Pakistan faces water crisis as India builds dams on shared rivers

[Hikaru]

I was hoping India will do something so that those army generals or terrorist handlers will get effected directly but what a loose response from Coward govt. This will effect common masses and they don't have to anything with these attacks and all. Modi and Amit Shah are all talk and no action.

Well to be fair, they are fighting cowards hiding behind terrorists as well, so why not. Whats bigger cowardice than sending Jihadis to gun down families enjoying vacations in Mumbai or Kashmir?

 

[HalBass9]

It’s important for the people of India to recognize that if the Modi government is resorting to such extreme measures, it signals a degree of desperation. The government appears unwilling to risk another Balakot like scenario, where the aftermath brought more embarrassment than strategic gain.

Unless the Modi administration receives absolute assurance that Pakistan will not retaliate, it’s unlikely they would risk escalation through direct military action. But the real question is, will Pakistan, under diplomatic pressure, absorb such an act and allow the regional balance of power to shift? Under the current circumstances, that seems highly improbable.

In this context, the Modi government, much like segments of the media, may have acted too hastily. And in hindsight, it could prove to be one of the costliest missteps in its tenure.

 

[Hikaru]

It’s important for the people of India to recognize that if the Modi government is resorting to such extreme measures, it signals a degree of desperation. The government appears unwilling to risk another Balakot like scenario, where the aftermath brought more embarrassment than strategic gain.

Unless the Modi administration receives absolute assurance that Pakistan will not retaliate, it’s unlikely they would risk escalation through direct military action. But the real question is, will Pakistan, under diplomatic pressure, absorb such an act and allow the regional balance of power to shift? Under the current circumstances, that seems highly improbable.

In this context, the Modi government, much like segments of the media, may have acted too hastily. And in hindsight, it could prove to be one of the costliest missteps in its tenure.

Looking forward to Pakistani response today. A new trajectory for India Pak relations is sure to be laid this week. How bad it gets is to be seen.

 

[HalBass9]

Looking forward to Pakistani response today. A new trajectory for India Pak relations is sure to be laid this week. How bad it gets is to be seen.

Pakistan will have no choice but to retaliate to any direct military aggression.

 

[Hikaru]

Pakistan will have no choice but to retaliate to any direct military aggression.

I know, I was talking about the response to water treaty. It could go anywhere from raising objection internationally to threat of bombing Indian dams.

What would you have done @HalBass9

 

[Devadwal]

I was hoping India will do something so that those army generals or terrorist handlers will get effected directly but what a loose response from Coward govt. This will effect common masses and they don't have to anything with these attacks and all. Modi and Amit Shah are all talk and no action.

Do you even know what was Jammu and Kashmir demands from central government?

The people of Jammu and Kashmir have for decades demanded India withdraw from Indus Water Treaty.

Although India has not walked out of the treaty but suspended it, it can be used to gain more water. The all party meet today in J&K welcoming its suspension and a resolution in the assembly will put Pak in a twist. The very people it claims to be fighting for with terrorist attacks, welcoming diversion of waters.

 

[HalBass9]

I know, I was talking about the response to water treaty. It could go anywhere from raising objection internationally to threat of bombing Indian dams.

What would you have done @HalBass9

Make it a PR disaster for India. That’s all Pakistan has to do.

 

[Red-Indian]

To be fair, excluding the bombast, it's been a pretty measured response from the Modi government so far.

The Diplomatic links cut are neither here nor there though they further reduce the already thin lines of communication and increase chances of miscommunication.

The Indus water treaty withdrawal is little more than a gesture at this point. There may be some extra water held in the Kishanganga and Ratle reservoirs but from what I read a year or so ago, it's not like India's built some huge reservoir capacity. It will take years of reservoir and canal building before any serious downstream effects in Pakistan begin to show. India's been itching to find an excuse to abrogate the treaty...there was a renegotiation demand a short while ago so I suppose this came in handy.

Now that the public show is done, it's the silent reprisals that will have to be watched - both economic and military/quasi-military.

 

[MP2011]

I was hoping India will do something so that those army generals or terrorist handlers will get effected directly but what a loose response from Coward govt. This will effect common masses and they don't have to anything with these attacks and all. Modi and Amit Shah are all talk and no action.

These 2 cowards have always been like this. Just hollow promises (which their andhbhakts lap up gleefully) and when it goes wrong, they fire empty missiles from someone else's shoulders.

 

[kingusama92]

I hope the water treaty stuff is more for domestic appeasement to calm things down.

Deciding to avenge the lives of innocent Indians by harming innocent Pakistanis is a dangerous path. Logically, it also doesn't solve the root of the issue unless the solution is to just harm people indiscriminately.

 

[Devadwal]

Now pakistan army chief Munir will understand - Pakistan’s jugular vein is not Kashmir, but Indus River System.

 

[m.shah]

We have been receiving multiple distress calls of Kashmiri students from Dehradun. The students feel threatened and insecured in the aftermath of video released by Hindu Rakhsha Dal, warning Kashmiri Muslim students "to vacate Dehradun by 10 AM today" @GreaterKashmir
Via Jk students Union
This is what attackers wanted.

 

[Buzzinga]

Make it a PR disaster for India. That’s all Pakistan has to do.

Imran Khan was doing the PR stunt in his entire tenure as PM. What exactly did it achieve for Pakistan?

Global alliances have been pretty much settled. Pakistan's biggest ally China has never been friendly towards India. So nothing changing there.

US didn't do anything when India was buying oil and other stuff from Russia ,they surely not going to arm twist India because of Pakistan. Japan, France, Israel, UK etc are pretty much aligned with India for several reasons.

