PAF chases away Indian jets after LoC airspace violation

[Varun]

Thank you. Interesting defensive statement from India. Pak has been surprisingly calm as well. If I didn't know any better, I would have said it's a joint operation to take down the psychopaths

Hoping for this to be the case. Don't care if the naive populace on both sides of the border are none the wiser this morning.

 

[rhony]

You need to stop embarrasing Pakistan with your illinformed comments. They fired from behind the international border right over balakot and were then chased out.

They crossed LOC. That's Pakistan territory and that has been claimed by Pak.army. India violated LOC

 

[JaDed]

Bro, lets be honest here. Whats a non-military attack? There is no such thing. You either attack another country or you dont. Sending bombs into another country's territory is a military attack. As simple as that. And India has done it unilaterally without consent of international community.
Pakistan is not saying no attack happened. They have said attack happened but it didnt cause any casualties. Its hard to believe but Pakistan is finally playing it smarter than India. Modi is making a real big mess.

.. Modi's diplomatic cloud is obviously lesser than that of Congress coz of backing of liberals across the world, right wing leaders will never have takers in western media..same for Turkey and India.

Thats just my opinion and I'm not a fan of his, I could be wrong.

 

[rhony]

Hoping for this to be the case. Don't care if the naive populace on both sides of the border are none the wiser this morning.

Deniability from Pak, Chest thumping from India and both countries win if they've eliminated Terrorists. They are not useful for anyone anymore.

 

[Sycamore]

Isn't this suitable for everyone?

India claims they killed hundreds of terrorists and Pakistan claims nothing has happened.

Keeps everyone happy instead of a fully blown war!

Not suitable for Pakistan you can't have your neighboring hostile countries invading your airspace and dropping fuel tanks on trees, even if it is for propaganda. Pakistan definitely losing points in this incident. Pakistan can't retaliate straight away as indians will be ready now.

 

[Savak]

I wonder if China will allow India to get into a war with Pakistan? Will the US want India to attack Pakistan given that they need Pakistan for Afghanistan right now. What about the Saudi's? What will the Arab states decide in the event of an Indo Pakistan conflict? Its one thing for them to have very good ties with India but can they support India in the event of a conflict with Pakistan? Afghanistan can claim to be as anti Pakistan as they want but will they side against us?

India's perception of its global influence can be summed up in the following "Extremely over rated and severely deluded"

 

[MenInG]

India's Foreign Secretary VK Gokhale on Tuesday, while addressing a press conference, claimed that the country's air force "struck the biggest training camp of Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) in Balakot".

"A large number of JeM terrorists were killed. The strike avoided civil casualties," he added.

Early on Tuesday, Inter-Services Public Relations' (ISPR) Major-General Asif Ghafoor said that Indian military planes violated the Line of Control (LoC), intruding from the Muzaffarabad sector.

"Credible intel was received that JeM was planning more suicide attacks in India," he alleged. "In the face of imminent danger, a preemptive strike became absolutely necessary.

"Top commanders were eliminated in the strike," he said, adding "the action took place just hours ago".

https://www.dawn.com/news/1466149/i...truck-biggest-training-camp-of-jem-in-balakot

 

[Pakistanian]

They crossed LOC. That's Pakistan territory and that has been claimed by Pak.army. India violated LOC

and the airforce chased them out, what else does he want them to do lol. Escalating this would've been pointless.

 

[Madplayer]

Crossed LOC but not international border. That's what news indicate

In short they didnt enter foreign territory. But can you see how media is presenting it and how an average Indian is reacting to it? If you are a smart person you will see what Modi is doing. Its ridiculous how he is winning this election.

The story has changed from India attacked KPK, to India attacked bala kote in Poonch, to India violated air space for few miles to India didnt enter Pakistan's territory and it was a "non-military" attack whatever that means. This is embarrassing to say the least and i am not saying this because i have a problem with your forces. It just is embarrassing.

 

[Tiger96]

Top Jaish commanders were eliminated in the strikes )

 

[JaDed]

In short they didnt enter foreign territory. But can you see how media is presenting it and how an average Indian is reacting to it? If you are a smart person you will see what Modi is doing. Its ridiculous how he is winning this election.

