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Pakistan all-time ODI XI

My all time PAK ODI XI

1. Saeed Anwar
2. Zaheer Abbas
3. Javed Miandad
4. Mohammad Yousaf
5. Inzamam ul Haq
6. Imran Khan (C)
7. Moin Khan
8. Wasim Akram
9. Waqar younis
10. Saqlain Mushtaq
11. Shoaib Akhtar
 
Saeed Anwar
Zaheer Abbas
Mohammad Yousuf
Javed Miandad (vc)
Inzamam ul Haq
Imran Khan (c)
Rashid Latif (wk)
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Shoaib Akhtar
Saqlain / Ajmal

12th man: Abdul Razzaq
 
why is everyone making Zaheer Abbas open ?

If this is the case , make Miandad keep , and play extra batsman.
 
Saeed Anwar
Mohammad Yousuf (I think he many not have opened in ODIs, but I think he should be able to adpat to openers slot as he had the technique).
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad
Inzamam-Ul-Haq
Imran Khan (C)
Abdur Razzaq
Moin Khan (wk)
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Saqlain Mushtaq

12th man: Shoaib Akhtar / Abdul Qadir
 
I think there are some players select themselves in the best XI

I.Khan , Zaheer Abbas , Javed Miandad, Inzamam , Saeed Anwar , Waqar Younis , wasim Akram , Saqlain Mushtaq.

That leaves us with three spots.

One opener , one wk , one and one bowler / all rounder.

WK , I think has to be someone who is good , because a bad WK would bring down the effectiveness of the quality bowling. There fore I would go with Rashid latif.

One opener can be Majid Khan. He was good against fast bowling and also would give you another seam bowling option , if required.

One more spot left. I think A. Qadir is the right man for the job. He is a quality spinner , and also no mug with the bat.

Thus the team would look like this:

Majid Khan

Saeed Anwar

Zaheer Abbas

Inzamam Ul haq

Javed Miandad

I.Khan

R.Latif

W.Akram

A.Qadir

S.Mustaq

W.Younis.


This bowling is good enough to restrict oppositions within 220 - 240. For a change Latif or Qadir can be promoted for pinch hitter to elongate the batting depth if required.

I think Abdul Qadir is a better choice than :afridi.

Also Razzak misses out because there are already 3 quality fast bowlers.
 
1. Imran Farhat
2. Imran Nazir
3. Younis Khan
4. Fasial Iqbal
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Kamran Akmal - WK
7. Shahid Afridi
8. Sohail Tanvir - C
9. Rana Naved Ul Hasan
10. Mohammad Sami
11. Danish Kaneria
 
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Saeed Anwar
Aamer Sohail
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad
Inzamam-Ul-Haq
Imran Khan (C)
Abdul Razzaq/Shahid Afridi
Moin Khan (wk)
Wasim Akram
Shoaib Akhtar
Saqlain Mushtaq

Razzaq/Afridi depending on what wicket the bowling suits.
 
1. Saeed Anwar
2. Majid Khan
3. Zaheer Abbas
4. Javed Miandad
5. Inzamam ul Haq
6. Imran Khan
7. Moin Khan (wkt)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Waqar Younis
10. Saqlain Mushtaq
11. Shoaib Akhter
 
Saeed Anwar
Tasleem Arif (Stylish wicket keeper oening bastamn- score 200 against inida)
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad
Muhammad Yosuf
Inzimam
Imran Khan
Abdur Razaq
Wasim Akram
Shoib Akhtar/Waqar Yonus
Saeed Ajmal/Abdul Qadir
 
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Saeed Anwar
Tasleem Arif (Stylish wicket keeper oening bastamn- score 200 against inida)
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad
Muhammad Yosuf
Inzimam
Imran Khan
Abdur Razaq
Wasim Akram
Shoib Akhtar/Waqar Yonus
Saeed Ajmal/Abdul Qadir

He has played very few games. Cannot judge such a player.
 
