Pakistan defers decision to allow import of cotton, sugar from India

[Lego20]

https://www.thehindu.com/news/inter...prices-rise-tensions-ease/article34206468.ece

Partially reversing a two-year old decision to suspend all trade with India, Pakistan announced on Monday that it would allow the import of cotton and sugar from across the border. The decision follows the Line of Control (LoC) ceasefire announced by India and Pakistan in February, and a number of moves seen as part of a larger dialogue process to de-freeze ties.

Also read: Mills association seeks rollback of duty on cotton imports

Addressing the media at the end of a Cabinet meeting that cleared the two proposals from Pakistan’s Commerce Ministry, Pakistan’s newly appointed Finance Minister Hammad Azhar said however that the decision was driven by rising prices and Pakistani industry’s need for the specific products.

“We have allowed the import of sugar, but in the rest of the world too, sugar prices are high because of which imports are not possible. But in our neighbouring country — India — the prices of sugar are much less as compared to Pakistan, so we have decided to reopen sugar trade with India up to 0.5 million tonnes for the private sector,” Mr. Azhar said, adding that there was also high demand for cotton and cotton yarn from India, especially from Pakistani Small and Medium Enterprises (SME) due to increased textile exports but a reduced crop in 2020.


The decision to cancel trade was taken by the Imran Khan government on August 9, 2019, days after the government amended Article 370 and reorganised Jammu and Kashmir.

India’s Ministry of External Affairs did not respond to the development, nor did it respond to questions on whether it was considering any complimentary steps. While India had not banned trade with Pakistan, it suspended cross-LoC trade and withdrew Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status to Pakistan in the wake of the amended Article 370 and reorganised Jammu and Kashmir

Also read: Budget proposes 10% customs duty on import of cotton

Experts said that the move by Pakistan, which follows the granting of sports related visas by India after a gap of three years, scheduling a much-delayed meeting of the Indus Water Commissioners in Delhi in March, peace at the LoC after more than 5,000 ceasefire violations last year, as well as the exchange of salutary messages between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and PM Khan, has raised hopes for further measures.

“The decision by Pakistan to allow trade in the selected items will gradually lead to restoration of normalcy in India-Pakistan trade,” said Afaq Hussain, Director, Bureau of Research on Industry and Economic Fundamentals, that studies India-Pakistan and cross-LoC trade.

“It will help Pakistan’s domestic manufacturers to reduce their cost of production, which had increased because of the trade ban from India. The garment manufacturing industry in Pakistan will be a key beneficiary while it is also going to benefit manufacturers and exporters in India along with the stakeholders in trade, like truckers and service staff, in Punjab,” he added.

 

[Lego20]

https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...-cotton-sugar-to-pakistan/article34208307.ece

India has no objection to export of cotton, sugar to Pakistan

Trade awaits fineprint of Imran Khan govt’s decision
Indian exporters of sugar, cotton and yarn are awaiting the fine print of Pakistan’s decision on Wednesday to lift a one-and-a-half-year ban on imports from India to meet its domestic demand.

Pakistan’s newly-appointed Finance Minister Hammed Azhar told the media that Islamabad had decided to import cotton and sugar from India as the commodities imported from other countries were priced higher.

“The price of sugar in our neighbouring country is cheap,” he said, adding that cotton imports from India would be permitted from June this year.

Pakistan media also reported that the its Economic Coordination Committee had cleared import of five lakh tonnes (lt) sugar from India till June 30 this year.

No clarity on duty
Razak added that the committee’s decision will be placed before Pakistan Cabinet for approval before a notification is issued. However, there was no clarity on the Customs duty part for these imports from India.

Industry players said that the duty factor will be the key for Pakistan to get the Indian commodities at a competitive price despite the fact that New Delhi is already offering these at prices far lower than the prevailing global market rates.

All India Sugar Traders Association Chairman Praful Vithalani told BusinessLine that the Indian government has no objection to exporting sugar to the neighbouring nation and exporters are confident of shipping the five mt.

Sugar exports sop
“The Centre will provide a subsidy of ₹4,000 a tonne for export of sugar by land to Pakistan and ₹6,000 a tonne by sea,” he said.

The subsidy is part of the ₹3,500-crore assistance offered by the government for sugar exports for up to 60 lt during the current season to September. This translates into ₹6,000 a tonne.

Last season, the Centre had offered ₹6,300 crore that helped export 57 lt of sugar with each tonnes being shipped get an average subsidy of ₹9,750 a tonne.

The development to allow import by the private sector comes on the heels of a thaw in Indo-Pakistan relations with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Imran Khan desiring peace in their communication to one another.

