Pakistan fast bowlers recent decline: Is Azhar Mahmood to blame?

[Mamoon]

Very poor team. Bowlings a real concern... medium pacers worse than wat india used to churn out.

Our bowling is certainly going the same way as India in the 90’s. Only silver-lining is a successful home bully spinner in Tests (Yasir, Kumble).

I am particularly disappointed with Shaheen, I had hoped for better. Didn’t and don’t have any expectations from others.

 

[Mueez]

I think he will be silent.

Won’t be surprised if nothing happens.

It is PCB...

 

[jonny darko]

Blaming Azhar is the easy way out. The bowlers have been woeful, and it's clear they are not sticking to their plans. Mentally weak.

Who said they are not sticking to the bowling-plans set in the dressing-room by Azhar & endorsed by Mickey? I see on the field pak bowlers are strictly adhering to their plans of bowling wicket-to-wicket 80+ mph rubbish just like the coach & captain demands.

Someone told them if it works for jadeja, it will work for imad wasim. if it worked for bumrah,then it will work for hassan ali & faheem.

When your upstairs is empty & you've got dung for brains, might as well appoint a monkey smoking-weed to drive the school bus.

 

[jonny darko]

Who said they are not sticking to the bowling-plans set in the dressing-room by Azhar mehmood & endorsed by Mickey?

I see on the field pak bowlers are strictly adhering to their plans of bowling wicket-to-wicket 80+ mph rubbish, just like their coach asked & their captain demands!

Going for 5 boundaries in an over? no worries! bowl the sixth ball exactly at same-pace, directed exactly at middle & leg! It was so funny to watch I think the England batsmen could bat against this bowling blindfolded & still smash them.

Because they know exactly what is coming & where it is aimed at. The one thing you could never fault the English at is PREPARATION.

And They are Prepared.

Someone told them if it works for jadeja, it will work for imad wasim!
If it worked for bumrah, then surely it will work for hassan ali & faheem!

When your upstairs is empty & you've got dung for brains, might as well appoint a monkey smoking-weed to drive the school bus.

 

[StreetSmart]

You would think Azhar Mahmood was fitting braces on the bowlers arms to make them bowl rubbish the way some fans go on.

Exactly that's my point, at international level you need adjustment not coaching

 

[nap229]

On these pitches we need wahab riaz and i would even take m.sami

 

[topspin]

Our bowling is certainly going the same way as India in the 90’s. Only silver-lining is a successful home bully spinner in Tests (Yasir, Kumble).

I am particularly disappointed with Shaheen, I had hoped for better. Didn’t and don’t have any expectations from others.

Likewise, I had high hopes for him to succeed.

If he can't get back to bowling 140+ he needs to be dropped.

If these conditions are expected in the WC and Shaheen is showing no signs of ceasing the trundling, then a pace attack of Amir, Haris Rauf and Hasnain might be the way to go. The latter two can bowl 90mph + and complement each other, where Rauf can exploit his yorkers while Hasnain can bang it into the pitch. Amir is useful for providing control and stability with his economical bowling.

 

[nap229]

Even rauf and hasnain will be mediocre after being exposed.

I have no faith in these Bowlers anymore. We need to.invest.in grassroots

 

[Markhor]

I said this many times in the last few months - I've not seen a Pakistan attack as incapable as this one of taking wickets with the new ball. Every team is getting off to flyers against us.

Obviously somebody has to be held accountable and Azhar Mahmood has presided over an alarming decline in our bowling since CT17 - people can see the stats for themselves.

Faheem Ashraf and Yasir Shah's white ball careers must end. Imad Wasim is simply not a wicket-taker in ODIs where being economical isn't enough.

Hasan Ali to me seems to be dining out on his excellent 2017. Since then, his form has gone downhill and bowls so many loose balls.

People begged for the fast-tracking of Shaheen Afridi despite scarcely any domestic experience and we see the results. He's still learning his craft and facing the #1 ODI team in their backyard on these dead pitches is no place to do it. Junaid Khan is a shadow of what he was in 2012-13.

So who the hell is meant to be our go-to bowler ? Everyone has some issue or another. Let's not pretend Shadab Khan and Mohammed Amir are the saviours as they too have been part of many toothless bowling displays since the start of 2018.