The story has changed from India attacked KPK, to India attacked bala kote in Poonch, to India violated air space for few miles to India didnt enter Pakistan's territory and it was a "non-military" attack whatever that means. This is embarrassing to say the least and i am not saying this because i have a problem with your forces. It just is embarrassing.

Naw its just that everyone should had waited for statemetns from IAF and Defense ministry, tbf DG ISPR hyped it more when he said India violated the airspace, official statement from him and Indian media did the trick, no word from IAF-Defense ministry all this time.

 

[Greenstorm]

What clout exactly? Their calls to isolate and implicate Pakistan have failed in the past and have failed right now, India is the one attacking first and violating our sovereinty and threatening our existence. Pakistan has zero money to lose but India has plenty to lose.

Just look at the biased reporting carried out by BBC, CNN, DW etc on Pakistan. Why don't they report on Kashmir ? They failed to isolate Pakistan because we successfully fought with the TTP, caught Kulbhushans and brought stability in our country. All this will be undermined if we do something silly and India is waiting for it.

 

[Sycamore]

India's Foreign Secretary VK Gokhale on Tuesday, while addressing a press conference, claimed that the country's air force "struck the biggest training camp of Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) in Balakot".

"A large number of JeM terrorists were killed. The strike avoided civil casualties," he added.

Early on Tuesday, Inter-Services Public Relations' (ISPR) Major-General Asif Ghafoor said that Indian military planes violated the Line of Control (LoC), intruding from the Muzaffarabad sector.

"Credible intel was received that JeM was planning more suicide attacks in India," he alleged. "In the face of imminent danger, a preemptive strike became absolutely necessary.

"Top commanders were eliminated in the strike," he said, adding "the action took place just hours ago".

https://www.dawn.com/news/1466149/i...truck-biggest-training-camp-of-jem-in-balakot

laughable really. Lets say they did kill militants, how did they identify each and every individual as a terrorist? How did they confirm Top commanders were eliminated? Jeez this is worse than a movie script

 

[Greenstorm]

1000 kg bombs surely would make a crater don't u think. They were pictures of dirt

There were no 1000 kg bombs. Thats all disinformation and propaganda.

 

[rhony]

In short they didnt enter foreign territory. But can you see how media is presenting it and how an average Indian is reacting to it? If you are a smart person you will see what Modi is doing. Its ridiculous how he is winning this election.

The story has changed from India attacked KPK, to India attacked bala kote in Poonch, to India violated air space for few miles to India didnt enter Pakistan's territory and it was a "non-military" attack whatever that means. This is embarrassing to say the least and i am not saying this because i have a problem with your forces. It just is embarrassing.

News indicate that India crossed LOC. That's foreign territory. Non military attack is because it wasn't targeting civilians. Modi winning or not remains to be seen and is not even a discussion. Pak's response is very measured and either this is an agreed upon resolution with US as a mediator or Pak was privy to this

 

[Savak]

India's Foreign Secretary VK Gokhale on Tuesday, while addressing a press conference, claimed that the country's air force "struck the biggest training camp of Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) in Balakot".

"A large number of JeM terrorists were killed. The strike avoided civil casualties," he added.

Early on Tuesday, Inter-Services Public Relations' (ISPR) Major-General Asif Ghafoor said that Indian military planes violated the Line of Control (LoC), intruding from the Muzaffarabad sector.

"Credible intel was received that JeM was planning more suicide attacks in India," he alleged. "In the face of imminent danger, a preemptive strike became absolutely necessary.

"Top commanders were eliminated in the strike," he said, adding "the action took place just hours ago".

https://www.dawn.com/news/1466149/i...truck-biggest-training-camp-of-jem-in-balakot

Proof? Any way independent Western reporters can confirm this?

 

[rhony]

Naw its just that everyone should had waited for statemetns from IAF and Defense ministry, tbf DG ISPR hyped it more when he said India violated the airspace, official statement from him and Indian media did the trick, no word from IAF-Defense ministry all this time.

It's DG ISPR's reaction and confirmation that's shocking. There is deniability about the target but not about breach of air space and bombing.

 

[Rathore]

IAF fighters shouldnt have returned in one piece very embarrassing if they return safely. i think PAF restrained otherwise things would have gone really bad! but some time u have retaliate or it shows weakness and this was time to retaliate.