In May last year, Pakistan lifted the ban on the import of medicines and their raw materials from India so that there was no shortage of essential drugs amid the novel Coronavirus pandemic. Sugar, cotton and yarn imports are allowed from other destinations, but they have not helped curb the price rise in these commodities.

Asked about India quoting a higher price of $410-415 a tonne for white sugar, Vithalani said the sellers and buyers would negotiate for the best terms before a deal is struck.

White sugar is currently quoted at $425.50 (₹31,150) a tonne in London, whereas domestic prices in Pakistan are ruling at Pakistani rupees 105-110 a kg or about $700 a tonne.

The decision also comes after Pakistan failed to get a good response to its two 50,000 tonnes global tender to buy sugar with sellers quoting over $500 a tonne (₹36,600).

India should not have any problem meeting Pakistan demand as it can still afford to export 10-15 lt of sugar of the 60 lt that qualify for the subsidy. So far, Indian exporters have struck deals to export 43 lt of sugar.

Cotton export prospects
On the other hand, cotton and yarn exporters prefer to await the Pakistan notification. “The cotton situation in Pakistan is bad and the Indian government has not imposed any restrictions to export (to Islamabad),” said Cotton Corporation of India Chairman-cum-Managing Director PK Agarwal.

Cotton prices in Pakistan are literally on fire as its production for the current marketing year (August 2020-July 2021) is 24 per cent lower at 60.19 lakh bales (of 170 kg). It is expected to import at least 10 lakh bales from India.

Agarwal said CCI was open to Pakistan traders bidding for its global sales tender. “It will take a couple of days before we get a clear picture,” he said. “We are the most competitive in the global cotton market and the developments over the next couple of days could even see domestic cotton prices moving up,” said Rajkot-based Anand Poppat, a trader in raw cotton, cotton wastes and yarn.

Cotton prices in New York are ruling at 79.13 cents a pound (₹45,800 for a candy of 356 kg) compared with India’s export benchmark Shankar-6 price of ₹45,000-45,200. Raw cotton or kapas is priced around ₹6,000 a quintal against the minimum support price of ₹5,515 fixed by the Centre for this season.

For the current season, the Committee on Cotton Production and Consumption (CCPC), a body comprising all stakeholders including the government, has projected the output at 371 lakh bales (of 170 kg). The CCPC has also projected cotton exports at 75 lakh bales (50 lakh bales) and a carryover stock of 97.5 lakh bales (120.95 lakh bales).

 

[Bigboii]

is India allowing Pak imports? (needed a Modi emoji)

 

[Lego20]

is India allowing Pak imports? (needed a Modi emoji)

The move from Pakistan was more out of need (desperation) than generosity. As it stands, article 370 still stays withdrawn and Leh/Ladakh remains union territory. Pakistan resuming trade with India under these circumstances shows the vulnerability in their principled high ground.

 

[Bigboii]

The move from Pakistan was more out of need (desperation) than generosity. As it stands, article 370 still stays withdrawn and Leh/Ladakh remains union territory. Pakistan resuming trade with India under these circumstances shows the vulnerability in their principled high ground.

yeah like I said Pak establishment is pretty stupid

they are doing things that shows weakness to even a layman this and the peace talk

there wont be any peace they'll take it as weakness and try to exploit you

No peace ever happened when you show weakness to the enemy, India will try to choke Pakistan rather than actually look at the offer for its sincerity or lack thereof

STUPID,STUPID move!

 

[Itachi]

yeah like I said Pak establishment is pretty stupid

they are doing things that shows weakness to even a layman this and the peace talk

there wont be any peace they'll take it as weakness and try to exploit you

No peace ever happened when you show weakness to the enemy, India will try to choke Pakistan rather than actually look at the offer for its sincerity or lack thereof

STUPID,STUPID move!

One needs to keep keep issues separated while maintaining a political diplomatic relationship because the world isn't isolated anymore.

One can have political differences while working together towards a common goal. Even Pakistan knows that they don't have much ground in Kashmir issue but it keeps the common mass motivated to vote for some leaders.

On the other hand, extract the benefits when it comes to trading. Its not stupid. It is how countries work.

Even Russia helped indirectly raising the nazi party military knowing it's philosophy.

 

[Lego20]

yeah like I said Pak establishment is pretty stupid

they are doing things that shows weakness to even a layman this and the peace talk

there wont be any peace they'll take it as weakness and try to exploit you

No peace ever happened when you show weakness to the enemy, India will try to choke Pakistan rather than actually look at the offer for its sincerity or lack thereof

STUPID,STUPID move!

Please - Pakistan should be the last claiming to want peace - initiator of all wars, revisionist & expansionist agendas, supporters/promoters of terrorists, cease fire violations etc. You see people dont wake with a fresh/blank memory everyday. It will take a lot from Pakistan to convince the world of its sincerity/change in mentality. I dont see that happening ever as long as your army is driving the country.

