PAF chases away Indian jets after LoC airspace violation

[AMSS]

The person claimed 1 injury, not 200-300 deaths.

No idea about casualties. Nobody is ever going to find that out.

However, it's pretty much clear now that the attack itself took place in KPK and not near LoC as claimed by ISPR.

There are a number of tweets from residents in that area now claiming they heard jets flying at around 3-4 AM.

 

[ahsan17]

No idea about casualties. Nobody is ever going to find that out.

However, it's pretty much clear now that the attack itself took place in KPK and not near LoC as claimed by ISPR.

There are a number of tweets from residents in that area now claiming they heard jets flying at around 3-4 AM.

There would be a much bigger medical response locally if there were 200-300 deaths.

 

[AMSS]

his is the summary of what he is saying

1. He is resident of Jabba and does zamindaria ( farming) [ Jabba is in Azad Kashmir and not in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa ]
2. The blasts happened near a place called Kaggar Kattha/Kangar , which is also Azad Kashmir
3. The sound of jets lasted about 10 minutes before going silent
4. 5 loud blasts were heard
5. His relative lives near Kaggar Kattha/Kangar and there 4 or 5 houses got damaged and 1 person got injured.

This account is believable , yes it confirms that India did an intrusion but all the claims about camps and what not are just that , they are bull crap

This modi pig has over estimated himself this time , this will have consequences for india

Like I replied before, I have no idea about casualties. Only that the local residents and BBC urdu have confirmed the IAF claims that attack took place in KPK and there 4-5 bombs dropped.

DG ISPR of Pakistan has been economical with truth.

 

[Zahid87]

We’ll never know what really happened. But if another country is saying we have attacked another country’s territory; what should Pakistan do here? Be silent and laugh away or respond to it?

Laughing away allows both sides to close things with their heads held high. This is what the rest of the world will be telling Pakistan. Escalation can lead to disaster for everyone.

 

[Majid Khan]

Pakistan should respond diplomatically by getting China on board and getting UN Security Council to condemn this as a violation of international law by India, or else pull out from UN if sovereignty of a member country is not respected.

 

[saeed5646]

Like I replied before, I have no idea about casualties. Only that the local residents and BBC urdu have confirmed the IAF claims that attack took place in KPK and there 4-5 bombs dropped.

DG ISPR of Pakistan has been economical with truth.

oh BBC urdu the new angel for you guys.There are known for there anti pakistan in media .Remember the ND tv when pulwama attack happen and you guys were keep mentioning there past record.

i live near manesera and have relative near oghi who have denied any incident there

 

[AMSS]

If the attack was inside KPK as the reports and locals suggest then big shame on the ISPR , PAF to let go the planes back to India unharmed.

BBC urdu interviewed this local

https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1100315633273647104

 

[Madplayer]

Like I replied before, I have no idea about casualties. Only that the local residents and BBC urdu have confirmed the IAF claims that attack took place in KPK and there 4-5 bombs dropped.

DG ISPR of Pakistan has been economical with truth.

Have you followed previous "news" of BBC urdu about Pakistan? Lol they are anti-Pakistan and have been spewing venom since a long long time.

 

[Varun]

Pakistan should respond diplomatically by getting China on board and getting UN Security Council to condemn this as a violation of international law by India, or else pull out from UN if sovereignty of a member country is not respected.

Off-topic, but the world learned its lessons after the League of Nations fiasco between WW1 and WW2. The UN has a couple of claws - the IMF and the World Bank and a country can't 'leave'' the UN unless they repay all dues to these two organizations, among others.

Sovereignty of members is a joke anyway. Look at what happened to Iraq, Libya et al.

 

[AMSS]

Have you followed previous "news" of BBC urdu about Pakistan? Lol they are anti-Pakistan and have been spewing venom since a long long time.

Yes, BBC urdu are known for toeing Indian line. BBC urdu are credible because they interviewed locals. And it's further corroborated by locals in and around manshera who are tweeting about this. In other words, multiple sources who have independently corroborated the story.

The DG ISPR on the other hand has tweeted an alleged pic of jettisoned fuel tank to hide the real facts.

But do not for a moment feel that I am trying to convince you. Feel free to believe the story that makes you feel good. That's cool.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So IAF entered Pakistani territory, into KPK and dropped bombs.

