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PAF chases away Indian jets after LoC airspace violation

Major said:
he keeps claiming that there were actually 200-300 people killed, but yet he says no official figure has been given by the Indian Army itself i have said its impossible for a place to come and go away quickly in the dark to know how many it had killed

now he claims that it was not an official number, but from the media, hence, even he doesnt know the official number. Probably it was 0.

Thus, when he himself admits no official number has been given, then what the hell is he even celebrating about?
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Where did i claim 200-300 numbers?
 
Bilal7 said:
Probably a new high-tech, made-in-Israel bomb that simply disintegrates up to 300 terrorists (ineffective on civilians, of course) at a time...
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But the bomb was deadly for trees...
 
WebGuru said:
Adeel Raja producer of ARY standing at site. Love the hashtag :))
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">12:30am and am there on spot; from what I see here, there is no camp here and certainly no casualties, a few mud houses and that is just about it. A 5 feet crater hardly qualifies a 1000kg bomb <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FakeSurgicalStrike?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FakeSurgicalStrike</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZfRQG3LHBq">pic.twitter.com/ZfRQG3LHBq</a></p>— Adeel Raja (@adeelraja) <a href="https://twitter.com/adeelraja/status/1100477180310630400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Standing right where the bomb dropped, you can see the tree in backdrop same as in pics tweeted by <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OfficialDGISPR</a> - Let me tell you, there is NO camp here, no casualties, the only casualties here are a few beautiful trees, this strike is a dud! <a href="https://t.co/EASPAApaCF">pic.twitter.com/EASPAApaCF</a></p>— Adeel Raja (@adeelraja) <a href="https://twitter.com/adeelraja/status/1100476265096794112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are a few more pics from the site; this sure is a dud strike <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaAgainstTreePlantation?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaAgainstTreePlantation</a> seems true. Beautiful trees down here! <a href="https://t.co/TmsiiTx7KQ">pic.twitter.com/TmsiiTx7KQ</a></p>— Adeel Raja (@adeelraja) <a href="https://twitter.com/adeelraja/status/1100479443242500096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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ARY tv. Yes we believe him.
 
Bilal7 said:
I wonder why Jaish have not released any statements thus far. Either they are too busy laughing at India's lies or preparing another attack...
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You actually touched on a vital point here. Let’s for a minute admit that Jaish Or LeT have carried out those big attacks in India, man they are not able to stop them, and they dream of destroying Pak Army. I am sure some soldiers from Pak Army can get into India and create some real damage there, and something like that is about to happen. They will not know what hit them.
 
WebGuru said:
Not a single injured person or dead body arrived in any hospital of Abbottabad. So i wonder where they all disappeared? Not a single video clip / pic over internet in this era of social media? Hard to digest these facts or maybe we should all start believing Indian media blindly...
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Who knows.. maybe it was quick clean up job by the army personnel on the ground to avoid embarrassment. Or it was too secluded a place for cameras to be around. If I remember right, there wasn't any live pics of the Abbottabad raid either despite being in the middle of a town. It happens.

Personally, I believe the 300 figure is probably an exaggeration and count is low enough to dispose of the remains quickly...
 
JaDed said:
None as far as I can see..anyone can correct me..
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Your media is barking about 100s of dead people and that the whole Pakistan is busy sewing «kafan» for them. You don’t have a single TV channel people cab trist?
 
JaDed said:
None as far as I can see..anyone can correct me..
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Then were did the "350" figure come from? What about the whole story about there being a five-star resort where Jaish were all being treated as VIP?

If this was fake news, then you should really do something about your media.
 
Thomaskutty said:
Who knows.. maybe it was quick clean up job by the army personnel on the ground to avoid embarrassment. Or it was too secluded a place for cameras to be around. If I remember right, there wasn't any live pics of the Abbottabad raid either despite being in the middle of a town. It happens.

