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PAF chases away Indian jets after LoC airspace violation

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=147347]Canford Cliffs[/MENTION]

I cant believe u guys are siding an "incursion" into another country.

Do u REALLY think that a WAR will HELP india ??

No one Wins in a war.

Childish thinking.
 
And by the way whichever Indian is "applauding" the Indian act can help by " joining the NEXT incursion".

If you cant do that, then shut your trap and let the governments work into a solution.
 
a_tahir said:
So there's a chance of war?
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Pakistan will have to retaliate otherwise what is the point of all the military spending? Even if it is only a return token strike and bombing a few trees, some sort of response will be needed. Well done BJP, hope that wins you the election otherwise will have been a lot of money and resources wasted for very little.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
First win....then hang him and then come here for chest thumping. I know the case and guarantee you Pak will lose.
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I am not immature to chest thump. I sincerely hope that war is avoided as I value human life on both sides. Nevertheless, Indias intrusion of Pakistan airspace only makes it looks bad considering PM IK offered to take action on actionable evidence.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
First win....then hang him and then come here for chest thumping. I know the case and guarantee you Pak will lose.
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if we lose

Do not be so happy .There was a actor in india who died mysteriously due to heart attack for solely praising pak.So kulbshan can die in mysterious health issues you know:genius
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I cant believe thumping Indians want a war.

Everyone in this forum is sitting safe at home and wants their nations to attack.

Pata nai kya hogaya hy logon ko.

If Pakistan retaliates ... this is gonna get ugly.

War is very possible in 24 hours. The first 24 hours are crucial for preventing a war. But it seems it wont happen.
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Most of them are sitting safe abroad while war mongering online!
Many of these young men sign upto the forces to feed their families just like the rest of us. Hopefully sense prevails.
 
WebGuru said:
WTH is wrong with indian media? Their channels are showing a 2 years old video from youtube as proof of attack and bhakts are believing it.
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Just look at the Indian responses here in this thread and you will get some idea how gullible they are to believe anything their media will regurgitate from the government.

If anything it’s the Indian media that have been pushing the government for mass hysteria and war.
It’s absurd that you would see the media pushing the narrative. Normally it’s the government pushing for war and aggression but the media would be pushing back and asking the questions.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Pakistan will have to retaliate otherwise what is the point of all the military spending? Even if it is only a return token strike and bombing a few trees, some sort of response will be needed. Well done BJP, hope that wins you the election otherwise will have been a lot of money and resources wasted for very little.
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The problem is if we dont act we are presumed weak.

If we act, it might erupt into a full scale conflict.

Congratulations to India for meddling in Pakistani territory.
 
A sensible tweet to verify if it happened or not:

India just needs to give the coordinates for the alleged camp they destroyed. Then take the foreign media to that very location and let them decide.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=147347]Canford Cliffs[/MENTION]

I cant believe u guys are siding an "incursion" into another country.

Do u REALLY think that a WAR will HELP india ??

No one Wins in a war.

Childish thinking.
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Joshila wants a war because he is in eastern part of India in west Bengal. He will be the last one to get affected by war. He is war mongering and wants his western and northern neighbours to die just to satisfy his ego. Shameless person who will hide under his bed even if he hears the sound of a far.t.
 
90MPH said:
Just look at the Indian responses here in this thread and you will get some idea how gullible they are to believe anything their media will regurgitate from the government.

If anything it’s the Indian media that have been pushing the government for mass hysteria and war.
It’s absurd that you would see the media pushing the narrative. Normally it’s the government pushing for war and aggression but the media would be pushing back and asking the questions.
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Indian media and bhakts are trying their best start a war but they will be the first to fear when it's started because you can start a war but you can't stop it. It's not a video game as keyboard warriors think.
 
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Dr_Bassim said:
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=147347]Canford Cliffs[/MENTION]

I cant believe u guys are siding an "incursion" into another country.

Do u REALLY think that a WAR will HELP india ??

No one Wins in a war.

Childish thinking.
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Already posted. Lets not be silly here....no one wants war. You think I will be happy if you suffer or vice versa you will be happy if I get killed? So war is not an option and no one advocated.