Well done IAF.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes, BBC urdu are known for toeing Indian line. BBC urdu are credible because they interviewed locals. And it's further corroborated by locals in and around manshera who are tweeting about this. In other words, multiple sources who have independently corroborated the story.

The DG ISPR on the other hand has tweeted an alleged pic of jettisoned fuel tank to hide the real facts.

But do not for a moment feel that I am trying to convince you. Feel free to believe the story that makes you feel good. That's cool.

Jets drop fuel tanks when making a return after mission.

 

[Usman Chadda]

So IAF entered Pakistani territory, into KPK and dropped bombs.

Well done IAF.

You forgot to mention the part where they killed 200-300 JEM members, with 1000 kg worth of explosives.

Embarrassed much?

 

[Rafa]

Have you followed previous "news" of BBC urdu about Pakistan? Lol they are anti-Pakistan and have been spewing venom since a long long time.

Is BBC paying the locals around KPK to admit that Indian Air Force conducted strikes in their village ?

 

[AMSS]

Jets drop fuel tanks when making a return after mission.

Bhai I am really tired of you. Please read my post above on this very page and stop being a boring pedant.

 

[Madplayer]

Yes, BBC urdu are known for toeing Indian line. BBC urdu are credible because they interviewed locals. And it's further corroborated by locals in and around manshera who are tweeting about this. In other words, multiple sources who have independently corroborated the story.

The DG ISPR on the other hand has tweeted an alleged pic of jettisoned fuel tank to hide the real facts.

But do not for a moment feel that I am trying to convince you. Feel free to believe the story that makes you feel good. That's cool.

Twitter accounts? Have you verified them yourself? Lol this is a bit funny to be honest. A guy above has said he lives near the site and has relatives near all over the alleged mentioned site and nothing like that happened there. So its your word against his and you are sitting in India.

Dont worry, i will believe what makes more sense even if it goes against what i'd like to believe.

 

[Madplayer]

Is BBC paying the locals around KPK to admit that Indian Air Force conducted strikes in their village ?

Who knows

 

[AMSS]

Twitter accounts? Have you verified them yourself? Lol this is a bit funny to be honest. A guy above has said he lives near the site and has relatives near all over the alleged mentioned site and nothing like that happened there. So its your word against his and you are sitting in India.

Dont worry, i will believe what makes more sense even if it goes against what i'd like to believe.

Excellent. My fervent hope is this is how Imran Khan and his DG ISPR sell the story to their awam. Will de-escalate the situation in double quick time.

 

[WebGuru]

For those who don't know the balakot mentioned here is a small Balakot village on the line of control (LoC) in Pakistani side of Kashmir (AJK). Famous Balakot Town is in KPK so they are 2 different places.

 

[WebGuru]

1000KG of explosives and 300 people killed indian media surely knows how to entertain the public

 

[AMSS]

For those who don't know the balakot mentioned here is a small Balakot village on the line of control (LoC) in Pakistani side of Kashmir (AJK). Famous Balakot Town is in KPK so they are 2 different places.

You're a bit late to the party. Personally I am glad there are two Balakots so there's room for plausible deniability

 

[IAJ]

So IAF entered Pakistani territory, into KPK and dropped bombs.

Well done IAF.

Lol what KPK? Do you even know where Balakot is?

 

[Usman Chadda]

You're a bit late to the party. Personally I am glad there are two Balakots so there's room for plausible deniability

If i were you, I would be a bit more humble after the embarrassing stories coming out from the Indian camp.

1000 kg explosives.

300 JEM targetted.

India is a joke, and the people have to be downright dumb to believe all of this.

 

[WebGuru]

You're a bit late to the party. Personally I am glad there are two Balakots so there's room for plausible deniability

I wonder how come India always miss recording these Sur G kal strikes? They can show as evidence with their claims when Pak deny

 

[King-Misbah]

The intrusion was not in KPK but a village in AK which is 3,4 miles from LOC.

 

[boomboomcheema]

For those who don't know the balakot mentioned here is a small Balakot village on the line of control (LoC) in Pakistani side of Kashmir (AJK). Famous Balakot Town is in KPK so they are 2 different places.

Indians are claiming that their target area Balakot is located on bank of river Kunhar in KPK.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/ba...-also-used-by-hizbul/articleshow/68167163.cms


Had a few locals from the areas giving their account of the strikes on BBC Urdu.

 

[IAJ]

1000KG of explosives and 300 people killed indian media surely knows how to entertain the public

Living in stone age apparantly.