Personally, I believe the 300 figure is probably an exaggeration and count is low enough to dispose of the remains quickly...
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There are russian/ american sattelites, just show some pictures of the damaged areas if you don’t believe Pakistan media.
 
JaDed said:
They said no one died I thought..
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Yes their social media oulets released an audio tape by Massod Azahr's younger brother in which he first described what the claim osnand then denied it.

It makes sense why Indian media isn't giving much air time to it while Pakistani media never paid attention to their statements otherwise they would know commander Rashid was an actual JeM commander and not something Indians made up.

Unfortunately I don't have any third party source yet.
 
Thomaskutty said:
Who knows.. maybe it was quick clean up job by the army personnel on the ground to avoid embarrassment. Or it was too secluded a place for cameras to be around. If I remember right, there wasn't any live pics of the Abbottabad raid either despite being in the middle of a town. It happens.

Personally, I believe the 300 figure is probably an exaggeration and count is low enough to dispose of the remains quickly...
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There was a picture of Osama that was released and the compound was clearly shot up. There were also witnesses who testified to the whole thing. Don't compare the American army to your lot, please.

How do you dispose of the remains of a 1000 kg bomb so quickly that not even the local villagers around the area notice anything? Also, just a side-note, but there is a Nigerian prince in need who needs $200 to release his frozen funds, who will compensate you generously if you help him out...
 
slipcatch said:
Major,

Can’t you see that this guy is here to spin the narrative after a dud strike to kill trees and mud on the ground.

No matter what evidence you’ll provide, NYT, guardian or any other source, his job is to discredit it. I just hope he is getting paid well for doing that.

He knows damn well they didn’t kill anyone on that air strike.
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yeh, but i want him to answer.

thing is, he and his counterparts dont even answer aswell.
 
Australia asks India, Pakistan to 'exercise restraint' and engage in dialogue

Australia on Tuesday urged India and Pakistan to "exercise restraint" and engage in dialogue to ensure issues are resolved peacefully even as it asked Islamabad to take "urgent and meaningful" action against terrorist groups including JeM operating from its soil. Australian foreign affairs minister Marise Payne's statement came hours after Indian fighter jets struck Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM)'s biggest terror camp in Pakistan in a pre-dawn attack.

https://m-timesofindia-com.cdn.ampp...errer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s
 
Pakistani's need to realize that the only nation with anything to lose from this conflict is India. We are already facing some tough times and this will only unify and strengthen our country. On the other hand India's economy could be devastated with any military escalation. So if they want to play these little games we should welcome it not back down from it.
 
cricketjoshila said:
No number was given. You think Indian airforce counted the number of bodies?
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:)))

What sort of intelligence agencies does your country even have? Who just goes and drops bombs without knowing the potential casualties and other details?
 
Even the soldiers families in India are raising questions. Where are the bodies of the terrorists who were killed? This mother of an indian soldier calling this operation fake

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Martyrs’ families are raising questions. Where are the bodies of the terrorists who were killed?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Surgicalstrike2?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Surgicalstrike2</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/priyankac19?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@priyankac19</a><a href="https://t.co/0FhNwNPH0I">pic.twitter.com/0FhNwNPH0I</a></p>— Md.Sher Ali | مُحمّد شیر علی (@MohammadSherAl6) <a href="https://twitter.com/MohammadSherAl6/status/1100407937678209025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
WebGuru said:
Even the soldiers families in India are raising questions. Where are the bodies of the terrorists who were killed? This mother of an indian soldier calling this operation fake

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Martyrs’ families are raising questions. Where are the bodies of the terrorists who were killed?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Surgicalstrike2?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Surgicalstrike2</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/priyankac19?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@priyankac19</a><a href="https://t.co/0FhNwNPH0I">pic.twitter.com/0FhNwNPH0I</a></p>— Md.Sher Ali | مُحمّد شیر علی (@MohammadSherAl6) <a href="https://twitter.com/MohammadSherAl6/status/1100407937678209025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Poor lady, isey who ab marwa den gaye.
 
