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Pakistan National T20 Cup 2023-24: Tournament Thread

Which side will win the National T20 Cup 2023/24?

  • Larkana Region

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  • Hyderabad Region

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  • Karachi Blues

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  • Lahore Blues

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  • Rawalpindi Region

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  • FATA Region

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  • Multan Region

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  • Sialkot Region

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  • Abbottabad Region

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  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .
80% of the PJL players

Playing u16 cricket

Are better than adults

Playing Adult cricket

-just looking like a wow
 
Apparently according to Salman Butt, the PCB in addition to the regional and departmental tournaments is also considering introducing a Pentangular 4 day, ODI and T-20 competition featuring 5 teams.

These 5 teams will consist of 15 players each and the top performers from the regional tournament, departments will be selected in this tournament.

The top performers from these Pentangular competitions will merit selection in the Pakistan team. The question is where will the PCB be able to slot in these tournaments?

Also the PCB has taken a decision that no U19 player will be allowed to play T-20
 
National T20 Cup toss update:

Faisalabad won the toss and decided to field first against Rawalpindi at HPC Oval Ground, Karachi

The toss between Quetta and Peshawar was delayed due to a wet outfield at NBP Sports Complex, Karachi
 
To be honest 80% of the PJL players were better than these unknown unskilled players , PJL players were properly coached as all the batters had decent technique and almost every bowler could swing the ball , spinners were total crap though.
Glory days are back with these many region and department teams.
 
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National T20 Cup toss update:

Faisalabad won the toss and decided to field first against Rawalpindi at HPC Oval Ground, Karachi

The toss between Quetta and Peshawar was delayed due to a wet outfield at NBP Sports Complex, Karachi

Quetta win the toss and decide to field first against Peshawar at NBP Sports Complex, Karachi

Match reduced to 13 overs a side.
 
Rawalpindi Region has set a target of 175/6 for Faisalabad Region.

Faisalabad Region's score atm is 97/4 after 13.1 overs.
 
Peshawar Region set a huge total in the rain-affected game against Quetta Region in the National Cup 2023 match.
In 13 overs, they have scored 158/2
 
Zeeshan Malik becomes the first centurion of National T20 2023-24. He makes an unbeaten 107 off 69 balls against Faisalabad today.
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Peshawar Region set a huge total in the rain-affected game against Quetta Region in the National Cup 2023 match.
In 13 overs, they have scored 158/2
Quetta is struggling to reach the total set by Peshawar.

The score is 68/6 after 10.4 overs.
 
National T20 Cup toss update:

Bahawalpur win the toss and elect to bat first against Abbottabad at HPC Oval Ground, Karachi

Larkana win the toss and elect to bat first against Karachi Blues at NBP Sports Complex, Karachi
 
Krachi Whites win the toss and decide to field first against Lahore Blues at National Bank Stadium, Karachi
 
Scores in brief:

Rawalpindi beat Faisalabad by 27 runs at HPC Oval Ground


Rawalpindi 174-6, 20 overs (Zeeshan Malik 107 not out, Haider Ali 32; Asad Raza 2-43, Sadaqat Ali 1-22, Shehzad Gul 1-28, Waqas Maqsood 1-36)

Faisalabad 147-9, 20 overs (Asif Ali 32, Muhammad Irfan Khan 32, Abdul Samad 20, Ahmed Safi Abdullah 20 not out; Mehran Mumtaz 2-18, Jahandad Khan 2-28, Mubasir Khan 2-42, Mohammad Faizan 1-29)

Peshawar beat Quetta by 69 runs at NBP Sports Complex

Peshawar 158-2, 13 overs (Iftikhar Ahmed 51 not out, Amir Azmat 50 not out, Mohammad Haris 39; Jalat Khan 2-12)

Quetta 89-7, 13 overs (Salahuddin 34 not out, Syed Zainullah 16; Imran Khan Snr 2-16, Mohammad Abbas Afridi 2-19, Iftikhar Ahmed 1-12, Mohammad Imran 1-18, Azam Khan 1-24)
 
Another good outing for Fakhar today

Abbottabad beat Bahawalpur by seven wickets at HPC Oval Ground
Bahawalpur 115-9, 20 overs (Mohammad Shahid 55; Aqib Khan 2-17, Khalid Usman 2-15, Kamran Ghulam 1-10, Yasir Shah 1-21, Adil Naz 1-22)
Abbottabad 116-3, 13 overs (Fakhar Zaman 42, Sajjad Ali Jnr 30; Mohammad Shahid 2-15, Mohammad Junaid 1-35)

