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If both Fahim & Wahab play, we are doomed.
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This is unjust to play Wahab over Junaid, I pray Pakistan doesn't pay the price for such mistake, I honestly foresee Wahab to end up with figures of 10-0-86-1.
Junaid is a better wicket taking option. He should have been considered. His 2 or 3 wickets (including the early wicket of Kohli) at the cost of 55-65 runs could have done the job.
Junaid is a better wicket taking option. He should have been considered. His 2 or 3 wickets (including the early wicket of Kohli) at the cost of 55-65 runs could have done the job.
thats cuz i guess if there is ever an oppurtunity for brainless wahab to fire,its now.These sort of emotinoally charged situations are when he is at his best.
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Yes, but Kohli was all at sea against Irfan as well. If not Junaid, Irfan would have dismissed and he actually did in the second ODI.
Thrice in 3 games...
anyhow bunny is a relative term that is basically used for banter, and I refuse to take it seriously, you can't describe it using a few examples for players you don't feel an attachment towards... I still feel 3 in 3 games is a pretty big achievement specially if its someone like Kohli
You can't be seriously trying to correct someone who thinks otherwise
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Yes thrice. For some reason, I have memory of Irfan dismissing him in the second ODI, maybe because he struggling against everyone in that series and not just Junaid.
People can consider Kohli Junaid's bunny, kitten or puppy, I don't mind, but my only issue is with the naive assessment that Junaid will continue to have wood over him, even though their careers have gone in the completely opposite direction. Kohli is one of the best batsman in the world now, while Junaid defines mediocrity.
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i hope the same...atleast junaid in place of wahab....i want to use both of them...
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Of course he is not. How many times have they played each other? It is difficult for Afridi to make any good bowler his bunny because of the way he plays. Smart bowlers have always worked him out eventually. Over the course of a series or two, Ashwin will get the better of Afridi.
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Who is going to take the new ball with Aamir? Just on that basis, Junaid should have been selected ahead of Wahab.
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Hasan Ali and Amir will take new ball.
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They should have named the squad at the toss.Keep India guessing.I would play Shadab over Fahim.
I would have chosen Junaid over Wahab,simply because Junaid is the lesser of the two evils.
I would have chosen Junaid over Wahab,simply because Junaid is the lesser of the two evils.
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WAHAB is much better then junaid... WAHAB can bowl 140/150 kmph!! while junaid bowls at 120-130 kmph and will go for a hundred runs... don't forget WAHAB can bat too and make fast half centuries!!! While junaid would most likely gonna get a duck.. this is England... the ICC made flat pitches to suit the indians that offer no swing... WAHAB is much better on flat English pitches And overcast conditions... he will be the real MOTM I PREDICT!!! YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!! WA-HAB!!!! WA-HAB!! WAHAB!!
At least, Wahab can try to beat batsmen in air speed - at present, JK is inferior version of left handed Jed Drenbach. Also, the new ball isn't swinging much.
Wahab at least will add few runs with bat & in fielding - JK would never score enough to match his fielding laps. Ideally none should have been in squad, but not much choice here.
has to be Imad or Hafeez; Hasan is good as 1st change
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It's between one bad choice and another. We could always get lucky but Wahab or Junaid
won't make a difference with India 9 times out of 10. That said, this roster really reeks of
cowardice. These batsmen are constitutionally incapable of 'going on the attack'
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They're all awful. Junaid last took 3 wickets in 2013. He's a shadow of his former self.
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I see people fretting too much on wahab when actually there is no difference between wahab and Junaid.
Worst thing with this 11 is the opening combo and hafeez coming at 4. Even on their best days these guys can't score more than 4 in over
Worst thing with this 11 is the opening combo and hafeez coming at 4. Even on their best days these guys can't score more than 4 in over
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Since I prefer Hassan to bowl in middle overs so I would give new ball to faheem alongside amir. If he goes around the park in first couple we can turn to Hassan
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Correction, Junaid got 4 Wickets in that warm up match. Mickey is saying that he wants a wicket taking bowling attack? but why drop Junaid ??
