Chokli
First Class Captain
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They don't deserve anything
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What do you expect from a 6th ranked team that has played like minnows for two years? We are closer in level to the likes of Afghanistan than teams like India, England etc., whom we can only beat by fluke. However, today, we had to fluke a win against Afghanistan as well.
This is a new low for Pakistan cricket. Probably the most humiliating victory in our history.
Forgot the Asia Cup game?
Malik was gifted deliveries on the legside by either Gulbadein or Aftab Alam.
It's a second escape which means we will lose in the coming years. We avoided losses against BD as well before becoming their hitting bag.
This is worse because it was in a World Cup. However, the one in Asia Cup was humiliating as well.
No many teams would have chased down that total with ease.. not on that wicket and against decent spinners
Well look at it the other way. If it had happened to Pakistan I would’ve been devastated
I get what you are saying bro but being jammy regularly isn't quite luck of the champions. Who knows though? The parallels with 92 are eerie.
eys pindo kadi khair di khabar nai Aai ......What do you expect from a 6th ranked team that has played like minnows for two years? We are closer in level to the likes of Afghanistan than teams like India, England etc., whom we can only beat by fluke. However, today, we had to fluke a win against Afghanistan as well.
This is a new low for Pakistan cricket. Probably the most humiliating victory in our history.
They outplayed Pakistan but were extremely unlucky with the umpiring decisions. They should hold their heads high, but their captain is a numpty.
You really believe that? I would like to, but can't imagine England or Australia having much trouble. Other than that though, it was a really weak performance with the ball as well. Pakistan got very lucky to take the first couple of wickets with bad balls, because we had been bowling garbage before that.
Pakistan got out of jail today, but at the end of the day at least the lower order showed some character to get over the line. They deserve some credit for that.
NoI have a question why hot favorite and rank no 1 England lost to Sri lanka which is a poor team than Afghanistan
I have often made an example of not replying to your posts but this is utter rubbish.
Afghanistan played well by their standards but Pakistan obviously outplayed them, hence the win. The batting was better, the bowling was better, the catching was better and the ground fielding was better.
What was unlucky exactly? Afghanistan themselves dropped chances, missed run outs and allowed singles into doubles.
I assume you will start posting that England, nz and South Africa were also unlucky right?
Pakistan can't win, they just wait for the opposition to lose. I hope this makes you happy![]()
Your rant is emotional but devoid of facts. Imad was plum LBW but the umpire didn’t give out, and unfortunately, Afghanistan didn’t have a review. We didn’t bat or bowl better than them - we just had better luck with the umpires, and their captain had a complete stinker.
Pakistan batting line up is not very strong.The batsmen lack application on tricky pitches.We need to find a couple of good batsmen who can hang around if the situation demands but who can also score quickly.A good all rounder is missing too.Funny things can happen in cricket.England cound't chase 233 against a fairly weak Sri Lankan attack.England bat very deep and it also has good all rounders.
No many teams would have chased down that total with ease.. not on that wicket and against decent spinners
Am I the only one who is not really happy with scraping wins like this in crunch moments.
Win is a win is all I am getting from alot of people.
Yes Win is a win but come on when you know you need 228 to get you have 300 balls to get it in, most teams would instill fear and attack and chase this piece of cake total by the 37th over.
Winning by 3 wickets and 2 balls to spare against a team who have lost all their 7 matches, the same spinners that got taken apart for 397 runs against a non-asian team.
Todays win was a shameful shambolic one.
I aint going to hold back. I have been a passionate pakistan cricket fan since forever. But I am not going to ignore that their are lots of weaknesses, lot of cowardly approach and this senior garbage is doing more damage to this team than good.
Give Pakistan a belting batting wicket - They are under pressure.
Bouncy wicket - They are under pressure
Spin wicket - Asian team best players of spin but fall to spinners and can't buy a run.
Bowler friendly wicket - They are under pressure.
The pitch equation does not even come in to place because as an international standard player, a superior cricketing nation if you let a 4 required run rate creep to 8 then you should hang your head in shame.
If this was a spin friendly slow dry pitch then why did shadab only take 1 wicket and Shaheen took 4 and Wahab 2 out of the 9 afghan wickets.
Whereas Afghans spinners took 5 wickets out of the 7
Pakistan are the only team who in every tournament start losing and then depend on other teams results and points to go through. That is a cowardly approach one that they have to stop doing.