When it comes to all time Pak ODI XI there just seems to be 2 weak link Opener to partner Anwar and Wicket keeper.
By averages it should be Majid Khan but played only 13 matches as opener (avg 46)
Nasir Jamshed might be strong contender in future for this spot as he averages over 40 in 30 matches so far.
Among the rest Salman Butt is the only player to average over 35 who played 50+ matches. So he gets to be my pick.
Regarding WK only 3 players are in contention (Akmal , Moin and Latif). I'll pick Latif because he was best Keeper of the lot.

Anwar
Butt
Zaheer
Inzamam
Yousuf
Imran
Akram
Latif
Saqlain
Waqar
Akhtar/Ajmal
 
Saeed Anwar
Aamir Sohail
Inzi
Ijaz Ahmed
Moin Khan
Imran Khan (C)
Wasim
Waqar
Shoib
Saqlain
Mushaq Ahmed.



Above team would be very hard to beat...
 
Saeed Anwar
Aamir Sohail
Inzi
Ijaz Ahmed
Moin Khan
Imran Khan (C)
Wasim
Waqar
Shoib
Saqlain
Mushaq Ahmed.



Above team would be very hard to beat...

6 specialist bowlers ? It weakens the batting.

Also Abdul Qadir much better choice than :mushy
 
ALOO's All-time Pakistan ODI XI:

Saeed Anwar
Aamir Sohail
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Imran Khan (c)
Moin Khan (w)
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Saqlain Mushtaq
Abdul Qadir


Good opening partnership, strong middle-order and also decent hitters down the order. This ODI bowling attack would be as good as any IMO. Three great fast bowlers, a great leg-spinner and also the genius off-spinner Saqi. Sohail would provide the 6th bowling option with his left arm spin.
 
1. Saeed Anwar
2. Majid Khan
3. Zaheer Abbas
4. Javed Miandad
5. Inzamam-ul-Huq
6. Imran Khan (c)
7. Latif/Moin Khan
8. Wasim Akram
9. Saqlain Mushtaq
10. Waqar Younis
11. Shoaib Akhtar
 
1. Saeed Anwar
2. Majid Khan
3. Zaheer Abbas
4. Javed Miandad
5. Inzamam-ul-Huq
6. Imran Khan (c)
7. Latif/Moin Khan
8. Wasim Akram
9. Saqlain Mushtaq
10. Waqar Younis
11. Shoaib Akhtar

this..everything from 4 quality bowlers to 1 top all rounder and fine batting order
 
Many threads here about the best Pakistan XI in Tests, but what about ODI's?

Saeed Anwar
Shahid Afridi
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad
Inzamam-Ul-Haq
Imran Khan (C)
Abdul Razzaq
Moin Khan (wk)
Wasim Akram
Shoaib Akhtar
Saqlain Mushtaq

Saeed Anwar is an automatic choice, he is by far the best opener we have had. Infact, he is the only world class opener we have had. I couldn't find a place for Afridi down the order, that's why is opening. Aamer Sohail could have also opened, it would strengthen our batting but also weaken our bowling. Another option is Ijaz Ahmed, who usually played at three, but he could open without any problem.

I've never seen Zaheer Abbas play, but his records show that he must be one of Pakistan best ODI-batsman ever. Inzamam-Ul-Haq is a certainty at number five. Number four is a bit tricky, Yousuf of Miandad? Both are very good batsman, but I feel that in a team with so many strokemakers you need one to play the anchor role. Thats why I chose Miandad. Sadly no place for Salim Malik either, a very under-rated ODI batsman.

Lower down the order comes Imran Khan, no need to say more. Followed by Abdul Razzaq, the only other world-class fast-bowling allrounder we have produced. Moin Khan is a natural choice for the keeping duties and for his abilities a lower-order batsman.

Wasim Akram comes at eight, maybe the best fast-bowler in ODI's the world has ever seen. Saqlain was probably the best spinner in ODI's when at his prime. And yes, he was better than Muralitharan. The hardest decision for me was, Shoaib or Waqar? They have so identical stats that it's almost scary. But in the end I went for Shoaib.

Saeed Anwar
Yousuf
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad c
Inzamam-Ul-Haq
Abdul Razzaq
Moin Khan (wk)
Waqar Younis
Wasim Akram
Shoaib Akhtar
Saqlain Mushtaq

12th man Imran Khan

If Akthar is not fit then I will have Imran Khan in my team. Imran on his bowling alone cannot make this team and his batting is little overrated, he was basically a plodder who consumed lot of overs and rarely made big scores.