So basically this PR disaster for India you're hoping comes from where? China? Thats already there.

 

[Red-Indian]

We have been receiving multiple distress calls of Kashmiri students from Dehradun. The students feel threatened and insecured in the aftermath of video released by Hindu Rakhsha Dal, warning Kashmiri Muslim students "to vacate Dehradun by 10 AM today" @GreaterKashmir
Via Jk students Union
This is what attackers wanted.

Yes there's definitely a tension. A couple of Kashmiri Associates who are in one of my teams have asked for a couple of weeks of work from home until things calm down. Their parents are really worried apparently.

There's been a very well executed PR campaign to highlight the reactions and condemnation by peaceful Kashmiris. I hope the BJP and similar organisations are also able to hold back their worst attack dogs from making provocative statements against Kashmiris and Indian Muslims. I wouldn't be surprised to see that brave local who lost his life turned into a larger than life hero.

Paradoxically, it may be best for the government to dial up the vitriol against Pakistan to max to avoid escalations in India.

 

[Buzzinga]

Yes there's definitely a tension. A couple of Kashmiri Associates who are in one of my teams have asked for a couple of weeks of work from home until things calm down. Their parents are really worried apparently.

There's been a very well executed PR campaign to highlight the reactions and condemnation by peaceful Kashmiris. I hope the BJP and similar organisations are also able to hold back their worst attack dogs from making provocative statements against Kashmiris and Indian Muslims. I wouldn't be surprised to see that brave local who lost his life turned into a larger than life hero.

Paradoxically, it may be best for the government to dial up the vitriol against Pakistan to max to avoid escalations in India.

Different locations, different set of people i believe. There are lots of Kashmiris living in my locality of Gurgaon. Students and working guys as well.

I haven't noticed any anger towars Kashmiris this time which is refreshing to see.

But again majority of residents here are from working class , working their ass off for MNCs, Banks, IT firms etc.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I want to make my stance clear in this thread before i am wrongfully accused.

I don’t support complete suspension of IWT and i do not support eco terrorism as a way to respond in such times.

Yes, if it is about a disagreement on an unfair clause in the IWT, I would support a hearing on the matter.

Whole humanity depends on water and it cannot be used as a means to wage war or to punish people no matter what.

Those who support me on this may either leave a thumbs up or a heart emoji on this post so i can have their acknowledgement.

I hope after years of debating you all know by now that when it comes to Dharma i am never afraid to go hard and to protect Dharma i can go to war but i will never resort women’s & eunuchs way of fighting.

 

[shortbread]

The next six months will reveal India’s stance on water flow as per the Indus Treaty and how far they'll go. Immediate action is impossible, yet some on social media, oblivious to the complexities involved, oversimplify the issue as if water flows like a tap; the reality is far more complex, that volume of water cannot be controlled by mere mortals.

However, if India accelerates large-scale infrastructure projects at pace, it could signal a serious concern, it's something the current Indian administration is capable of. Following November, during the dry season, India may exert more control over water flow. This when the country will feel the pinch if India throttles water flow.

They had a plan in place and I have a feeling Modi's administration might have been biding its time for a strategic move regarding the Indus treaty all this while. For Pakistan, the pressing challenge lies in overcoming diplomatic and strategic shortcomings, necessitating their utmost competence to effectively counter the enemy, unfortunately I have little hope in the current Munir + Sharif + zardari combo.

 

[Devadwal]

The next six months will reveal India’s stance on water flow as per the Indus Treaty and how far they'll go. Immediate action is impossible, yet some on social media, oblivious to the complexities involved, oversimplify the issue as if water flows like a tap; the reality is far more complex, that volume of water cannot be controlled by mere mortals.

However, if India accelerates large-scale infrastructure projects at pace, it could signal a serious concern, it's something the current Indian administration is capable of. Following November, during the dry season, India may exert more control over water flow. This when the country will feel the pinch if India throttles water flow.

They had a plan in place and I have a feeling Modi's administration might have been biding its time for a strategic move regarding the Indus treaty all this while. For Pakistan, the pressing challenge lies in overcoming diplomatic and strategic shortcomings, necessitating their utmost competence to effectively counter the enemy, unfortunately I have little hope in the current Munir + Sharif + zardari combo.

India is not going to stop the water. We don’t have the capacity to, nor should we attempt to. But the thing is, we have always had issues with the treaty, that didn’t allow us to fully exploit our rights over what was allocated to us in the treaty. Eg Kishanganga project which Pak blocked till arbitration ruled in our favour.

Further, we have additional needs given today’s realities - demographics, drinking water, irrigation and other needs. Imagine Kashmir is facing water crisis - with all those rivers flowing there.

So suspending the treaty allows us to figure out how much more water we need from the Western rivers and undertake projects thereof. It won’t happen overnight.

The point is to not stop waters, but use more of it for our needs. Pakistan was unwilling to renegotiate. Now we have found a good reason to do it without talks.

If Pakistan is troubled by it, then it has to talk to us, because we have not walked away from it, but suspended it. We will talk only if they stop terror - which they won’t.

Suspension and not abrogation puts us in a heads I win, tails you lose advantage.

 

[IAJ]

Indian news anchors screaming out how the children in Pakistan will die out of thirst. Sickening mentality.

We are condemning the loss of innocent lives both in Kashmir and Balochistan and these scumbags are enjoying potential deaths of innocent.

 

[mazkhan]

Nothing will happen the 3 rivers are too massive to divert it would take years and a colossal engineering feat to.divert those rivers plus it's almost impossible due to the glacieral melt and monsoon for someone to even control such large volumes of water.