 

[rhony]

India is claiming it's Balakot KPK where they hit the biggest Jaish camp

 

[Gullycricket]

IAF fighters shouldnt have returned in one piece very embarrassing if they return safely. i think PAF restrained otherwise things would have gone really bad! but some time u have retaliate or it shows weakness and this was time to retaliate.

Inspite of Pak knowing this would happen and being on high alert.I mean Turkey shot down Russian plane within 17 sec of violating airspace and here an entire squadron comes

 

[rhony]

ISLAMABAD/NEW DELHI: Indian jets crossed into Pakistani territory on Tuesday, conducting what one minister said was an air strike on “terror camps,” dramatically escalating tensions between the nuclear-armed neighbors who have fought three wars against each other.
The confrontation follows a growing rift between the arch-foes since a Feb. 14 suicide bombing in the disputed Kashmir region, claimed by a Pakistani-based militant group, killed at least 40 Indian paramilitary police. New Delhi blamed Islamabad, which denies having a role in the attack.
Pakistan downplayed Tuesday’s incident, saying there were no casualties and that Indian jets “released a payload” hastily in a forest area after crossing Kashmir’s Line of Control (LoC), which acts as a de facto border between the two countries.
“Air Force carried out aerial strike early morning today at terror camps across the LoC (Line of Control) and Completely destroyed it,” India’s minister of state for agriculture, Gajendra Singh Shekhawat, said on Twitter.
Pakistan’s military confirmed Indian aircraft violated its airspace but said “no infrastructure got hit.”
“Indian aircrafts intruded from Muzafarabad sector,” Pakistani military spokesman Major General Asif Ghafoor said on Twitter early on Tuesday, referring to an area in the Pakistan-administered part of Kashmir.
Ghafoor said “facing timely and effective response from Pakistan Air Force,” the Indian aircraft “released payload in haste while escaping which fell near Balakot. No casualties or damage.”
Ghafoor, saying that more information would be released, tweeted four pictures of the alleged site where Indian aircraft dropped a payload near Balakot, purportedly showing a bomb crater in a forest area but no serious damage.
Balakot, a town in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province in Pakistan, is about 50 km (30 miles) from the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir, which was the cause of two of the three wars India and Pakistan have fought since the end of British colonial rule in 1947.
Analysts have alleged Pakistani militants have their training camps in the area, although Pakistan has always denied the presence of any such camps.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1458231/world

 

[Savak]

Inspite of Pak knowing this would happen and being on high alert.I mean Turkey shot down Russian plane within 17 sec of violating airspace and here an entire squadron comes

I know, extremely disgraceful stuff by Pakistan. I am most ashamed by our spineless PCB Chairman and Spineless ex Cricketing community who have not said anything Miandad style at all to the Indian Cricketing Community.

 

[Rathore]

Inspite of Pak knowing this would happen and being on high alert.I mean Turkey shot down Russian plane within 17 sec of violating airspace and here an entire squadron comes

Exactly you know whats the biggest cost of this stunt of not doing anything?? now we cant say "india cant attack us bcz we r a nuclear power" . they just did n we did nothing although that was just symbolic attack u make hinduvta mindset happy but still it was violation. let see what happens next!

 

[Dr_Bassim]

You need to stop embarrasing Pakistan with your illinformed comments. They fired from behind the international border right over balakot and were then chased out.

I don't know about you but usually when some incursion occurs in another country's territory, the planes don't make it back.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Pakistan simply cannot afford to retaliate here, it could escalate to a huge Indian response, it would be madness...

 

[Sycamore]

Pakistan simply cannot afford to retaliate here, it could escalate to a huge Indian response, it would be madness...

Would be foolish to retaliate atm since India is on alert now.

 

[Madplayer]

Naw its just that everyone should had waited for statemetns from IAF and Defense ministry, tbf DG ISPR hyped it more when he said India violated the airspace, official statement from him and Indian media did the trick, no word from IAF-Defense ministry all this time.

Yes you are right to be honest. Official statements are what matter at the end of the day.

News indicate that India crossed LOC. That's foreign territory. Non military attack is because it wasn't targeting civilians. Modi winning or not remains to be seen and is not even a discussion. Pak's response is very measured and either this is an agreed upon resolution with US as a mediator or Pak was privy to this

By foreign territory i mean Pakistan's territory.
There is no such things as a Non-military attack. You bomb another country without its consent, it is a military attack.
Obviously Modi will win now. Just see the reaction. It is a discussion because why do you think all of this is happening? You yourself said that you think even pulwama was a false flag.
Yes could be a pre-agreed operation. But what would India have given Pakistan in return?