Waqar and Wasim are a must and when I have best odi spinner in Saqlain, I don't need Afridi and Razzaq will be the finisher.
 
Imran was an Allrounder and Wasim can handle the bat which should be enough IMO..

Yes what you say is true, but still 6 specialist bowlers is a too much. Imran main suit was bowling , so was Akram , ideally you would like another batsman, and :ik to be sloted at number 7
 
Saeed Anwar
Yousuf
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad c
Inzamam-Ul-Haq
Abdul Razzaq
Moin Khan (wk)
Waqar Younis
Wasim Akram
Shoaib Akhtar
Saqlain Mushtaq

12th man Imran Khan

If Akthar is not fit then I will have Imran Khan in my team. Imran on his bowling alone cannot make this team and his batting is little overrated, he was basically a plodder who consumed lot of overs and rarely made big scores.

Waqar and Wasim are a must and when I have best odi spinner in Saqlain, I don't need Afridi and Razzaq will be the finisher.


No 6th bowling option, not even a part timer.

:razzler batting too high.
 
Re: Pakistan All-time ODI XI

At their best. .... you'd have the following.


Anwar
Kami
Moyo
Inzi
Miandad
Abbas
Imran
Razzaq
Akram
Younis
Saqlain
 
Saeed Anwar
Yousuf
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad c
Inzamam-Ul-Haq
Abdul Razzaq
Moin Khan (wk)
Waqar Younis
Wasim Akram
Shoaib Akhtar
Saqlain Mushtaq

12th man Imran Khan

If Akthar is not fit then I will have Imran Khan in my team. Imran on his bowling alone cannot make this team and his batting is little overrated, he was basically a plodder who consumed lot of overs and rarely made big scores.

Waqar and Wasim are a must and when I have best odi spinner in Saqlain, I don't need Afridi and Razzaq will be the finisher.

Not including imran khan??? Im not sure if you are serious.

So you wouldn't include the finest cricketer pakistan has produced, our only odi world cup winning captain Somone who avge 33 with the bat and 26 with the ball in odis!!!

Makes sense
 
ALOO's All-time Pakistan ODI XI:

Saeed Anwar
Aamir Sohail
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Imran Khan (c)
Moin Khan (w)
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Saqlain Mushtaq
Abdul Qadir


Good opening partnership, strong middle-order and also decent hitters down the order. This ODI bowling attack would be as good as any IMO. Three great fast bowlers, a great leg-spinner and also the genius off-spinner Saqi. Sohail would provide the 6th bowling option with his left arm spin.

Very good team ...........

Bowling is fantastic ..... this is the same as I had chosen , Qadir is a must.

Only debatable is sohail.
 
Saeed Anwar
Mudassir Nazar (bcoz of 6th bowling option)
Zaheer Abbas/M Yousuf
Javed Miandad
Inzamam Ul Haq
Imran Khan
Rashid Latif
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younus
Saqlain/Ajmal
Abdul Qadir
 
No 6th bowling option, not even a part timer.

:razzler batting too high.

I don't like bits and pieces players, I would not have Raazaq in my team at all but there are not other options in Pakistan's history.

When I have strong bowling attack I dont need 6th bowling option.
 
Yes for an all time pakistan rubbish eleven

Afridi wouldnt make a pakistan all time 2nd eleven Never mind first eleven!

3rd highest wicket taker, 7000+ runs!
Most man of the match for a pakistani ever

Be as jealous as you want, but Afridi is an automatic selection!

I remember he was even in a all time ODI XI on cricinfo at 7! And that too was a deserving selection :afridi
 
Saeed Anwar
Mudassir Nazar (bcoz of 6th bowling option)
Zaheer Abbas/M Yousuf
Javed Miandad
Inzamam Ul Haq
Imran Khan
Rashid Latif
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younus
Saqlain/Ajmal
Abdul Qadir

Mudassir Nazar in ODI ? Are you serious?
 
I don't like bits and pieces players, I would not have Raazaq in my team at all but there are not other options in Pakistan's history.

When I have strong bowling attack I dont need 6th bowling option.