Karachi Blues beat Larkana by nine wickets at NBP Sports Complex
Larkana 61 all out, 16.5 overs (Faraz Aziz 26; Syed Waleed Azeem 4-9, Mohammad Taha 2-4, Afnan Khan 2-16, Saqib Khan 1-5, Hasan Mohsin 1-12)
Karachi Blues 63-1, 8.2 overs (Mohammad Taha 36 not out, Jahanzaib Sultan 18; Ali Asghar 1-15)
 
80% of the PJL players

Playing u16 cricket

Are better than adults

Playing Adult cricket

-just looking like a wow
There are better cricketers in my club first 11 then quite a few of these guys. Who said PJL are u16? No one is asking all of them to play, if you watched PJL some of them can easily play. Forget PJL for a moment none of the Pakistan u19 are playing here. Are you seriously telling me they can't get into the 200 odd players playing here?

Finally someone like Arafat Minhas can play for Pakistan in the Asian games but can't get into a team here. We must have the best team ever.
 
Match Scenario Day 2
Pakistan Batters 237-8, 51.3 overs (Saud Shakeel 81 not out, Sarfaraz Ahmed 43, M. Rizwan 25 ,Abdullah Shafiq 22; Hassan Ali 2-24, Mir Hamza 1-48)
 
80% of the PJL players

Playing u16 cricket

Are better than adults

Playing Adult cricket

-just looking like a wow
You seriously haven’t watch any games right? Most of these unknown players looks like they are picked right from the street with no coaching or anything even their basics are not right , all the PJL players had top notch basics even if they were not high quality players but their basics were right
 
Scores in brief

Lahore Blues beat Karachi Whites by five runs at National Bank Stadium
Lahore Blues 159-8, 20 overs (Imran Butt 54, Hussain Talat 45; Aftab Ibrahim 2-15, Arif Yaqoob 2-26, Sohail Khan 2-30, Asad Shafiq 1-13, Ziaullah 1-17)
Karachi Whites 154-7, 20 overs (Ammad Alam 45, Azam Khan 35, Omair Bin Yousuf 31; Kashif Bhatti 2-29, Hussain Talat 1-16, Umaid Asif 1-21, Salman Irshad 1-29, Hunain Shah 1-42)
 
Scores in brief

Lahore Blues beat Karachi Whites by five runs at National Bank Stadium
Lahore Blues 159-8, 20 overs (Imran Butt 54, Hussain Talat 45; Aftab Ibrahim 2-15, Arif Yaqoob 2-26, Sohail Khan 2-30, Asad Shafiq 1-13, Ziaullah 1-17)
Karachi Whites 154-7, 20 overs (Ammad Alam 45, Azam Khan 35, Omair Bin Yousuf 31; Kashif Bhatti 2-29, Hussain Talat 1-16, Umaid Asif 1-21, Salman Irshad 1-29, Hunain Shah 1-42)
This Ammad Alam guy looks talented. But like many other kids, he won't be supported and groomed.
 
Musa Khan looks like he feasted on the left overs. What the hell is going on with our young players
I turned on the game just to see, thinking it can't be that bad and nearly didn't recognise him. He looks like those retired footballers who discovered food after their professional careers ended like Maradona or Ronaldo! 🤣
 
I turned on the game just to see, thinking it can't be that bad and nearly didn't recognise him. He looks like those retired footballers who discovered food after their professional careers ended like Maradona or Ronaldo! 🤣
Looks a shadow of himself lol
 
I turned on the game just to see, thinking it can't be that bad and nearly didn't recognise him. He looks like those retired footballers who discovered food after their professional careers ended like Maradona or Ronaldo! 🤣
Shocking for any professional Sportsman, never mind a young one. When I saw the Lahore game earlier.
 
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So, Arsal and Shayaan are actually decent bowlers it seems
Maybe their dad should have let their talent do the talking. Creating artificial chances destroys careers, not progresses them. Imran Farhats father in law totally destroyed his career with his intervention.
 
Just saw vid of lahore match and mannn so payhetic fielding by both lahore and karachi. And why asad shafiq is captain and even playing for that matter. Also hussain talat didnt dive for a ball that should ve been stopped even with foot. These guys want to play for pakistan??3
 
Just saw vid of lahore match and mannn so payhetic fielding by both lahore and karachi. And why asad shafiq is captain and even playing for that matter. Also hussain talat didnt dive for a ball that should ve been stopped even with foot. These guys want to play for pakistan??3

Asad Shafiq hit 2 50's in a row and has been averaging a SR of 160. He's been playing well. Only today he got run poorly out on 0.
 
Under the reign of Ramiz, Wasim and Mani the domestic structure and quality was much better with full hd coverage and a certain excitement.

