the news they are saying it's 50 km. Even if it's a few km, they unloaded bombs. This is not a joke. Anyway, I'll wait for news on CNN

Alright.
 
It is indeed in Poonch. The twitter account you are linking to has got it wrong and fallen prey to rumours. Its Balakot sector within 3 kms of LOC, not Balakot city of KPK.

Dude he has clearly given the reasoning for it.
 
Agree, should had carried on with proxy and covert actions , not sure whats gonna happen.

What's the point invading Pakistan and ruining both economies anyway.

Terrible if true.

Sometimes it's needed.

But Modi should pay for all the fiascos under his regime including Pulwama.

Did you watch him talk about how India has jobs in Rising India event?

It was infuriating. This guy is good for bhashans.
 
Pakistan army says Indian jets violate airspace, release payload

Indian aircraft have violated Pakistani airspace near the Line of Control (LoC) in the disputed territory of Kashmir, dropping a payload that left no casualties, Pakistan's military has said.

The aircraft entered Pakistani airspace early on Tuesday morning and returned to India after Pakistani air force jets were scrambled to intercept them, Major General Asif Ghafoor said in a Twitter post.

"Facing timely and effective response from Pakistan Air Force released payload in haste while escaping which fell near Balakot. No casualties or damage," he said.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Indian Air Force violated Line of Control. Pakistan Air Force immediately scrambled. Indian aircrafts gone back. Details to follow.</p>— Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor (@OfficialDGISPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/status/1100179216375693318?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Payload of hastily escaping Indian aircrafts fell in open. <a href="https://t.co/8drYtNGMsm">pic.twitter.com/8drYtNGMsm</a></p>— Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor (@OfficialDGISPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/status/1100231826348617728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The Indian aircraft appear to have crossed the LoC near the border village of Chakothi in Pakistan-administered Kashmir.

"People in Chakothi heard a very loud sound of aircraft passing overhead at 3am," Roshan Mughal, a local journalist, told Al Jazeera.

Later on Tuesday, Gajendra Singh Shekhawat, India's minister of state for agriculture, said Indian air force jets had carried out air raids on "terror camps" inside Pakistan.

"Air Force carried out aerial strike early morning today at terror camps across the LoC and Completely destroyed it," he wrote on Twitter, in the first Indian government comment on the raids.

India has repeatedly threatened military action against its neighbour Pakistan, who it blames of "controlling" a suicide attack that killed at least 42 Indian security forces personnel in the Indian-administered Kashmir on February 14.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...india-violating-airspace-190226040437318.html
 
the deliberate deception and lies are incredible. either "200-300 people were killed" or "there were no casualities or damage to infrastructure". it can't be both. we live in an age of the most advanced technology and yet we are simply asked to believe the media of whatever country we originate from without any intention of uncovering and reporting the truth. ridiculous
 
So India claiming to have carried out a strike on 'terror camps', Pakistan claiming that it was just the Indian airforce dropping their payload while escaping in a rush.

Some really outrageous claims by India, Balakot isn't really even strategically located to have that sort of camp, it's a touristy area, it's not even in AJK, and it's quite some way away from IOK.
 
Dude he has clearly given the reasoning for it.

:facepalm: why are you following 1 ignorant man who is going against the 1000 others who have reported otherwise? Is it hard to understand that IAF cannot intrude so deep into Pakistan?
If you want to believe India has attack Khyber Paktunkhwa then nobody can help you lol
 
So now you want to give away the in between 50 km land to India so that u out can claim IAF didn't come in your territory.

I didnt say they didnt intrude. I said they didnt intrude into KPK lol Even Pakistan has said Indian airforce entered 3-4 miles into the territory and bombed trees.
 
300 militants congregating in one spot lol.

Maybe it was like Gabbar ka Adda from Sholey. I can picture somebody like a Helen there dancing on Mehbooba o Mehbooba and militants flaunting their beards and enjoying themselves when the Amitabhs and Dharmendras come out of nowhere and dropping bombs on them.
 