The 350 KGs in Pulwama, everyone heard and saw the evidences and here 1000 KGs wasn't heard.

 

[Tiger96]

BBC Urdu are a bunch of traitors

 

[Zahid87]

Have you followed previous "news" of BBC urdu about Pakistan? Lol they are anti-Pakistan and have been spewing venom since a long long time.

Its not just BBC Urdu for one.

As I posted before, Al Jazeera are also saying it happened inside KPK.

But I hope this is the end of the matter. This way Pakistan can still laugh it off and say nothing happened. If anything further which strengthens the Indian claim comes out, then Pakistan will be forced to react.

There should be no appetite for war amongst sane individuals. The fact people are laughing over this, and thumping chests is depressing.

 

[WebGuru]

Living in stone age apparantly.

The 350 KGs in Pulwama, everyone heard and saw the evidences and here 1000 KGs wasn't heard.

Indian tech is far ahead of us they use soundproof bombs

 

[IAJ]

Why does Indian defence ministry reject all this?

 

[cricketjoshila]

You forgot to mention the part where they killed 200-300 JEM members, with 1000 kg worth of explosives.

Embarrassed much?

The govt in its statement have mentioned no numbers in terms of casualties.

 

[Finisher]

So IAF entered Pakistani territory, into KPK and dropped bombs.

Well done IAF.

Will any footage/proof of this attack be shown?

 

[AMSS]

If i were you, I would be a bit more humble after the embarrassing stories coming out from the Indian camp.

1000 kg explosives.

300 JEM targetted.

India is a joke, and the people have to be downright dumb to believe all of this.

Indian foreign secy has categorically claimed Masood Azhar's brother in law Ustad something was among those eliminated.

All pakistan has to do it produce that man alive on TV to prove India wrong.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Living in stone age apparantly.

The 350 KGs in Pulwama, everyone heard and saw the evidences and here 1000 KGs wasn't heard.

Who said it wasnot heard? Refer to Al Jazeera who talked to locals.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Mujhe lagta hai ye 1000 kg explosives morr ke kahin aur le liya hai IAF ne

 

[cricketjoshila]

Will any footage/proof of this attack be shown?

Neutral sources have confirmed.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Indian foreign secy has categorically claimed Masood Azhar's brother in law Ustad something was among those eliminated.

All pakistan has to do it produce that man alive on TV to prove India wrong.

Lol the onus is on India to PROVE they actually did something, not Pakistan.

1000 kgs explosives.

300 JEM members targetted.

Your country is an absolute joke, and the funny thing is, it doesn't even realize it.

 

[AMSS]

Its not just BBC Urdu for one.

As I posted before, Al Jazeera are also saying it happened inside KPK.

But I hope this is the end of the matter. This way Pakistan can still laugh it off and say nothing happened. If anything further which strengthens the Indian claim comes out, then Pakistan will be forced to react.

There should be no appetite for war amongst sane individuals. The fact people are laughing over this, and thumping chests is depressing.

[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] is a keen media follower and he would have you know AJ is known for bias against Pakistan. Don't trust them.

Trust DG ISPR who have actually deleted a tweet where they claimed PAF jets scrambled and chased away intruding IAF.

 

[Azzurri]

Neutral sources have confirmed.

Neutral sources with headline: Indian media claims

 

[AMSS]

Lol the onus is on India to PROVE they actually did something, not Pakistan.

1000 kgs explosives.

300 JEM members targetted.

Your country is an absolute joke, and the funny thing is, it doesn't even realize it.

Fine yaar, we are a joke. But you can make India a bigger joke by producing that guy Indian foreign secy claimed has been killed.

Easy no?

 

[ravisurya]

Who said it wasnot heard? Refer to Al Jazeera who talked to locals.

AL-Jazeera too paid the loacls just like BBC.

 

[IAJ]

Neutral sources have confirmed.

That is not the issue, even DG ISPR has said LOC was violated and they were inside for some minutes. We are talking about the 300 People killed your media is spreading

 

[Finisher]

Neutral sources have confirmed.

12 Fighter jets equipped with Avt systems, surely 1 should have picked up footage of 200 plus people getting surgically striked

 

[ahsan17]

Neutral sources have confirmed.

In what way?