We are rejoicing on the fact that Jaish (a banned terror outfit by UN) being targetted by IAF. Actually, Pak govt should have targetted those terror camps long time ago so a foreign power never needed to intervene. But we all know how it works in that part of the world and how military controls civilian govt. Azhar Masood was house arrested by Pak govt in 2016 and then miraculously dissappears in thin air....are you kidding me? What was he (a certified terrorist) was doing in Pak in 1st place? Shouldnt Pak govt have taken action on these terror camps long time ago?

What is India suppose to do? Let our soldiers get killed by these terrorists in the name of Kashmir and do nothing? It dont work that way. No one wants war but we all support our govt action against terror camps, a task Pak establishment should have done long time ago. I though Pak posters will also be happy that these so called non state actors are getting killed but looking at the way Pak posters are defending them, its apalling.
 
Guys no international media is covering this so called military strike.

Even the first surgical strike in 2016 got very limited coverage.

I bet Bollywood will make a film about it though, to show India got their revenge even though the whole attack was planned, assembled and executed in Indian side of Kashmir.
 
Unfortunatley this is a very very dangerous situation. Whoever advised Modi to do this has made a big mistake. Yous ee the pressure now on IK and the pakistan govt is simply rising. They have to respond. There is simply no question now. The level of response is what will have to be assessed. I listened to the press conference with shah mehmood and the others and its quite clear that there is real anger in the public and some really hard questions for the PAF. they will have to respond. Even a small incursion like this has caused such a big issue. Its really testing pakistans red lines. And its all so uneccessary. We have ad emocratic popular govt in place, india just had to engage. but alas Modi needs to chest thump.

I think the PAF are going to flatten some structures on the LOC. No artillery like last time. I think they IA are going to face the brunt.
 
WebGuru said:
A sensible tweet to verify if it happened or not:

India just needs to give the coordinates for the alleged camp they destroyed. Then take the foreign media to that very location and let them decide.
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This is a fair enough response.
 
90MPH said:
Guys no international media is covering this so called military strike.

Even the first surgical strike in 2016 got very limited coverage.

I bet Bollywood will make a film about it though, to show India got their revenge even though the whole attack was planned, assembled and executed in Indian side of Kashmir.
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Lol go check Cnn.com website.

Prime slot headline.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Washington post

2nd slot headline.
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Yes very good. Let's see the response shall we. India have a opened up a Pandora's box here. Pakistan is in a tight corner now. Respond and it will escalate. Don't and lose credibility. Intelligent thinking required to judge the right answer.
 
DRsohail said:
these channels ad people can say what they want but please no war,,,its not the solution.
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I completely agree, but I'm slightly biased towards those folks in this thread who seem to be in the know when it comes to the military.

The rest, sure: add generous amounts of salt.
 
saadsahabjee said:
fighter pilots are getting ready according to samaa channel , tanks spotted at LOC.
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Quite dumb if true. Aggressor has the advantage of surprise. Now India is just waiting and have most definitely wargamed this scenario and have the air defences primed. Losing a few more planes will rub salt on the wounds
 
saeed5646 said:
Don,t worry terrorist will be hang soon .First tell indian government to behave with there national hero famliy

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Canford Cliffs said:
First win....then hang him and then come here for chest thumping. I know the case and guarantee you Pak will lose.
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Probably India would get a more favourable decision regardless of whether Kalbhushan is guilty or not. The reasons are:

a) ICJ will not want to convict Kalbhushan simply because that may implicate India as a terrorist sponsor. That may have very far reaching consequences. Therefore the ICJ will always refrain from such a decision against any country but more so against a powerful country like India.

b) The ICJ will always look at the decisions of a military tribunal unfavorably and with great suspicion. They would not want to be seen as giving military courts credibility.

c) Capital punishment will always invoke an unfavorable response from ICJ.

There is a reason why you would rarely find cases of espionage being referred to the ICJ. Regardless of whether the alleged spy is guilty or not a country would not want the case to be taken up in the ICJ. Nawaz Sharif agreeing to it was one of his worst acts and in many other countries would see him labelled a traitor.
 