I wonder where's the money going now. Not to mention ICC's recent revenue share is much better as well now.
PDM folks dismantled the six team due to their dislike of IK and his policies.They should have kept that system found ways to improve it.They could have increased the number of teams to 10 m
On the discussion of this system. What is the point of half of the Pakistan not playing first class?. it is the most brainless system ever, and no other country has such a system. Hanif cup or trophy is a huge waste of money, the scores, catches and wicket aren't in the record book. What is the whole point of money being wasted by PCB. At least 2nd XI of 6 teams made sense because players could be promoted. If PCB are not okay with 6 teams, just reduce the whole 18 number to 10 teams and those 10 teams should cover the whole Pakistan. The hanif cup and trophy altogether be scrapped.
I agree with you. PDM changed the structure because of their hatred of Imran Khan.They should have tried to improvement existing structure.18 teams are not going to produced world class players.They could have increased the number of teams to 10 first XI and 10 2nd XI.
 
Congratulations to the Don SUGE DADDY KNIGH Shakeel Sheikh for producing two excellent cricketers

Islamabad FIRE!!
 
Islamabad vs Dera Murad Jamali, Group B (N), Karachi, November 26, 2023, National T20 Cup

Islamabad beat Dera Murad Jamali by two wickets at National Bank Stadium
DM Jamali 127 all out, 19.1 overs (Zubair Khan 46, Basit Ali 28; Umair Afridi 4-24, Musa Khan 3-22, Shayan Sheikh 1-6, Farmanullah Khan 1-24)

Islamabad 130-8, 20 overs (Hammad Siddique 51 not out, Ali Imran 24; Saleem Mal 2-26, Mohammad Shahid 2-37, Nasir Khan 1-17, Zahoor Ahmed 1-20)
 
DM Jamali were running away with the show until Arsal and his brother stepped in and put a break on them.
 
Karachi, 26 November 2023: The third day of the AH Group Presents Jazz Super 4G National T20 Cup 2023-24 saw six games played across three venues in Karachi. In Group A, Peshawar and Karachi Blues came out victorious. Group B saw Lahore Blues and Islamabad emerge on top while Abbottabad and Bahawalpur had successful outings in Group C.

Group A

Owing to unbeaten half-centuries by Iftikhar Ahmed and Aamer Azmat, Peshawar posted 158-2 in the stipulated 13 overs in the rain-impacted game against Quetta at NBP Sports Complex in Karachi. In turn, Quetta could only manage 89, losing seven wickets in the process which came courtesy of a collective effort by the Peshawar bowling attack.

At the same venue, Karachi Blues inflicted a nine-wicket defeat on Larkana, who were bowled out for just 61 in 16.5 overs as Syed Waleed Azeem got four wickets while Mohammad Taha and Afnan Khan returned with two each. Karachi Blues chased the target in 8.2 overs, while losing just a wicket.

Group B

Right-arm fast bowler Hunain Shah defended 10 runs in the final over to help Lahore Blues to a five-run win against Karachi Whites at National Bank Stadium. On the back of a half-century Imran Butt, Lahore Blues posted 159-8 in 20 overs. Batting efforts by Ammad Alam, Azam Khan and Omair Bin Yousuf went in vain as their team could only get to 154-7 in the allotted overs.

An undefeated half-century by Hammad Siddique allowed Islamabad to win against Dera Murad Jamali by two wickets. DM Jamali were dismissed for 127 in 19.1 overs courtesy of a four-fer by Umair Afridi. Islamabad faltered while chasing a low total, losing eight wickets in the process, but were able to get over the line on the last ball of the game.

Group C

At HPC Oval Ground, Zeeshan Malik hit his maiden T20 century to help Rawalpindi post 174-6 in 20 overs. In reply, Faisalabad could only get to 147-9, falling well short of the required total. Two wickets each by Mehran Mumtaz, Mubasir Khan and Jahandad Khan helped Rawalpindi’s cause with the ball.

Abbottabad successfully chased the target of 116 against Bahawalpur, doing so in only 13 overs and seven wickets to spare as Fakhar Zaman and Sajjad Ali Jnr starred with the bat. Earlier, Bahawalpur had been restricted to 115-9 in 20 overs due to a solid performance by the Abbottabad bowlers.