 

[WebGuru]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This action has been done for domestic consumption being in election environment, putting regional peace and stability at grave risk. The claimed area of strike is open for the world to see the facts on ground. <a href="https://t.co/Luv94QuN0g">pic.twitter.com/Luv94QuN0g</a></p>— Prime Minister's Office, Pakistan (@PakPMO) <a href="https://twitter.com/PakPMO/status/1100330449472241664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[WebGuru]

PM Office is saying "The claimed area of strike is open for the world to see the facts on ground". I hope those so called neutrals are sent to investigate...

 

[ahsan17]

NSC strongly rejects Indian claim of targeting terrorist camp near Balakot

Prime Minister Imran Khan on Tuesday convened a special meeting of the National Security Committee to review the emerging situation in the wake of the Indian Air Force's (IAF) violation of the Line of Control.

The committee, according to a statement issued after the meeting, "strongly rejected Indian claim of targeting an alleged terrorist camp near Balakot as well as the claim of heavy casualties".

"Once again Indian government has resorted to a self-serving, reckless and fictitious claim," the statement said. "This action has been done for domestic consumption being in election environment, putting regional peace and stability at grave risk.

"The claimed area of strike is open for the world to see the facts on ground. For this domestic and international media is being taken to the impact site. Forum concluded that India has committed uncalled for aggression to which Pakistan shall respond at the time and place of its choosing."

The meeting was attended by ministers of foreign affairs, defence, finance, chairman joint chiefs of staff committee, Chief of the Army Staff (COAS) Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, CNS, CAS and other civil & military officials.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1466145/n...laim-of-targeting-terrorist-camp-near-balakot

 

[the Great Khan]

That is something we will never know. To be honest, I believe their aim was not to cause max damage anyway. They wanted to cross and make it back, without pushing Pakistan into a response. This does that for them.

Well, unless media drives Pakistan into a response.

The sensible option would be to let things lie like 2016. Both sides can get what they want. If the PAF does decide to go like for like, then there is a real chance things can escalate.

India have put themselves into a position where they cannot back down. At least ISPR, through downplaying things, can allow themselves an exit.

Here is what i have gleaned from all the chatter. The fact is the LOC was violated. According to both countries. Nobody is denying this. What is unconfirmed is what happened after.

India first claimed they attacked balakot AJK and took out some camps. the mission didnt take long and they scooted before the PAF could engage. Now this can potentially be true as balakot isnt that far from the LOC/BORDER and IAF jets could have violated the 10km exclusion zone , dropped some stand of munitions , skirted slightly voer the border as they were making their getaway, PAF were alerted and were moving to itnercept but couldnt fire as IAf was in own territory. hence if we had fired they would have dropped in their territory and another propaganda coup. Now if this has happened it has tested Pakistans red lines right to the limit. India hasnt violated any real agreements, havent crossed our red lines and havent really caused a war like situation. For Pakistan they can simply deny it all because the area is remote, probably no real civies in the area and dead militants are expendable.

Heres the problem though. if they killed 300 people even ina remote area we would be seeing movement. Any sort of movement from the locals. We would be seeing twitter photos by now, and something. The PA is in the area so they would have at least cordoned off the area. At this moment in time we have a few fuel tanks and not much else.

Moving onto the more implausible story of an attack on Balakot in KPK, I would say this is a bit of masala news. I saw the feeds. they went from AJK to balakot in a blink of an eye. Suddenly the indian media just picked up on the KPK stuff and ran with it. Nothing from the Indian state after the initial AJK claims. I fidn it hard to believe the IAF would have returned safely from any mission over KPK with mirages. The PAF are running CAPS all over the area so that is just not possible unless you have stealth aircraft.

So to play devils advocate if the Indians have completed a mission it would most logically be in the ajk Area as its low risk high reward, good propaganda value, modi is happy, gives pakistan deniability, and everyone goes home.

If on the other hand it is in KPK and it is confirmed, then I'm afraid friends we have to start praying because that is a very very dangerous situation. And I would honestly think we all would have to take a few steps back and suddenly realise what could happen. We all have friends relatives and PP friends in both countries.

Finally what about another scenario? what if Pakistans narrative is accurate like the last time? What does pakistan do? india will continue to claim it has attacked without any resistance. Pakistan will deny but they have accepted an incursion. Many are saying even that is too much. Any incursion be it a few km's or lots of kms is too much. In this case Pakistan has to verify the billions of different stories coming from across the border, get to the sites they are claiming they hit and show real time evidence of no strike. itherwise, im afraid they will have to retaliate. And that is where an escalation can happen.

just my first thoughts after the craziness..