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This should be very easy to coroborate by IAF by simply releasing the gun camera footage from its fighter jets. Alas that will never happen.
 
I didnt say they didnt intrude. I said they didnt intrude into KPK lol Even Pakistan has said Indian airforce entered 3-4 miles into the territory and bombed trees.

Its fair for you to be biased towards the words of DG ISPR, but I'm sure its fair for the other poster to be biased towards what Indian airforce says..
 
Hours and still no press conference from Indian army? Are they deciding what they will say they destroyed?
 
Some confusion over the actual location, but it seems to be Balakot KPK.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the clarification. It is indeed Muzaffarabad sector. Which would mean the original reference to Balakot is the one in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. <a href="https://t.co/B87mU7tGVH">pic.twitter.com/B87mU7tGVH</a></p>— Mosharraf Zaidi (@mosharrafzaidi) <a href="https://twitter.com/mosharrafzaidi/status/1100253006283657217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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So India claiming to have carried out a strike on 'terror camps', Pakistan claiming that it was just the Indian airforce dropping their payload while escaping in a rush.

Some really outrageous claims by India, Balakot isn't really even strategically located to have that sort of camp, it's a touristy area, it's not even in AJK, and it's quite some way away from IOK.

apparently this is a different "balakote" right on the Indian border.
 
Its fair for you to be biased towards the words of DG ISPR, but I'm sure its fair for the other poster to be biased towards what Indian airforce says..

I am not being biased here. Just trying to be logical. Do you really believe IAF attacked KPK? Thats madness.
 
I am not being biased here. Just trying to be logical. Do you really believe IAF attacked KPK? Thats madness.

Have the Indian airforce claimed that? Right now all that has been said is they crossed LOC..and Pak reached their quickly with a camera is also hard to believe but that could be coz i'm biased.
 
So India claiming to have carried out a strike on 'terror camps', Pakistan claiming that it was just the Indian airforce dropping their payload while escaping in a rush.

Some really outrageous claims by India, Balakot isn't really even strategically located to have that sort of camp, it's a touristy area, it's not even in AJK, and it's quite some way away from IOK.

The Balakot they are referring is a small village near Muzzaffarabad, Kashmir not the Balakot in KPK.
 
The place bombed was Balakote sector near Poonch, not Balakot which is a city in KPK. If a city was hit there would be tons of casualties and war would start right away
 
Have the Indian airforce claimed that? Right now all that has been said is they crossed LOC..and Pak reached their quickly with a camera is also hard to believe but that could be coz i'm biased.

Every one has mobile cam.
 
The PAF have a formidable air force of their own.

If we sent a dozen fighter jets into their territory and dropped 1000KG of ordinance, they are not going to respond with mere tweets.

Get a grip guys.
 
If the bombs dropped around 3-4 KM inside AJK, They could have been released well inside IOK airspace. An aircraft flying at 30000 ft at 500 mph would give the bombs enough forward airspeed to go that far.
We have AMRAAM armed F-16s directed by Erieye AEW aircraft that detection range over 250 Miles and missile range around 50 miles. If it was JF-17/SD-10 KE-3 combo 300 miles/45-50 miles missile range. I think the rules of engagement must be, if you shoot down you make sure the wrekage falls inside our territory. You don't want to have the scenario similar to TuAF shooting down russian plane leading to escalation.
 
Any statements from Indian defense Ministry? IAF?

Everything on Indian side seems unnamed sources and ministers of agriculture? Seems weird

In sir ji Kal strike 1 their DGMO made the announcement. Why not same in this case? Air force strikes even easier to film photograph you would think?
 
I mean we expected another drama, I guess this will help them satiate their war mongering :))
 
The place bombed was Balakote sector near Poonch, not Balakot which is a city in KPK. If a city was hit there would be tons of casualties and war would start right away

The reason the confusion occured is coz DG ISPR saying it as Balakot and not bala Kote , he should had released it that way.
 