Scores in brief:

Group A

Peshawar beat Quetta by 69 runs at NBP Sports Complex

Peshawar 158-2, 13 overs (Iftikhar Ahmed 51 not out, Aamer Azmat 50 not out, Mohammad Haris 39; Jalat Khan 2-12)

Quetta 89-7, 13 overs (Salahuddin 34 not out, Syed Zainullah 16; Imran Khan Snr 2-16, Mohammad Abbas Afridi 2-19, Iftikhar Ahmed 1-12, Mohammad Imran 1-18, Azam Khan 1-24)

Karachi Blues beat Larkana by nine wickets at NBP Sports Complex

Larkana 61 all out, 16.5 overs (Faraz Aziz 26; Syed Waleed Azeem 4-9, Mohammad Taha 2-4, Afnan Khan 2-16, Saqib Khan 1-5, Hasan Mohsin 1-12)

Karachi Blues 63-1, 8.2 overs (Mohammad Taha 36 not out, Jahanzaib Sultan 18; Ali Asghar 1-15)

Group B

Lahore Blues beat Karachi Whites by five runs at National Bank Stadium

Lahore Blues 159-8, 20 overs (Imran Butt 54, Hussain Talat 45; Aftab Ibrahim 2-15, Arif Yaqoob 2-26, Sohail Khan 2-30, Asad Shafiq 1-13, Ziaullah 1-17)

Karachi Whites 154-7, 20 overs (Ammad Alam 45, Azam Khan 35, Omair Bin Yousuf 31; Kashif Bhatti 2-29, Hussain Talat 1-16, Umaid Asif 1-21, Salman Irshad 1-29, Hunain Shah 1-42)

Islamabad beat Dera Murad Jamali by two wickets at National Bank Stadium

DM Jamali 127 all out, 19.1 overs (Zubair Khan 46, Basit Ali 28; Umair Afridi 4-24, Musa Khan 3-22, Shayan Sheikh 1-6, Farmanullah Khan 1-24)

Islamabad 130-8, 20 overs (Hammad Siddique 51 not out, Ali Imran 24; Saleem Mal 2-26, Mohammad Shahid 2-37, Nasir Khan 1-17, Zahoor Ahmed 1-20)

Group C

Rawalpindi beat Faisalabad by 27 runs at HPC Oval Ground

Rawalpindi 174-6, 20 overs (Zeeshan Malik 107 not out, Haider Ali 32; Asad Raza 2-43, Sadaqat Ali 1-22, Shehzad Gul 1-28, Waqas Maqsood 1-36)

Faisalabad 147-9, 20 overs (Asif Ali 32, Muhammad Irfan Khan 32, Abdul Samad 20, Ahmed Safi Abdullah 20 not out; Mehran Mumtaz 2-18, Jahandad Khan 2-28, Mubasir Khan 2-42, Mohammad Faizan 1-29)

Abbottabad beat Bahawalpur by seven wickets at HPC Oval Ground

Bahawalpur 115-9, 20 overs (Mohammad Shahid 55; Aqib Khan 2-17, Khalid Usman 2-15, Kamran Ghulam 1-10, Yasir Shah 1-21, Adil Naz 1-22)

Abbottabad 116-3, 13 overs (Fakhar Zaman 42, Sajjad Ali Jnr 30; Mohammad Shahid 2-15, Mohammad Junaid 1-35)
 
how come pcb doesn't use speed guns to measure and demonstrate the speed of the bowlers in domestic matches which are live telecasts...is it too expensive?
 
The problem with this 18 team format is that a lot of teams are very substandard and they are carrying 6-9 very average quality Malnourished players and 3-5 decent, quality players. It could be argued that plenty of teams has diluted the standard of the quality of cricket especially in terms of fitness, fielding and batting.

However Pakistan is a predominantly one sport country with a 250 million population therefore it is equally vital to have a wider talent pool and to ensure all the potential players in our country, system get an opportunity to play cricket and with such a packed international calendar we need a busy domestic cricket structure where our nation team players in their free time are able to go back to domestic cricket for development purposes.

According to Salman Butt, the PCB recognizes this quantity diluting the quality of cricket problem therefore they are now considering introducing an additional pentangular 5-6 team 4 day, ODI and T20 tournaments once all the domestic regional and departmental tournaments are finished. All the international players and the top performers of the regional, department tournaments will be fitted into these 5-6 pentangular sides and the players who do well in this pentangular tournaments will have the best chance of being picked for Pakistan and the Shaheens team going forward.

The plan looks good on paper but where will the PCB have the time to fit in these additional pentangular tournaments? The time period from May to September is very hot, humid in Pakistan and playing cricket is impossible in this weather plus the international players will be busy with county, hundred, cpl, USA, Canada League commitments.
 
The problem with this 18 team format is that a lot of teams are very substandard and they are carrying 6-9 very average quality Malnourished players and 3-5 decent, quality players. It could be argued that plenty of teams has diluted the standard of the quality of cricket especially in terms of fitness, fielding and batting.