Indian news reporting Pakistan will take United Nations Military Observers to the location to prove no camps were hit but only trees.
 
WebGuru said:
Even the soldiers families in India are raising questions. Where are the bodies of the terrorists who were killed? This mother of an indian soldier calling this operation fake

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Martyrs’ families are raising questions. Where are the bodies of the terrorists who were killed?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Surgicalstrike2?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Surgicalstrike2</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/priyankac19?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@priyankac19</a><a href="https://t.co/0FhNwNPH0I">pic.twitter.com/0FhNwNPH0I</a></p>— Md.Sher Ali | مُحمّد شیر علی (@MohammadSherAl6) <a href="https://twitter.com/MohammadSherAl6/status/1100407937678209025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Lol and NDTV was interviewing few martyrs family who are calling it as revenge served. Both countries media doing propaganda.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Indian news reporting Pakistan will take United Nations Military Observers to the location to prove no camps were hit but only trees.
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A western analyst has also observed the area and he outlined that the apparent militant camps had shifted from that area few months ago.

The source was NY Times.
 
IAJ said:
Poor lady, isey who ab marwa den gaye.
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I can feel her pain i am from a family where 70 to 80% males are serving/served in Pak Army/PAF so i can feel for the families of soldiers from both side of the border they are the one who really suffer in the end while others cheer for wars, nukes and strikes without even thinking about the consequences.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Indian news reporting Pakistan will take United Nations Military Observers to the location to prove no camps were hit but only trees.
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This is fantastic from Pakistan. Make them a laughing stock and that way, even the simple-minded Pakistani "bahadurs" who are crying for blood will regain their honor and war will be averted.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
Lol and NDTV was interviewing few martyrs family who are calling it as revenge served. Both countries media doing propaganda.
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Did they see any of the dead terrorists, destroyed infrastructure or any sort of proof?
 
Minnowbasher said:
France are the most racist and islamophobic European country and so I am hardly surprised. Sorry to bring religion in but it's true. France will always favour India as will most western countries. Their opinion is hardly significant though ad they cannot do much.
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Its not like that, France has actually supported us throughout even if you notice other situations..very similar to China's support to Pak..
 
Minnowbasher said:
France are the most racist and islamophobic European country and so I am hardly surprised. Sorry to bring religion in but it's true. France will always favour India as will most western countries. Their opinion is hardly significant though ad they cannot do much.
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Asking to act on terror outfit is not islamophobic. Terrorists have no religion, think you are forgetting yourself. Also, Australian Foreign minister said the same. Is she racist too? :inti
 
WebGuru said:
Even the soldiers families in India are raising questions. Where are the bodies of the terrorists who were killed? This mother of an indian soldier calling this operation fake

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Martyrs’ families are raising questions. Where are the bodies of the terrorists who were killed?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Surgicalstrike2?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Surgicalstrike2</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/priyankac19?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@priyankac19</a><a href="https://t.co/0FhNwNPH0I">pic.twitter.com/0FhNwNPH0I</a></p>— Md.Sher Ali | مُحمّد شیر علی (@MohammadSherAl6) <a href="https://twitter.com/MohammadSherAl6/status/1100407937678209025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Waiting to see how Bhakths will spin this around,

Hahahahaha
 
Canford Cliffs said:
Asking to act on terror outfit is not islamophobic. Terrorists have no religion, think you are forgetting yourself. Also, Australian Foreign minister said the same. Is she racist too? :inti
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Exactly, but radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists need to be eliminated from India and only sane Hindus of Indian can do it.
 
Theo_14 said:
A western analyst has also observed the area and he outlined that the apparent militant camps had shifted from that area few months ago.

The source was NY Times.
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Prob a group of lads out camping for a few days. You have to be an idiot to make a training camp near the border and call all your buddies to sit there and wait to be bombed.
 
