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Pakistan last 18 matches in all formats

Saj

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So in the last 18 matches across all formats, Pakistan have gone:

Lost
Lost
Lost
Lost
Lost
Lost
Won
Lost
Lost
Lost
Won
Lost
Lost
Won
Lost
Lost
Lost
Lost

Some pretty poor numbers there.

What's going wrong?

Are we just a T20I team nowadays?
 
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Pakistan winning a game against a higher ranked team is surprising now. A defeat is business as usual.
 
I don't know why people think we have a chance in the WC. It will be a minor miracle if we reach the semis.
 
Not even that great in T20I. Lost to SA and England- second string England.
 
Our fans’ heads were in the clouds after the Champions Trophy and the Sri Lanka bashing in 2017.

A reality check was always on the cards, but the majority paid no heed to the warnings.
 
It is a high time for Imran Khan to pay attention towards the national team. We need proper batting and bowling coach with honest chief selector. Imad should lead the team. If we don't change the management including coaching staff we are gonna loose all the talent we have in pool. Guys like Hasnain, Shaheen, Shadab, Imad, Babar Faheem, Fakhar and Harris always have capabilities to do good. The execution part is missing which should be taken care of by professional coaching staff.
 
Losing becomes a habit and this team has got into the habit of losing against anyone half-decent.

Need a few more matches versus Zimbabwe to boost the numbers.
 
Pakistan is not producing international caliber cricketers specifically as it pertains to Batting, Spin Bowling, Wicketkeepers, and All Rounders. The international caliber cricketers we are producing are not being developed correctly.

Pakistan at this moment in time is a bad cricket team with only 2 World Class Performers in the Lineup(Babar Azam and Hasan Ali).
 
As I have always said these guys are being mismanaged big time, they are not at all as bad as last two years under this team management have made them look like.

Other than Babar Azam every single player under this management has deteriorated from where he started.

Peter Moores vs Travis Baylis, that is how much of a difference a head coach can make with most of the same players.
 
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Our bowling is more mediocre than our batting nowadays.
We were competitive because of our good bowling but now that is not the case

Our bowling is more responsible than our batting in most defeats.
 
Our bowling is more mediocre than our batting nowadays.
We were competitive because of our good bowling but now that is not the case

Our bowling is more responsible than our batting in most defeats.

Agree with this. We are missing a consistent and effective opening bowler (though Shaheen can develope) into this. More importantly we are missing an Ajmal style spinner who can dominate the opposition. With the addition of a good spinner alone, we can become a very good side.
 
This is a bloody disgrace, I want to refund my tickets now @Saj
 
Our fans’ heads were in the clouds after the Champions Trophy and the Sri Lanka bashing in 2017.

A reality check was always on the cards, but the majority paid no heed to the warnings.

We won an international tournament, did you want us to sit there and mope like you always do or actually enjoy the moment? Majority of fans don't care how good we are as a team, as long as we can win one off or important matches we are happy. Brighten up.
 
As I have always said these guys are being mismanaged big time, they are not at all as bad as last two years under this team management have made them look like.

Other than Babar Azam every single player under this management has deteriorated from where he started.

Peter Moores vs Travis Baylis, that is how much of a difference a head coach can make with most of the same players.

Good point.
 
We won an international tournament, did you want us to sit there and mope like you always do or actually enjoy the moment? Majority of fans don't care how good we are as a team, as long as we can win one off or important matches we are happy. Brighten up.

Their is a difference between enjoying a tournament win and mistaking it for dominance.

Just because we won consecutive games against South Africa, England and India comprehensively, our fans thought that we have become invincible.

After the Champions Trophy, some of our actually thought that we will beat any team anywhere and are the best ODI team in the world.

We had our first taste of a reality check in Jan 2018 when we were blanked 5-0 in New Zealand, but people again ignored the signs and brushed it aside as a one-off and made excuses like we weren’t prepared etc., but then the Asia Cup happened and all our delusions were laid to rest.