The PAF have a formidable air force of their own.

If we sent a dozen fighter jets into their territory and dropped 1000KG of ordinance, they are not going to respond with mere tweets.

Get a grip guys.

The AEW aircraft pick up fighters as soon as they take off from Pathankot, Chandighar, Adampur, Halwara, Jissalmer, Srinagar.
 
If IAF used precision guided munition such as LGBs, they can easily release targeting footage hitting targets.
 
[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] As per Dawn:

PTI, via Twitter, linked the violation to India's upcoming elections, saying: "We realise it’s election year and [there is] a desperation across the border. Fact of the matter is, Indian jets were forced to retreat in haste by Pakistan army patrols and dumped fuel, which in their scramble they thought was a bomb."

Do you see the statement that has come, now tell me what do you think.
 
If the bombs dropped around 3-4 KM inside AJK, They could have been released well inside IOK airspace. An aircraft flying at 30000 ft at 500 mph would give the bombs enough forward airspeed to go that far.
We have AMRAAM armed F-16s directed by Erieye AEW aircraft that detection range over 250 Miles and missile range around 50 miles. If it was JF-17/SD-10 KE-3 combo 300 miles/45-50 miles missile range. I think the rules of engagement must be, if you shoot down you make sure the wrekage falls inside our territory. You don't want to have the scenario similar to TuAF shooting down russian plane leading to escalation.

Pak Army tweeted that Pak's air space was violated
 
Embarrassing for both really.

On one hand Pakistan allowed IAF into their skies without consequence and on the other hand you have India claiming they killed 200-300 militants when in reality their airforce did jack and just dropped their 'payload' on open land
 
the deliberate deception and lies are incredible. either "200-300 people were killed" or "there were no casualities or damage to infrastructure". it can't be both. we live in an age of the most advanced technology and yet we are simply asked to believe the media of whatever country we originate from without any intention of uncovering and reporting the truth. ridiculous

India is master of deception and deceit, just like Israel. There gullible awaam makes it even easier.
All India did was it killed a few Pakistani trees and ran back as soon as Pakistani fighters were in the air.
 
So has India committed an act of War or Not?

Isn't this suitable for everyone?

India claims they killed hundreds of terrorists and Pakistan claims nothing has happened.

Keeps everyone happy instead of a fully blown war!
 
The country of India with its airforce dropping anything on Pakistani soil is an act of WAR which needs to be responded in kind by the Pakistani nation.
 
the deliberate deception and lies are incredible. either "200-300 people were killed" or "there were no casualities or damage to infrastructure". it can't be both. we live in an age of the most advanced technology and yet we are simply asked to believe the media of whatever country we originate from without any intention of uncovering and reporting the truth. ridiculous

Where did you get the 200-300 casualties? I'm watching Indian channel NDTV on their website and they never claimed any number.
 
Isn't this suitable for everyone?

India claims they killed hundreds of terrorists and Pakistan claims nothing has happened.

Keeps everyone happy instead of a fully blown war!

Have no idea why are our people scared of India, They have a lot more to lose in all of this compared to Pakistan.
 
The country of India with its airforce dropping anything on Pakistani soil is an act of WAR which needs to be responded in kind by the Pakistani nation.

Agree, Pakistan must respond. Violation of airspace and striking into Pakistani territory should not be seen as a joke even if no casualties.
 
Isn't this suitable for everyone?

India claims they killed hundreds of terrorists and Pakistan claims nothing has happened.

Keeps everyone happy instead of a fully blown war!

My thoughts exactly.

The country of India with its airforce dropping anything on Pakistani soil is an act of WAR which needs to be responded in kind by the Pakistani nation.

Time to get cracking on some court cases aye!
 