I am only slightly worried about the Indian govt falling for it - yet again!

 

[SpiritOf1903]

It's the submissive state all bravado aside.

 

[guna]

It's the submissive state all bravado aside.

Trade and Money >> Politics.

 

[Bigboii]

One needs to keep keep issues separated while maintaining a political diplomatic relationship because the world isn't isolated anymore.

One can have political differences while working together towards a common goal. Even Pakistan knows that they don't have much ground in Kashmir issue but it keeps the common mass motivated to vote for some leaders.

On the other hand, extract the benefits when it comes to trading. Its not stupid. It is how countries work.

Even Russia helped indirectly raising the nazi party military knowing it's philosophy.

The point was just about their strategy/communication

its flawed

the message other country is getting is not the message they are trying to send (depending on what you think of this situation that even if they are lying weakness is definitely not the message they want to send)

they are signalling is signals of weakness not peace and when you signal weakness no one gives you peace but the opposite of it

Just think about real life most of the time people are eager to have peace with people they are threatened by

but most of the time if other person shows weakness you exploit it to the fullest and when wanting peace you give the weaker guy the wrong ed of the stick...(just observe in the real world it happens unfortunately)

People have big millitaries just so they can have peace

showing weakness is imo akin to escalating this theater
the other side will try to exploit you, you wont like it and than you'll be further pushed away from this whole process that started/starting

sending signs of weakness is a bad negotiation move

 

[Bigboii]

Please - Pakistan should be the last claiming to want peace - initiator of all wars, revisionist & expansionist agendas, supporters/promoters of terrorists, cease fire violations etc. You see people dont wake with a fresh/blank memory everyday. It will take a lot from Pakistan to convince the world of its sincerity/change in mentality. I dont see that happening ever as long as your army is driving the country.

I am only slightly worried about the Indian govt falling for it - yet again!

ok dude...

 

[IAJ]

Please - Pakistan should be the last claiming to want peace - initiator of all wars, revisionist & expansionist agendas, supporters/promoters of terrorists, cease fire violations etc. You see people dont wake with a fresh/blank memory everyday. It will take a lot from Pakistan to convince the world of its sincerity/change in mentality. I dont see that happening ever as long as your army is driving the country.

I am only slightly worried about the Indian govt falling for it - yet again!

Just like you could not stay away from a Pakistani forum and come and type utter rubbish, jaahil. Your gov is not a kaki chunni lol.

 

[Hornbill]

Only kashmiris will feel betrayed, Spineless ******* of modi and imran have no option other than gloating about benefits of improving bilateral trade.Indian industrialists and businessmen will soon start importing cheap raw materials and goods from pakistan, bilateral trade will remain in favour of India.

 

[Mamoon]

Zor khatam? )

What happened to all the bravado and chest-thumping? Looks like the reality has sunk in...

 

[Mamoon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After India killed Art 370, we said it didn’t matter since we hadn’t accepted it in the first place. Then we protested & banned all trade & contacts until it was restored. Now we are ready to “normalise” without restoration of Article 370! Great Foreign Policy Strategy!</p>— Najam Sethi (@najamsethi) <a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi/status/1377127150550052869?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Mamoon]

When there is shortage of sugar and cotton, solidarity with Kashmir can go for a hike.

Pakistan humiliated yet again, and it is all self-inflicted.

 

[Mamoon]

This is why the world doesn’t and will not take our stance on Kashmir seriously no matter how much dramaybaazi we do.

 

[Mamoon]

Imran:

Modi Hitler, Modi Mussolini, Modi fascist, Modi terrorist. We suspend ties with India until they give Kashmiris their independence.

Also Imran:

Dear Modi, do you mind sending some cotton and sugar our way? We will be grateful.

)

 

[Adil_94]

Imran really has failed with this Kashmir strategy. Tried to take the moral high ground over the Kashmir issue. But the world doesnt work like that its all about interests and paisa. N India is a larger more lucrative market for Western nations at this time. They arent ending that over Kashmir.

Though that speech at the UN with its great English prose Imran showing he studied GCSE History with his knowledge of Fascism and Nazism.

But it was to no avail just looked good to diaspora Pakistanis and his hardcore fans.

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistan’s Indian policy over the last two years has been very amateurish.

It took a hardline approach on the Kashmir issue and made it clear that as long as India doesn’t give Kashmir its rights, Pakistan will not have ties with India.

An aggressive narrative that has now blown in our faces.

There are two aspects to this: firstly, General Bajwa used India as a bogeyman to extend his tenure instead of retiring with dignity.