Every Team has a 6th bowling option. That is a beauty of making a dream XI , it should be well balanced.
 
Mudassir Nazar in ODI ? Are you serious?

Yes wanted to have a sixth bowling option. I could have also added Aamer Sohail but already have two specialist spinners. Rest of the batsmen play can play at a faster rate
 
3rd highest wicket taker, 7000+ runs!
Most man of the match for a pakistani ever

Be as jealous as you want, but Afridi is an automatic selection!

I remember he was even in a all time ODI XI on cricinfo at 7! And that too was a deserving selection :afridi

The hack hardly has a wkt per game avges 40 against non minnows with the ball and gets 22runs with the bat No way does he make an all time pakistan never mind an all time world eleven :)))
 
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:afridi should not be in the team ....... he is poor with bat , and non reliable with ball. I think Asif mujtaba would be a better choice.
 
Who would you have in your all time Pakistani Odi eleven

Wasim , Waqar and Akthar will pace bowlers along with Saqlain.

Imran Khan or Afridi as an all rounder in your all time playing eleven for pakistani Team.They both are competing for one slot that of all rounder who would you have in your playing eleven.
 
^^.... LOL True... I don't know.. Suddenly from where did this Afridi's name came up.. with IK..:O.....???? :13:.... Seems everyone tends to forget everything happened before Yesterdays.. match....:))
 
well Folks it is not a far fetched Idea IK odi stats were a so so and Afridi with his bowling and batting adds lot of value to the team.
 
well Folks it is not a far fetched Idea IK odi stats were a so so and Afridi with his bowling and batting adds lot of value to the team.

He averaged 33 with the bat and 26 with the ball

Afridi averages 23 with the bat, 34 with the ball

Nope, no comparision. 10 run diff in average, plus Imran was a legendary captain
 
1. Saeed Anwar
2. Shahid Afridi
3. Javed Miandad
4. Mohammad Yousuf
5. Inzamam
6. Moin Khan (WK)
7. Imran Khan (c)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shoaib Akhtar
10. Saqlain Mushtaq
11. Waqar Younis

Afridi in due to the recent hype lol he'll be out of the team in a few weeks time when his bashers come back. Hard pressed not to put in Razzaq!
 
^^.... LOL True... I don't know.. Suddenly from where did this Afridi's name came up.. with IK..:O.....???? :13:.... Seems everyone tends to forget everything happened before Yesterdays.. match....:))

Pakistan fans always live 'in the moment' so it's not really a surprise.
 
He averaged 33 with the bat and 26 with the ball

Afridi averages 23 with the bat, 34 with the ball

Nope, no comparision. 10 run diff in average, plus Imran was a legendary captain

Afridi avgs 23 with bat but his strike rate is phenomenal compared to IK's . That as lower order batsmen is more important than Avg.

AVG in odi is nothing especially for no 6/7. IK always needs another batsmen to prop up the innings where Afridi if he clicks he alone can take away the game from any opposing team.
 
Saeed Anwar
Shahid Afridi
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad
Inzamam ul Haq
Imran Khan(c)
Moin Khan (Wk)
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Shoaib Akhtar
Saqlain Mushtaq

Afridi in for entertainment value, batting is incredibly strong . Can afford to attack with afridi up front, also handy leg spin option in bowling.

Bowling will be murderous. :imran :wasim :waqar :akhtar :saqi
 
1. Saeed Anwar
2. Zaheer Abbas
3. Javed Miandad
4. Mohammad Yousuf
5. Inzamam
6. Moin Khan (WK)
7. Imran Khan (c)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shoaib Akhtar
10. Saqlain Mushtaq
11. Waqar Younis
 
I would have Mudassar in to open with Anwar - he was a good ODI bowler and woukld provide IK with another option.
 
Imran played ODI in different era against far better batsmen , cannot compare with :afridi

In that time :afridi would have been a number 10 batsman.
 
Imran played ODI in different era against far better batsmen , cannot compare with :afridi

In that time :afridi would have been a number 10 batsman.

that is utter nonsense, when Imran played bowling was lot easier batsmen never took any risks in first 40 overs.