However Pakistan is a predominantly one sport country with a 250 million population therefore it is equally vital to have a wider talent pool and to ensure all the potential players in our country, system get an opportunity to play cricket and with such a packed international calendar we need a busy domestic cricket structure where our nation team players in their free time are able to go back to domestic cricket for development purposes.

According to Salman Butt, the PCB recognizes this quantity diluting the quality of cricket problem therefore they are now considering introducing an additional pentangular 5-6 team 4 day, ODI and T20 tournaments once all the domestic regional and departmental tournaments are finished. All the international players and the top performers of the regional, department tournaments will be fitted into these 5-6 pentangular sides and the players who do well in this pentangular tournaments will have the best chance of being picked for Pakistan and the Shaheens team going forward.

The plan looks good on paper but where will the PCB have the time to fit in these additional pentangular tournaments? The time period from May to September is very hot, humid in Pakistan and playing cricket is impossible in this weather plus the international players will be busy with county, hundred, cpl, USA, Canada League commitments.
It's a solid idea if they actually pulls this one out.
 
National T20 Cup toss update:

Dera Murad Jamali win the toss and elect to bat first against Lahore Blues at UBL Sports Complex, Karachi

Bahawalpur win the toss and decide to field first against Rawalpindi at HPC Oval Ground, Karachi

FATA win the toss and decide to field first against Multan at NBP Sports Complex, Karachi
 
National T20 Cup toss update:

Islamabad win the toss and elect to bat first against Hyderabad at UBL Sports Complex, Karachi

Abbottabad win the toss and decide to field first against Faisalabad at HPC Oval Ground, Karachi

Sialkot win the toss and decide to field first against AJK at NBP Sports Complex, Karachi
 
Lahore Blues beat Dera Murad Jamali by five wickets at UBL Sports Complex
DM Jamali 139-9, 20 overs (Nasir Khan 30, Shoaib Ahmed 25; Asfand Mehran 3-24, Hussain Talat 1-16, Kashif Bhatti 1-16, Umaid Asif 1-19, Qasim Akram 1-24)
Lahore Blues 142-5, 19.3 overs (Rizwan Hussain 45, Hussain Talat 43; Nasir Khan 2-16, Fahad Hussain 1-16, Zahoor Ahmed 1-20, Hidayatullah 1-36)

Rawalpindi beat Bahawalpur by 37 runs at HPC Oval Ground
Rawalpindi 232-3, 20 overs (Zeeshan Malik 57 not out, Yasir Khan 55, Rehman Khan 52, Haider Ali 36; Gulfam Aziz 2-54, Aun Shehzad 1-45)
Bahawalpur 195-7, 20 overs (Aun Shehzad 76, Moinuddin 55, Mohammad Shahid 43; Shiraz Khan 2-38, Jahandad Khan 2-42, Zaman Khan 2-50, Mehran Mumtaz 1-31)

Multan beat FATA by three runs at NBP Sports Complex
Multan 153-5, 20 overs (Sharoon Siraj 56, Zain Abbas 44; Akif Javed 2-21, Asif Afridi 1-21, Irfanullah Shah 1-26, Azaz Khan 1-29)
FATA 150-7, 20 overs (Samiullah Jnr 47, Shahid Aziz 27 not out, Asif Afridi 20 not out; Tahir Hussain 2-27, Aamer Yamin 2-36, Ali Majid 1-11, Sirajuddin 1-45)
 
According to Salman Butt, the PCB recognizes this quantity diluting the quality of cricket problem therefore they are now considering introducing an additional pentangular 5-6 team 4 day, ODI and T20 tournaments once all the domestic regional and departmental tournaments are finished. All the international players and the top performers of the regional, department tournaments will be fitted into these 5-6 pentangular sides and the players who do well in this pentangular tournaments will have the best chance of being picked for Pakistan and the Shaheens team going forward.
In other words the system we literally had before Misbah and Hafeez tore it up.

If 6 teams weren't enough, just add another couple. Why this desire to always undo your predecessor's work and start again ?
 
When you say Bismillah, but things still don't quite work out :cry:

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I really rate Shayan Sheikh the guy drift in like Imad Wasim and can turn it away as well (not huge spin but just enough) definitely having some potential this fellow and has dominated Hanif Muhammad Trophy this season too.

And he has picked up wickets in every single last 10 games he played.
 