 

[saeed5646]

hahaha pardosi favorite outlet .So where are 300 causalities? .There is only one big hospital in abbottabad
and not a single injured have been reached there neither emergency have been put in hospital

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">انڈیا کا جیش محمد کا کیمپ تباہ کرنے اور بڑے پیمانے پر ہلاکتوں کا دعویٰ عینی شاہد کے مطابق چند مکانوں کو نقصان پہنچا اور ایک شخص زخمی ہوا۔<a href="https://t.co/SnTKys9anM">https://t.co/SnTKys9anM</a></p>— BBC News اردو (@BBCUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCUrdu/status/1100330658625478658?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[last_knight]

This is STAGED by mutual correspondence from Indo-Pak. It's better to satisfy Warmongers with staged events or they will keep on applying pressure.

 

[WebGuru]

If it happened in Balakot why on earth the injured people didn't reach Abbottabad Hospitals yet? Or they are being treated in India?

 

[WebGuru]

This is STAGED by mutual correspondence from Indo-Pak. It's better to satisfy Warmongers with staged events or they will keep on applying pressure.

I am thinking on same lines GoI needed something for face saving to satisfy the bhakts and awaam after all those aggressive comments from them.

 

[Finisher]

Who said it wasnot heard? Refer to Al Jazeera who talked to locals.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Let people laugh or whine or indulge in memes.

Makes no difference.

In the end, IAF jets entered Pak, evaded getting detected by their radars (or jammed them?) and came out unscathed.

This much is 100% true.

And THAT is enough to make a strong statement of what IAF is capable of.

This is the beginning of a new type of Indian response. Play games and we will swarm in with fighter jets.

By the way, IAF didn't target civilians or military personnels which is the ideal way to go.

They targeted terrorist camps. How many they killed is unknown for now.

 

[saeed5646]

Pak to respond to Indian intrusion at a time and place of its choosing: NSC Release

 

[WebGuru]

Bhakts are funny )
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My highly reliable political source in government claims,’India went inside Pakistan. Not around LoC. Our estimate is 600/ 650 casualties. Our targets inside Pakistan and not in PoK.’</p>— Sheela Bhatt (@sheela2010) <a href="https://twitter.com/sheela2010/status/1100297611188322304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[saeed5646]

If it happened in Balakot why on earth the injured people didn't reach Abbottabad Hospitals yet? Or they are being treated in India?

my friend works in ayub medical complex and just told me there is no activity or any high alert at hospital

 

[cricketjoshila]

That is not the issue, even DG ISPR has said LOC was violated and they were inside for some minutes. We are talking about the 300 People killed your media is spreading

The govt didnot claim any numbers.

Balakote in Kpk is not near LOC.

Neutral media outlets have confirmed that bombing happened.

 

[Aman]

One country is going to look like a bunch of idiots if they're proven to be lying.

 

[WebGuru]

my friend works in ayub medical complex and just told me there is no activity or any high alert at hospital

Maybe they are being treated in India.

 

[ahsan17]

Neutral media outlets have confirmed that bombing happened.

No they have not. They are basically airing what India is saying. Sort of like what Iran and North Korea say about US.

 

[Abdullah719]

Pakistan to respond India at the time and place of its choosing: NSC

Prime Minister Imran Khan has directed elements of national power including the Armed Forces and the people of Pakistan to remain prepared for all eventualities, hours after Indian warplanes violated Pakistan's airspace on Tuesday.

"India has committed uncalled for aggression to which Pakistan shall respond at the time and place of its choosing" observed a special meeting of the National Security Committee chaired by the Prime Minister at his office.

It was attended by Ministers of Foreign Affairs, Defence, Finance, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, COAS, CNS, CAS and other civil & military officials.

A statement issued after the meeting said the forum strongly rejects Indian claim of targeting an alleged terrorist camp near Balakot and the claim of heavy casualties.

"Once again Indian government has resorted to a self serving, reckless and fictitious claim.

This action has been done for domestic consumption being in election environment, putting regional peace and stability at grave risk," the statement said.

It further said the claimed area of strike is open for the world to see the facts on ground, adding that local and international media is being taken to the area.

"To take the nation on board, the government has decided to requisition joint session of the Parliament. PM has summoned special meeting of NCA on 27 Feb 2019," the statement added.