Varun said:
I completely agree, but I'm slightly biased towards those folks in this thread who seem to be in the know when it comes to the military.

The rest, sure: add generous amounts of salt.
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Emotions get the better of us I mean pak India otherwise these chest thumping has no out put.
 
Indian claims of major destruction exposed by Balakot residents

BALAKOT: Residents of Balakot, where India claims to have carried out a strike early Tuesday, disputed reports of major destruction. According to reports, one person was injured.

Muhammad Ajmal, who visited the site, in a video clip released to BBC Urdu said, “We saw trees fallen down, one house damaged and four craters where the bombs had fallen."

Another area resident, Murad said no loss of life had taken place. “The stones of a mud house fell due to the noise of the explosions. Four or five trees have been broken at the site. Indian media is just doing propaganda”.

Indian military aircraft violated the LoC as they "intruded" from the Muzaffarabad sector and were forced to return owing to the timely response of the Pakistan Air Force, Pakistan military spokesperson Major General Asif Ghafoor said early Tuesday.

"Indian aircraft intrusion across LoC in Muzafarabad Sector within AJK was 3-4 miles. Under forced hasty withdrawal aircraft released payload which had free fall in open area. No infrastructure got hit, no casualties. Technical details and other important information to follow," Major General Ghafoor wrote on Twitter.

He also tweeted images of the "payload of hastily escaping Indian aircraft" which "fell in [the] open".

Exclusive pictures and video obtained by Geo News also showed no major destruction, apart from a few burnt trees.

A meeting of the National Security Council chaired by Prime Minister Imran Khan rejected Indian claims of targeting an alleged terrorist camp near Balakot. A handout released following the meeting said the claimed area of strike was open for the world to see the facts on ground, adding that domestic and international media would be taken to the impact side.

The National Security Council concluded that Pakistan shall respond to Indian aggression at the time and place of its choosing.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/229374-in...on-exposed-by-balakot-residents?5c7524f5e2682
 
the Great Khan said:
Unfortunatley this is a very very dangerous situation. Whoever advised Modi to do this has made a big mistake. Yous ee the pressure now on IK and the pakistan govt is simply rising. They have to respond. There is simply no question now. The level of response is what will have to be assessed. I listened to the press conference with shah mehmood and the others and its quite clear that there is real anger in the public and some really hard questions for the PAF. they will have to respond. Even a small incursion like this has caused such a big issue. Its really testing pakistans red lines. And its all so uneccessary. We have ad emocratic popular govt in place, india just had to engage. but alas Modi needs to chest thump.

I think the PAF are going to flatten some structures on the LOC. No artillery like last time. I think they IA are going to face the brunt.
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Right now, majority of Pakistan is willing to buy the initial response. Nothing major took place, and India is the one with egg on their face. The pressure to respond is not that great - they are not boxed into a corner like India was. They have been sensible with their statements so far.

Onus is on the Army on whether they want to escalate. They have the option not to, without losing much credibility. The only thing that can push them is if the Indian media pumps up the chest thumping and releases footage.

Again, right now both sides have been able to successfully peddle their own narrative. International media has also been careful to mention both sides of the story when covering it.
 
The LOC was breached by Indian jets, it doesn't matter if no damage was done. Pakistan will be forced to respond in some manner otherwise the "minimal credible deterrence" policy will go up in smoke.
 
MosheD said:
Quite dumb if true. Aggressor has the advantage of surprise. Now India is just waiting and have most definitely wargamed this scenario and have the air defences primed. Losing a few more planes will rub salt on the wounds
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True, it looks like taking the bait!
 
DRsohail said:
[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] tell these guys what india achieved and what pakistan lost...sign of desperation from neighbours.i ave a friend from balakoat kpk according to him nothing has happened there.
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I think this "surgical strike" was about as surgical as the last one. Its Modi desperation for re-election that is racheting up the tensions. I hope PK humiliates them like we did after the last "Surgical strike".
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Yes very good. Let's see the response shall we. India have a opened up a Pandora's box here. Pakistan is in a tight corner now. Respond and it will escalate. Don't and lose credibility. Intelligent thinking required to judge the right answer.
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Yeah.