For pakistan it's simple more dams and reservoirs are needed and for iwt blackmail there is an answer it's called kalabagh dam .
Better storage of rainwater pakistan is not a desert its gets it's adequate rain even balochistan gets rain , the water needs better managing .

But for dams and canals expect the sind to play provincial ethnic politics


Pakistan needs to deal with these ethnic traitors first

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India is not going to stop the water. We don’t have the capacity to, nor should we attempt to. But the thing is, we have always had issues with the treaty, that didn’t allow us to fully exploit our rights over what was allocated to us in the treaty. Eg Kishanganga project which Pak blocked till arbitration ruled in our favour.

Further, we have additional needs given today’s realities - demographics, drinking water, irrigation and other needs. Imagine Kashmir is facing water crisis - with all those rivers flowing there.

So suspending the treaty allows us to figure out how much more water we need from the Western rivers and undertake projects thereof. It won’t happen overnight.

The point is to not stop waters, but use more of it for our needs. Pakistan was unwilling to renegotiate. Now we have found a good reason to do it without talks.

If Pakistan is troubled by it, then it has to talk to us, because we have not walked away from it, but suspended it. We will talk only if they stop terror - which they won’t.

Suspension and not abrogation puts us in a heads I win, tails you lose advantage.

@emranabbas check bolded

 

[Red-Indian]

Different locations, different set of people i believe. There are lots of Kashmiris living in my locality of Gurgaon. Students and working guys as well.

I haven't noticed any anger towars Kashmiris this time which is refreshing to see.

But again majority of residents here are from working class , working their ass off for MNCs, Banks, IT firms etc.

True...I'm not even sure how based in actual reality the nervousness is. They're both kids - a CA and an MBA who joined in the last couple of years and I can see how their parents might be worried in the current environment.

 

[mazkhan]

Indian news anchors screaming out how the children in Pakistan will die out of thirst. Sickening mentality.

We are condemning the loss of innocent lives both in Kashmir and Balochistan and these scumbags are enjoying potential deaths of innocent.

No one drinks river and canal water

Pakistanis use groundwater from Wells and boreholes

 

[Bewal Express]

Indian news anchors screaming out how the children in Pakistan will die out of thirst. Sickening mentality.

We are condemning the loss of innocent lives both in Kashmir and Balochistan and these scumbags are enjoying potential deaths of innocent.

The Ind media really are the pits

 

[rpant_gabba]

I want to make my stance clear in this thread before i am wrongfully accused.

I don’t support complete suspension of IWT and i do not support eco terrorism as a way to respond in such times.

Yes, if it is about a disagreement on an unfair clause in the IWT, I would support a hearing on the matter.

Whole humanity depends on water and it cannot be used as a means to wage war or to punish people no matter what.

Those who support me on this may either leave a thumbs up or a heart emoji on this post so i can have their acknowledgement.

I hope after years of debating you all know by now that when it comes to Dharma i am never afraid to go hard and to protect Dharma i can go to war but i will never resort women’s & eunuchs way of fighting.

Back to being board clown I see.

 

[RexRex]

Say your prayers, Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915091468718416085

 

[emranabbas]

So any update on the paani chor's?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Say your prayers, Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915091468718416085

Good share. It perfectly encapsulates that India always holds the cards and as a result is usually the side which can afford to push a hostile stance. Which of course also ties into the hindutva ideology being heavily promoted by the current govt.

 

[Local.Dada]

Good share. It perfectly encapsulates that India always holds the cards and as a result is usually the side which can afford to push a hostile stance. Which of course also ties into the hindutva ideology being heavily promoted by the current govt.

Good, then get in line and stop provoking. Not you per se as you have no say here anyways but speaking about Pak govt.

 

[HalBass9]

It’s hard to ignore the timing, this entire episode feels eerily aligned with the long standing ambition to control Pakistan’s share of water. For years, India has shown interest in leveraging water as a strategic asset, and now, amid a security lapse in one of the most sensitive regions during peak tourist season, the blame was assigned before the bodies were even counted.

No meaningful investigation. No pause. Just instant narrative.

Maybe the wars over water, predicted long ago, haven’t just begun. Maybe they’ve been simmering all along, and now the curtain is finally lifting.

 

[JaDed]

Do you even know what was Jammu and Kashmir demands from central government?

The people of Jammu and Kashmir have for decades demanded India withdraw from Indus Water Treaty.

Although India has not walked out of the treaty but suspended it, it can be used to gain more water. The all party meet today in J&K welcoming its suspension and a resolution in the assembly will put Pak in a twist. The very people it claims to be fighting for with terrorist attacks, welcoming diversion of waters.

Why do JK people want so much water, they are pretty water rich

 

[JaDed]

It’s important for the people of India to recognize that if the Modi government is resorting to such extreme measures, it signals a degree of desperation. The government appears unwilling to risk another Balakot like scenario, where the aftermath brought more embarrassment than strategic gain.

Unless the Modi administration receives absolute assurance that Pakistan will not retaliate, it’s unlikely they would risk escalation through direct military action. But the real question is, will Pakistan, under diplomatic pressure, absorb such an act and allow the regional balance of power to shift? Under the current circumstances, that seems highly improbable.

In this context, the Modi government, much like segments of the media, may have acted too hastily. And in hindsight, it could prove to be one of the costliest missteps in its tenure.

With the free world leaning conservative and whack away from treaties, India will get away with it, only Canada(who didn't condemn this incident) and China will question India.

Whatever can be said but Democrats keep other countries in line.