He made the military look like a weak institution by giving the ludicrous excuse that the COAS office changing personnel during these times would give India an advantage.

Ironically, the Indian COAS office changed personnel at the same time without any problems and controversies.

After succeeding in his desperation to hold onto power, Bajwa has softened his stance on India and toned down the scaremongering.

Secondly, Imran has used the Kashmir issue as a convenient distraction from the failures of his government.

By firing tweets at Modi like a child and calling him Hitler, terrorist, fascist etc. on weekly basis, he was able to divert attention away from the fact that his government has flopped big time.

Pakistan simply bit more than it could chew. Who would have thought that Pakistan’s bravado will come crashing down because of cotton & sugar. )

 

[Mamoon]

Also, it is time for the people of Jammu & Kashmir to finally realize that Pakistan couldn’t care less about them.

They are simply a tool for the military of Pakistan to exert domestic influence and it has also been used by the Imran Khan government as a destruction from the flop show of his clueless government.

All it took was cotton & sugar for Pakistan’s lack of sincerity on the Kashmir issue to get exposed.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Zor khatam? )

What happened to all the bravado and chest-thumping? Looks like the reality has sunk in...

Sounds like it applies more to Modi, no?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Sounds like it applies more to Modi, no?

The poster supports military strikes on Pakistan from India, take it with a pinch of salt.

Modi wrote a letter to IK to congratulate Pakistan on Pak day. It was Modi who in writing changed his tuen to wanting peace.

Pakistan is simply opening some trade due to this.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sounds like it applies more to Modi, no?

Modi didnt ban trade, Imran did after art 370 in Kashmir was made infructuous.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Modi didnt ban trade, Imran did after art 370 in Kashmir was made infructuous.

Who is talking about trade?
We are talking about chest thumping against each other.... especially how the entire modi clowns acted after Pulwama.

 

[guna]

The poster supports military strikes on Pakistan from India, take it with a pinch of salt.

Modi wrote a letter to IK to congratulate Pakistan on Pak day. It was Modi who in writing changed his tuen to wanting peace.

Pakistan is simply opening some trade due to this.

What [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is saying that Imran ditched Kashmir issue over Cheeni.

Sugar in Tea anytime of the day over Kashmir.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is saying that Imran ditched Kashmir issue over Cheeni.

Sugar in Tea anytime of the day over Kashmir.

Modi a Hindu extremist, usually you are against basic religions but now support Modi

Sure he did , which is why he wrote back to Modi's congrualtions letter, Kashmir must be solved before any peace. Modi extended peace with his letter firstly, IK responded by buying some sugar off chaiwala.

 

[guna]

Modi a Hindu extremist, usually you are against basic religions but now support Modi

Sure he did , which is why he wrote back to Modi's congrualtions letter, Kashmir must be solved before any peace. Modi extended peace with his letter firstly, IK responded by buying some sugar off chaiwala.

I do not support any political party. PTI supporters and Kashmiris must be disappointed to see Imran backing away from his stance on 370.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Wait i thought no trade with India post 370. What is causing Pakistani establishment to change their tunes like this ? Someone surely is pulling the strings outside of Pakistan and India... UAE Royals/Saudis/America..

Question is, does it benefit Pakistan and it's establishment ?

 

[Romali_rotti]

Is there any external pressure on Imran ? This is making him look weak after he banned all imports from India after Article 370 removal..

 

[cricketjoshila]

Who is talking about trade?
We are talking about chest thumping against each other.... especially how the entire modi clowns acted after Pulwama.

The only clown were people who gave statements after 370 was made infructuous.

Post Pulwama trade wascnot banned by India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The poster supports military strikes on Pakistan from India, take it with a pinch of salt.

Modi wrote a letter to IK to congratulate Pakistan on Pak day. It was Modi who in writing changed his tuen to wanting peace.

Pakistan is simply opening some trade due to this.

Writing a letter on pak day is a diplomatic nicety followed since decades.

Pakistan is importing sugar as the cost is sky rocketing in Pakistan and no one is selling it cheaper than India.

This is pakistan's need.

 

[PetroDollars]

the news goes hand in hand with indias destruction of farmers and new deals signed with the arabs for food processing units

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

No sign of any PTI supporter on this thread. Though i do think that this is the right thing to do because it will bring some price relief to ordinary Pakistanis.

Question remains why is Pakistani agriculture sector not self sufficient?

 

[cricketjoshila]

the news goes hand in hand with indias destruction of farmers and new deals signed with the arabs for food processing units

Destruction of farmers? Except Punjab Haryana and few jatts the country has not seen any farmer protest.

The Sugar and cotton belt has hardly had protest.

 

[saeedhk]

Another day, another humiliation for Pakistan! Weren’t the countries in a state of war and Modi was Hitler and the BJP was the Nazi party?