The prime minister has decided to engage with global leadership to expose irresponsible Indian policy in the region.

He also appreciated timely and effective response of PAF to repulse Indian attempt without any loss of life or property.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/4...respond-at-the-time-and-place-of-its-choosing

 

[ahsan17]

One country is going to look like a bunch of idiots if they're proven to be lying.

Not really. You might or might not know what happened in 2016. A similar incident was claimed by India, and they brought international media to disprove them. That incident is widely know to be a hoax, but Indian public still widely believes in it like gospel.

 

[the Great Khan]

Let people laugh or whine or indulge in memes.

Makes no difference.

In the end, IAF jets entered Pak, evaded getting detected by their radars (or jammed them?) and came out unscathed.

This much is 100% true.

And THAT is enough to make a strong statement of what IAF is capable of.

This is the beginning of a new type of Indian response. Play games and we will swarm in with fighter jets.

By the way, IAF didn't target civilians or military personnels which is the ideal way to go.

They targeted terrorist camps. How many they killed is unknown for now.

But theyve done this before on the LOC. Many times. its sometimes quite normal. After the mumbai attacks it happened on the LOC too. What is interesting is tehir claim they sent a squadron over to KPK province, smashed three camps, and returned unscathed. that would mean flying voer major instalaltions that are heavily guarded and the PAF on alert. this is just nonsense. Even with jamming you cant do that. And if you can then why not loiter and take out some logistics while your at it? I mean you wont ever get a better chance since the PAF and air defence just seemingly shut down. Even when the OBL incident happend the US lost one of their copters and just about made it out. They used stealth and terrain mapping and all sorts of sphisticated techniques.

But you are right about one thing and that is that we let the IAF break teh 10km exclusion zone, come over do something and go back. That requires a response. And I think there will be one in the LOC in teh next 48 hours..

 

[Madplayer]

hahaha pardosi favorite outlet .so where are 300 causalities? .there is only one big hospital in abbottabad
and not a single injured have been reached there neither emergency have been put in hospital

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">انڈیا کا جیش محمد کا کیمپ تباہ کرنے اور بڑے پیمانے پر ہلاکتوں کا دعویٰ عینی شاہد کے مطابق چند مکانوں کو نقصان پہنچا اور ایک شخص زخمی ہوا۔<a href="https://t.co/sntkys9anm">https://t.co/sntkys9anm</a></p>— bbc news اردو (@bbcurdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/bbcurdu/status/1100330658625478658?ref_src=twsrc%5etfw">february 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Abdullah719]

China urges India, Pakistan to 'exercise restraint' after India LoC violation

China on Tuesday urged India and Pakistan to “exercise restraint” after the Inter-Services Public Relations said that Indian warplanes violated the Line of Control (LoC) last night and released their payload in Muzaffarabad sector of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK).

“We hope that both India and Pakistan can exercise restraint and adopt actions that will help stabilise the situation in the region and improve mutual relations,” China's Foreign Ministry Spokesman Lu Kang said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1466159

 

[cricketjoshila]

Neutral sources with headline: Indian media claims

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بالاکوٹ، خیبر پختونخوا کے علاقے جابہ کے رہائشی محمد عادل نے بی بی سی کو گذشتہ رات کے حملے کے بارے میں تفصیلات بتائیں۔ <br>اس بارے میں مزید تفصیل ہماری ویب سائٹ پر<a href="https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU">https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU</a> <a href="https://t.co/BmkDFbTFyi">pic.twitter.com/BmkDFbTFyi</a></p>— BBC News اردو (@BBCUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCUrdu/status/1100297657396932608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[cricketjoshila]

But theyve done this before on the LOC. Many times. its sometimes quite normal. After the mumbai attacks it happened on the LOC too. What is interesting is tehir claim they sent a squadron over to KPK province, smashed three camps, and returned unscathed. that would mean flying voer major instalaltions that are heavily guarded and the PAF on alert. this is just nonsense. Even with jamming you cant do that. And if you can then why not loiter and take out some logistics while your at it? I mean you wont ever get a better chance since the PAF and air defence just seemingly shut down. Even when the OBL incident happend the US lost one of their copters and just about made it out. They used stealth and terrain mapping and all sorts of sphisticated techniques.