 

[wasimjunior]

Its as simple as this : Azhar Mahmood has to go.

Look at the way the batters have improved slowly and managed to overcome their weaknesses, compared to bowlers.

Constantly the same mistakes, constantly a lack of plans....He seems to do nothing but be a "buddy" and a "yaar" to the players who gets "credit" when things do go well.

Just a waste of PCB money- better to have no coach than this joke

 

[Usman Chadda]

Who said they are not sticking to the bowling-plans set in the dressing-room by Azhar & endorsed by Mickey? I see on the field pak bowlers are strictly adhering to their plans of bowling wicket-to-wicket 80+ mph rubbish just like the coach & captain demands.

Someone told them if it works for jadeja, it will work for imad wasim. if it worked for bumrah,then it will work for hassan ali & faheem.

When your upstairs is empty & you've got dung for brains, might as well appoint a monkey smoking-weed to drive the school bus.

I'm sure Azhar Mahmood is not dumb enough to tell our pace bowlers to bowl length deliveries down leg to Bairstow, specially when the boundary is short on one side. If he did, the guy needs to be fired with immediate effect.

However, international level cricketers have to use their brains to outsmart the opposition. When Faheem Ashraf gets thumped for a six first ball by Jason Roy thanks to length delivery just outside off-stump, and proceeds to bowl the next ball in the exact same spot, you know Azhar can only do so much.

 

[CricFan2012]

It always saddens me when fans blindly look at a single aspect to a bigger picture.

England has the perfect batting that is needed for this era, its like the Aussie batting in the 90s/2000s, ATG at the time.

English pitches are absolute roads.

We also dropped like 4 catches? One was an easy early on off Roy.

 

[jonny darko]

Shinwari is not in the squad?

Pakistan are going to rue not having Usman Khan Shinwari for the world cup, mark my words.

 

[Mehndi155]

I remember where amir hasan
And even shaheen used to click 140s but dont know what has happened to him whichever bowler comes azhar becomes slow

 

[topspin]

Bowlers have also lost pace under Azhar Mahmood - for e.g. Amir and Shaheen

 

[Mehndi155]

Bowlers have also lost pace under Azhar Mahmood - for e.g. Amir and Shaheen

I remember hasan clicking 148 vs australia in 2017 series

 

[Darkrai]

On these pitches we need wahab riaz and i would even take m.sami

Last time Wahab played against England on these pitches he gave away 110 runs taking 0 wickets in a single match.

 

[topspin]

I remember hasan clicking 148 vs australia in 2017 series

But where is that pace now? - when we need it the most on these lifeless wickets.

 

[Boi]

There has to be some accountability. Azhar must go.

 

[samiakh]

Yes to a large extent. Especially becuase you should have bowling plans for each batsmen. How can you not know that Rashid only has one shot the slice outside off. How can you bowl left arm over and angle the ball away from him?!!! That sort of preparation is coaches responsibility.

 

[shaz72]

It always saddens me when fans blindly look at a single aspect to a bigger picture.

England has the perfect batting that is needed for this era, its like the Aussie batting in the 90s/2000s, ATG at the time.

English pitches are absolute roads.

We also dropped like 4 catches? One was an easy early on off Roy.

Just wait and watch how this ATG batting unit will behave when facing better bowling sides.
You will see the difference our rubbish bowler made them look ATG batting unit

 

[ethan hunt]

Please get rid of him .
Hasnain has started bowling medium fast .
No idea what he is doing but it just isn't working.

 

[sam_ahm]

I've been watching the match today and I must say Pakistan's bowling and fielding leaves a lot to be desired.

Now m beginning to think that perhaps these r not 370 par score wickets, obviously still very good for batting, may be 325 par... But Pakistan are making it look worse. Better bowling attacks will not let England score this freely.

Scotland scored 370 last year and ended up beating England.

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[Captain]

It hurts when u aleady know that batsman will kill them if they ball onnthe pads and pakistani bowlers are hell bent upon bowling on the pads... I think azhar mehmood deserves a pay rise

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Maybe Azhar is telling them to bowl leg stump gimmes and wide deliveries perfect for cover drives?

 

[MenInG]

Interesting to see how Australians are preparing for the death overs

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[IAJ]

I just don’t get why bowlers who have played so much cricket can’t even put two deliveries at same spot. They are just not finding the right line and length.

