Pakistan calls for new global cricket body amid ICC row and India match boycott

[Hitman]

Both combined is a 450million cricket market. has a big worth Sir. Without playing Pakistan you dont make icc event revenues as well, Pakistan is a big player in cricket due to its huge population. And your sena buddies dont really add much heck cricket isnt even 2nd or 3rd sport in most of the senas

If only BCB and Bangladeshi fans were worth anything, ICC would not have replaced them with Scotland in this WC. They would have found another way out. That itself gives you an idea whether an ICC tournament is viable without Bangladesh or not. As for Pakistan, they'll find out the reality after the WC is over.​

 

[HalBass9]

How about reforming the existing ICC and freeing it from political interference?

This would require the establishment of strong, legally binding safeguards that ensure operational, financial, and leadership independence from government or partisan control.

Why would India allow that when the BJP effectively uses the BCCI as a political extension for domestic messaging and optics?

The international cricket we grew up watching doesn’t really exist anymore. What remains has already diluted the spirit of the game and if this continues, it will only erode it further.

 

[AZulfi]

Well, the calls for an alternative to ICC will be lead by the head of PCB. Who is a politician and part of Pak. politics.

If reform of ICC is what has to be done, that will also have to be lead by the PCB.

Now, how does this free things from political interference?

Of course, the buck starts at home. PCB also needs to be free from any government or political interference. The PCB chairman and board of governors should be elected by members of regional cricket boards (counties in England). PM or President (as was the case before) should have no role in their appointments. This would be the ideal scenario.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Sure do, still doesn't change the fact that that you just wiggled your way around what I said.

It is workable when all teams handle their finances, meaning their territory broadcas revenue separately and make an equal contribution to ICC.

Let me know when rest of ICC is ready to do that. I’m sure BCCI will be happy.

 

[BouncerGuy]

This stuff from PCB is not practical... You cannot go with minnows to make a new governing body... Until Aus, Sa, Eng are not on your side, this whole thing is impractical and a waste of time.

 

[light]

It is workable when all teams handle their finances, meaning their territory broadcas revenue separately and make an equal contribution to ICC.

Let me know when rest of ICC is ready to do that. I’m sure BCCI will be happy.

I myself believe BCCI deserves more than 35 ish % they get considering we bring in almost 80 ish % revenue. But that doesn't mean you go around being a Dbag. If BCCI isn't happy, pull out, make their own league. No one is stopping BCCI. I am sure many will leave ICC and join the new league with us if BCCI ever steps toward that road.

 

[globetrotter]

PCB and BCB cannot fight against ICC as they have clearly defeated in ICC voting by 12-2... both PCB and BCB needs to improve the performance of their respective teams instead of bringing regional politix in the game of cricket.

Also other teams like USA, Ireland, Scotland, Nepal, Nambia, Netherlands improved their quality and performance of their teams drastically in recent time.This is danger signs for the teams like Pakistan and Bangladesh, if they didn't improve then we might see both countries playing world cup qualifying rounds only.

 

[rpant_gabba]

I myself believe BCCI deserves more than 35 ish % they get considering we bring in almost 80 ish % revenue. But that doesn't mean you go around being a Dbag. If BCCI isn't happy, pull out, make their own league. No one is stopping BCCI. I am sure many will leave ICC and join the new league with us if BCCI ever steps toward that road.

Forget about his whole deserve nonsense. Why should others get to decide what India deserves?

Everyone contributes the same amount, so that way you can keep the riffraff out. ICC handles the rules and regulations. The host handles the schedfuling with ICC approval. Thats it.

 

[light]

Forget about his whole deserve nonsense. Why should others get to decide what India deserves?

Everyone contributes the same amount, so that way you can keep the riffraff out. ICC handles the rules and regulations. The host handles the schedfuling with ICC approval. Thats it.

I think you didn't understand what I wrote. I actually agree with wtv you wrote on my previous post lol. But yes, if everyone contributes the same, none of this rafts happens. But reality is, that doesn't happen.

Anyways forget about all these nonsense, enjoy the world cup. All these can be discussed once the WC is done and dusted with.

 

[Hikaru]

PCB is doing good to sow seeds of dissent among different boards right now. Take one murga at a time and in 10 years they will have the whole poultry farm. As much as I find it suicidal, these are desperate but incredibly brave tactics by the PCB. Naqvi ji truly is the most jabaj PCB leader for me, a true warrior.