These days batsmen have so many shots and are so inventive , even yorkers are hit now a days.
 
that is utter nonsense, when Imran played bowling was lot easier batsmen never took any risks in first 40 overs.

These days batsmen have so many shots and are so inventive , even yorkers are hit now a days.

You think :afridi is good enough to bat in that era , with less field restrictions and better bowlers ?
 
My team


Majid Khan
Saeed Anwar
Inzamam
Zaheer Abbas
Saleem Malik
J.Miandad
I.Khan
R.Latif
W.Akram
S.Mustaq
W.Younis.


2 Good openers who play fast bowling well, followed by 4 good middle order batters , all good spin players , then Imran / Latif and Akram for big hits.

4 specialist bowlers , with Majid and malik to fill in for 5th bowler.
 
My Pakistan ODI XI:

Saeed Anwar
Moin Khan (wk)
Mohammad Yousuf
Misbah Ul Haq
Inzamam Ul Haq
Javed Miandad
Imran Khan (c)
Wasim Akram
Saqlain Mushtaq
Waqar Younis
Shoaib Akhtar
 
Saeed Anwar
Yousuf
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad c
Inzamam-Ul-Haq
Abdul Razzaq
Moin Khan (wk)
Waqar Younis
Wasim Akram
Shoaib Akhtar
Saqlain Mushtaq

12th man Imran Khan

If Akthar is not fit then I will have Imran Khan in my team. Imran on his bowling alone cannot make this team and his batting is little overrated, he was basically a plodder who consumed lot of overs and rarely made big scores.

Waqar and Wasim are a must and when I have best odi spinner in Saqlain, I don't need Afridi and Razzaq will be the finisher.



You Would Have Abdul Razzaq Over Imran Khan!! HA! You are ludacris! Imran was much more than a plodder my friend. Also his bowling was brill. You probably never saw him play
 
Saeed Anwar
Shahid Afridi
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Imran Khan (c)
Abdul Razzaq
Moin Khan (wk)
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Saqlain Mushtaq

-Here you have batting all the way to no.9 and all bases are covered. Innings likely to get off to a rapid start, then come the middle order accumulators and finally the excellent finishers.
-3 front-line pace bowling options. In Saqlain you have the greatest ODI spinner of all time. Afridi/Razzaq are very credible 5th/6th bowling options depending on the conditions. All 6 bowlers are genuine strike bowlers.
 
Best Pak ODI XI

Saeed Anwar
Majid Khan
Javed Miandad
Inzamam
Zaheer Abbas
Imran Khan (c)
Rashid Latif
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Shoaib Akhtar
Saeed Ajmal/Saqlain Mushtaq

M yousaf 12th man
 
Anwar
Afridi
Imran (capt)
MoYo
Inzamam
Misbah
Razzaq
Moin (wk)
Wasim
Saqlain
Waqar
 
I 'll pick 12 men team - depending on wicket there 'll be a floating place. & I am picking players considering their peak 3 years (not entire career)

1. Saeed
2. Shohail
3. Zaheer
4. Javed (VCp.)
5. Inzamam
6. Imran (Cp.)
7. Razzak/Afridi (floating position depending on wicket/opposition)
8. Moin
9. Wasim
10. Saqlain
11. Waquar

If it's a 15 member squad, my rest 3 players 'll be Shohaib, MoYo & A Quadir - absolutely outstanding squad. I believe, if we make a similar all time XV, probably only West Indies 'll have a better squad. & this squad 'll probably be the overall best if we theoretically consider different conditions - Subcontinent, Australia, England, South Africa & West Indies. For every condition they have a top bowling attack - Fast bowler, fast-medium swing bowler, the greatest Lefty fast bowler (& probably ODI bowler as well), a top quality leggi, probably the best ever ODI offie, a very handy & cunning left-arm spinner, the best 3 bowlers for the last 10 overs, a great Captain & the best ever Fast bowling Test all-rounder, 2 of the best ever match winners coming at 4 & 5 (& a dynamic No. 3, at his time only second to the greatest ever), one of the best ever ODI opener, a top class floating No. 7, who can win matches either with bat or ball, a tail having someone with 2 Test 100 batting at 10 (& quite aggressive tail). Only weakness that I see is Shohail isn't an ATG, while Moin is just not that good with gloves (Not to mention fielding but then, considering PAK standards, this is quite a good fielding side). Had KAkmal maintained his best standard for few more years, I probably would have opened with him, dropping Shohail & include MoYo, dropping Inzi 1 slot down to 6.