Australia India New Zealand do not have to rely on wins and points they do it themselves so why is Pakistan always under pressure whether batting first or chasing in every game?
Every team is playing each other on these pitches and they don't seem to be crumbling or being under pressure.
This was Afghanistan, if you want to be in the top 4 you have to earn it you have to deserve it, playing cowardly childish amateurish cricket is not going to instill fear in other teams for the semi's.
Its all about the intent and confidence. Chase 228 with 8 wickets and 10-12 overs left then you see a rejuvenated team.
Chase it cowardly with wickets tumbling, win predictions going afghans way and then snatching the win with 2 balls left is a mental cowardly approach.
Congratulations on the win but I am not at all convinced this is a world cup winning team let alone one that deserves to be in the top 4.
Am I the only one who is not really happy with scraping wins like this in crunch moments.
Win is a win is all I am getting from alot of people.
Yes Win is a win but come on when you know you need 228 to get you have 300 balls to get it in, most teams would instill fear and attack and chase this piece of cake total by the 37th over.
Winning by 3 wickets and 2 balls to spare against a team who have lost all their 7 matches, the same spinners that got taken apart for 397 runs against a non-asian team.
Todays win was a shameful shambolic one.
I aint going to hold back. I have been a passionate pakistan cricket fan since forever. But I am not going to ignore that their are lots of weaknesses, lot of cowardly approach and this senior garbage is doing more damage to this team than good.
Give Pakistan a belting batting wicket - They are under pressure.
Bouncy wicket - They are under pressure
Spin wicket - Asian team best players of spin but fall to spinners and can't buy a run.
Bowler friendly wicket - They are under pressure.
The pitch equation does not even come in to place because as an international standard player, a superior cricketing nation if you let a 4 required run rate creep to 8 then you should hang your head in shame.
If this was a spin friendly slow dry pitch then why did shadab only take 1 wicket and Shaheen took 4 and Wahab 2 out of the 9 afghan wickets.
Whereas Afghans spinners took 5 wickets out of the 7
Pakistan are the only team who in every tournament start losing and then depend on other teams results and points to go through. That is a cowardly approach one that they have to stop doing.
Australia India New Zealand do not have to rely on wins and points they do it themselves so why is Pakistan always under pressure whether batting first or chasing in every game?
Every team is playing each other on these pitches and they don't seem to be crumbling or being under pressure.
This was Afghanistan, if you want to be in the top 4 you have to earn it you have to deserve it, playing cowardly childish amateurish cricket is not going to instill fear in other teams for the semi's.
Its all about the intent and confidence. Chase 228 with 8 wickets and 10-12 overs left then you see a rejuvenated team.
Chase it cowardly with wickets tumbling, win predictions going afghans way and then snatching the win with 2 balls left is a mental cowardly approach.
Congratulations on the win but I am not at all convinced this is a world cup winning team let alone one that deserves to be in the top 4.
If it was the case Pak could never chase 70 in 10 overs. All of our batsmen got out due to poor shots and laziness. Pitch had no demons in it.Are you crazy?
The wicket turned into spinners paradise as sun bakes down on dry wicket!! If we had won the toss and batted first it would have been game over for Afghanistan...England woujdmt have chased that today on this pitch
Your rant is emotional but devoid of facts. Imad was plum LBW but the umpire didn’t give out, and unfortunately, Afghanistan didn’t have a review. We didn’t bat or bowl better than them - we just had better luck with the umpires, and their captain had a complete stinker.
Totally agree. Thoroughly unprofessional and pathetic chase. Kudds to Imad,Shadab and Wahab for bailing us out. Also Afghan captain and some poor umpiring. Big thanks to them as well. This would have been top of my list for most awful losses by Pak team.
Are you crazy?
The wicket turned into spinners paradise as sun bakes down on dry wicket!! If we had won the toss and batted first it would have been game over for Afghanistan...England woujdmt have chased that today on this pitch
Law of averages. Pakistan were due a bad game after a string of good performances (dominant mind you). However in the next game I’d drop fakhar for Abid possibly as fakhar hasn’t done much.
I have genuinely in this world cup really fallen out with some close friends because of my view points and my opinions.
We should look at reality and keep passion and support aside. Appreciate good cricket from other teams who are winning their games on their own hardwork and effort and not being given hand outs.
This is probably the first time since forever that I have no belief or confidence in Pakistan team even we have beaten Eng a depleted South Africa New Zealand and Afghans?
How did we start the tournament cannot be forgiven or forgotten.