But you are right about one thing and that is that we let the IAF break teh 10km exclusion zone, come over do something and go back. That requires a response. And I think there will be one in the LOC in teh next 48 hours..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بالاکوٹ، خیبر پختونخوا کے علاقے جابہ کے رہائشی محمد عادل نے بی بی سی کو گذشتہ رات کے حملے کے بارے میں تفصیلات بتائیں۔ <br>اس بارے میں مزید تفصیل ہماری ویب سائٹ پر<a href="https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU">https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU</a> <a href="https://t.co/BmkDFbTFyi">pic.twitter.com/BmkDFbTFyi</a></p>— BBC News اردو (@BBCUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCUrdu/status/1100297657396932608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[the Great Khan]

The govt didnot claim any numbers.

Balakote in Kpk is not near LOC.

Neutral media outlets have confirmed that bombing happened.

they are basing their stories on some locals. you know balakot is in kpk so an Indian admission of an attack there is an act of war. Im sure your govt is not that stupid. that area is also heavily militarised due to the WOT. All pakistan has to do is go to this so called forested area and show some pics like they did last time.

 

[saeed5646]

Bhakts are funny )
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My highly reliable political source in government claims,’India went inside Pakistan. Not around LoC. Our estimate is 600/ 650 casualties. Our targets inside Pakistan and not in PoK.’</p>— Sheela Bhatt (@sheela2010) <a href="https://twitter.com/sheela2010/status/1100297611188322304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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look at the likes in post that too on twitter over 2000 educated people believe in him

 

[the Great Khan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بالاکوٹ، خیبر پختونخوا کے علاقے جابہ کے رہائشی محمد عادل نے بی بی سی کو گذشتہ رات کے حملے کے بارے میں تفصیلات بتائیں۔ <br>اس بارے میں مزید تفصیل ہماری ویب سائٹ پر<a href="https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU">https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU</a> <a href="https://t.co/BmkDFbTFyi">pic.twitter.com/BmkDFbTFyi</a></p>— BBC News اردو (@BBCUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCUrdu/status/1100297657396932608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

its an unverified report from one outlet. based on a report from some locals. we should wait and see what comes out. plenty of otehr locals are denying anything happened.

 

[ahsan17]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بالاکوٹ، خیبر پختونخوا کے علاقے جابہ کے رہائشی محمد عادل نے بی بی سی کو گذشتہ رات کے حملے کے بارے میں تفصیلات بتائیں۔ <br>اس بارے میں مزید تفصیل ہماری ویب سائٹ پر<a href="https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU">https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU</a> <a href="https://t.co/BmkDFbTFyi">pic.twitter.com/BmkDFbTFyi</a></p>— BBC News اردو (@BBCUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCUrdu/status/1100297657396932608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

200-300 deaths? This guy is claiming 1 injury?

 

[Zahid87]

Here is what i have gleaned from all the chatter. The fact is the LOC was violated. According to both countries. Nobody is denying this. What is unconfirmed is what happened after.

India first claimed they attacked balakot AJK and took out some camps. the mission didnt take long and they scooted before the PAF could engage. Now this can potentially be true as balakot isnt that far from the LOC/BORDER and IAF jets could have violated the 10km exclusion zone , dropped some stand of munitions , skirted slightly voer the border as they were making their getaway, PAF were alerted and were moving to itnercept but couldnt fire as IAf was in own territory. hence if we had fired they would have dropped in their territory and another propaganda coup. Now if this has happened it has tested Pakistans red lines right to the limit. India hasnt violated any real agreements, havent crossed our red lines and havent really caused a war like situation. For Pakistan they can simply deny it all because the area is remote, probably no real civies in the area and dead militants are expendable.

Heres the problem though. if they killed 300 people even ina remote area we would be seeing movement. Any sort of movement from the locals. We would be seeing twitter photos by now, and something. The PA is in the area so they would have at least cordoned off the area. At this moment in time we have a few fuel tanks and not much else.

Moving onto the more implausible story of an attack on Balakot in KPK, I would say this is a bit of masala news. I saw the feeds. they went from AJK to balakot in a blink of an eye. Suddenly the indian media just picked up on the KPK stuff and ran with it. Nothing from the Indian state after the initial AJK claims. I fidn it hard to believe the IAF would have returned safely from any mission over KPK with mirages. The PAF are running CAPS all over the area so that is just not possible unless you have stealth aircraft.

So to play devils advocate if the Indians have completed a mission it would most logically be in the ajk Area as its low risk high reward, good propaganda value, modi is happy, gives pakistan deniability, and everyone goes home.