Prior to the Asia Cup, we were told that the generation of Hasan, Shadab, Fakhar, Babar etc. will have a mental edge over India because of the Champions Trophy, but the gave us a proper hiding without Kohli. In addition, we had an embarrassing capitulation against Bangladesh.

Unfortunately, some of our fans still don’t learn. They mistake being realistic for not supporting the team.

Just because I think we are rubbish doesn’t mean I don’t support the team. I think Pakistan have no chance of winning the World Cup, but that doesn’t mean I don’t want them to.

What will happen if we do win? People will troll me for a few weeks and then they will move on, but I was a Pakistani before I joined this forum and I will be a Pakistani after I leave.

Do you think it gives me joy to be proved right again and again over the mediocrity of our team? No it doesn’t. I don’t get a medal for it and it doesn’t make my life any better. In fact, it just makes me sad to see where Pakistan cricket is today.

I won’t use the F word, but the Champions Trophy was a very, very rare occurrence. How often has the lowest ranked side won a tournament?

It was a wonderful story, but it won’t happen again for a very, very long time. It was like Leicester winning the Premier League or Greece winning Euro 2004 or an amateur winning a PGA major.

We cannot put stock in our Champions Trophy success and seek inspiration from it because that would be a mistake.

We need to develop a systematic method of achieving success and the first step is an honest evaluation of where we stand today.

Whether you like it or not, Pakistan is the poster boy of mediocrity and we get smashed by the superior teams 8/10 times, and our recent record proves it. In fact, our long-term record proves that as well. Since mid 2000s, we have lost over 80% of our ODI series against the high ranked teams.

I am sorry for the rant but sometimes posters don’t leave me with a choice.
 
Never mind the losses.

Last time I checked Imam was averaging very good and Faheem Ashraf was performing just about enough to keep his place.

Our selectors and team management have no imagination whatsoever.

I have been crying out loud to play Umer Khan for months now. He has the capability to pick those 2/3 key wickets the middle and bring the backbone of the other team.
 
Fact that someone who made debut in 1990s is still one of your world cup squad member explains why situation is bad. Transition is not smooth but half baked. There are still some left overs clinging on to their spot.
 
This sort of posts/tweets from [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] has a purpose - I guess, he wants to promote Abid Ali or Hasnain.

Let me explain .....

More or less every-time such "facts & figures" are "exposed", I have noticed Arthur coming up with a distraction ..... Asad - Kohli, Babar - top 3, Faheem - Kluesner, Shadab .... latest was world's potential No. 1 fast bowler in 3 years, with 79 miles thunder bolt - Shaheen Afridi.

Now, I guess it's Hasnain or Abid's turn - next WY or Mahela Jaya?
 
This sort of posts/tweets from [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] has a purpose - I guess, he wants to promote Abid Ali or Hasnain.

Let me explain .....

More or less every-time such "facts & figures" are "exposed", I have noticed Arthur coming up with a distraction ..... Asad - Kohli, Babar - top 3, Faheem - Kluesner, Shadab .... latest was world's potential No. 1 fast bowler in 3 years, with 79 miles thunder bolt - Shaheen Afridi.

Now, I guess it's Hasnain or Abid's turn - next WY or Mahela Jaya?

Hasnain next Waqar you say...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickey Arthur on radio commentary "I'm really excited to watch Shaheen and Hasnain progress. Hopefully one day they'll be the new Wasim Akram-Waqar Younis combination" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1122112071578132481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Hasnain next Waqar you say...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickey Arthur on radio commentary "I'm really excited to watch Shaheen and Hasnain progress. Hopefully one day they'll be the new Wasim Akram-Waqar Younis combination" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1122112071578132481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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So, Abid's turn then .......
 
It is good. Hopefully we lose the next five odis too. It will give our superishtars a good wake up call for the World Cup.
 
What is this mentality? Pakistan losing all matches before the world cup and they will go to world cup as rubbish and mediocre team and they will win it

Hope we perform will but other teams are more deserving than us.
 
Sarfraz should go after the World Cup. Babar should be made Captain of all 3 formats. The best should lead the side.
 
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