I think, for few more years, this side 'll be untouched - may be Shohail might face challenge from Shehzad in few years time.

Not surprised to see the current status of PAK ODI team - not a single player 'll make into the Second XI even.


I 'll still stick to this squad, but may be now Moin 'll face challenge from UAkmal & Sarfraz. Moin's advantage was his batting contribution from 7/8, disadvantage is his WK (for which, he 'll be challenged even by UAkmal). KAkmal isn't making it because of batting slot - he 'll not open for this side & at 8, Moin was a better bat (KAkmal, overall a better WK though).
 
1. Anwar
2. Sohail
3.MO Yo
4. Miandad
5.inzi
6. Latif
7. Razzaq
8. Wasim
9. Imran
10. Waqar
11. Saqlain
 
Anwar
Abbas
Miandad
Yousuf
Inzi
Razzaq (in his prime)
Moin
Imran
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain.
 
Saeed Anwar
Mohammad Yousuf
Zaheer Abbas
Javed Miandad *
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Umar Akmal +
Abdur Razzaq
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Shoaib Akhtar
Saqlain Mushtaq

Not making MoYo open in ODIs was a big trick that we missed. He could have been Amla-esque.

Imran doesn't make my all time ODI XI. Can't fit him in because Razzaq in his pomp was Pakistan's best ODI all-rounder ever.

Captaincy is a toss up between Miandad and Wasim, but I'd go with Miandad.

Umar Akmal as wicket-keeper is a controversial choice, but if he hadn't given up the gloves, he'd have ended up as our best ODI wicket-keeper batsman ever. Perhaps Sarfraz will get there one day.
 
^^

Very good choice - but, I just couldn't put MoYo as opener as he never opened - I also think, he would have averaged around 45 @ higher SR with LOTs of century. In fact, apart from PAK, any other team, MoYo & Inzi would have batted at 1, 2 & 3.

Regarding WK - Umar stopped keeping, otherwise, he indeed would have kept in all-time XI - in fact, he was a better WK than Moin. Now I guess it's too late.

Imran doesn't come only as all-rounder, he was the Captain too. I think, at his prime, A Razzak was as good an ODI all-rounder & should play in the team, but you have to consider that, on his own right Imran was a better bowling package than may be even Shohaib. At his prime, IK played too little ODI, but he averaged 18 with an economy of 3 in 1980-1983, even playing mostly in WSC.

I 'll play both & make IK Captain (otherwise Javed 'll create trouble :). In Asian condition, A Quadir replaces Razzak as Imran was much better spin player & was by far the better bowler on drier wickets. But, yes - my 15 men squad covers all the players you picked - closer to anyone I have seen. Actually, Imran was so good that, ignoring him is impossible - I saw him after he was 35, after 3 years of stress fracture lay off - still he was the best player of '87 WC. You can't take him out, don't judge him with '92 only - judge him for '87 & '89 (Neheru Cup).

Why does so many posters ignoring ZED? He was easily the 2nd best ODI batsman of his time, probably one of all-time for 2nd best (That's the maximum one can reach, unless your name is Viv Richards).
 
From what I've seen, heard and read about Imran, he wasn't really an impact batsman in ODIs. This is why I rate Kapil a much superior ODI all-rounder.

Indeed Imran's bowling was great, but with Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar and Saqlain in the team, you can get away with not having him. Besides, Razzaq in his prime was a terrific bowler as well. Bowled at 88-90 mph and was a great exponent of reverse swing plus he has was a devastating hitter.

For these reasons and looking at the overall balance of the squad, I'd pick Razzaq over Imran and yes, obviously he will make my 15 man squad along with Qadir, Moin and Saleem Malik.
 
^^

For a weak(er) bowling unit, I'd opt for Imran as the all-rounder but for a fantastic attack, Razzaq/Kapil would be better picks.
 
From what I've seen, heard and read about Imran, he wasn't really an impact batsman in ODIs. This is why I rate Kapil a much superior ODI all-rounder.