The way Woakes bowled with the new ball, it looked so planned, so easy on eyes, pitched it up and moved away from Fakhar. Why can’t our bowlers do this? Seriously, these are the basics for professional bowlers.

 

[MenInG]

Interesting to see how Australians are preparing for the death overs

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Some mind games also being played I guess with such videos

 

[Kroll]

It hit me that with our hopes no relying upon Wahab and Amir, these two are from 2010. Hasan and Shaheen are relatively new additions including the other bowlers so there's nothing in between that time.

 

[Kroll]

Some mind games also being played I guess with such videos

Yep, batsmen will be thinking how to play those wide yorkers well I hope ours are!

 

[adil79]

So, what happened today? Why no new wickets with new ball?

 

[Titan24]

Mohammad Akram was miles ahead of him and you can clearly see a difference even in Hassan Ali under him in PSL.

I will stretch my neck out and say that I havent seen a bowling coach in international cricket who had such an impact on any bowling unti. Pak was one of the best bowling unit not too long ago.

 

[muqarrab]

Twice in a row our lengths were off, in general for the last year we have bowled too short. Surely, Azahar mehmood must have something to do with it.

 

[Greenstorm]

Mohammad Akram was miles ahead of him and you can clearly see a difference even in Hassan Ali under him in PSL.

I will stretch my neck out and say that I havent seen a bowling coach in international cricket who had such an impact on any bowling unti. Pak was one of the best bowling unit not too long ago.

Is he a qualified coach ?

 

[Titan24]

Even bowling attack of Ehsan Adil, Sohail Khan, Rahat Ali, Irfan, Wahab looked in WC 2015 looked much better than this.

 

[PakWarrior]

Azhar Mehmood needs to go.

 

[Titan24]

Is he a qualified coach ?

Mohammad Akram I am pretty sure is. Azhar I cant say for sure.

 

[Titan24]

Twice in a row our lengths were off, in general for the last year we have bowled too short. Surely, Azahar mehmood must have something to do with it.

If it would have been just one bowler struggling than we could have blamed that individual but every bowler who has played for Pak in last couple of years has deteriorated. Not saying that bowlers arent doing anything wrong but surely Azhar isnt doing anything right as well.

 

[adil79]

Mohammad Akram was miles ahead of him and you can clearly see a difference even in Hassan Ali under him in PSL.

I will stretch my neck out and say that I havent seen a bowling coach in international cricket who had such an impact on any bowling unti. Pak was one of the best bowling unit not too long ago.

When was the last time our fast bowlers picked up wickets with new ball? Spinners picked up against England. In today's match, there was no plan from bowling coach. No tips. where to bowl. It's like they are enjoying weather of england

 

[Amoeba]

Azhar needs to go. Clueless. Pakistani bowlers have been bowling too short for 2 decades.
Who tells Hasan to bowl short needs to go too.

 

[UP]

Mehmood needs a few lectures from the Indian bowling coach.

 

[adil79]

Why cummins can pick wicket? Why Starc is consistent? Why Boult? Why other teams are consistent with new ball? Why we havent picked wickets with new ball in last matches? wickets at the end dont count as damage has already been done

 

[adil79]

Mehmood needs a few lectures from the Indian bowling coach.

Vijay Shankar bowled with swing. If you can simply zoom in to his seam, its clear what needs to be done. But that will take effort. And i am not sure our coaches can do that

 

[hashimafzal]

Heard something Shoaib Akhtar had to say about Azhar and coaching and general and I found myself generally agreeing with it.

He made the point that Azhar is not an idiot that he is the one telling these guys to bowl short. He has the experience of course he knows where they should pitch the ball.

Even once the bowlers go into the middle if you get hit for 3 boundaries on short balls you would guess they wouldn't bowl a 4th would you? You think the captain won't tell you to pitch it up?

The biggest thing in these situations is how the game effects you and how you handle the pressure. Watch these guys in the nets you'd think they are the best bowlers to play the game.

But once you go out there, its a completely different thing and you are just thinking of so much. A friend of mine who has played a lot of cricket told me even he agreed with those comments, because some days you just don't have it, and in the end it comes down to consistency and mental state.