 

[Romali_rotti]

We are definitely living in times of major uncertainty, this is more of a warning by India, I wouldn't rule out a war in the future. I never in my wildest dreams thought of a potential war between India and Pakistan and I hope it will never come to that, however I am no longer sure...

 

[Savak]

Lol so India went into a fight with a pellet gun and ran away asap. What a brave nation.

 

[Savak]

We are definitely living in times of major uncertainty, this is more of a warning by India, I wouldn't rule out a war in the future. I never in my wildest dreams thought of a potential war between India and Pakistan and I hope it will never come to that, however I am no longer sure...

Foreign investors in India are going to warn Modi that if he dares do this, they are all going to wind up and leave India in a second.

 

[rhony]

Yes you are right to be honest. Official statements are what matter at the end of the day.



By foreign territory i mean Pakistan's territory.
There is no such things as a Non-military attack. You bomb another country without its consent, it is a military attack.
Obviously Modi will win now. Just see the reaction. It is a discussion because why do you think all of this is happening? You yourself said that you think even pulwama was a false flag.
Yes could be a pre-agreed operation. But what would India have given Pakistan in return?

Yes I said the plulwama incident doesn't help Pak one bit and India has everything to gain. That's why I discounted any military strike by India because they already got what they wanted. But this is all beyond comprehension to me. How can India risk bombing Pak territory just for an election. There is also no retaliation rhetoric from Pak. Pak is unusually poised and that too after confirming the strikes. This could be a mutually agreed upon solution but how does it help Pak? Is this a US backed solution along with help from Pak in Afg for foreign aid or other perks? How can India attack after US mediation otherwise especially with US India tarriffs in question. Trump has a lot of ego and undermining him will not help India.

 

[Savak]

Pakistan simply cannot afford to retaliate here, it could escalate to a huge Indian response, it would be madness...

India can afford to initiate but Pakistan cannot afford to attack? Maybe the country of India and its arrogant people need to be taught a lesson that deliberately over reacting and behaving disproportionately to the deaths of 43 soldiers (God knows if they were innocent or war criminals) has consequences.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Pakistan is the bigger loser if a war starts.

Its just my own opinion.

Because right now, Imran Khan is trying for economic reforms and changes in country's economy and if the country goes to war, it will lose all the foreign investments and again we will go back 10 years.

Pakistan has to exercise restraint and think long term instead of appeasing a few "patriotic Pakistanis" in short term revenge.

 

[Madplayer]

Yes I said the plulwama incident doesn't help Pak one bit and India has everything to gain. That's why I discounted any military strike by India because they already got what they wanted. But this is all beyond comprehension to me. How can India risk bombing Pak territory just for an election. There is also no retaliation rhetoric from Pak. Pak is unusually poised and that too after confirming the strikes. This could be a mutually agreed upon solution but how does it help Pak? Is this a US backed solution along with help from Pak in Afg for foreign aid or other perks? How can India attack after US mediation otherwise especially with US India tarriffs in question. Trump has a lot of ego and undermining him will not help India.

Its a bit mind bending. I think it will become apparent in next few days or months what Pakistan will gain from it if it was indeed agreed upon.

However, Pakistan admitting that this attack took place casts more doubt on surgical strike 1 as well. Because that time they didnt accept that it took place.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

You want war without understanding what "war entails."

 

[Majid Khan]

What happened to the ‘befitting response if there is any misadventure’ that we were hearing about for days ?

 

[Varun]

We are definitely living in times of major uncertainty, this is more of a warning by India, I wouldn't rule out a war in the future. I never in my wildest dreams thought of a potential war between India and Pakistan and I hope it will never come to that, however I am no longer sure...

Seriously? The two aunties have only fought like 4 so far.

 

[JaDed]

Seriously? The two aunties have only fought like 4 so far.

Nothing major in our lifetime, Kargil at best was proxyish. My grandfather was part of 1965 and not great time for families just letting you know.