Jub bhook lagi, toh India agaya yaad! Kaha gay akar?

By the way, can anyone tell me where is the Indo-Pak war being fought for which Bajwa extended his stay?

 

[Mamoon]

Who would have thought that the chai jokes that we used to make would die because of...sugar.

Who would have thought that Pakistan’s stance on Kashmir would be martyred by....sugar & cotton.

What happened to Pakistan’s triumph over India in 5th generation hybrid warfare? Sugar & cotton happened.

Along with the bags of sugar, Modi should send Imran a copy of Amitabh’s movie “Cheeni Kum”

)

 

[Itachi]

Modi a Hindu extremist, usually you are against basic religions but now support Modi

Sure he did , which is why he wrote back to Modi's congrualtions letter, Kashmir must be solved before any peace. Modi extended peace with his letter firstly, IK responded by buying some sugar off chaiwala.

So does it mean, once peace is restored, Pakistan again returns to its original character of begging from others?

 

[Mamoon]

Sounds like it applies more to Modi, no?

It doesn’t. Pakistan’s own goal is very easy to explain and it is yet another example of why Pakistan’s Kashmir stance is not taken seriously on international forums.

The moral of the story is that you should not forget your aukaat and take such a hard, arrogant stance that you do not have the means to support later on.

The difference between Modi and Imran’s narrative is the following: Modi accused Pakistan of arming terrorists in J&K but did not suspend trade ties with Pakistan.

India will always have the room to claim that Pakistan has changed its policy and is no longer arming terrorists in J&K even if it is not true, simply because Pakistan will never accept that they arm terrorists in J&K.

So it is a win-win situation for Modi and India as far as optics are concerned. Moreover, because they were not the one to suspend trade ties, the restoration of trade ties does not make them look weak.

On the other hand, the Imran administration thumped their chests and after making direct verbal attacks at Modi, asserted that Pakistan will not have any ties with India until they restore Article 370 and give Kashmiris their due rights.

Since nothing has changed on that front, Pakistan’s softened stance and intention to restore ties shows its lack of conviction and how it bit more than it could chew.

The world knows that the Kashmir situation has not changed but the world can also see Pakistan swallowing its pride and making a walk of shame towards India it needs cotton & sugar.

It is complete humiliation for Pakistan and it is also entirely self-inflicted. We went overboard with our Kashmir narrative because the power-hungry Bajwa used the Kashmir issue to keep his throne while his disciple Imran used the Kashmir issue to distract the country from the failures of his government and now this is the result.

 

[RajBan]

Imran really has failed with this Kashmir strategy. Tried to take the moral high ground over the Kashmir issue. But the world doesnt work like that its all about interests and paisa. N India is a larger more lucrative market for Western nations at this time. They arent ending that over Kashmir.

Though that speech at the UN with its great English prose Imran showing he studied GCSE History with his knowledge of Fascism and Nazism.

But it was to no avail just looked good to diaspora Pakistanis and his hardcore fans.

Do you.see Pakistani political leaders taking a large deviation from the stance taken by establishment? Once Bajwa and Modi have started posturing to each other( understand both are under obligation because of complex set of factors), why do everybody expect Imran to do something different?

 

[saeedhk]

Pakistan ki aqal or hosh tikanay agai! Modi has shown himself to be a strong, astute and competent statesman. Imran can never match the intelligence of Modi.

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistan ki aqal or hosh tikanay agai! Modi has shown himself to be a strong, astute and competent statesman. Imran can never match the intelligence of Modi.

Imran is a nobody compared to Modi. He has no intelligence and knows nothing about politics.

He thought being the PM was like captaining a cricket team and that is why he has achieved nothing but embarrassment during the last 3 years.

Modi is a proper leader.

 

[Mamoon]

Do you.see Pakistani political leaders taking a large deviation from the stance taken by establishment? Once Bajwa and Modi have started posturing to each other( understand both are under obligation because of complex set of factors), why do everybody expect Imran to do something different?

Pakistan’s India policy is decided in the military headquarters. Bajwa used India as a bogeymen to extend his tenure as COAS instead of retiring with dignity.

Inran on the other hand used India to distract the nation from the failures of his government.

 

[Hornbill]

Pakistan ki aqal or hosh tikanay agai! Modi has shown himself to be a strong, astute and competent statesman. Imran can never match the intelligence of Modi.

Tbh modi is just a puppet, Amith sha and people selected by Indian corporates are behind decision makings

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Tbh modi is just a puppet, Amith sha and people selected by Indian corporates are behind decision makings

)))
Man delusion really runs deep across the border.
Modi, unlike Imran, was selected by the Republic of India and its people, for a second term.
But, if that keeps you happy.. So be it.
The real issue is, Imran now has to backtrack. Article 370 will not be revoked, so there will never be change in that. What happened to the stance of the establishment in Pakistan ? Why the change in tunes.