Indeed Imran's bowling was great, but with Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar and Saqlain in the team, you can get away with not having him. Besides, Razzaq in his prime was a terrific bowler as well. Bowled at 88-90 mph and was a great exponent of reverse swing plus he has was a devastating hitter.

For these reasons and looking at the overall balance of the squad, I'd pick Razzaq over Imran and yes, obviously he will make my 15 man squad along with Qadir, Moin and Saleem Malik.


Kapil was a champion ODI all-rounder - probably the best ever in ODI, but on his own right Imran was unique, He transformed his game to fit the team. He had all sorts of shot, but whenever his team required something else - there comes his greatness.

For example - in '92, Inzi failed at 3, & nobody (Including Javed & Malik) was willing to bat at 3 - Imran played there & played perfectly. In Neheru Cup, Javed was struggling & PAK was short in middle order batting - IK batted at 4/5 & he did batted like a champion No. 5. In '87, he was the prime bowler in ENG/WC/WI - batted at 7 & made some real blasters. Before that, in IND '87, PAK inexperienced lineup was struggling against Indian spin - IK batted at 5, in a 6-1 (should have been 7-0, barring Quadir's stupidity) rout. In '83, Imran was playing as batsman only - batted at 5 & made a 100. In his early days, in Packer Series, Imran was used as a pinch hitting all-rounder - he blasted some of the most hostile fast bowlers. Actually, IK was a complete package as a batting option - you can fit him anywhere from 3 to 7. ODI is an all-rounders game - from 6 to 9 UAkmal, IK, Razzak & Wasim makes a nightmare to bowl at.

Razzak's advantage was, at his peak days PAK played so many matches.
 
Kapil was a champion ODI all-rounder - probably the best ever in ODI, but on his own right Imran was unique, He transformed his game to fit the team. He had all sorts of shot, but whenever his team required something else - there comes his greatness.

For example - in '92, Inzi failed at 3, & nobody (Including Javed & Malik) was willing to bat at 3 - Imran played there & played perfectly. In Neheru Cup, Javed was struggling & PAK was short in middle order batting - IK batted at 4/5 & he did batted like a champion No. 5. In '87, he was the prime bowler in ENG/WC/WI - batted at 7 & made some real blasters. Before that, in IND '87, PAK inexperienced lineup was struggling against Indian spin - IK batted at 5, in a 6-1 (should have been 7-0, barring Quadir's stupidity) rout. In '83, Imran was playing as batsman only - batted at 5 & made a 100. In his early days, in Packer Series, Imran was used as a pinch hitting all-rounder - he blasted some of the most hostile fast bowlers. Actually, IK was a complete package as a batting option - you can fit him anywhere from 3 to 7. ODI is an all-rounders game - from 6 to 9 UAkmal, IK, Razzak & Wasim makes a nightmare to bowl at.

Razzak's advantage was, at his peak days PAK played so many matches.

True that Imran was a more versatile and complete batsman no doubt, but for a number 7 in ODIs with a strong top order which means not many collapses and floating up and down the order, I don't think he's a better option than Razzaq. In any case, I'd have Razzaq or Kapil at the crease in the last 15-20 overs rather than Imran.

This how I see it:

Strong batting lineup, decent bowling attack - Razzaq

Strong batting lineup, weak bowling attack - Imran

Decent batting lineup, strong bowling attack - Razzaq

Decent batting lineup, weak bowling attack - Imran

With a batting unit of Saeed, MoYo, Zaheer, Miandad, Inzamam and Umar as the wicket-keeper and bowlers like Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib and Saqlain, I don't see how Imran can be a more devastating all-rounder than Razzaq.

In ODIs, I value all-rounders by their impact - this is the major reason why I rate Hafeez as an ODI all-rounder very highly and think he's fantastic because he is definitely has a lot of impact because when he plays well, Pakistan win and when he doesn't, we don't (most of the time). This is obvious by the number of man of the match/man of the series awards he has won since 2010.

Afridi too isn't as bad as people think, but he's too hit and miss for my liking.
 