 

[Rathore]

You want war without understanding what "war entails."

india seem to want war but if u want to bend over to indians it just u

 

[rhony]

So far I have not seen a single country condemn the violation of Pak air space. Pak's reaction is subdued. Welcome to the world of international political mystery

 

[Akki malhotra]

Even at this age. Whole Truth can never come out. We are made to believe anything through media.
Even we did attack Pakistan. I am sure mirch masala would be added to hyper this and do whole lot of chest thumping during coming elections.

 

[Sycamore]

Pakistan is the bigger loser if a war starts.

Its just my own opinion.

Because right now, Imran Khan is trying for economic reforms and changes in country's economy and if the country goes to war, it will lose all the foreign investments and again we will go back 10 years.

Pakistan has to exercise restraint and think long term instead of appeasing a few "patriotic Pakistanis" in short term revenge.

agreed, pakistan missed its chance, they were in Pak airspace and should've been shot down. No point in endangering soldiers to appease keyboard warriors.

 

[rhony]

India to stop Azhar rhetoric. Pak to help US in afg. Us to sell more arms to India. Pak to get massive foreign aid. Let's see if any of these happen in the near future.

 

[Runner Up]

Bunch of fools. Everyone has a mobile phone these days. Where are the footage of dead bodies, injured people. I am sure injured people would have been shifted to hospitals.

 

[Greenstorm]

india seem to want war but if u want to bend over to indians it just u

They did not even injured a single Pakistani in this incident, so no need for a disproportionate reaction . Our Soldiers and civilians actually get killed weekly due to ceasefire violations on LOC but no one blinks an eye.

 

[JaDed]

So far I have not seen a single country condemn the violation of Pak air space. Pak's reaction is subdued. Welcome to the world of international political mystery

I think after Azhar Masood China and Crimea -Russia and Yemen throughout the year nothing really surprises me over international politics although tbf europe is just going to wake up and America is sleeping.
Gnite from myside hopefully nothing happens by the time i'm awake.

 

[Thomaskutty]

This is highly embarrassing for Pakistan in how the IAF jets just strolled across their sovereign border and just casually bombed their regions without any interception. Echoes of the 2011 raid..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistan is the bigger loser if a war starts.

Its just my own opinion.

Because right now, Imran Khan is trying for economic reforms and changes in country's economy and if the country goes to war, it will lose all the foreign investments and again we will go back 10 years.

Pakistan has to exercise restraint and think long term instead of appeasing a few "patriotic Pakistanis" in short term revenge.

That, and also it is the BJP and Modi who need conflict more than Imran Khan's govt. Pakistan has just secured a bunch of loans from Saudi and China, the last thing they need is to have to fund a military escalation unless it is absolutely necessary. The need for a critical response would depend on if there was any major damage inflicted or casualties, none of that has been confirmed as yet.

 

[K4Kohli]

The reality can be anything from a lot of causalities to none but we will never know. But one thing we know is that Indian air force crossed and dropped bombs on Pakistan soil.

 

[IAJ]

You are quoting Indian sources jus coz the map alone right not for the news?

india seem to want war but if u want to bend over to indians it just u

Lol, India took 10 days to cross the LOC for a few miles. Of course Pakistan will reply. They are not going to be stupid like Indians and yell loudly about counter-attack. They will do it without anyone knowing and they will also try to not talk high about it.

 

[Manager101]

Humans of modern age don't know what a terrible nightmare a full fledge war can initiate.

Not a single individual can escape its wrath.

 

[cric_man]

India to stop Azhar rhetoric. Pak to help US in afg. Us to sell more arms to India. Pak to get massive foreign aid. Let's see if any of these happen in the near future.

And Modi wins his re-election thumping his 56 inch chest

 

[Rathore]

They did not even injured a single Pakistani in this incident, so no need for a disproportionate reaction . Our soldiers and civilians actually get killed weekly due to ceasefire violations on LOC but no one blinks an eye.

They violates our airspace n dropped bombs inside Pakistan for this first time since 1971 why i am sounding so crazy to some of u or u really dnt seem to understand the situation here!

 

[Bilal7]

It is clear that India is acting like the terrorist nation here. Imagine if the PAF had gone and dropped bombs in Indian territory in response.

There is no need for a response. If knocking over a bunch of trees calms the Hindu nationalists down, so be it. Pakistan should move on.