 

[Last Monetarist]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-india-trade/pakistan-decision-on-india-trade-deferred-until-delhi-reviews-kashmir-status-foreign-minister-idUSKBN2BO5EL?il=0

Pakistan’s decision on whether to reopen trade with India has been deferred by the cabinet until Delhi reviews its 2019 move to revoke the Kashmir region’s special status, Pakistan’s foreign minister said on Thursday.

In an effort to cool local demand and prices, Pakistan’s Economic Coordination Committee on Wednesday gave the go-ahead for imports from India.

That move was to have ended nearly two years of trade suspension between the nuclear-armed rivals.

 

[Itachi]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-india-trade/pakistan-decision-on-india-trade-deferred-until-delhi-reviews-kashmir-status-foreign-minister-idUSKBN2BO5EL?il=0

Looks like IK doesn't have that authority as he claims. These flip flops reminds of PCB.

Take a decision and stick with it.

 

[saeedhk]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-india-trade/pakistan-decision-on-india-trade-deferred-until-delhi-reviews-kashmir-status-foreign-minister-idUSKBN2BO5EL?il=0

Imran’s jelly spine at play again! He cannot withstand the slightest of pressures.

 

[Kriketer]

Please - Pakistan should be the last claiming to want peace - initiator of all wars, revisionist & expansionist agendas, supporters/promoters of terrorists, cease fire violations etc. You see people dont wake with a fresh/blank memory everyday. It will take a lot from Pakistan to convince the world of its sincerity/change in mentality. I dont see that happening ever as long as your army is driving the country.

I am only slightly worried about the Indian govt falling for it - yet again!

Typical rhetoric from across the border. Stick to Bollywood and your media to get the news of chest thumping. No wonder you folks are delusional to the next level

 

[Itachi]

Typical rhetoric from across the border. Stick to Bollywood and your media to get the news of chest thumping. No wonder you folks are delusional to the next level

To be fair, those were claims from Pakistan authority themselves and they took pride in it. India media just reiterate what was stated by Pakistani authority.

 

[mazkhan]

Should just hand the agricultural sector to the Chinese

Why the hell is such a fertile country like pakistan facing shortages in agricultural products

Cotton sugar can be grown in pakistan from kpk to sindh is capable of growing cotton and sugar cane, sugar beet

 

[saeedhk]

An agrarian country is unable to feed its people! Height of incompetency, corruption and mismanagement!

 

[Mamoon]

A completely circus show as always.

Total confusion within the government with no coordination and planning between the different departments.

The opposition showed them how fragile their stance on India proved to be and hence the U-turn.

Unfortunately or fortunately, the damage has already been done. Our chest-thumping and arrogance has gone bust.

Yet another diplomatic victory for India. Imran is no competition for Modi.

 

[Mamoon]

An agrarian country is unable to feed its people! Height of incompetency, corruption and mismanagement!

They will blame the previous government as usual. What have they done in the past 3 years? Nothing. Total failure.

 

[Kriketer]

To be fair, those were claims from Pakistan authority themselves and they took pride in it. India media just reiterate what was stated by Pakistani authority.

No. We only have crowd from a specific place who think all angels reside in India and all wrong that happens in India is due to Pakistan.

Pakistan is their obsession and they can't help it

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After India killed Art 370, we said it didn’t matter since we hadn’t accepted it in the first place. Then we protested & banned all trade & contacts until it was restored. Now we are ready to “normalise” without restoration of Article 370! Great Foreign Policy Strategy!</p>— Najam Sethi (@najamsethi) <a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi/status/1377127150550052869?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hmm seems Sethi Sahib spoke too soon.....

 

[Kriketer]

They will blame the previous government as usual. What have they done in the past 3 years? Nothing. Total failure.

Imran for majority is doing mostly fine. It's only a few who are fan of leaders who are running to other countries or forming new combined parties left, right and center who have been having sleepless nights. You are a prime example of it, hence you are here beating your chest over something that was bound to eventually happen and neither is a big deal

Trades are never blocked for long, that's too between big consuming neighboring countries. Politics and trade should never be mixed and neither should be blocked to begin with. In this case it's Modi also approaching after doing deendoora in all his election campaign by talking cr*p about Pakistan and now writing letters to Pakistan lol. While on the other hand Imran has always spoken about peace and better ties with India from the start. None of the two countries are leaving their holdings on Kashmir and will continue similar trends on occasional basis.