That was a decent innings by Bangalzai. Played at number 3…a slow starter but he has solid six hitting shots against spinners. Needs to work on his power game against pacers
 
Sialkot beat AJK by nine wickets at NBP Sports Complex

AJK 59 all out, 18.2 overs (Naveed Malik 24; Usman Khalid 4-13, Usama Mir 2-12, Mohammad Abbas 1-10, Bilal Asif 1-15)
Sialkot 60-1, 6 overs (Amad Butt 27 not out, Mirza Tahir Baig 27 not out; Usman Yousaf 1-39)

Abbottabad beat Faisalabad by six wickets at HPC Oval Ground

Faisalabad 143 all out, 20 overs (Abdul Samad 47, Muhammad Irfan Khan 33, Asif Ali 21; Shahab Khan 2-22, Adil Naz 2-23, Kamran Ghulam 1-14, Yasir Shah 1-35)
Abbottabad 144-4, 18.3 overs (Kamran Ghulam 62 not out, Mohammad Arif 24, Shahab Khan 22 not out; Sadaqat Ali 2-17, Waqas Maqsood 1-24, Asad Raza 1-40)

Islamabad beat Hyderabad by 10 runs at UBL Sports Complex
Islamabad 153-3, 20 overs (Sarmad Bhatti 56 not out, Hammad Siddique 27 not out, Ali Imran 25; Asad Malik 1-17, Daniyal Hussain Rajput 1-20, Mustafa Nasir 1-34)
Hyderabad 143-7, 20 overs (Mohammad Suleman 62, Tayyab Ali Shah 31; Umair Afridi 3-22, Haris Rauf 3-29)

Lahore Whites beat Quetta by nine wickets at National Bank Stadium
Quetta 132-5, 20 overs (Abdul Wahid Bangalzai 79, Salahuddin 22; Mohammad Irfan 2-18, Mohammad Amir Khan 2-28)
Lahore Whites 135-1, 12 overs (Ahmed Shehzad 81, Muhammad Akhlaq 44 not out; Hanan Achakzai 1-23)
 
Larkana win the toss and decide to field first against Peshawar at National Bank Stadium, Karachi

Who do you reckon will win tonight?
 
Very depressing standard of cricket. Some of the teams like Bhawalpur, Quetta look grotesquelly out of their depth and filled with very average, malnourished players with no power hitting base, technique or game awareness.

The PCB also should have spread out the competition to 3-4 different international standard stadiums even if it meant increase in travelling, accomodation, broadcast cost provided it meant more quality cricket. Playing in the same venue, pitches just means the pitches will wear and tear quickly.

These domestic coaches, domestic fitness trainers have to be made to earn their keep, too many of them have been in the system for so long with nothing to show for it.
 
Seems like 50 percent of gully cricketers brought to play with international experienced players . Joke of tournament
 
I don’t think I’ve laughed as much in my life as I have watching that fielding effort by Larkana
 
I can’t believe PCB were forcing Imad to play this standard in order to show his commitment to Pakistan cricket

This standard will make good players regress or give them a false sense of entitlement , not improve
 
I can’t believe PCB were forcing Imad to play this standard in order to show his commitment to Pakistan cricket

This standard will make good players regress or give them a false sense of entitlement , not improve

Bro do you now understand why some are against so many teams?
 
Bro do you now understand why some are against so many teams?
They need to make divisions

Don’t kill these regions off. Larkana, Bahalwalpur, DM Jamali etc.

Let them play and compete in a lower division
 
I don’t think I’ve laughed as much in my life as I have watching that fielding effort by Larkana
Thanks to the new set up. The quality of this is embarrassing. Last year thanks to Imran Khan the quality was miles better. Much better players competing against each other now it seems like they have picked up players from the street to this.
 
The standard of cricket is unimaginably bad this season. I'd bet that the Afghan domestic T20 tournament is of higher quality.

The sheer stupidity it takes to organize a tournament with 24 teams when you don't even have enough decent players to form 6 good teams is amazing. A team's 11 this season consisted entirely of debuts, which explains why these guys are playing as if it's their first time seeing a cricket ball.

PCB post-Ramiz has been incompetency personified, as is the case for the rest of the country over the past 2 years.
 
They need to make divisions

Don’t kill these regions off. Larkana, Bahalwalpur, DM Jamali etc.

Let them play and compete in a lower division
There already was a 2nd division of 6 teams. If a 30+ year old was not good enough to play in the 2nd division cricket of last year's domestic tournament then they should play club cricket or consider a different career.

Abrar made his way from the 2nd division to the main team over the course of a single season, this is a great system by Pak domestic standards. It puts pressure on players to perform in order to avoid demotion and it motivates the 2nd division to perform in order to receive a promotion.

There is no motivation or pressure this season.
 