Pakistan in a bit of a pickle cos India didn't attack civilians or military.

Only time will tell what will happen.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Yeah.

Pakistan in a bit of a pickle cos India didn't attack civilians or military.

Only time will tell what will happen.
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Not really. India has been threatening 'hot pursuit' for a long time so both countries must have multiple contingency plans and political justifications for all eventualities. Not saying those justifications would be based on truth but truth is the first casualty in such cases anyway. Pakistan can come up with any number of excuses if it really wants to respond. Firing across the LOC is common enough for either side to use as an excuse for a small skirmish or limited airstrike. The world won't care which side's version is correct, it will just want deescalation with power brokers like the US, China or Russia exploiting the situation for their own benefit as much as possible.
 
Jin Chacha said:
Not really. India has been threatening 'hot pursuit' for a long time so both countries must have multiple contingency plans and political justifications for all eventualities. Not saying those justifications would be based on truth but truth is the first casualty in such cases anyway. Pakistan can come up with any number of excuses if it really wants to respond. Firing across the LOC is common enough for either side to use as an excuse for a small skirmish or limited airstrike. The world won't care which side's version is correct, it will just want deescalation with power brokers like the US, China or Russia exploiting the situation for their own benefit as much as possible.
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You misunderstood me.

Point is Pakistan can respond and probably will. The question is whom does it attack.

India is looking for Pakistan to fall into this trap to retaliate and create international pressure.

Ideal scenario for India would be shooting down Pak jets. Matter will end there if that happens.

Deescalation is assured no matter what. That we all can agree.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
So Imran Khan and Pak establishment is organizing emergency meeting based on Indian drama? :))

‘Fully prepared to respond’, says Pakistan, holds emergency meet after IAF strike

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw3kdLpSgM5bTusfhDDYu0Ha&ust=1551256838632758
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You'll find all sort of sources, news, articles, confirmations or support for any idea on internet. Heck, even, for the argument that earth is flat :yk

That said, I mean come on bruh. It is hilarious :yk
 
ISPR Presser live now with visuals. Now that's quick

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Heavy firing has started. We can hear it in Azad Kashmir. Let's pray theirs no war. But past half hour very heavy firing can be heard.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
You misunderstood me.

Point is Pakistan can respond and probably will. The question is whom does it attack.

India is looking for Pakistan to fall into this trap to retaliate and create international pressure.

Ideal scenario for India would be shooting down Pak jets. Matter will end there if that happens.

Deescalation is assured no matter what. That we all can agree.
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If there is a response it would most probably be against Indian military targets. While Pakistan has previously blamed India for fueling unrest in Balochistan and Karachi, both those situations are pretty much under control now so I doubt Pakistan would like to use anti-Pakistan elements on Indian soil as an excuse. Plus any action would likely be across the LOC rather than the international border so only military targets would be viable options. Having said that it doesn't necessarily have to be an airstrike. Something on the model of two year old Indian 'surgical strikes' close to the LOC would offer both sides more deniability and face saving than an airstrike.

Also when it comes to international pressure, Pakistan's policy has always been to internationalise the Kashmir issue and portray it as a nuclear flashpoint while India always wants to downplay it as an internal or at most bilateral issue. From that perspective Pakistan won't really mind the international attention or pressure.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Indian media's claim that the IAF jets remained in Pakistan's airspace for 21 minutes is ridiculous. We dare them to come and stay in our airspace for 21 mins - <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OfficialDGISPR</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Balakot?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Balakot</a></p>— Ali Salman Alvi (@alisalmanalvi) <a href="https://twitter.com/alisalmanalvi/status/1100374850047275008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Actual names of terrorists killed have been mentioned. So now the onus on on Pakistan, and these terrorists should be alive and so should come to make a live statement if the strike never happened in their opinion.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Where <a href="https://twitter.com/IndiaToday?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IndiaToday</a> claimed it to be a footage of Mirage 2000, <a href="https://twitter.com/CNNnews18?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CNNnews18</a> claimed it to be their exclusive footage of Pak's response to IAF strikes, one after another, almost all Indian media channels played a 2017 footage as IAF strike footage on JeM camps<a href="https://t.co/I3kQDvzeOG">https://t.co/I3kQDvzeOG</a></p>— Pratik Sinha (@free_thinker) <a href="https://twitter.com/free_thinker/status/1100371594344648706?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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someone21 said:
Actual names of terrorists killed have been mentioned. So now the onus on on Pakistan, and these terrorists should be alive and so should come to make a live statement if the strike never happened in their opinion.
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Yes they had everything ready.