 

[HalBass9]

With the free world leaning conservative and whack away from treaties, India will get away with it, only Canada(who didn't condemn this incident) and China will question India.

Whatever can be said but Democrats keep other countries in line.

For now, the world may let India feel like it has scored a strategic win,but let’s be clear, water isn’t a political bargaining chip, it’s a basic human necessity.

Whether you're a conservative, a democrat, or a dictator, there’s one unshakable truth the international community understands, no one will allow two nuclear armed nations to spiral into war over water. Because once that line is crossed, no one wins.

Modi, once again, has overplayed his hand, mistaking short term theatrics for long term strategy. And the consequences won’t be his alone to bear.

 

[Local.Dada]

Modi, once again, has overplayed his hand, mistaking short term theatrics for long term strategy. And the consequences won’t be his alone to bear.

Here are some events and timelines for you to keep in mind.

Last time a Khalistani was killed in Canada- people said Modi overplayed his cards. Trudeau made a hue and cry. Where is Trudeau? Dumped by his own party.

Last time Pak captured Abhinandan, I was told it was a win for Pak. Now put this in context in some random match when some Pak player scores against India he becomes a potential super hero and here we have a govt that claims it embarrassed India. The PM of that win is in jail for stealing a watch, the foreign/ defense ministers whoever they were probably got belt treatment by their own army, the army chief who was the victor is getting trolled by some overseas Pakistani you can’t even make this s up.

All in good time mate . You will know the consequences of what Modi does. Also Indian system is never individual driven. There is a process and checks and balances in place for every action unlike Pakistan.

 

[HalBass9]

Here are some events and timelines for you to keep in mind.

Last time a Khalistani was killed in Canada- people said Modi overplayed his cards. Trudeau made a hue and cry. Where is Trudeau? Dumped by his own party.

Last time Pak captured Abhinandan, I was told it was a win for Pak. Now put this in context in some random match when some Pak player scores against India he becomes a potential super hero and here we have a govt that claims it embarrassed India. The PM of that win is in jail for stealing a watch, the foreign/ defense ministers whoever they were probably got belt treatment by their own army, the army chief who was the victor is getting trolled by some overseas Pakistani you can’t even make this s up.

All in good time mate . You will know the consequences of what Modi does. Also Indian system is never individual driven. There is a process and checks and balances in place for every action unlike Pakistan.

You sound like Indian.

 

[Major]

Looks like Pak cuisine for Major is Pasta and lasagna. Based on @Major posts he comes across as 3rd fail and someone who can’t go beyond chawal and roti and look at the gall to use a slur.

Looks like i offended a curry muncher.

 

[Local.Dada]

Looks like i offended a curry muncher.

“You” calling Indians a curry muncher is definitely offensive lol. Racism is extremely offensive obviously but paindugiri by a delusional paindu is even more offensive for safety of the world . it’s offensive but hilarious too .

 

[Major]

“You” calling Indians a curry muncher is definitely offensive lol. Racism is extremely offensive obviously but paindugiri by a delusional paindu is even more offensive for safety of the world . it’s offensive but hilarious too .

after the way indians have been saying they want pakistanis to die and all. I could care less how offended you or your curry smelling lot are.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Do you even know what was Jammu and Kashmir demands from central government?

The people of Jammu and Kashmir have for decades demanded India withdraw from Indus Water Treaty.

Although India has not walked out of the treaty but suspended it, it can be used to gain more water. The all party meet today in J&K welcoming its suspension and a resolution in the assembly will put Pak in a twist. The very people it claims to be fighting for with terrorist attacks, welcoming diversion of waters.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915279343191773490

You could’ve just shared the original post

 

[Devadwal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915279343191773490

You could’ve just shared the original post

Mod don't allowed the post from unauthorised x post. I have already posted but mode deleted.

Maybe you first need to understand the rules

 

[Local.Dada]

after the way indians have been saying they want pakistanis to die and all. I could care less how offended you or your curry smelling lot are.

You don’t live in Switzerland mate. You live in Pakistan which is way behind India in every benchmark including hygiene, health and toilets

 

[Major]

You don’t live in Switzerland mate. You live in Pakistan which is way behind India in every benchmark including hygiene, health and toilets

having lived in both countries, the quality of life in India is low. We dont have people pissing over fly overs or a toilet issue.

When i crossed over to Wagah, i made sure i spat on your land.

 

[HalBass9]

You don’t live in Switzerland mate. You live in Pakistan which is way behind India in every benchmark including hygiene, health and toilets

Oh no, not hygiene, that title’s already taken. It’s proudly reserved for India.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Mod don't allowed the post from unauthorised x post. I have already posted but mode deleted.

Maybe you first need to understand the rules

62K followers, hardly unauthorised.

 

[Local.Dada]

having lived in both countries, the quality of life in India is low. We dont have people pissing over fly overs or a toilet issue.

When i crossed over to Wagah, i made sure i spat on your land.

The dirty truth: 41 million Pakistanis without toilets

Failing to provide our children with the basic necessity for living is inhumane, and detrimental to their well-being.

www.dawn.com

There you go. That was from 10 years back and i would assume Pak economy has only tanked since 2015.

I don’t know where you lived in India. I think you must be on visitor visa and usually I heard for Pakistanis they get visa to only their locality or area that they are visiting and need to report to local police every day. It is unfortunate that a lot of poor Muslims live in ghetto. So maybe you visited your relative. It’s unfortunate. Luckily for him, if he doesn’t behave like you and works hard he will probably have a better lifestyle in India than you can ever imagine in Pakistan . I am sure you probably wouldn’t have permission to visit corptate parks or high figh areas with bars,shopping and restaurants or maybe your cousin couldn’t afford to show you around. Check now. A lot of people’s lifestyle improved in the last 10 years.