If on the other hand it is in KPK and it is confirmed, then I'm afraid friends we have to start praying because that is a very very dangerous situation. And I would honestly think we all would have to take a few steps back and suddenly realise what could happen. We all have friends relatives and PP friends in both countries.

Finally what about another scenario? what if Pakistans narrative is accurate like the last time? What does pakistan do? india will continue to claim it has attacked without any resistance. Pakistan will deny but they have accepted an incursion. Many are saying even that is too much. Any incursion be it a few km's or lots of kms is too much. In this case Pakistan has to verify the billions of different stories coming from across the border, get to the sites they are claiming they hit and show real time evidence of no strike. itherwise, im afraid they will have to retaliate. And that is where an escalation can happen.

just my first thoughts after the craziness..

I think its safe to conclude it happened in KPK...the location of Balakot, AJK was first given out by DG_ISPR - Indian media did not have any idea. They were just told that it was inside Pakistan.

I think the media chatter is now picking up 'Indian sources' confirming this was not in Azad Kashmir. Other media outlets saying it was in KPK.

The ISPR have played it well. They can open up Balakot, AJK, show to the world that nothing happened, and save face.

India has also been cautious, I don't think they did anything major in KPK. They simply demonstrated that they can go there. There is probably very little damage - so small, and in an area so remote, that you can get away with saying nothing happened.

Pakistan response should be not to retaliate. There is still room for an 'honorable' exit. War would be a disaster for both countries.

 

[saeed5646]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بالاکوٹ، خیبر پختونخوا کے علاقے جابہ کے رہائشی محمد عادل نے بی بی سی کو گذشتہ رات کے حملے کے بارے میں تفصیلات بتائیں۔ <br>اس بارے میں مزید تفصیل ہماری ویب سائٹ پر<a href="https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU">https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU</a> <a href="https://t.co/BmkDFbTFyi">pic.twitter.com/BmkDFbTFyi</a></p>— BBC News اردو (@BBCUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCUrdu/status/1100297657396932608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بالاکوٹ، خیبر پختونخوا کے علاقے جابہ کے رہائشی محمد عادل نے بی بی سی کو گذشتہ رات کے حملے کے بارے میں تفصیلات بتائیں۔ <br>اس بارے میں مزید تفصیل ہماری ویب سائٹ پر<a href="https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU">https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU</a> <a href="https://t.co/BmkDFbTFyi">pic.twitter.com/BmkDFbTFyi</a></p>— BBC News اردو (@BBCUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCUrdu/status/1100297657396932608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

his is the summary of what he is saying

1. He is resident of Jabba and does zamindaria ( farming) [ Jabba is in Azad Kashmir and not in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa ]
2. The blasts happened near a place called Kaggar Kattha/Kangar , which is also Azad Kashmir
3. The sound of jets lasted about 10 minutes before going silent
4. 5 loud blasts were heard
5. His relative lives near Kaggar Kattha/Kangar and there 4 or 5 houses got damaged and 1 person got injured.

This account is believable , yes it confirms that India did an intrusion but all the claims about camps and what not are just that , they are bull crap

This modi pig has over estimated himself this time , this will have consequences for india

 

[Varun]

I was awaiting [MENTION=253]the Great Khan[/MENTION]'s entry into this thread.

He is somebody who has some links with the Pakistan military so maybe we can read something between the lines.

 

[Finisher]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بالاکوٹ، خیبر پختونخوا کے علاقے جابہ کے رہائشی محمد عادل نے بی بی سی کو گذشتہ رات کے حملے کے بارے میں تفصیلات بتائیں۔ <br>اس بارے میں مزید تفصیل ہماری ویب سائٹ پر<a href="https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU">https://t.co/Zg2yRyfZAU</a> <a href="https://t.co/BmkDFbTFyi">pic.twitter.com/BmkDFbTFyi</a></p>— BBC News اردو (@BBCUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCUrdu/status/1100297657396932608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Indians are claiming 600 plus dead tho
Your star witness has 1 person injured here

 

[saadsahabjee]

india is in danger now , my paf airforce cousin saying an attack could happen on india,

 

[saeed5646]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] it seems national socialist in india was not famous enough to be taken seriously but a paid common man in pak is)

 

[Mueez]

“Pakistan respond karega.”


- Shah Mehmood Qureshi