It’s 300 names or is it 700 like all the Indian news channels are reporting ?

Indian media is the biggest joke in the world, they are now using fake video footage to back their claims.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> should be ready for our suprise, says <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DGISPR?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DGISPR</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Watch?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Watch</a> Live: <a href="https://t.co/W5UiYRTwLo">https://t.co/W5UiYRTwLo</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DunyaNews?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DunyaNews</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DunyaUpdates?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DunyaUpdates</a><a href="https://twitter.com/pmln_org?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@pmln_org</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PTIofficial</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MediaCellPPP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MediaCellPPP</a> <a href="https://t.co/WU0XkXXtZG">pic.twitter.com/WU0XkXXtZG</a></p>— Dunya News (@DunyaNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/DunyaNews/status/1100377626689048576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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someone21 said:
Actual names of terrorists killed have been mentioned. So now the onus on on Pakistan, and these terrorists should be alive and so should come to make a live statement if the strike never happened in their opinion.
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What? The onus is on the accuser to provide the proof.
 
Seems like Imran khan is having the final say this time. Army is looking for his directions
 
This means war India is attacking and hampering our billion tree tsunami :))) :))) :)))




What a ghatiya nation
 
Zahid87 said:
Right now, majority of Pakistan is willing to buy the initial response. Nothing major took place, and India is the one with egg on their face. The pressure to respond is not that great - they are not boxed into a corner like India was. They have been sensible with their statements so far.

Onus is on the Army on whether they want to escalate. They have the option not to, without losing much credibility. The only thing that can push them is if the Indian media pumps up the chest thumping and releases footage.

Again, right now both sides have been able to successfully peddle their own narrative. International media has also been careful to mention both sides of the story when covering it.
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Disagree. Pakistan spends a lot of resources on military defence on the basis of self preservation, and many have argued that they spend far too much considering that money could be diverted to uplifting the living standards of the population instead.

If India can invade Paksitani air space unprovoked and drop bombs, regardless of whether they killed terrorists or trees, then that puts the govt leadership and the military budget into question. Will the public really accept spending millions on hardware if the army sits on it's hands whenever Indian jets feel like a quick flyover?
 
From Dawn

Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor, the director general (DG) of Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), is holding a press conference on India's violation on the Line of Control (LoC) earlier in the day.

The ISPR DG started with a presentation, highlighting claims made by the Indian media. "They are claiming that they remained in the Pakistani airspace for 21 minutes and killed 350 terrorists. They claim that the second strike was in Muzaffarabad and the third in Chakothi.

"Allah almighty is the greatest and we should not make tall claims, but come and try to spend 21 minutes in Pakistani airspace."

"According to war methodology, our entire Air Force could not have stayed airborne. Our safeguards on land were in place. So if they had tried an on-ground incursion, they would have met the response that we had planned.

"Last night, our radars were observing them. They had earlier come closer to our border but did not cross it. Last night, their first visibility was observed near the Sialkot and Lahore border. They were seen approaching the border. Our Combat Air Patrol (CAP) team approached and challenged them. They did not cross.

"As per the SOP (standard operating procedure), when the first team got committed there, the next CAP team automatically was airborne. During this, another one of their formation was picked in Bahawalpur sector. The second standby team went down south and challenged it. We then observed that the more heavier of their teams was approaching Muzaffarabad sector from Kiran Valley. When our third CAP team challenged them, they had crossed the LoC.