 

[Kianig89]

So PCB officials meeting ICC rep, keeping aside the call of Def. Minister

 

[cricketjoshila]

Both combined is a 450million cricket market. has a big worth Sir. Without playing Pakistan you dont make icc event revenues as well, Pakistan is a big player in cricket due to its huge population. And your sena buddies dont really add much heck cricket isnt even 2nd or 3rd sport in most of the senas

What is the revenue generation? Population isnt equal to revenue or market


Sena market is much bigger because currency is stronger

 

[cricketjoshila]

PCB is doing good to sow seeds of dissent among different boards right now. Take one murga at a time and in 10 years they will have the whole poultry farm. As much as I find it suicidal, these are desperate but incredibly brave tactics by the PCB. Naqvi ji truly is the most jabaj PCB leader for me, a true warrior.

Noy every one is a murga like bcb bulbul

 

[HalBass9]

The rest of the world watches sports wanting fairness, equal treatment for all teams, genuine competition, and the preservation of the sport’s integrity. That’s what makes sports meaningful.

But when one side tries to dictate terms based solely on how much money they generate, and expects special treatment because of it, it stops being about sport. It becomes something else entirely, more about optics and domestic narratives than fair competition.

Cricket, unfortunately, has started to feel less like a sport and more like a staged spectacle. The integrity that once made it great seems compromised, and it has taken away much of the interest. At this point, the Ashes feels like one of the few contests left that still represents pure, competitive cricket.

 

[Mas-LFC]

What is the revenue generation? Population isnt equal to revenue or market


Sena market is much bigger because currency is stronger

Sena market isnt much bigger, thats a myth. Cricket isnt as popular like other sports in sena, whats the viewers in sena nations? maybe less than 20mill. Bigger Currency means jack. Bigger population with good economy will generate more revenue for sure. Both Pak and Bd economy size is decent enough with its large population.

 

[sachin-10dulkar]

SENA countries will never join any organization that opposes the BCCI. Pakistan is the second largest cricket market, but India is first by a massive margin. The IPL is the greatest T20 league ever, and it's money that makes it so. No one has ever beaten money in any field. India will continue to dictate world cricket for the next decades (though I wish the best for every cricketing nation).
BCCI's political interference will come and go because it depends on India’s ruling party, which could change at any time.

 

[JaDed]

The rest of the world watches sports wanting fairness, equal treatment for all teams, genuine competition, and the preservation of the sport’s integrity. That’s what makes sports meaningful.

But when one side tries to dictate terms based solely on how much money they generate, and expects special treatment because of it, it stops being about sport. It becomes something else entirely, more about optics and domestic narratives than fair competition.

Cricket, unfortunately, has started to feel less like a sport and more like a staged spectacle. The integrity that once made it great seems compromised, and it has taken away much of the interest. At this point, the Ashes feels like one of the few contests left that still represents pure, competitive cricket.

Fifa Olympics are same too.. Russian stuff done there is equally or even more political.

The only INTL sport that seems somewhat genuine now is Rugby but heavily dependent upon few nations.

 

[JaDed]

Sena market isnt much bigger, thats a myth. Cricket isnt as popular like other sports in sena, whats the viewers in sena nations? maybe less than 20mill. Bigger Currency means jack. Bigger population with good economy will generate more revenue for sure. Both Pak and Bd economy size is decent enough with its large population.

CA and ECB make more than PCB and BCB.. not sure what you on about

 

[BouncerGuy]

STAY ON TOPIC NOW

 

[RexRex]

The integrity that once made it great seems compromised, and it has taken away much of the interest.

Integrity ? The 1980s and 90s were full of biased local umpires, ball tampering, doping, match-fixing, no DRS .. do you really want to go back to those days ? You're losing interest due to two reasons - your team has been unsuccessful in recent years unlike in the 1990s .. and also due to the evolution of franchise leagues. Players becoming t20 mercenaries kinda ruins the magic of tribal national loyalty for us fans.

 

[Kianig89]

Namibia cricket team captain Gerhard Erasmus has expressed concern over the lack of floodlight practice ahead of their scheduled night match against India.

Namibia captain raises concern over lack of floodlight practice before India clash

Namibia captain Gerhard Erasmus says his team was denied floodlight practice before a night match against India, while other teams trained under lights. He vows to fight despite challenges

dunyanews.tv

ICC double standards strikes again , even minnows are not spared

 

[cricketjoshila]

Integrity ? The 1980s and 90s were full of biased local umpires, ball tampering, doping, match-fixing, no DRS .. do you really want to go back to those days ? You're losing interest due to two reasons - your team has been unsuccessful in recent years unlike in the 1990s .. and also due to the evolution of franchise leagues. Players becoming t20 mercenaries kinda ruins the magic of tribal national loyalty for us fans.

He wants those things hack

 

[hassan918]

Namibia cricket team captain Gerhard Erasmus has expressed concern over the lack of floodlight practice ahead of their scheduled night match against India.