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Let's get behind Wahab. WA-HAB!!!! WA-HAB!! WAHAB!!
Same goes for Amir, he is just shadow of a bowler he once was, Should we drop him on basis of this logic? In 2013 period, even Shoaib Malik was going through a rough phase. Should we bench him on this logic? We are in 2017 where Junaid narrowly outperformed Wahab in Australia and West Indies.
Wahab is an overrated bowler who was never a match winner and will never be. Junaid on the other hand hasn't put the world on fire either but on merit alone he deserves to be ahead of Wahab Riaz.
I don't want to go far to argue that Junaid is a better match winner than Wahab but I will stop here as stats also prove that Junaid deserves to play on merit not Wahab.
I wish Wahab Riaz was a batsman whose average of 69 in West Indies and 104 in Australia would have made him the first choice on the paper but sadly those are just his bowling figures in 2017.
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I'm not as worried about Riaz as I usually am, as he is a proven performer in tournaments.
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No offense bro, but this is the same sort of clutching at straws that Bhartis pull out with WC wins whenever we read them the overall head to head score between Pak and India.
If someone can be kind enough to post his average and SR in the last 1 year, would actually be a much more relevant indicator to what we are about to experience today.....
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After WC 2015, Wahab averages 69.9 at an economy of 6.9.
If Shadab plays and is taken apart by the Indian batsmen, the psychological effects could haunt him for years and damage his precocious talent. Not sure if it's wise to play someone so inexperienced in such an important game. A few slogged sixes to midwicket and he might crumble in front of the raucous crowd.
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I would prefer Wahab over Junaid on a flat wicket
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I don't deny his historical incompetence outside of tournaments. However, I feel he transforms into a different beast once a big tournament comes around. Of course, there are no guarantees, and he is also pretty old for such a one-dimensional fast bowler. Junaid also looks well past his best, so I don't think we'll really be missing out.
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Whatever floats your boat jaan.
Oh.. sweetheart !! my boat is floating alright. It's the selective 12 wins that you lot need to pull out from almost 4 decades of absolute hammering to keep yourselves from drowning
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Oh.. sweetheart !! my boat is floating alright. It's the selective 12 wins that you lot need to pull out from almost 4 decades of absolute hammering to keep yourselves from drowning
Selective 12 wins which makes Pakistanis shake when remembering them? Come now, who are you trying to fool? No amount of false bravado (and Kitply cup wins) can extinguish the pain of Bangalore 96, Mohali 11 and JoBurg 2007. Even on this site you can see so many posters mention these as their worst cricket matches ever.
But I guess you can keep pretending about your Kitply cups and Cool and Cool cups etc to put up a brave face while getting manhandled at the highest levels.
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Thank God Junaid is sitting this one out, that man is a proven choker. At least Wahab tends to step up during ICC events and has it in him to produce something special. Now, all we need is for Shadab to get the nod ahead of Fahim.
My only real complaint is the opening combination, but I was never expecting it to be any different so I can't say that I'm surprised.
My only real complaint is the opening combination, but I was never expecting it to be any different so I can't say that I'm surprised.
No please.. why expose Fakhar in a tough pressure matvh let every one see selfishzad suffer so we can finally get rid of this non sense player.
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Guess you learn something new every day...
Wahab Riaz averages 13.69 with the bat at a strike rate of 82... while Junaid CANT BAT AT ALL, embarrassingly he averages 4.61 at a strike rate of 52!!! Wanna know something else? Wahab has much better fitness—which is probably he was selected in the XI.. Wahab has a much better bowling action, can bowl really long spells, and stay cool longer... Wahab can field million times better as well..
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Wahab shouldn't be selected. I'm stunned they continue to think he's useful.
Nicely done sir. These guys turn mental midgets of the highest order (and give S Africa competition) at the international stage.
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Wahab is fine. At least you can expect him to give his best and he has shown this more than once in big ICC tournaments.
Azhar is also okay. At least he should be able to negotiate moving ball early on. And doesn't seem all that fidgety and streaky. Though I would have definitely wanted a more capable opener. And no it would have been unfair to throw in Fakhar in such pressure-cooker game.