 

[Sherlock]

Is there another side that has their fast bowlers consistently being tonked for 70/80 runs per their alloted overs?

Only Amir has been consistent throughout. The rest have been abysmal.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Mohammad Akram I am pretty sure is. Azhar I cant say for sure.

Mohammad Akram's tenure as a bowling coach for Pakistan was a disaster as well. Waqar was the coach in the WC 15, the only time apart from CT17 when our pacers were threatening enough and picking up wickets. Wahab has worked on his variations and control in the nets in his off time since his ouster from the international team since he was dropped in 2017 or 2018. It's not Mohammad AKram teaching him in the nets.

It's players' responsibility as well to work hard enough on their shortcomings. No coach can work on Hasan Ali's lack of control these days unless he puts in hard yards in the nets to eliminate them. A coach can only provide a direction and some tips at this level. I doubt any of our players take responsibility to get better and work harder themselves and challenge themselves to go better.
In other countries, players even go as far to hire personal coaches as well. Our players perform in 1 series and start thinking they have conquered the world and that's where complacency creeps in.

 

[Sherlock]

Also may I add, Azhar Mahmood can surely see the issues with the lengths the bowlers are bowling and the lack of a consistent line and length, then why can't we fix this? Why does it take the commentators to point out the issues? Why can fans watching at home identify the shortcomings?

I'm amazed he's still in the job, tbh. And if it's not entirely his fault and the bowlers aren't listening, then make that known and drop those bowlers.

 

[Titan24]

When was the last time our fast bowlers picked up wickets with new ball? Spinners picked up against England. In today's match, there was no plan from bowling coach. No tips. where to bowl. It's like they are enjoying weather of england

True. Its surprising that some people still say what can a coach do.

 

[Titan24]

Mohammad Akram's tenure as a bowling coach for Pakistan was a disaster as well. Waqar was the coach in the WC 15, the only time apart from CT17 when our pacers were threatening enough and picking up wickets. Wahab has worked on his variations and control in the nets in his off time since his ouster from the international team since he was dropped in 2017 or 2018. It's not Mohammad AKram teaching him in the nets.

It's players' responsibility as well to work hard enough on their shortcomings. No coach can work on Hasan Ali's lack of control these days unless he puts in hard yards in the nets to eliminate them. A coach can only provide a direction and some tips at this level. I doubt any of our players take responsibility to get better and work harder themselves and challenge themselves to go better.
In other countries, players even go as far to hire personal coaches as well. Our players perform in 1 series and start thinking they have conquered the world and that's where complacency creeps in.

Mohammad Akram’s tenure didnt end well but his overall tenure was pretty good, you can turn out the stats. We won due to our bowling in India in 2012 and won first ever ODI series in SA as well.

 

[Mueez]

He is the most useless Pakistani bowling coach I’ve ever witnessed.

Needs to go.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Mohammad Akram’s tenure didnt end well but his overall tenure was pretty good, you can turn out the stats. We won due to our bowling in India in 2012 and won first ever ODI series in SA as well.

That India series win coincided with Junaid being in the best form of his career coupled with Mohammad Irfan reintroduction to the side. He couldn't help a rapidly declining Umar Gul who had given up bowling yorkers altogether and his seam and reverse swing as well. Neither did Wahab Riaz improve under him. Other guys that were brought in were Ehsan Adil, Rahat Ali, Anwar Ali, Bilawal Bhatti, Mohammad Talha and Aizaz Cheema. Neither of which had a good record under him. Rahat began getting better under Waqar and is the only one who seemed to make sort of a career in recent times from that crop.
Junaid was helped by his stint at Lancashire where he played for 2 seasons I think.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

No, the bowling should do.

It’s like locking the stable once the horses have bolted

 

[Sherlock]

It’s like locking the stable once the horses have bolted

Not really. Not the first time he's been criticised for our fast bowling unit. It's easy to be critical of Grant Flower for our batting woes but not so Azhar?!

I have no doubt his neck is on the chopping block, as are all the coaches.

 

[blackanhyellow]

The lengths bowled have been shocking.

When other bowlers were bowling well, Amir was nowhere to be seen, when Amir is bowling well others go missing.

 

[cririri]

Everyone is bowling short

 

[blackanhyellow]

Bring back Julien Fountain.