The standard of cricket is unimaginably bad this season. I'd bet that the Afghan domestic T20 tournament is of higher quality.

The sheer stupidity it takes to organize a tournament with 24 teams when you don't even have enough decent players to form 6 good teams is amazing. A team's 11 this season consisted entirely of debuts, which explains why these guys are playing as if it's their first time seeing a cricket ball.

PCB post-Ramiz has been incompetency personified, as is the case for the rest of the country over the past 2 years.
But apparently we need 200m FC teams with our 200m population (I guess even nani and baba have got bats in hand since we're counting them part of the cricket playing population) and to hell with the quality of the competition because everybody needs to make a living.

I didn't know the primary purpose of FC cricket was giving mediocre cricketers a paycheck.
 
But apparently we need 200m FC teams with our 200m population (I guess even nani and baba have got bats in hand since we're counting them part of the cricket playing population) and to hell with the quality of the competition because everybody needs to make a living.

I didn't know the primary purpose of FC cricket was giving mediocre cricketers a paycheck.
It's funny that people still use the employment argument because 10+ million people have become unemployed over the past 2 years, compared to 50-200 that lost their domestic contract due to the 6(6-second dev) team system.

PCB isn't a public institution, thus it isn't their responsibility to provide as many jobs as possible and provide handouts. The PCB's only job is to do whatever it can to improve Pakistani cricket, something that it is failing to do.
 
The standard of cricket is unimaginably bad this season. I'd bet that the Afghan domestic T20 tournament is of higher quality.

The sheer stupidity it takes to organize a tournament with 24 teams when you don't even have enough decent players to form 6 good teams is amazing. A team's 11 this season consisted entirely of debuts, which explains why these guys are playing as if it's their first time seeing a cricket ball.

PCB post-Ramiz has been incompetency personified, as is the case for the rest of the country over the past 2 years.
Something like this should be done a regional basis to allow players that have missed the boat to show case talent. For example KP could do with a 6 team regional tournament, Punjab could have a 10 team tournament etc. This should be a max of 8 teams and they should be the best players.
 
They need to make divisions

Don’t kill these regions off. Larkana, Bahalwalpur, DM Jamali etc.

Let them play and compete in a lower division
The IK system had the right idea at the top but the route into the top need the regional aspect to work. Instead they threw the baby out with the bath water in a desperate attempt to show up IK, and just like the tripe we got in govt, we have the same appalling standards here.
 
There already was a 2nd division of 6 teams. If a 30+ year old was not good enough to play in the 2nd division cricket of last year's domestic tournament then they should play club cricket or consider a different career.

Abrar made his way from the 2nd division to the main team over the course of a single season, this is a great system by Pak domestic standards. It puts pressure on players to perform in order to avoid demotion and it motivates the 2nd division to perform in order to receive a promotion.

There is no motivation or pressure this season.
The second division was of the same region, and it just wasn’t giving these deprived regions and their players the exposure they wanted.

So I think that they should get that exposure like they have in this tournament. Just not having to face regions that are way more advanced than they are.

The idea of having more teams is correct. To put them all in the same platform as each other is not a great idea.
 
The IK system had the right idea at the top but the route into the top need the regional aspect to work. Instead they threw the baby out with the bath water in a desperate attempt to show up IK, and just like the tripe we got in govt, we have the same appalling standards here.
This domestic season has been a good reflection of where the country is right now. Taking something decent and turning it into trash out of spite for the previous administration.

They could've tried improving the system they inherited but that would've taken too much effort. These people aren't known for their hard work.
 

100 for Farhan and 76 off 31 balls for Iftikhar. Peshawar post 248/2

Iftikhar is way to good for this domestic tournament. He's one of the best hitters of pace going around in World Cricket.
 
This domestic season has been a good reflection of where the country is right now. Taking something decent and turning it into trash out of spite for the previous administration.

They could've tried improving the system they inherited but that would've taken too much effort. These people aren't known for their hard work.
They have no ideas, and just like their nexus of criminality is from an 80s handbook, so is there cricketing ideas. So loser claimed that IK failed with his system, a system that only ran for 3 years with 2 of them under Corona. Apparently the system that has been going for decades was doing great but all the current generation bar the odd one are products of that system. Jesus wept
 
The second division was of the same region, and it just wasn’t giving these deprived regions and their players the exposure they wanted.

So I think that they should get that exposure like they have in this tournament. Just not having to face regions that are way more advanced than they are.

The idea of having more teams is correct. To put them all in the same platform as each other is not a great idea.
That's called a regional tournament.

Domestic cricket isn't the place for mass representation of people who aren't good at playing cricket.