Imran is here to stay and no matter the amount of deendoora you folks beat, it's not going to change a thing. Pakistan finally got a leader who acts like a leader and doesn't bankrupt its on country. You should be glad that we have a change in the office finally who doesn't worry about building mansions in London

 

[Civil]

Wasn't proposal to resume trade made by ECC
economic council which is led by finance minister and not PM?

Once their proposal was brought to cabinet it was rejected it appears.

If this is the case where is the U Turn from leadership?

Honestly asking and not to debate or troll but is there a piece of news I'm missing? Or people have jumped the gun to call this a reversal etc.

ECC must recommend what is best for economy ..clearly low tarrif trade is always in interests of economy. But did Imran propose this or he got it proposed to him and he rejected it?

 

[Itachi]

No. We only have crowd from a specific place who think all angels reside in India and all wrong that happens in India is due to Pakistan.

Pakistan is their obsession and they can't help it

Your post has nothing to do with what I wrote. My post doesn't address anything that is related to the crowds or common people but Pakistan establishments themselves.

 

[Itachi]

Wasn't proposal to resume trade made by ECC
economic council which is led by finance minister and not PM?

Once their proposal was brought to cabinet it was rejected it appears.

If this is the case where is the U Turn from leadership?

Honestly asking and not to debate or troll but is there a piece of news I'm missing? Or people have jumped the gun to call this a reversal etc.

ECC must recommend what is best for economy ..clearly low tarrif trade is always in interests of economy. But did Imran propose this or he got it proposed to him and he rejected it?

Read the OP. cabinet cleared the proposal(s). And then when backslash started to occur, they retract the clearance. Since it is from cabinet, it has to get a green node from IK (on technicality) but if he was just becoming a puppet, then that's a whole different issue.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

No. We only have crowd from a specific place who think all angels reside in India and all wrong that happens in India is due to Pakistan.

Pakistan is their obsession and they can't help it

If you could read the Reuters link provided, it is clearly stated :

It wasn’t immediately clear why Pakistan would defer a decision within a day. The ECC approval came only after Khan had seen and authorised the proposal to import sugar from India, according to a commerce ministry summary seen by Reuters.

Now Imran has just backtracked on this.
What a shambolic decision making.
Now move on.

 

[Technics 1210]

)))
Man delusion really runs deep across the border.
Modi, unlike Imran, was selected by the Republic of India and its people, for a second term.

You read it here folks, Modi is better because rightwing Indians voted for Modi twice.

Amazing but true logic according to Hindutvas.

Imran unlike Modi wasn't banned from entering the UK/USA on religious terrorism charges.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

You read it here folks, Modi is better because rightwing Indians voted for Modi twice.

Amazing but true logic according to Hindutvas.

Imran unlike Modi wasn't banned from entering the UK/USA on religious terrorism charges.

First of all I am not a Hindu so your jibes are irrelevant.
Second, he was elected twice by the people of India, it is common knowledge and he was welcomed pretty warmly in UK and USA.

Imran is banned and gagged by his military masters rest of the world does not bother and iota about him.

 

[Technics 1210]

First of all I am not a Hindu so your jibes are irrelevant.
Second, he was elected twice by the people of India, it is common knowledge and he was welcomed pretty warmly in UK and USA.

Imran is banned and gagged by his military masters rest of the world does not bother and iota about him.

Yes your Messiah Modi was welcomed after his ban was lifted. How does this change the facts? Ahh yes, sugar coating the truth may help the bitter taste in your mouth.

Why not come out with stupid logic like Modi is better because he is older.

Here's a better one, how long was IK in politics compared to Modi, and who got to the PM post fastest?

Grab your script pal.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Yes your Messiah Modi was welcomed after his ban was lifted. How does this change the facts? Ahh yes, sugar coating the truth may help the bitter taste in your mouth.

Why not come out stupid logic like Modi is better because he is older.

Here's a better one, how long was IK in politics compared to Modi, and who got to the PM post fastest?

Grab your script pal.

When you get selected instead of being elected you will be fastest that is common knowledge.

You can keep living in your delusional world. Imran can’t even make a decision on whether to import sugar or not, that is the true logic.
So keep running your mouth and beg for more loans. That is all left in Imran’s destiny.

 

[Technics 1210]

When you get selected instead of being elected you will be fastest that is common knowledge.

You can keep living in your delusional world. Imran can’t even make a decision on whether to import sugar or not, that is the true logic.
So keep running your mouth and beg for more loans. That is all left in Imran’s destiny.

Come again? You're not Hindu but are happy to defend Modi?

The very definition of delusional.

 

[cricketjoshila]

First of all I am not a Hindu so your jibes are irrelevant.
Second, he was elected twice by the people of India, it is common knowledge and he was welcomed pretty warmly in UK and USA.