He is the only coach in recent memory that actually improved an aspect of Pakistan's game.

 

[Savak]

Bring back Julien Fountain.

He is the only coach in recent memory that actually improved an aspect of Pakistan's game.

Our fielding had improved drastically under Steve Rixon who then quit the PCB because he was unhappy at the Internet connection at the NCA and the fact the PCB never used to pay him on time. He has been the best fielding coach for Pakistan in our history

 

[unemployedgm]

In the NFL, Head Coaches often script the first drive. Throughout the week in practice the Head Coach and the players rehearse the exact plays they will use on the first drive of the game. In Cricket, we talk about lines and lengths but no bowling coach ever guides bowlers on constructing an over or a coherent bowling philosophy. What is our philosophy as a Test, ODI, or T20 Bowling Unit? There is none. We need to find a way to create an overarching bowling philosophy and guide bowlers on how to construct overs. Skills are an issue, but an even bigger issue is approach.

 

[PakistanMeriJaan]

I think it’s important that the bowlers are also to blame. They should have their own plans to certain players and knowledge of their variations, skills and also limitations and weaknesses.

For instance Hassan Ali is just in terrible form plain and simple everyone can see it, his run-up, his body language was just painful to see. Needs to be benched simple as. Shadab showed some backbone by coming back from his first over hammering.

Bottom line is bowlers need to execute any plans prior made and know when its not happening and switching to different tactics. I’m a big Hassan Ali fan but I feel his bowling was of the main reasons what cost us the match

 

[Titan24]

That India series win coincided with Junaid being in the best form of his career coupled with Mohammad Irfan reintroduction to the side. He couldn't help a rapidly declining Umar Gul who had given up bowling yorkers altogether and his seam and reverse swing as well. Neither did Wahab Riaz improve under him. Other guys that were brought in were Ehsan Adil, Rahat Ali, Anwar Ali, Bilawal Bhatti, Mohammad Talha and Aizaz Cheema. Neither of which had a good record under him. Rahat began getting better under Waqar and is the only one who seemed to make sort of a career in recent times from that crop.
Junaid was helped by his stint at Lancashire where he played for 2 seasons I think.

I am not suggesting Mohammad Akram should be the bowling coach. My point is anybody would be an upgrade over Azhar.

 

[Snowflake]

Never has our fast bowling looked so toothless!

You cannot have all your bowlers lose form and not hold the coach accountable. Hassan Ali has been bowling short and has been getting spanked since over a year and nothing has been done about it.

Our bowlers have forgotten how to bowl yorkers. Amir has lost pace and swing. None of the bowlers are consistent with their lines or lengths.


Sorry but I don't know what Azhar is adding to this team.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Our fielding had improved drastically under Steve Rixon who then quit the PCB because he was unhappy at the Internet connection at the NCA and the fact the PCB never used to pay him on time. He has been the best fielding coach for Pakistan in our history

Rixon had much better ingredients to work with babar, fakhar, shadab, etc...

Some young relatively fit players.

Julien Fountain had a lot worse but still fielding showed marked improvement.

I think if fountain had this current bunch, results would be even better.

 

[Boi]

Called it before the tournament started. Should’ve kicked Azhar out and got Waqar in on an emergency basis - the best bowling coach we’ve had.

 

[Snowflake]

Called it before the tournament started. Should’ve kicked Azhar out and got Waqar in on an emergency basis - the best bowling coach we’ve had.

Waqar will accept nothing less than the position of a head coach. He's made that clear to the pcb

 

[shah_1]

This trundler has no clue about fast bowling. We should hire Shoaib Akthar as bowling coach or Shane Bond

 

[Usman Chadda]

Typical Pakistan fans. Replacing the bowling coach won't make Hasan or Shaheen bowl better lines. These two are responsible for their own downfall.

 

[Kianig89]

Azhar Mehmood shoulde show n the door if not send him on forced leave and hire a bowling consultant even someone from county circuit

 

[Snowflake]

Typical Pakistan fans. Replacing the bowling coach won't make Hasan or Shaheen bowl better lines. These two are responsible for their own downfall.

Doesn't matter if it would help or not. It's Azhar's job to ensure the fact bowlers are performing to the best of their abilities. If they aren't, he'll be held accountable.