Bilal7 said:
:)))

What sort of intelligence agencies does your country even have? Who just goes and drops bombs without knowing the potential casualties and other details?
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Intelligence tells you how many persons are there not how many died
 
Minnowbasher said:
France are the most racist and islamophobic European country and so I am hardly surprised. Sorry to bring religion in but it's true. France will always favour India as will most western countries. Their opinion is hardly significant though ad they cannot do much.
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So western nations like France which is UNSC member and similar countries do not matter. Who matters then?
 
Sachin136 said:
Still not out of the colonial mindset I see.
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Nope, just plain embarrassing and jingo. Tell me why you are in Brooklyn and not in India ? Im just as patriotic as you, I just don't easily fall for this rubbish news.
 
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Bilal7 said:
Then why does it feel like the Indian posters want war more than the overseas Pakistanis? Do they not know what war is or do they have nothing to lose in the great country of India?
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Like I said, upbringing in developed nation, world class education, education with open mind, open minded people. Then on the other hand it is the 3rd world that is ignorant for most part. Wanna guess why the one laughs at the other ?
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Today is the first time in my 33 years i feel like shouting Allah O Akbar...

And praying to Allah to destroy the infidels and the evil enemy who is trying to attack Pakistan.

Ameen.

Allah will be with Pakistan inshAllah.
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Are you actually a doctor ? Never seen a doctor shout at god and especially saying something this embarrassing. Go fight if you want to, why are you praying for destruction and chaos. You are the one who isn't going to die. Stop being so selfish
 
cricketjoshila said:
So western nations like France which is UNSC member and similar countries do not matter. Who matters then?
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How will this play for Modi? A surgical strike will bring him laurels but a war surely must go against him no? He became a PM amidst fears that he will be a war mongering radical against Islam but he allayed those fears with world class diplomacy with Arab world and even with Pakistan in phases. Wouldn't this incident bring those old fears back before elections? Do Congress and other parties want war too? Is there political consensus for this?
 
Taaya said:
The "payload" your forces dropped was NOT in KPK. It was in Azad Kashmir just a few km from the LOC. Your own sources have confirmed this. Get a clue.
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Apparently the Mirage is a heavy jet and it’s a common thing to drop payload to reduce weight and hence go faster. Bomb was dropped to run away and not for surgery.
 
NDTV is still insisting over 300 terrorists were killed. The host is saying sources from the millitary.

I mean is that it ? This is a major India news network and all they can tell their viewers is sources.

They are basically just regurgitating propaganda without any hint of questioning such a claim.
 
this is getting really ugly.. dont know wether to believe twitter sources or not but things are not looking good at all..
 
people claiming to hear jets flying over their houses in karachi, sialkot and islamabad.. dont know true or not..
 
war is not an option.. people who are blindly supporting war must consider consequences to follow..
 
WebGuru said:
Even the soldiers families in India are raising questions. Where are the bodies of the terrorists who were killed? This mother of an indian soldier calling this operation fake

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Martyrs’ families are raising questions. Where are the bodies of the terrorists who were killed?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Surgicalstrike2?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Surgicalstrike2</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/priyankac19?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@priyankac19</a><a href="https://t.co/0FhNwNPH0I">pic.twitter.com/0FhNwNPH0I</a></p>— Md.Sher Ali | مُحمّد شیر علی (@MohammadSherAl6) <a href="https://twitter.com/MohammadSherAl6/status/1100407937678209025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Looks like the Indian soldiers were mostly Sikhs and a few muslims.
 
NDTV claiming that India will release pre strike satellite images proving a terrorist camp. Apparently they can't get the post satellite images until 28th due to cloud cover. They will release post strike images after 28th to show the camp destroyed
 
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MoJoJoJo said:
this is getting really ugly.. dont know wether to believe twitter sources or not but things are not looking good at all..
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It was hot, but things probably de-escalated by morning. Pak was just wanting to give Ind a bloody nose.
 
rhony said:
NDTV claiming that India will release pre strike satellite images proving a terrorist camp. Apparently they can't get the post satellite images until 28th due to cloud cover. They will release post strike images after 28th to show the camp destroyed
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I havent come across a single weather website suggesting it will be cloudy all day on 27th. All are saying sunny and clear for most of the day.
 