Imran makes this team because there wasn't much to separate his bowling from that of Akhtar's and he was a much better batsman. Having someone like Akmal keep is suicidal when you have good keepers like Moin and Latif. I know that these two were poor with the bat but that is another reason that Imran is there.
 
1.Saeed Anwar
2.Shahid Afridi
3.Javed Miandad
4.Mohammad Yousuf
5.Inzamam ul-Haq
6.Imran Khan*
7.Moin Khan+
8.Wasim Akram
9.Waqar Younis
10.Shoaib Akhtar
11.Saqlain Mushtaq


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You have to remember that not only did Imran bring his impeccable bowling skills and batting solidity to the table, but he was also a Leader. A man among boys who instilled the will to succeed into his players. I can count the number of Captains i'd rate on a similar level to Imran on one hand. Even without his batting; his bowling and captaincy skills are enough to warrant a place in my side.
 
You have to remember that not only did Imran bring his impeccable bowling skills and batting solidity to the table, but he was also a Leader. A man among boys who instilled the will to succeed into his players. I can count the number of Captains i'd rate on a similar level to Imran on one hand. Even without his batting; his bowling and captaincy skills are enough to warrant a place in my side.

Top post. A Pakistani all-time side without Imran just seems incomplete, no matter the format.
 
My Pakistan ODI XI:

Saeed Anwar
Moin Khan (wk)
Mohammad Yousuf
Misbah Ul Haq
Inzamam Ul Haq
Javed Miandad
Imran Khan (c)
Wasim Akram
Saqlain Mushtaq
Waqar Younis
Shoaib Akhtar

Moin ? He is poor Keeper , on top of that , when has he opened ? Also where is the sixth bowling option?
 
1.Saeed Anwar
2.Shahid Afridi
3.Javed Miandad
4.Mohammad Yousuf
5.Inzamam ul-Haq
6.Imran Khan*
7.Moin Khan+
8.Wasim Akram
9.Waqar Younis
10.Shoaib Akhtar
11.Saqlain Mushtaq


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That is a good team , just replace Afridi with Amir sohail
 
Pakistan All Time XI

Ok, I'm bringing this thread back alive in light of the upcoming ODIs.

My XI would be:

1. S. Anwar - 8824 runs, avg 39, 20 100s, 43 50s, SR 80 (when it actually mattered)
2. S. Afridi - in as an all rounder, completely forgotten about as a pretty good if inconsistent opener
3. Z. Abbas - 2572 runs, avg 47 (in those days, larger boundaries, just exceptional), SR 84, 7 100s, 13 50s
4. J. Miandad - nothing to say really, picks himself
5. M. Yousuf - the most underrated top class cricketer of his gen, 9000+ runs, averaged 40+ with 15 100s, easily one of Pak's highest ever achievers
6. I. Ul-Haq - 11739 runs, avg 39, SR 74, 10 100s, 83 50s
7. I. Khan C - nothing needs to be said
8. M. Khan WK - Pakistan's best keeper and a great low order striker
9. W. Akram - 500 wickets, avg 23...just wow
10. S. Ajmal - Pak's best ever ODI spinner, 184 wickets, 22 avg
11. W. Younis - ODI cricket's most lethal fast bowler
 
When it comes to picking Pakistan All time 11 for ODI there are just 2 weak spot ,
1. Second opener to partner Saeed Anwar
2. WK

So the best compromise is to for someone like Kamran Akmal and pray he doesn't drop much.

1. Anwar
2. K.Akmal
3. Zaheer Abbas
4. Javed Miandad
5. Inzamam-Ul-Haq
6. M.Yousuf
7. Imran Khan
8. Wasim Akram
9. Saqlain Mshtaq
10. Waqar Younis
11. Saeed Ajmal
 
When it comes to picking Pakistan All time 11 for ODI there are just 2 weak spot ,
1. Second opener to partner Saeed Anwar
2. WK

So the best compromise is to for someone like Kamran Akmal and pray he doesn't drop much.

1. Anwar
2. K.Akmal
3. Zaheer Abbas
4. Javed Miandad
5. Inzamam-Ul-Haq
6. M.Yousuf
7. Imran Khan
8. Wasim Akram
9. Saqlain Mshtaq
10. Waqar Younis
11. Saeed Ajmal

april fool's day has passed
 
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