I would never spit on your land because first, in my culture earth is mother so I would never disrespect and I said many times I have a family connection with a holy temple in Pakistan so I would never spit. Shows you and me are not the same and have different sensibilities.

 

[Devadwal]

62K followers, hardly unauthorised.

Mod Deleted the post who has over millions followers .

 

[Major]

The dirty truth: 41 million Pakistanis without toilets

Failing to provide our children with the basic necessity for living is inhumane, and detrimental to their well-being.

www.dawn.com

There you go. That was from 10 years back and i would assume Pak economy has only tanked since 2015.

I don’t know where you lived in India. I think you must be on visitor visa and usually I heard for Pakistanis they get visa to only their locality or area that they are visiting and need to report to local police every day. It is unfortunate that a lot of poor Muslims live in ghetto. So maybe you visited your relative. It’s unfortunate. Luckily for him, if he doesn’t behave like you and works hard he will probably have a better lifestyle than you can ever imagine in India. I am sure you probably wouldn’t have permission to visit corptate parks or high areas with bars and restaurants or maybe your cousin couldn’t afford to show you around. Check now. A lot of people’s lifestyle improved in the last 10 years.

I would never spit on your land because first, in my culture earth is mother so I would never disrespect and I said many times I have a family connection with a holy temple in Pakistan so I would never spit. Shows you and me are not the same and have different sensibilities.

Check the date on the article would you. And than check the date of today.

I wont expose you, dont worry.

 

[Major]

The dirty truth: 41 million Pakistanis without toilets

Failing to provide our children with the basic necessity for living is inhumane, and detrimental to their well-being.

www.dawn.com

There you go. That was from 10 years back and i would assume Pak economy has only tanked since 2015.

I don’t know where you lived in India. I think you must be on visitor visa and usually I heard for Pakistanis they get visa to only their locality or area that they are visiting and need to report to local police every day. It is unfortunate that a lot of poor Muslims live in ghetto. So maybe you visited your relative. It’s unfortunate. Luckily for him, if he doesn’t behave like you and works hard he will probably have a better lifestyle in India than you can ever imagine in Pakistan . I am sure you probably wouldn’t have permission to visit corptate parks or high areas with bars and restaurants or maybe your cousin couldn’t afford to show you around. Check now. A lot of people’s lifestyle improved in the last 10 years.

I would never spit on your land because first, in my culture earth is mother so I would never disrespect and I said many times I have a family connection with a holy temple in Pakistan so I would never spit. Shows you and me are not the same and have different sensibilities.

I lived there over an year, and no, no one has to report to local police every day. Stop reading news from whatsapp academy.

Dont worry, i had access to alot of places, places where you couldnt afford to enter.

But yeh, Wagah-Attari best time when i stepped over back home after spatting.

 

[JaDed]

oh yes curry muncher. It is cause of that smell

Sure is if you say so.

 

[Local.Dada]

Oh no, not hygiene, that title’s already taken. It’s proudly reserved for India.

That’s because no one visits Pakistan. Its one those f around find out things lol. It’s the only country in the world that still has polio . I know science is not your thing not but check out where polio virus comes from.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indian news anchors screaming out how the children in Pakistan will die out of thirst. Sickening mentality.

We are condemning the loss of innocent lives both in Kashmir and Balochistan and these scumbags are enjoying potential deaths of innocent.

Such people dont care for these tourists killed either. It's a sick pretence to feeling hurt so they can live out their hatred .

1500 locals have been detained, being tortured and many will be murdered , this is indian hindutva state terrorism, on going for decades. They cheer this but are also frustrated knowing a smaller neighbour nation cannot be defeated ever by them.

 

[HalBass9]

That’s because no one visits Pakistan. Its one those f around find out things lol. It’s the only country in the world that still has polio . I know science is not your thing not but check out where polio virus comes from.

Before you rush to answer the rest of my points, let’s start simple, explain the two different types of polio vaccines.

Then, tell us why kids in the US, yes, the land of modern medicine, are still vaccinated against polio. Should be easy, right?

Since you seem so confident in your scientific authority on the matter, surely you can walk us through how the poliovirus works and how each vaccine type counters it. Go ahead, Dr. Dada, educate us.

And while you’re at it, maybe answer this too, why do some 'jahil desis' suddenly turn into Google certified experts the moment their pride takes a hit?

You’ve made it to America, congrats. Now try not to embarrass yourself pretending that arrogance is the same as expertise, no need to be that 'desi' anymore.

 

[HalBass9]

That’s because no one visits Pakistan. Its one those f around find out things lol. It’s the only country in the world that still has polio . I know science is not your thing not but check out where polio virus comes from.

You know what, let’s keep it simple, just explain why Indian children receive the polio vaccine at birth.

Don’t dodge the question this time. Stay engaged, you might actually learn something along the way, Dr. Dada.

Quoting from WhatsApp University doesn’t make you informed, it’s like shooting blanks and hoping to hit a bird. When the sack’s empty, all you’re left with is noise and no aim.

 

[Local.Dada]

You know what, let’s keep it simple, just explain why Indian children receive the polio vaccine at birth.

Don’t dodge the question this time. Stay engaged, you might actually learn something along the way, Dr. Dada.

Quoting from WhatsApp University doesn’t make you informed, it’s like shooting blanks and hoping to hit a bird. When the sack’s empty, all you’re left with is noise and no aim.