Namibia captain raises concern over lack of floodlight practice before India clash

Namibia captain Gerhard Erasmus says his team was denied floodlight practice before a night match against India, while other teams trained under lights. He vows to fight despite challenges

dunyanews.tv

ICC double standards strikes again , even minnows are not spared

Here are some of the points he made.

“Yeah, we haven’t been given a night training session before this game, I don’t know why,” Erasmus said. “I think India has had two night training sessions, and I saw Canada training under lights just now. Make of that what you will, but we’ll just rock up and do our Namibian way, which is to fight.”

“We haven’t got any lights in Namibia for day-night games. Infrastructure-wise, it’s a challenge for us, so it’s not a casual thing for players without experience,” he explained.

“Except for those who have played in the Nepal Premier League, ILT20, or previous World Cups, you don’t really get accustomed to lights and training under them very often,” he added.

 

[Kianig89]

Here are some of the points he made.

“Yeah, we haven’t been given a night training session before this game, I don’t know why,” Erasmus said. “I think India has had two night training sessions, and I saw Canada training under lights just now. Make of that what you will, but we’ll just rock up and do our Namibian way, which is to fight.”

“We haven’t got any lights in Namibia for day-night games. Infrastructure-wise, it’s a challenge for us, so it’s not a casual thing for players without experience,” he explained.

“Except for those who have played in the Nepal Premier League, ILT20, or previous World Cups, you don’t really get accustomed to lights and training under them very often,” he added.

A moment of shame for ICC and the organisers, wonder any Indian poster will condemn it ??

 

[HalBass9]

Integrity ? The 1980s and 90s were full of biased local umpires, ball tampering, doping, match-fixing, no DRS .. do you really want to go back to those days ? You're losing interest due to two reasons - your team has been unsuccessful in recent years unlike in the 1990s .. and also due to the evolution of franchise leagues. Players becoming t20 mercenaries kinda ruins the magic of tribal national loyalty for us fans.

I highly doubt you’re actually that detached from reality, and I’m hoping you’re making those arguments just for the sake of debating rather than genuinely believing them yourself. Why would I oppose tools that have objectively made the game fairer? How did you even arrive at that conclusion based on what I said? Did you forget the entire context of this thread?

I was clearly talking about international cricket, not league cricket. I’ve never been interested in league formats in the first place.

Hopefully my criticism of the BJP/RSS hasn’t affected you so deeply that you now feel compelled to counter every point I make with such baseless and illogical replies.

 

[RexRex]

I highly doubt you’re actually that detached from reality, and I’m hoping you’re making those arguments just for the sake of debating rather than genuinely believing them yourself. Why would I oppose tools that have objectively made the game fairer? How did you even arrive at that conclusion based on what I said? Did you forget the entire context of this thread?

Maybe you should outline why cricket was full of integrity back then compared to today. In the context of this thread .. i.e as far as the issues of the last two weeks are concerned, all the tamasha arose from the idiocy of the the people leading the PCB and BCB. I don't fault the BCCI for that.

 

[HalBass9]

Maybe you should outline why cricket was full of integrity back then compared to today. In the context of this thread .. i.e as far as the issues of the last two weeks are concerned, all the tamasha arose from the idiocy of the the people leading the PCB and BCB. I don't fault the BCCI for that.

PCB and BCB are simply following the lead of the richest board in the world, using sport as a tool for politics. It almost gives the impression that BCB might be benefiting financially from it as well.

 

[rpant_gabba]

PCB and BCB are simply following the lead of the richest board in the world, using sport as a tool for politics. It almost gives the impression that BCB might be benefiting financially from it as well.

nice dodge on the integrity question. its your MO isn't it.

 

[HalBass9]

nice dodge on the integrity question. its your MO isn't it.

It was self explanatory.

Accommodating one team over another because of the revenue it generates goes directly against the integrity of the game. Integrity is built on fairness and equal treatment, not financial influence. The moment decisions start favoring one side for monetary reasons, the credibility of the competition itself is compromised.

 

[rpant_gabba]

It was self explanatory.

Accommodating one team over another because of the revenue it generates goes directly against the integrity of the game. Integrity is built on fairness and equal treatment, not financial influence. The moment decisions start favoring one side for monetary reasons, the credibility of the competition itself is compromised.

how come you run away form specifics and start preaching nonstop?

 

[HalBass9]

how come you run away form specifics and start preaching nonstop?

LOL, what are the specific?

Preaching? Na, just stating my opinion, I am not pretending to someone I am not.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Two countries shouldn’t be forced to play in the same group every time. Let’s start with that.