105 all out against a team that is lingering at the bottom 3.
Beat England (JUST) by 14 runs - not a great win by any means despite scoring a big total they still came close.
Washout against Sri Lanka
Lost against India by big margin actually not lost but SCHOOLED!
Bear a depleted south africa who really havnt been a team to be proud of.
Beat New Zealand again scraped by that win too chasing a low total.
Today - Won but like cowards!
Bangladesh are far superior in terms of experience, their spin bowlers are going to kill us worser than the Afghans and they are a much improved batting side too, they can't be taken lightly but we carry on like we will now cruise through and beat anyone in our way.
Not the way this team is playing their cricket, this instills no fear on other teams and we bat like headless chickens out there lost in a field.
Only 5 players out of the whole squad are doing their nation proud and deserve to wear that jersey
Babar
Amir
Wahab
Shaheen
Haris
To an extent Imad but not always
That is not a team that deserves the top 4 on other results nor does it deserve to lift a world cup.
Today we should have schooled Afghans and taken them apart in the first 10 overs!
We played horribly today.Allowed a terrible Afghani batting lineup to score more than they should have and messed up a really important run chase which shouldnt have been difficult with a bit of planning and understanding.
But we were better than the opposition under pressure and escaped narrowly.
And i am honestly glad that we won because i am sick of the arrogance and violence displayed by some Afghanis against Pakistan and it was time to avenge that.Would have been too humiliating otherwise.
What have they got to be arrogant about? I think you mean their frustration over Pak throwing out their people and not backing their government. "Afghan Taliban Zindabad" is my answer to them!
I do not know what could be the reason behind their arrogance, but they are ,considering the claims made by their cricket chief and the video in which their fans were claiming that they would crush Pakistan today.
That comment was anger not arrogance! Now all Afghan's will be licking their wounds including that man! Arrogance is when a community or country consider themselves to be better in term of achievement then the opponent! Afghanistan is a joke of a country under occupation for 20 years with millions of their refugee's living in Pak even India and Iran!!
To me its arrogance.
Doesnt have to be with reason.People can be unnecessarily arrogant and it comes to bite them in the a$$ because karma.
They outplayed Pakistan but were extremely unlucky with the umpiring decisions. They should hold their heads high, but their captain is a numpty.
Rashids lbw was umpires call so that went their way. You really are a sore loser man
Umpiring is also heavily in favor of bigger teams. Yesterday in the Ind vs WI, umpire made two errors when WI were bowling when DRS proved them wrong, they were reluctant to even change the decision.It is a cycle. Experienced teams punish the errors of less experienced team. Australia punished Pakistan. Pakistan punished Afghanistan.
Afghans shouldn't have scored more than 185.
Very defensive captaincy allowing easy singles and not having slip fielders. Also Shaheen only bowled 3 in his first spell.
Asghar Stanikzai is poor against pacers yet Sarfraz persisted with spin. All this allowed them to score 40 extra.
A very lucky escape ... yet again. Seems like people forgot the Asia Cup group match.
You really believe that? I would like to, but can't imagine England or Australia having much trouble. Other than that though, it was a really weak performance with the ball as well. Pakistan got very lucky to take the first couple of wickets with bad balls, because we had been bowling garbage before that.
Pakistan got out of jail today, but at the end of the day at least the lower order showed some character to get over the line. They deserve some credit for that.
Well if it was arrogance then he's ain't arrogant no more!!!)
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If we stick to cricket knowledge and not emotions, the toss was a massive factor on this pitch, with Afghanistan having mostly a all out quality spin attack it was always going to be difficult to chase down a score over 220, yes we played some bad cricket and some decisions went our way, but at the end we dug in and won that's what matters, that's Cricket for you...[/QUOTE
I don’t think Afghanistan would have scored even 150 let alone 227 if they were batting second today...
One poster, I think it was MMHS, actually advocated putting them in if we won the toss and then chase it down in 20 overs to get our NRR up... what an absurd suggestion
They outplayed Pakistan but were extremely unlucky with the umpiring decisions. They should hold their heads high, but their captain is a numpty.
with pakistan unable to put dent into their run rate means your only realistic hope to qualify is india defeating england. The way the kiwis are playing its almost certain england will steamroll roll them.
Oh yes this was a champion teams performance. Everyone is quaking in their boots after you were supposed to improve your net run rate and make light work of the only absolute gimme in this tournament.
When Pakistan lift the world cup they should look back on this atrocious match that they should have won easily.