I never claimed India is super hygienic, if Indian kid receives vaccines means his parents are smart, sensible, the government (any government) is responsible enough to implement this to take care of its citizens. Even the remotest of villages have had this facility. That should be your takeaway. Hindu majority India has eradicated Polio. Thats a fact they won’t tell you in your madrassa.

If Pak still has cases means the government is incompetent or the people are jaahil and irresponsible. 1 out of 2 or both. I don’t need WhatsApp to tell me that. It’s common sense.

Also in what world do you live in? Pakistanis are made up of Punjabis, migrants from UP-Bihar and maybe Pathans etc. how are they extra special in hygiene when Indians have the same set of people more or less culturally. Man read a book and get out of that brainwashing madrassa (the specific types not all)

 

[HalBass9]

I never claimed India is super hygienic, if Indian kid receives vaccines means his parents are smart, sensible, the government (any government) is responsible enough to implement this to take care of its citizens. Even the remotest of villages have had this facility. That should be your takeaway. Hindu majority India has eradicated Polio. Thats a fact they won’t tell you in your madrassa.

If Pak still has cases means the government is incompetent or the people are jaahil and irresponsible. 1 out of 2 or both. I don’t need WhatsApp to tell me that. It’s common sense.

Also in what world do you live in? Pakistanis are made up of Punjabis, migrants from UP-Bihar and maybe Pathans etc. how are they extra special in hygiene when Indians have the same set of people more or less culturally. Man read a book and get out of that brainwashing madrassa (the specific types not all)

Dr. Dada, you claimed Pakistanis are unhygienic and blamed that for rising polio cases, and now you’ve pivoted to talking about incompetence?

Since you brought it up, and your claim is out there for all to see, how about you walk us through the pathophysiology of the poliovirus?

Let’s not start sidestepping now. Stick to your original argument, the one clearly certified by the prestigious Butt Hurt University of WhatsApp. We’re still discussing hygiene, remember? Stay engaged.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

It will take them years to divert.. the curry munchers are celebrating for no reason

Toh tu kya khata hai be daalkhor lol?

Ajeeb type ka bhikhari log hai bhai, aab gali bhi goro se bhikh mangke dena hai

 

[Local.Dada]

Dr. Dada, you claimed Pakistanis are unhygienic and blamed that for rising polio cases, and now you’ve pivoted to talking about incompetence?

Since you brought it up, and your claim is out there for all to see, how about you walk us through the pathophysiology of the poliovirus?

Let’s not start sidestepping now. Stick to your original argument, the one clearly certified by the prestigious Butt Hurt University of WhatsApp. We’re still discussing hygiene, remember? Stay engaged.

So what is your argument, polio virus does come from fecal matter and it was an epidemic in a lot of Asian and African countries . Western countries weren’t super hygienic either. The fact that above you think going to America is some kind of accomplishment or every white person is automatically hygienic speak volumes about the mindset you have.

Now yes a lot of diseases like polio, jaundice, typhoid etc have evolved due to lack of hygeine in Africa and Asia. Most have fought back against these diseases by being more hygienic and responsible: 1 country hasn’t which is Pakistan ? What’s so tough to understand here.

Now if Indians are living in an unhygienic environment and being cautious and Pakistanis are not, then who is more hygienic?

At least you can connect a couple of sentences. Good to know they also train you in English in your “school”

 

[HalBass9]

So what is your argument, polio virus does come from fecal matter and it was an epidemic in a lot of Asian and African countries . Western countries weren’t super hygienic either. The fact that above you think going to America is some kind of accomplishment or every white person is automatically hygienic speak volumes about the mindset you have.

Now yes a lot of diseases like polio, jaundice, typhoid etc have evolved due to lack of hygeine in Africa and Asia. Most have fought back against these diseases by being more hygienic and responsible: 1 country hasn’t which is Pakistan ? What’s so tough to understand here.

Now if Indians are living in an unhygienic environment and being cautious and Pakistanis are not, then who is more hygienic?

At least you can connect a couple of sentences. Good to know they also train you in English in your “school”

LOL.

Dr. Dada, who awarded you that MD, was it the same WhatsApp University where you get your political updates too?

A quick Google search won’t cut it here. If you’re going to talk about polio, you’ll need a proper understanding of its pathophysiology, transmission, and why children around the world not just in Pakistan are still vaccinated against it.

You claimed Pakistanis are less hygienic than Indians and tried to justify that with polio case numbers. So go ahead, Dr. Sahib, explain your claim with science, not forwarded messages.

Or better yet, stop digging. That hole’s already deep enough. This thread wasn’t about you, until you made it that way.

 

[deep82]

LOL.

Dr. Dada, who awarded you that MD, was it the same WhatsApp University where you get your political updates too?

A quick Google search won’t cut it here. If you’re going to talk about polio, you’ll need a proper understanding of its pathophysiology, transmission, and why children around the world not just in Pakistan are still vaccinated against it.

You claimed Pakistanis are less hygienic than Indians and tried to justify that with polio case numbers. So go ahead, Dr. Sahib, explain your claim with science, not forwarded messages.

Or better yet, stop digging. That hole’s already deep enough. This thread wasn’t about you, until you made it that way.

This is classic pak coping mechanuism. Many users do that here when they run out of argument. They take a line or two and then build their narrative around that and then just go in loop, conviently avoiding the original point.

Nobody is interested here in what polio is , its origin and various medical jargons. Simple point-- Why pakistan failed to eradicate polio while a neighbouring country India (with 1.4 Billion population) has won over it. If you have something useful to talk about, then go for it. But just for the sake of winning an argument, don't derail.