My only problem is with Ahmad Shahzad. He is a proven failure time and again. Never once has he stood up to the task and doesn't give any assurance or semblance of progress. He is, to me, epitome of the depths to what our cricket has sunk in last few years. I can't even call him mediocre. He's actually third-rate. And the fact this guy tops the charts in domestic cups speaks volumes about what other crap talent we have in the pipelines.
Azhar is also okay. At least he should be able to negotiate moving ball early on. And doesn't seem all that fidgety and streaky. Though I would have definitely wanted a more capable opener. And no it would have been unfair to throw in Fakhar in such pressure-cooker game.
My only problem is with Ahmad Shahzad. He is a proven failure time and again. Never once has he stood up to the task and doesn't give any assurance or semblance of progress. He is, to me, epitome of the depths to what our cricket has sunk in last few years. I can't even call him mediocre. He's actually third-rate. And the fact this guy tops the charts in domestic cups speaks volumes about what other crap talent we have in the pipelines.
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No the entire tournament, Junaid averaged 102. While other seam bowlers did great in that CT, even BK averaged 22.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/icc-c..._bowling_average.html?id=7371;type=tournament
Junaid was the worst bowler in the entire CT 2013 and below such bowlers as Root, Pollard and Williamson
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A lot of hate for Wahab on this thread. Trust me, I don't think anyone hates Wahab as much as I do. From the very beginning I've been saying that he's a poor man's Sami but honestly, he does show up in big games and if I had to pick between him and Junaid. I would go with him.
I have a feeling we will see a special spell from Wahab in this game. Plus, overcast conditions might also help!
I have a feeling we will see a special spell from Wahab in this game. Plus, overcast conditions might also help!
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We need to face reality, both Wahab and Junaid are mediocre.
Mohd Abbas will be in the ODI team next series.
Mohd Abbas will be in the ODI team next series.
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Abbas isn't an ODI player. Wahab and Junaid are mediocre but Abbas is worse.
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Let him make his debut before deciding.
We need to find others, ideally a fast bowling AR.
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Fahim?
Hideous squad. In this day and age of modern cricket where strike rates are more important than batting averages, our top three consist of three snails : Shehzad, Azhar and Hafeez. Pathetic.
This squad would have been perfectly fine if it was the early 1990s.
This squad would have been perfectly fine if it was the early 1990s.
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Going by stats, BK and Yadab are the epitome of mediocrity with such inflated averages.
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I don't know under which scenario is Azhar a better choice that Harris. With Hafeez opening and Harris in at 4, you solve two problems. Your middle order (Babar, Harris, Shoaib) actually looks quite good and with Hafeez forced to open, either he scores (good) or fails (more likely) and then doesn't ruin the rest of the innings. I would take his typical knock upfront rather than in the middle of the innings, and lets be honest, its not like Azhar will do any different.
Well there is nothing to do about it now. Let's just hope he is less of an embarrassment than he was, when he last played against India.
And Shadab has to play. Even if its is at the expanse of Immad. He is a very good leggie, an excellent fielder and can bat as well. While with Immad the best you can hope for is that he doesn't go for too many runs and tries to field decently. The only thing Immad has over Shadab is his batting for know, primarily because we don't know how good the latter is. From what I saw in the WI test and PSL, he certainly has the ability and I won't be surprised if he bats ahead of Immad in the future.
Well there is nothing to do about it now. Let's just hope he is less of an embarrassment than he was, when he last played against India.
And Shadab has to play. Even if its is at the expanse of Immad. He is a very good leggie, an excellent fielder and can bat as well. While with Immad the best you can hope for is that he doesn't go for too many runs and tries to field decently. The only thing Immad has over Shadab is his batting for know, primarily because we don't know how good the latter is. From what I saw in the WI test and PSL, he certainly has the ability and I won't be surprised if he bats ahead of Immad in the future.
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From the scenes on the ground it looks as though Shadab will play.
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Very nice looking figure,pleasant for eyes.
Also remember how 90% of the people didn't rate Junaid and wanted Riaz chosen over him... we all remember how that turned out
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