Early on Tuesday, the army spokesperson had said that Indian military planes violated the LoC, intruding from the Muzaffarabad sector, following which "Pakistan Air Force immediately scrambled" and Indian aircraft went back.

This is a developing story.
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cricketjoshila said:
Your ISPR admitted that we went to Balakote.

He confirmed we released payload.

Now thats bombing Pakistani territory.
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Why this hindutva given any importance?

Any sensible a Pakistani knows that Indian has just shot at trees to elimiyskurce of oxygen.

Stop feeding his ego, a soldier from the comfort of his home.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
So if Pakistan enters India to find some "terrorist camps" , India would be happy ?

Ecstatic?

Right?
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If there are any internationally banned terror outfits residing in India and attacking Pakistan, and Pak army attacking them....we have no issues. But remember, there are no terror camps in India which does cross border terrorism. Yes, there are naxalites in central India and govt is dealing with them regularly.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
And by the way whichever Indian is "applauding" the Indian act can help by " joining the NEXT incursion".

If you cant do that, then shut your trap and let the governments work into a solution.
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This is idiotic logic. You can have opinions on things without being directly involved. Do you need to be a teacher to have a say in your kid's education? Or a doctor to judge the treatment you're getting?
 
PM Imran Khan has clearly told us today that its your Turn now : DG ISPR
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Modi has put India on danger by wounding one person and digging four holes in Pakistan the air attack! 2 minutes of airspace violation was not to destroy the terror camps in Pakistan but to destroy the opposition attack at home. <a href="https://t.co/bm55qRFeWw">https://t.co/bm55qRFeWw</a></p>— Ashok Swain (@ashoswai) <a href="https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1100379255815303170?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
Disagree. Pakistan spends a lot of resources on military defence on the basis of self preservation, and many have argued that they spend far too much considering that money could be diverted to uplifting the living standards of the population instead.

If India can invade Paksitani air space unprovoked and drop bombs, regardless of whether they killed terrorists or trees, then that puts the govt leadership and the military budget into question. Will the public really accept spending millions on hardware if the army sits on it's hands whenever Indian jets feel like a quick flyover?
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This is not the public line though is it....

The line is that they tried to enter, got 3km inside, and were forced back. That's what they are feeding the public, and people are ready to lap it up.

That should end things.
 
I posted this in another thread, but this seems to be the main thread on this subject...


Here's an NY Times article on it:

"Western security officials have raised questions about the existence of a large-scale training camp, saying that Pakistan no longer runs such camps and that militant groups are spread out in small groups around the country."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/w...hmir-jets.html

According to NY Times, Pakistan doesn't run any such training camps anymore, and that India may have been trying to show strength to their domestic audience while minimizing risk of retaliation by Pakistan.
 
WebGuru said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Modi has put India on danger by wounding one person and digging four holes in Pakistan the air attack! 2 minutes of airspace violation was not to destroy the terror camps in Pakistan but to destroy the opposition attack at home. <a href="https://t.co/bm55qRFeWw">https://t.co/bm55qRFeWw</a></p>— Ashok Swain (@ashoswai) <a href="https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1100379255815303170?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Hindutva and Bhakths will afk him to move yo Pakistan .

Can’t believe these hindutva and Bhakths are so gullible.
 
Zahid87 said:
This is not the public line though is it....

The line is that they tried to enter, got 3km inside, and were forced back. That's what they are feeding the public, and people are ready to lap it up.

That should end things.
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That's still 3km inside Pakistan territory, and that means they still bombed Pakistan land. I don't think they can leave it be, a response is now obligatory.
 
slipcatch said:
Hindutva and Bhakths will afk him to move yo Pakistan .

Can’t believe these hindutva and Bhakths are so gullible.
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He is living outside India and is Anti Hindutva
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Often people ask me, being a Hindu why do I despise Hindutva politics - I am not an atheist, rather a temple-going practicing Hindu. Here I explain why I hate Hindutva's hate of Minorities! <a href="https://t.co/s18hpchXg7">https://t.co/s18hpchXg7</a></p>— Ashok Swain (@ashoswai) <a href="https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1066680440654913537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
Disagree. Pakistan spends a lot of resources on military defence on the basis of self preservation, and many have argued that they spend far too much considering that money could be diverted to uplifting the living standards of the population instead.