As of current data, Afghanistan and Pakistan are the only two countries where polio transmission remains endemic. Even Nigeria has come out from it. This is a cold blooded fact for a delusional Pakistan fanboy.

 

[HalBass9]

This is classic pak coping mechanuism. Many users do that here when they run out of argument. They take a line or two and then build their narrative around that and then just go in loop, conviently avoiding the original point.

Nobody is interested here in what polio is , its origin and various medical jargons. Simple point-- Why pakistan failed to eradicate polio while a neighbouring country India (with 1.4 Billion population) has won over it. If you have something useful to talk about, then go for it. But just for the sake of winning an argument, don't derail.

As of current data, Afghanistan and Pakistan are the only two countries where polio transmission remains endemic. Even Nigeria has come out from it. This is a cold blooded fact for a delusional Pakistan fanboy.

If you weren’t interested, you could’ve simply scrolled past,no one forced you to tag me.

Yes, polio remains endemic in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Now that we’ve acknowledged the fact, care to explain why? Or was that just another “gotcha” moment powered by Google and ego?

 

[deep82]

If you weren’t interested, you could’ve simply scrolled past,no one forced you to tag me.

Yes, polio remains endemic in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Now that we’ve acknowledged the fact, care to explain why? Or was that just another “gotcha” moment powered by Google and ego?

You were blabbering and derailing a simple point. If you don't have anything, I have no interest pursuing this point further.

And why should I explain for the failure of Pakistan to eradicate Polio. Its a serious question mark for Pakistan and its policy holder. They should introspect and take action.

 

[HalBass9]

The issue here isn’t whether Dr. @Local.Dada understands the pathophysiology of polio or the role poverty plays in both countries. The real problem is the condescending tone, claiming I wouldn’t understand the science, as if knowledge is exclusive to one flag. That mindset, sadly, is common,not entirely their fault, but a product of years of conditioning and inflated self perception.

There's this assumption that only Indians are educated on this forum. So, I challenged him, if India is so hygienic, then why does every child in India still require the polio vaccine?

And predictably, he couldn’t answer. Because if he actually understood the science, he wouldn’t have made that claim in the first place, it was just a knee jerk defense of bruised ego.

The takeaway? If you’re going to insult someone’s intelligence, at least come prepared. Otherwise, you're just another loud voice exposing your own ignorance.

 

[HalBass9]

You were blabbering and derailing a simple point. If you don't have anything, I have no interest pursuing this point further.

And why should I explain for the failure of Pakistan to eradicate Polio. Its a serious question mark for Pakistan and its policy holder. They should introspect and take action.

It’s a simple point, one that your friend @Local.Dada clearly couldn’t explain.

 

[Local.Dada]

It’s a simple point, one that your friend @Local.Dada clearly couldn’t explain.

Firstly I am not a virologist. Never claimed to be one. So it’s funny that you are hung on questions which I am not even sure you know if they belong here in the right context and just regurgitating the same thing.

The basic concept of hygeine is taking care of yourself and keeping oneself disease free. So I ask you again what is so ridiculous to conclude that Pakistan is way behind India in hygiene when it was not able address and issue that 98% of the world has managed to eliminate.

You seriously are dumb and if you are seriously a medical student than god bless the patients lol.

 

[Local.Dada]

There's this assumption that only Indians are educated on this forum. So, I challenged him, if India is so hygienic, then why does every child in India still require the polio vaccine?

.

dum dum, why do people wash their hands to protect against germs.

Why do people get vaccinated- to prevent against disease.

The fact that you don’t understand the basic concept of hygiene proves my point. Science, English, common sense- congratulations on the triple PhD of stupidity.

 

[HalBass9]

Firstly I am not a virologist. Never claimed to be one. So it’s funny that you are hung on questions which I am not even sure you know if they belong here in the right context and just regurgitating the same thing.

The basic concept of hygeine is taking care of yourself and keeping oneself disease free. So I ask you again what is so ridiculous to conclude that Pakistan is way behind India in hygiene when it was not able address and issue that 98% of the world has managed to eliminate.

You seriously are dumb and if you are seriously a medical student than god bless the patients lol.

Of course you're not a virologist, you’re miles from it. LOL.

If I handed you every answer, how would you ever retain the information? You know what they say: practice makes perfect.

Let’s not forget your comment:

"I know science is not your thing but check out where polio virus comes from."

And now here we are, me explaining science to you in a completely unrelated thread, all because you used it as an insult without knowing what you were talking about.


A good scientist stands by their words and can back them up. So go ahead—own it, explain it. Good luck, Dr. Dada.

 

[HalBass9]

dum dum, why do people wash their hands to protect against germs.

Why do people get vaccinated- to prevent against disease.

The fact that you don’t understand the basic concept of hygiene proves my point. Science, English, common sense- congratulations on the triple PhD of stupidity.

LOL.

Dr. Dada, if handwashing alone could prevent polio, then why does every child in India still need to be vaccinated?

Seriously, take the advice. You're turning yourself into the punchline. It's entertaining, no doubt, but even I’m starting to feel bad watching you try to insult others using science you clearly don’t understand.

Stick to what you know. And if that’s WhatsApp forwards, well, carry on, professor.

 

[Local.Dada]

"I know science is not your thing but check out where polio virus comes from."

ah! That’s what lit the fire and trigger point lol. Doesn’t matter lacking comprehension skills also equates to lack of scientific temperament. I stick by my words.

 

[Local.Dada]

LOL.