Going by your logic, a coach will always be above criticism as it's the players who have to execute on field.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Doesn't matter if it would help or not. It's Azhar's job to ensure the fact bowlers are performing to the best of their abilities. If they aren't, he'll be held accountable.

Going by your logic, a coach will always be above criticism as it's the players who have to execute on field.

You can play all the musical chairs with the coaches at international level, but it will never make a difference. The whole coaching staff should be thrown out after this WC, but that won't make this team world beaters all of a sudden.

The likes of Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan and Shaheen Afridi are just not working hard to better themselves as players. It's obvious they have regressed, and they have only themselves to blame for that. This is international cricket. If these bowlers need someone to hold their hand to stop them from bowling short and wide on helpful wickets, they are playing the wrong sport.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Not really. Not the first time he's been criticised for our fast bowling unit. It's easy to be critical of Grant Flower for our batting woes but not so Azhar?!

I have no doubt his neck is on the chopping block, as are all the coaches.

Pakistan have no assertive bowling pattern
There’s no plan to their bowling, there’s no logic or essential homework
They don’t seem to be bowling to batsmen’s weaknesses or bowling in a pack
It’s a bit like the 2003 World Cup where we have bowlers who are past their prime trying to get a wicket off every ball in basic anachronism style

The last World Cup we had four pacers on bowler friendly pitches who bowled to a plan and got wickets early and during the middle overs

Under misbah we had economical seamers and spinners

Is shadab just another yasir shah in Odis, it is an egregious abomination how far the number one bowler in the world has fallen
And is Hassan Ali just another Wasim akram in 2003

We only have two pacers performing out of 5 bowlers and the problem is the reserve options aren’t containing either
One has tennis elbow and the other had one ball to his repertoire

Where are the options , where are the tactics, why are we conceding big totals on ebery single matxh

 

[Boi]

You can play all the musical chairs with the coaches at international level, but it will never make a difference. The whole coaching staff should be thrown out after this WC, but that won't make this team world beaters all of a sudden.

The likes of Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan and Shaheen Afridi are just not working hard to better themselves as players. It's obvious they have regressed, and they have only themselves to blame for that. This is international cricket. If these bowlers need someone to hold their hand to stop them from bowling short and wide on helpful wickets, they are playing the wrong sport.

Shaheen is 19 and hasn’t even played a full domestic season yet. You’re being too harsh on him.

Agree on Hasan and Shadab. They should be a lot more consistent with their plans and lines and lengths by now but they continue to bowl without any sense. Part of the blame has to go to the coaching staff, they have to be held accountable for something and in this case the players who have regressed should be kicked out along with the coaches who have supervised their regression.

 

[GreenKnightRises]

This trundler has no clue about fast bowling. We should hire Shoaib Akthar as bowling coach or Shane Bond

Sure. !!

Hassan, Shaheen and Shadab had a good start to their careers, but gradually became poor bowlers instead of becoming better ones after these many match experience.

Definitely there is some flaw in the coaching staff. Need to sort out this soon

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I am not suggesting Mohammad Akram should be the bowling coach. My point is anybody would be an upgrade over Azhar.

Azhar himself is also a level 3 accredited coach. After ct17, everyone was praising him.
Coaching and selection are pretty thankless jobs. If your team is doing well, the players get all the credit and when things aren't, coaches get all the blame.
Players should be held accountable as well for their desire and energy to get improve themselves.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

I think Amir last year when he was given a break tweeted something like this, that he has learned more in 2 months with his current club coach than in 2 years with the national team. I think he was right back then as Amir's bowling has improved from then onwards, while others have regressed badly.

 

[Saj]

Called it before the tournament started. Should’ve kicked Azhar out and got Waqar in on an emergency basis - the best bowling coach we’ve had.

I asked Waqar the other day if he would like to coach Pakistan again, either as head coach or bowling coach - his reply, I'm done with all that.