Imran is banned and gagged by his military masters rest of the world does not bother and iota about him.

The last two US presidents hosted Modi. Modi addressed the US congress.

In 2005 Modi was an acccused, he was acquitted in 2012. But fools try to rinse and repeat.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Yes your Messiah Modi was welcomed after his ban was lifted. How does this change the facts? Ahh yes, sugar coating the truth may help the bitter taste in your mouth.

Why not come out with stupid logic like Modi is better because he is older.

Here's a better one, how long was IK in politics compared to Modi, and who got to the PM post fastest?

Grab your script pal.

Pal,
Cotton and Sugar shortage you have under Imran’s leadership.
Have to take record breaking loans from rest of the world under Imran’s leadership.
Inflation is highest in Pakistan under Imran’s leadership.
In short, Pakistan is _
You can fill in the blanks. How about this script of incompetence. Grab it and run with it.

Modi is a proven leader in Gujrat first and then at global scale. Relationship with UAE/Saudis etc have been best under him and he got civilian awards from them.

The only reward that Imran got was driving the Saudi Prince around while asking for 2 billion dollars, which when they asked to return, your foreign minister went on apology streak.
What kind of leader is this?

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Come again? You're not Hindu but are happy to defend Modi?

The very definition of delusional.

I am an Indian, and I have no delusions about it.
What are you? Arab or given the recent romance, Turk now? Or someone else.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

The last two US presidents hosted Modi. Modi addressed the US congress.

In 2005 Modi was an acccused, he was acquitted in 2012. But fools try to rinse and repeat.

UK PM hosted him. Had grand welcome in Wembley.

 

[Technics 1210]

Pal,

Stopped reading here.

I doubt you will around on PP by the end of the year.

No point wasting time with you. Scripted anyway.

 

[cricketjoshila]

When you get selected instead of being elected you will be fastest that is common knowledge.

You can keep living in your delusional world. Imran can’t even make a decision on whether to import sugar or not, that is the true logic.
So keep running your mouth and beg for more loans. That is all left in Imran’s destiny.

PTI was founded in 1996 and fought elections and losing elections. Modi was not even in the Bjp then. He was in RSS. He won his first election in 2001-02 and hasnt lost any election. Since then he has been a CM or the PM.

Imran lol.

 

[Technics 1210]

I am an Indian, and I have no delusions about it.
What are you? Arab or given the recent romance, Turk now? Or someone else.

You will not be Indian when you flee 'incredible India' for a better life in the West.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

PTI was founded in 1996 and fought elections and losing elections. Modi was not even in the Bjp then. He was in RSS. He won his first election in 2001-02 and hasnt lost any election. Since then he has been a CM or the PM.

Imran lol.

As I said delusions run much deeper.
The day lying stops I guess the destiny will change as well.

 

[cricketjoshila]

UK PM hosted him. Had grand welcome in Wembley.

Couple of Brit pakistanis at that time tried to act with much bravado as if they could force UK govt to sever ties with Modi.

 

[cricketjoshila]

As I said delusions run much deeper.
The day lying stops I guess the destiny will change as well.

Its particular with some overseas pakistanis.

 

[Technics 1210]

Modi joined RSS in 71 - a right wing political party.

Can't trust 'doctors' these days either.

Don't let the Hindutva trolls fool you.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

You will not be Indian when you flee 'incredible India' for a better life in the West.

Again, you don’t know me, my relationship with my country and what and where I spent most of time. You don’t need to know as well.
But you had to go for personal jibes and insults , first on my religion and then on my nationality.

This means you have not valid points to debate, and no leg to stand on.
Boy I touched a nerve I guess. Sorry hopefully you are at peace.
May be time to change the script as this one of yours does not work.

 

[King-Misbah]

PTI was founded in 1996 and fought elections and losing elections. Modi was not even in the Bjp then. He was in RSS. He won his first election in 2001-02 and hasnt lost any election. Since then he has been a CM or the PM.

Imran lol.

PM Imran was guests at the royals and other elites in the UK when Modi was serving garam, garam tea. Please do not compare a classy man to the person termed as "butcher of Gujarat".

 

[Technics 1210]

Again, you don’t know me, my relationship with my country and what and where I spent most of time. You don’t need to know as well.
But you had to go for personal jibes and insults , first on my religion and then on my nationality.

This means you have not valid points to debate, and no leg to stand on.
Boy I touched a nerve I guess. Sorry hopefully you are at peace.
May be time to change the script as this one of yours does not work.

How many times are you going to use the word jibe? Do you even know what it means? Insecure much?

The only thing that has touched your nerve is this thread and when you were exposed for being an IT fraud. Though seeing an Indian flogging incredible India for a Pakistan forum is very touching indeed.