Our response was sensible. There is a relative stability in Pakistan, foreign investors are showing interest and obviously India does not like it so they wanted us to retaliate to give a negative impression of our country.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndianAirForce?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndianAirForce</a> sources tell BBC that Mirage fighters took off from Ambala air base and without crossing the international border bombed designated targets. Whole exercise took 30 mins, all aircraft returned safely. Strike appears to have been on Balakot across LoC and not in KP</p>— Sanjoy Majumder (@BBCSanjoyM) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCSanjoyM/status/1100257204442144769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Have no idea why are our people scared of India, They have a lot more to lose in all of this compared to Pakistan.

Its a loss for everyone.. and you living in Canada can easily say such things. shortbread is right both countries are ok with what happened.
 
Our response was sensible. There is a relative stability in Pakistan, foreign investors are showing interest and obviously India does not like it so they wanted us to retaliate to give a negative impression of our country.

Sensible? How shameless can we be as a nation, that they will come and drop more bombs in our country and we sit back and do nothing. Everyone in India from the politicans, entertainment industry, cricketing fraternity, media has been taking a leak on our nation non-stop. If anything, this whole episode has shown us to be a spineless.

Pakistan in its bankrupt state has nothing else to lose, but a few bombs and air strikes in India on their key facilities is going to drive away all the foreign investors. India has a lot more to lose in all this compared to Pakistan. Only then will these chest thumping, vande matarum chanting brigage of Gautam Gambhir, Kangana Ranaut, Sourav Ganguly realize that War is
 
If this was all India was going to do than they could have done it a few days back and saved us from all this drama and tournaments getting canceled in their country.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndianAirForce?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndianAirForce</a> sources tell BBC that Mirage fighters took off from Ambala air base and without crossing the international border bombed designated targets. Whole exercise took 30 mins, all aircraft returned safely. Strike appears to have been on Balakot across LoC and not in KP</p>— Sanjoy Majumder (@BBCSanjoyM) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCSanjoyM/status/1100257204442144769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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https://twitter.com/BBCSanjoyM/status/1100275455658086400?s=20
 
Indian foreign service claiming this as a non military attack making sure civilians are not impacted
 

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Have no idea why are our people scared of India, They have a lot more to lose in all of this compared to Pakistan.

We have nothing to lose because we are keyboard warriors sitting miles away.

I am not brave enough to step into the battlefield or lose my life in it. Neither do I hope to see someone else do the same. Nor do I want to live near a warzone.

I hope sense prevails, at least better than the immaturity on this thread!
 
[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] As per Dawn:

PTI, via Twitter, linked the violation to India's upcoming elections, saying: "We realise it’s election year and [there is] a desperation across the border. Fact of the matter is, Indian jets were forced to retreat in haste by Pakistan army patrols and dumped fuel, which in their scramble they thought was a bomb."

Do you see the statement that has come, now tell me what do you think.

Saw this. Could be propaganda or could be partially true. Cant really say to be honest. However some sort of payload has been dropped as acknowledge by both sides. If this puts out the fire then i am all for it.

On a side note, Pakistan can use this against India in Qatar where taliban-US talks are happening. India wont find many supporters here because other nations are scared of nuclear escalation. Lets see.
 
#LeftField What if the IAF and PAF planned this beforehand to take out this rogue terrorist outfit?
 
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International border is beyond Azad Kashmir. According to news, Indians stayed within AK and bombed q few miles away
 
India needs to be taught a hard lesson on why their deliberate over reaction on the deaths of 43 soldiers (god knows if they were war criminals or not) would be something they will regret in the long run and that they would have been better of taking it in their stride and moving on.
 
Sensible? How shameless can we be as a nation, that they will come and drop more bombs in our country and we sit back and do nothing. Everyone in India from the politicans, entertainment industry, cricketing fraternity, media has been taking a leak on our nation non-stop. If anything, this whole episode has shown us to be a spineless.