 

[emranabbas]

This is highly embarrassing for Pakistan in how the IAF jets just strolled across their sovereign border and just casually bombed their regions without any interception. Echoes of the 2011 raid..

Nothing to be embarrassed about some kids knocking the door and running away

I'm sure if happened to you many times when school kids knock your door and run away before you open it

 

[Azzurri]

I’m happy that Pak Air Force didn’t retaliate. We don’t need to get into any kind of war unless it’s an absolute necessity. Let them do the chest thumping and sleep in peace.

 

[Greenstorm]

They violates our airspace n dropped bombs inside Pakistan for this first time since 1971 why i am sounding so crazy to some of u or u really dnt seem to understand the situation here!

They violated our airspace few years back only to run away like this. Dropping 'bomb' on few trees means nothing. They wanted us to retaliate but we were sensible.

 

[IAJ]

They violates our airspace n dropped bombs inside Pakistan for this first time since 1971 why i am sounding so crazy to some of u or u really dnt seem to understand the situation here!

I understand you. The response will come. Don’t worry. They will not even know what hit them. Listen to Ali Mohammad.

 

[Azzurri]

They violates our airspace n dropped bombs inside Pakistan for this first time since 1971 why i am sounding so crazy to some of u or u really dnt seem to understand the situation here!

Relax mate. You think doing this mean they can also enter further in Pakistan and drop bombs whenever they want? People will dry on millions this time of war starts. And our response would have started a war. Atleast we tried practically to give peace a chance. I’m sure another act like this by India and the war will broke out.

 

[asifp]

The reality is none of us sitting behind computers will know the truth.

I love how people sitting behind laptops, scream of nationalism and war. Why don't they just join the army themselves?

Anyways, this fits the narrative of both countries

1. India will claim it killed xyx, bombed xyx. Media will pump the chest. Govt will say this is New India, it strikes back. Modi wins the election

2. Pakistan will claim nothing has happened, so there is no need to talk about it. India try to come across the border were chased way. Imran will say this is Naya Pakistan and he has much more important things to look after

So in essence no one will know the truth. Few months down the line, BBC will investigate and find out the truth is somewhere in the middle and by then all will be forgotten.

To be frank, this was less of a strike on Pakistan, or JEM, but more of a strike on the Indian Opposition. Game Set Match BJP

 

[Bilal7]

They violates our airspace n dropped bombs inside Pakistan for this first time since 1971 why i am sounding so crazy to some of u or u really dnt seem to understand the situation here!

No big deal and not worth starting a war over. Trees do not matter as much as humans and to be honest, the fact that they **** their pants as soon as the PAF scrambled their own jets tells you everything about the situation.

 

[Pakpak]

The reality is none of us sitting behind computers will know the truth.

I love how people sitting behind laptops, scream of nationalism and war. Why don't they just join the army themselves?

Anyways, this fits the narrative of both countries

1. India will claim it killed xyx, bombed xyx. Media will pump the chest. Govt will say this is New India, it strikes back. Modi wins the election

2. Pakistan will claim nothing has happened, so there is no need to talk about it. India try to come across the border were chased way. Imran will say this is Naya Pakistan and he has much more important things to look after

So in essence no one will know the truth. Few months down the line, BBC will investigate and find out the truth is somewhere in the middle and by then all will be forgotten.

To be frank, this was less of a strike on Pakistan, or JEM, but more of a strike on the Indian Opposition. Game Set Match BJP

Pretty much summed it upto perfection.

 

[Madplayer]

The reality is none of us sitting behind computers will know the truth.

I love how people sitting behind laptops, scream of nationalism and war. Why don't they just join the army themselves?

Anyways, this fits the narrative of both countries

1. India will claim it killed xyx, bombed xyx. Media will pump the chest. Govt will say this is New India, it strikes back. Modi wins the election

2. Pakistan will claim nothing has happened, so there is no need to talk about it. India try to come across the border were chased way. Imran will say this is Naya Pakistan and he has much more important things to look after

So in essence no one will know the truth. Few months down the line, BBC will investigate and find out the truth is somewhere in the middle and by then all will be forgotten.

To be frank, this was less of a strike on Pakistan, or JEM, but more of a strike on the Indian Opposition. Game Set Match BJP

Well said.