If India can invade Paksitani air space unprovoked and drop bombs, regardless of whether they killed terrorists or trees, then that puts the govt leadership and the military budget into question. Will the public really accept spending millions on hardware if the army sits on it's hands whenever Indian jets feel like a quick flyover?
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Pakistan has a military budget that is a fraction of India's. So we must be realistic here in how quickly Pakistan can respond. According to an article I read on some Indian news site, India had multiple aircraft as decoys heading in separate directions towards Pakistan, for instance.

When it comes to conventional warfare, Pakistan is obviously very outnumbered and over-matched in terms of budgetary considerations. Hence the focus on missiles and nuclear response.

Everything I've read suggests that this is enough to appease the Indian population and boost the election prospects of Modi while minimizing retaliation from Pakistan.
 
Abdullah719 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> should be ready for our suprise, says <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DGISPR?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DGISPR</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Watch?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Watch</a> Live: <a href="https://t.co/W5UiYRTwLo">https://t.co/W5UiYRTwLo</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DunyaNews?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DunyaNews</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DunyaUpdates?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DunyaUpdates</a><a href="https://twitter.com/pmln_org?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@pmln_org</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PTIofficial</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MediaCellPPP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MediaCellPPP</a> <a href="https://t.co/WU0XkXXtZG">pic.twitter.com/WU0XkXXtZG</a></p>— Dunya News (@DunyaNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/DunyaNews/status/1100377626689048576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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What does that statement even mean?
 
India made a big error.

Like the DG ISPR said "Its better to have a clever enemy than a foolish friend. Our misfortune is we have a foolish enemy."
 
ravisurya said:
Weren't you happy when Osama was caught and killed by the US army even though it was in Pakistan?
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Entering a sovereign country is act of war.

No matter if you come inside to take out "terrorists" or to "kill the trees".

If you think it is "Justifiable" ask your government to prepare for a full scale war or stop with the stupid Osama ideologies.
 
Sachin136 said:
This is idiotic logic. You can have opinions on things without being directly involved. Do you need to be a teacher to have a say in your kid's education? Or a doctor to judge the treatment you're getting?
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But I won't go and "slap" the teacher for not teaching properly, neither will I go and "attack" the doctor for failing to impart the proper medicine.

That's what India seems to be doing.
 
Regardless of what has happened. Pakistan need to take a stance we can't just let them do this ankh macholi. We must drop down their planes if they ever care to violate LOC again.
 
By the way, why doesn't India release footage of the bombing? The US was doing that in the first gulf war. That would settle the question.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
Pakistan has a military budget that is a fraction of India's. So we must be realistic here in how quickly Pakistan can respond. According to an article I read on some Indian news site, India had multiple aircraft as decoys heading in separate directions towards Pakistan, for instance.

When it comes to conventional warfare, Pakistan is obviously very outnumbered and over-matched in terms of budgetary considerations. Hence the focus on missiles and nuclear response.

Everything I've read suggests that this is enough to appease the Indian population and boost the election prospects of Modi while minimizing retaliation from Pakistan.
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Then perhaps Pakistan could look at reducing expenditure on jets and helicopters and divert those funds into missile technology instead. Essentially Pakistan's air warfare capacity would be deemed as a white elephant if they can't respond when a hostile invasion occurs. In any case, some response is needed, a missile strike on Indian cactus in desert areas might be considered a fair answer.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
If there are any internationally banned terror outfits residing in India and attacking Pakistan, and Pak army attacking them....we have no issues. But remember, there are no terror camps in India which does cross border terrorism. Yes, there are naxalites in central India and govt is dealing with them regularly.
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Really bro?

So you have NO issues, if ANOTHER country ENTERS YOUR AIRSPACE on their own LOGIC and your army and government will not SAY ANYTHING?

Lol.

Stop with the delusional comments.
 
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