Pakistan in its bankrupt state has nothing else to lose, but a few bombs and air strikes in India on their key facilities is going to drive away all the foreign investors. India has a lot more to lose in all this compared to Pakistan. Only then will these chest thumping, vande matarum chanting brigage of Gautam Gambhir, Kangana Ranaut, Sourav Ganguly realize that War is

Have they killed or injured a single Pakistani ? Dropping payload on some trees makes them look silly. There people can celebrate it all they want, that should not bother us.

And we have a lot more to lose because our international reputation is many times worse than India. The clout that India has on international media will make sure that Pakistan is depicted as an irresponsible hostile state and India as peace loving dove.
 
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Thank you. Interesting defensive statement from India. Pak has been surprisingly calm as well. If I didn't know any better, I would have said it's a joint operation to take down the psychopaths
 
Saw this. Could be propaganda or could be partially true. Cant really say to be honest. However some sort of payload has been dropped as acknowledge by both sides. If this puts out the fire then i am all for it.

On a side note, Pakistan can use this against India in Qatar where taliban-US talks are happening. India wont find many supporters here because other nations are scared of nuclear escalation. Lets see.

Yeah but Indian official word hopefully would be non-military attack.. and Pak can maintain no attack happened.
 
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So Indians didnt even cross the border? How is this different than any usual border ceasefire violation? Lol My word, Modi had fooled the nation. . . Again.
 
So the Indians don't have the balls to attack a so called terrorist training camp in Pakistan? They just want to test the waters to see if they can get away with it lol
 
1- So india is claiming they carried out the biggest successful airstrike of the 21st century, since even USA, Russia lot haven't even been able to kill 300 militants in one operation.

2- Pakistan released information of attack wherabouts, details, pics straight away. No response from india, except for articles from NDTV and some ministers.

3- Why can't india afford go-pros on their jets and have proof after these surgical strikes?
 
India needs to be taught a hard lesson on why their deliberate over reaction on the deaths of 43 soldiers (god knows if they were war criminals or not) would be something they will regret in the long run and that they would have been better of taking it in their stride and moving on.

I want that to happen more than anyone else but now is not the time. Emotional decisions bring nothing but regret, someone like Musharraf would have botched it but Imran Khan has been very sensible.
 
So Indians didnt even cross the border? How is this different than any usual border ceasefire violation? Lol My word, Modi had fooled the nation. . . Again.

Crossed LOC but not international border. That's what news indicate
 
Yeah but Indian official word hopefully would be non-military attack.. and Pak can maintain no attack happened.

Bro, lets be honest here. Whats a non-military attack? There is no such thing. You either attack another country or you dont. Sending bombs into another country's territory is a military attack. As simple as that. And India has done it unilaterally without consent of international community.
Pakistan is not saying no attack happened. They have said attack happened but it didnt cause any casualties. Its hard to believe but Pakistan is finally playing it smarter than India. Modi is making a real big mess.
 
Have they killed or injured a single Pakistani ? Dropping payload on some trees makes them look silly. There people can celebrate it all they want, that should not bother us.

And we have a lot more to lose because our international reputation is many times worse than India. The clout that India has on international media will make sure that Pakistan is depicted as an irresponsible hostile state and India as peace loving dove.

What clout exactly? Their calls to isolate and implicate Pakistan have failed in the past and have failed right now, India is the one attacking first and violating our sovereinty and threatening our existence. Pakistan has zero money to lose but India has plenty to lose.
 
So Indians didnt even cross the border? How is this different than any usual border ceasefire violation? Lol My word, Modi had fooled the nation. . . Again.

Which is true but Defence Ministry-IAF didn't release anything like that.
 
1- So india is claiming they carried out the biggest successful airstrike of the 21st century, since even USA, Russia lot haven't even been able to kill 300 militants in one operation.

2- Pakistan released information of attack wherabouts, details, pics straight away. No response from india, except for articles from NDTV and some ministers.

3- Why can't india afford go-pros on their jets and have proof after these surgical strikes?

1000 kg bombs surely would make a crater don't u think. They were pictures of dirt
 
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