 

[Mr.Q]

Just came here to see what the reactions are like. As expected people are arguing without understanding the context.

Everyone knew India was going to hit back. What does India mean by a non-military attack? India carrried out an operation without attacking or damaging the Pak military installations (unless of course JeM is seen as a military installation by the Pak army) . India decided to hit the JeM directly instead of taking on the Pakistani army, which is good.

India and Pakistan are doing the right things. India is claiming that they have carried out a non military operation and Pakistan is downplaying it because they can’t claim any material damage to itself or the civilians. Good for both countries.

 

[Madplayer]

Now that India has destroyed terrorist havens, there is no need for Indian army in Kashmir and its time to revole draconian laws like AFSPA.

 

[a_tahir]

Now that India has destroyed terrorist havens, there is no need for Indian army in Kashmir and its time to revole draconian laws like AFSPA.

"Destroyed"

Rip to the Fallen Trees

 

[ahsan17]

Why are some people overreacting? Airspace violations are commonplace, should one start a war every time there is an airspace violation for a few seconds? Yes they dropped some duds on the ground, but come on, starting a war over what is basically a non-event is non-sensical.

 

[Madplayer]

"Destroyed"

Rip to the Fallen Trees

 

[Varun]

The reality is none of us sitting behind computers will know the truth.

I love how people sitting behind laptops, scream of nationalism and war. Why don't they just join the army themselves?

Anyways, this fits the narrative of both countries

1. India will claim it killed xyx, bombed xyx. Media will pump the chest. Govt will say this is New India, it strikes back. Modi wins the election

2. Pakistan will claim nothing has happened, so there is no need to talk about it. India try to come across the border were chased way. Imran will say this is Naya Pakistan and he has much more important things to look after

So in essence no one will know the truth. Few months down the line, BBC will investigate and find out the truth is somewhere in the middle and by then all will be forgotten.

To be frank, this was less of a strike on Pakistan, or JEM, but more of a strike on the Indian Opposition. Game Set Match BJP

Quoted for truth.

 

[ravisurya]

Now that India has destroyed terrorist havens, there is no need for Indian army in Kashmir and its time to revole draconian laws like AFSPA.

So you people agree on terrorists havens being harbored and protected in Pakistan?

 

[Bhaijaan]

The reality is none of us sitting behind computers will know the truth.

I love how people sitting behind laptops, scream of nationalism and war. Why don't they just join the army themselves?

Anyways, this fits the narrative of both countries

1. India will claim it killed xyx, bombed xyx. Media will pump the chest. Govt will say this is New India, it strikes back. Modi wins the election

2. Pakistan will claim nothing has happened, so there is no need to talk about it. India try to come across the border were chased way. Imran will say this is Naya Pakistan and he has much more important things to look after

So in essence no one will know the truth. Few months down the line, BBC will investigate and find out the truth is somewhere in the middle and by then all will be forgotten.

To be frank, this was less of a strike on Pakistan, or JEM, but more of a strike on the Indian Opposition. Game Set Match BJP

Spot on.

That's exactly what this is all about.

With elections due in couple of months, BJP leaders will boast about this in every rally claiming how 'Naya Bharat' under PM Modi means business and give muh-tod jawab to Pakistan unlike the puarana Bharat under weak Congress party.

We can all move on from this. BJP won't. Neither will their paid media.

Arnab Gowswami, Zee News, Times Now will be on a roll today.

 

[a_tahir]

haha, you need to read some international reporting, rather than the Tauba Tauba media you get over there.

Read BBC news's article "Surgical strike: a truth or illusion"

 

[Manager101]

"Destroyed"

Rip to the Fallen Trees

Pakistan should make a movie "Revenge of the Fallen Trees".

 

[a_tahir]

Why are some people overreacting? Airspace violations are commonplace, should one start a war every time there is an airspace violation for a few seconds? Yes they dropped some duds on the ground, but come on, starting a war over what is basically a non-event is non-sensical.

Pakistan needs to take revenge.
RIP to the 10 Fallen Trees.
We got have gotten a lot more oxygen and less global warming would have happened.
Hamlay ka matlab badla.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Brilliant stuff. Modi is no Manmohan Singh...woh chorne wala nehi. Ghar me ghuske badla lega.