KingKhanWC said:
I havent come across a single weather website suggesting it will be cloudy all day on 27th. All are saying sunny and clear for most of the day.
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Didn't Pak army indicate they can't take press to the site due to bad weather until later?

"Ghafoor said that he was ready to take the media to the place where payload fell to show that there was no damage done, but cancelled the trip due to bad weather. He added that apart from the media, defence attaches can also go."
 
Minnowbasher said:
France are the most racist and islamophobic .
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And China is the most liberal and peace loving ? Havent heard a peep from China and like all previous conflicts they are just sitting by the side with popcorn and a cola. "Best Friends" no doubt. If anyone can rattle India at this point it would be China - nothing Pakistan does is going to really matter
 
rhony said:
Didn't Pak army indicate they can't take press to the site due to bad weather until later?

"Ghafoor said that he was ready to take the media to the place where payload fell to show that there was no damage done, but cancelled the trip due to bad weather. He added that apart from the media, defence attaches can also go."
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There is light rain there now but should be clear for most of the day on the 27th. But lets wait until the 28th and see what India comes up with. NDTV have images of the so called site building inc photos from inside but it's not verified.
 
MosheD said:
And China is the most liberal and peace loving ? Havent heard a peep from China and like all previous conflicts they are just sitting by the side with popcorn and a cola. "Best Friends" no doubt. If anyone can rattle India at this point it would be China - nothing Pakistan does is going to really matter
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China knows nothing was hit so whats the point?
 
KingKhanWC said:
China knows nothing was hit so whats the point?
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in that case this is an overreaction - the statements issued by the Pak armed forces is way too strong and sounds like something indeed happened. Jets flying across the boundary for a few mins and being chased back doesn't warrant a "reply at a time and place of our choosing" - unless it was indeed an airstrike
 
KingKhanWC said:
There is light rain there now but should be clear for most of the day on the 27th. But lets wait until the 28th and see what India comes up with. NDTV have images of the so called site building inc photos from inside but it's not verified.
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Yeah saw those building images with labels but they don't mean anything. Satellite pics should explain
 
MosheD said:
in that case this is an overreaction - the statements issued by the Pak armed forces is way too strong and sounds like something indeed happened. Jets flying across the boundary for a few mins and being chased back doesn't warrant a "reply at a time and place of our choosing" - unless it was indeed an airstrike
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Violated air space and took down a few of our trees. In response Pakistan chased out their jets and started to bombard their positions across the LOC. Pakistan isnt Iraq,Aghanistan,Syria,Libya or any other Muslim nation, it will attack hard in return for any breach.
 
Realromeo said:
Are you actually a doctor ? Never seen a doctor shout at god and especially saying something this embarrassing. Go fight if you want to, why are you praying for destruction and chaos. You are the one who isn't going to die. Stop being so selfish
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Dr Bassim is a top poster, he is in my top 5 best posters here. Everyone has a tipping point, you have just to let things be and hope things don't escalate further from here..
 
MosheD said:
in that case this is an overreaction - the statements issued by the Pak armed forces is way too strong and sounds like something indeed happened. Jets flying across the boundary for a few mins and being chased back doesn't warrant a "reply at a time and place of our choosing" - unless it was indeed an airstrike
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Encroaching other's air space is not a joke. And then bombing it is even more serious. Forget the 300 number of tree strikes. I believe Pak showed restraint for a few hours trying to gather international support. When it wasn't forthcoming, they went ahead with the ground retaliation. There is world leadership missing. Don't see Americans or Chinese say much so far other than to advise both countries to show restraint. Either that or they have been assured that this is a minimum engagement with no major repercussions. I've been extremely wrong so far in predicting India's restraint but this is what I think at this point.
 
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