Dr. Dada, if handwashing alone could prevent polio, then why does every child in India still need to be vaccinated?

Seriously, take the advice. You're turning yourself into the punchline. It's entertaining, no doubt, but even I’m starting to feel bad watching you try to insult others using science you clearly don’t understand.

Stick to what you know. And if that’s WhatsApp forwards, well, carry on, professor.

Oh my goodness are you seriously this thick

I just meant preventing or taking steps to prevent something all equals to hygeine: be it something as elementary as washing hands or taking a life saving vaccine.

That’s fine, I am ok into turning into whatever, people with comprehension are reading both our posts. I will take the chance

 

[HalBass9]

ah! That’s what lit the fire and trigger point lol. Doesn’t matter lacking comprehension skills also equates to lack of scientific temperament. I stick by my words.

LOL, it’s alright, I think that’s enough schooling for you today. Let it sink in.

Whenever you’re ready for another lesson, feel free to raise your hand. I’ll be here, gladly assisting, as always.

 

[HalBass9]

Oh my goodness are you seriously this thick

I just meant preventing or taking steps to prevent something all equals to hygeine: be it something as elementary as washing hands or taking a life saving vaccine.

That’s fine, I am ok into turning into whatever, people with comprehension are reading both our posts. I will take the chance

Yup, that is what you meant. LOL

 

[deep82]

LOL.

Dr. Dada, if handwashing alone could prevent polio, then why does every child in India still need to be vaccinated?

Seriously, take the advice. You're turning yourself into the punchline. It's entertaining, no doubt, but even I’m starting to feel bad watching you try to insult others using science you clearly don’t understand.

Stick to what you know. And if that’s WhatsApp forwards, well, carry on, professor.

You have a serious comprehension issue understanding simple point...

"why do people wash their hands to protect against germs."
Thats an analogy, no where did he said handwashing cures polio....

I have serious doubts on your intelligence (if any) from hereon.

 

[HalBass9]

You have a serious comprehension issue understanding simple point...

"why do people wash their hands to protect against germs."
Thats an analogy, no where did he said handwashing cures polio....

I have serious doubts on your intelligence (if any) from hereon.

He’s already dug himself in pretty deep, no need to make the hole wider. Let him at least try to crawl out with a bit of dignity. Who knows, he might even learn something on the way up.

 

[deep82]

He’s already dug himself in pretty deep, no need to make the hole wider. Let him at least try to crawl out with a bit of dignity. Who knows, he might even learn something on the way up.

You are too much in your own bubble. LoL.
You got owned royally here. You still not getting it.

On a serious note, If you are indeed a medical professional-- I would suggest seeing a therapist and find a cure of getting your comprehsnion sorted. The patient need simple solutions to their problem. Not a medical thesis bombarded over them.

Good Luck.

 

[HalBass9]

You are too much in your own bubble. LoL.
You got owned royally here. You still not getting it.

On a serious note, If you are indeed a medical professional-- I would suggest seeing a therapist and find a cure of getting your comprehsnion sorted. The patient need simple solutions to their problem. Not a medical thesis bombarded over them.

Good Luck.

See, I might be insulted, if you actually knew what you were talking about. But since you don’t, it feels more like brushing off a rude comment from a random child still figuring out how the world works.

 

[Major]

I like how @Devadwal jumping up and down. Bhai its symbolic, india doesnt have any thing built to stop the water flow.... lol

 

[HalBass9]

Hey Dr. @deep82 and Dr. @Local.Dada , got a little homework assignment for you both.

Since poliovirus is transmitted via the fecal oral route, maybe you can explain how thousands of people take ritual dips in feces-contaminated rivers without contracting polio. We’ll wait.

And for extra credit, if a vaccinated Pakistani travels to India, are they more at risk of contracting polio than an unvaccinated one who simply washes their hands?

Take your time, doctors. The forum's watching.

Okay, I need to stop being petty, its enough for today. Good Luck!

 

[deep82]

Hey Dr. @deep82 and Dr. @Local.Dada , got a little homework assignment for you both.

Since poliovirus is transmitted via the fecal oral route, maybe you can explain how thousands of people take ritual dips in feces-contaminated rivers without contracting polio. We’ll wait.

And for extra credit, if a vaccinated Pakistani travels to India, are they more at risk of contracting polio than an unvaccinated one who simply washes their hands?

Take your time, doctors. The forum's watching.

Okay, I need to stop being petty, its enough for today. Good Luck!

You seriously need help dude. I am not interested in your delusional nonsense.

You first need simple Grade 2 comprehension lessons and once you able to figure out that well, we can talk like adults do.

 

[Local.Dada]

Hey Dr. @deep82 and Dr. @Local.Dada , got a little homework assignment for you both.

And for extra credit, if a vaccinated Pakistani travels to India, are they more at risk of contracting polio than an unvaccinated one who simply washes their hands?

Take your time, doctors. The forum's watching.

Okay, I need to stop being petty, its enough for today. Good Luck!

I will tell you after you cure polio in Pak and also heard cousin marriages causing a lot of rtrdation that cause loss of cognitive function and comprehension issues. Cure these first and I will listen to whatever you say. Deal

 

[rpant_gabba]

@rpant_gabba you have gone AWOL bro miss your insights aja vapis need to hear your theories about tasting fruits.

My response was up for a while. It got taken down. May be the mods can get you a copy.

Anyway, I laid out a clear plan to solve the Ind-Pak issue and it involved India taking inspiration from Jinnah an Pak establishment and mirroring Pak approach across a broad spectrum.

It certainly would have been a fun plan. too bad it wasn't allowed to stand.