Meanwhile Pakistanis can claim false flag

 

[Jin Chacha]

There seems to be a strange shift in Indian attitude towards Kashmir. Pakistan's policy has always been to bring the Kashmir issue into international limelight whether by talking about it in international forums or by supporting separatists. In fact the whole Kargil adventure was an attempt to 'internationalise' the Kashmir dispute. Now it seems India itself is bringing the issue into international limelight as a nuclear flashpoint. Dont know of it is domestic electoral politics or a real shift in foreign policy.

 

[Adijazz1706]

The reality is none of us sitting behind computers will know the truth.

I love how people sitting behind laptops, scream of nationalism and war. Why don't they just join the army themselves?

Anyways, this fits the narrative of both countries

1. India will claim it killed xyx, bombed xyx. Media will pump the chest. Govt will say this is New India, it strikes back. Modi wins the election

2. Pakistan will claim nothing has happened, so there is no need to talk about it. India try to come across the border were chased way. Imran will say this is Naya Pakistan and he has much more important things to look after

So in essence no one will know the truth. Few months down the line, BBC will investigate and find out the truth is somewhere in the middle and by then all will be forgotten.

To be frank, this was less of a strike on Pakistan, or JEM, but more of a strike on the Indian Opposition. Game Set Match BJP

POTW right here

 

[Madplayer]

So you people agree on terrorists havens being harbored and protected in Pakistan?

You people? Lel. i am talking about what India is claiming. If your terrorists are dead, then take your army out of Kashmir.

 

[shaaik]

Indian aircraft violate LoC, scramble back after PAF's timely response: ISPR

Indian military planes violated the Line of Control (LoC), intruding from the Muzaffarabad sector, Director-General Inter-Services Public Relations Major-General Asif Ghafoor said on his official Twitter account early on Tuesday.

Maj-Gen Ghafoor in his tweet said "Indian Air Force violated Line of Control", following which "Pakistan Air Force immediately scrambled" and Indian aircraft went back.

He later added that the aircraft faced "timely and effective response from Pakistan Air Force" and ended up releasing "payload in haste while escaping which fell near Balakot". Payload is the carrying capacity of an aircraft, which is usually measured in terms of weight. This could include cargo, passengers, an explosive warhead or any instruments.

No casualties or damage occurred, the military spokesperson said.

In another tweet, he said that "Indian aircrafts’ intrusion across LoC in Muzaffarabad Sector within AJ&K was 3-4 miles".

Technical details and other important information to follow, he added.

PTI, via Twitter, linked the violation to India's upcoming elections, saying: "We realise it’s election year and [there is] a desperation across the border. Fact of the matter is, Indian jets were forced to retreat in haste by Pakistan army patrols and dumped fuel, which in their scramble they thought was a bomb."

Pulwama aftermath
Ties between Pakistan and India have been tense since a suicide bombing in occupied Kashmir killed over 40 Indian soldiers, with New Delhi blaming Pakistan of being complicit in the attack — a charge Islamabad has denied vehemently and from the get-go.

In response to India's allegations, Prime Minister Imran Khan promised New Delhi to conduct an investigation if provided “actionable evidence” but also warned that Pakistan will "retaliate" if attacked. The Pakistan army has also warned India to avoid "any misadventure", saying it could have dangerous consequences.

On the other hand, while Jaish-e-Muhammad had claimed responsibility for the attack, New Delhi immediately blamed Islamabad and also announced that it would launch a diplomatic offensive to isolate Pakistan in the international community.

Furthermore, India has scrapped the Most Favoured Nation status granted to Pakistan and has imposed a 200 per cent customs duty on its goods, barring the exports of tomatoes to Pakistan and denying visas to Pakistani athletes.

The international community has expressed alarm over the situation and as Delhi is ratcheting up regional tensions, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has also cancelled his scheduled official trip to Japan.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1466038/i...scramble-back-after-pafs-timely-response-ispr

 

[ravisurya]

If a few rundown Indian aircraft who managed to flee the moment Pakistan attacked them was all it took to get rid of the "Jaish" …

Then why has India waited for 20 years to hunt them down?

Your lack of intelligence in this matter is as befitting as Modi and his bizarre actions.

Unlike previous Govts. this one is willing to act against Pakistan sponsored terrorist organizations and also how come IF PAF did attack they could do nothing to the IAF jets??