 

[Sherlock]

Pakistan have no assertive bowling pattern
There’s no plan to their bowling, there’s no logic or essential homework
They don’t seem to be bowling to batsmen’s weaknesses or bowling in a pack
It’s a bit like the 2003 World Cup where we have bowlers who are past their prime trying to get a wicket off every ball in basic anachronism style

The last World Cup we had four pacers on bowler friendly pitches who bowled to a plan and got wickets early and during the middle overs

Under misbah we had economical seamers and spinners

Is shadab just another yasir shah in Odis, it is an egregious abomination how far the number one bowler in the world has fallen
And is Hassan Ali just another Wasim akram in 2003

We only have two pacers performing out of 5 bowlers and the problem is the reserve options aren’t containing either
One has tennis elbow and the other had one ball to his repertoire

Where are the options , where are the tactics, why are we conceding big totals on ebery single matxh

You can't compare what we had under Misbah to what we have now. Our bowlers actually had a plan and tactics they adhered to. These lot are brainless and the coaching staff need sacking because any other side that had so many poor fast bowlers with poor bowling figures, and consistently poor they'd be gotten rid of.

But us, we wait we don't want to pay out on contracts. It's pathetic and shameful, tbh.

Since Azhar has come in we've disintegrated as a bowling unit. We can't seam or swing the ball, we can't bowl yorkers, we don't bowl to plans. Just looks at Hasan Ali - the man is brainless. He'll bowl 2, 3 good deliveries then bowl utter tripe for the remaining over.

Wahab, less said the better.

Shaheen Shah started well but has fallen dramatically.

Hasnain is too young to judge yet but he hasn't been the spark that we might have thought he'd be.

Shinwari has got the same illness as the rest and is brainless too.

Junaid has been poor for some time, and yet people wanted him playing. No pace and swing and he's cannon fodder.

My main problem with Azhar is what exactly does he plan, what does he train the bowlers to do and why hasn't he fixed the bowlers wrist position and release.

The man has been nothing but a huge disappointment but the bowlers have been a disgrace too.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

You can't compare what we had under Misbah to what we have now. Our bowlers actually had a plan and tactics they adhered to. These lot are brainless and the coaching staff need sacking because any other side that had so many poor fast bowlers with poor bowling figures, and consistently poor they'd be gotten rid of.

But us, we wait we don't want to pay out on contracts. It's pathetic and shameful, tbh.

Since Azhar has come in we've disintegrated as a bowling unit. We can't seam or swing the ball, we can't bowl yorkers, we don't bowl to plans. Just looks at Hasan Ali - the man is brainless. He'll bowl 2, 3 good deliveries then bowl utter tripe for the remaining over.

Wahab, less said the better.

Shaheen Shah started well but has fallen dramatically.

Hasnain is too young to judge yet but he hasn't been the spark that we might have thought he'd be.

Shinwari has got the same illness as the rest and is brainless too.

Junaid has been poor for some time, and yet people wanted him playing. No pace and swing and he's cannon fodder.

My main problem with Azhar is what exactly does he plan, what does he train the bowlers to do and why hasn't he fixed the bowlers wrist position and release.

The man has been nothing but a huge disappointment but the bowlers have been a disgrace too.

What you’re telling me is our bowlers are not better than adil, rahat, sohail or irfan in 2015

In 2011 gul and razzaq were preferred to shoaib akhtar
I don’t think we could ever drop an akhtar now

Azhar mahmood has no bowling expertise or stints to accentuate
No great international career to behold and exalt
His methods are based on his county career at the oval in a byegone era

 

[Khan12]

Shaheen is 19 and hasn’t even played a full domestic season yet. You’re being too harsh on him.

Agree on Hasan and Shadab. They should be a lot more consistent with their plans and lines and lengths by now but they continue to bowl without any sense. Part of the blame has to go to the coaching staff, they have to be held accountable for something and in this case the players who have regressed should be kicked out along with the coaches who have supervised their regression.

He drags shaheen into everything, he's forgetting he's been our best bowler in series against south africa and NZ.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Mohammed Amir is a better bowler than Azhar Mahmood, I think Amir should captain the side and be the bowling coach as well, in that way he can find a decent opening bowler partner.

 

[Red Devil]

Typical Pakistan fans. Replacing the bowling coach won't make Hasan or Shaheen bowl better lines. These two are responsible for their own downfall.

The other day commentators pointed out why Amir was struggling to get any inswing as he wasn't close enough to the stumps when delivering the ball. Any bowling coach worth his salt would have noticed and rectified that issue a long time ago.