Pakistan has 6 provinces which cover each inch of the country. If someone is from Larkana and they are good enough for domestic cricket then they can play for Sindh's team, the same goes for other people who are from smaller regions.

We don't need more than 8 teams right now, the talent just isn't there.
 
Saw only a few minutes of the Peshawar and OMG the level of fielding by Larkana is beyond horrific. Even if you lack talent, fielding is the one thing that is easy to be good at and so many of them literally cannot catch a ball or stop it.

I am absolutely disgusted and appalled at the level of quality from our domestic season this season. Every format has been beyond horrific. Congrats on completing overhauling a domestic season for no reason that was working and starting to produce results & had quality that was worthwhile watching.

Ever since Mani & Wasim Khan have left, Pakistan have slipped back into being completely unprofessional and back into the dark days of Pakistan. Very disappointing stuff.
 
Peshawar beat Larkana by 126 runs at National Bank Stadium

Peshawar 248-2, 20 overs (Sahibzada Farhan 109 not out, Iftikhar Ahmed 76 not out, Aamer Azmat 44; Zahid Mehmood 1-35, Imtiaz Legari 1-51)

Larkana 122-7, 20 overs (Umar Khalid 33, Ghulam Raza 20; Mohammad Imran 2-15, Iftikhar Ahmed 2-35, Azam Khan 1-12, Mohammad Abbas Afridi 1-29, Imran Khan Snr 1-31)
 
That's called a regional tournament.

Domestic cricket isn't the place for mass representation of people who aren't good at playing cricket.

Pakistan has 6 provinces which cover each inch of the country. If someone is from Larkana and they are good enough for domestic cricket then they can play for Sindh's team, the same goes for other people who are from smaller regions.

We don't need more than 8 teams right now, the talent just isn't there.
I agree.I believe 8 teams consisting of best players are enough.You can have a 2nd XI as well so total players in an 8 team structure are 196.This is more than enough.This doesn’t mean there is n cricket a school,district or club level.The good players from lower tiers can play for any of the 8 regional teams if they are good enough.
 
Karachi, 27 November 2023: The fourth day of the AH Group Presents Jazz Super 4G National T20 Cup 2023-24 saw eight action-packed games played across four venues in Karachi. Group A witnessed Lahore Whites and Peshawar win while Group B saw results in favor of Lahore Blues and Islamabad. Owing to their wins today, Rawalpindi and Abbottabad from Group C have progressed to Super Eight stage. For Group D, FATA, despite their loss against Multan today, alongside Sialkot have also qualified for the Super Eight stage.

Group A

At National Bank Stadium, Ahmed Shehzad (81, 44b, 10x4s, 4x6s) and Muhammad Akhlaq (44 not out, 24b, 5x4s, 2x6s) unleashed a fierce batting onslaught to take Lahore Whites to a nine-wicket victory over Quetta as the side chased the target in 12 overs. Earlier, Quetta had scored 132-5 in 20 overs, with Abdul Wahid Bangalzai (79, 63b, 4x4s, 4x6s) scoring a bulk of the total.

Fireworks by Sahibzada Farhan (107 not out, 54b, 15x4s, 4x6s), Iftikhar Ahmed (76 not out, 31b, 8x4s, 4x6s) and Aamer Azmat (44, 27b, 3x4s, 3x6s) took Peshawar to a mammoth total of 248-2 – the highest in the history of National T20 Cup – in the first innings. In turn, Larkana could only manage to get 122-7 in the allotted overs, losing by a huge margin of 126 runs, with all of Peshawar bowlers returning with at least a wicket each.

Group B

Lahore Blues defeated Dera Murad Jamali by five wickets at UBL Sports Complex after Rizwan Hussain (45, 39b, 1x4, 3x6s) and Hussain Talat (43, 35b, 4x4s, 1x6) helped chase the target in the last over. Earlier, DM Jamali had been restricted to 139-9 in 20 overs, with Asfand Mehran getting a three-wicket haul.

Mohammad Suleman’s (62, 56b, 6x4s) half-century went in vain as Hyderabad lost against Islamabad by 10 runs. Sarmad Bhatti’s (56 not out, 36b, 4x4s, 2x6s) unbeaten half-century took Islamabad to 153-5 in the first innings. In turn, Hyderabad could only make 143-7, with Haris Rauf and Umair Afridi returning with three wickets each.

Group C

Zeeshan Malik (57 not out, 22b, 6x4s, 4x6s), Yasir Khan (55, 36b, 5x4s, 3x6s), Rehman Khan (52, 52b, 7x4s) and Haider Ali (36, 13b, 2x4s, 4x6s) took Rawalpindi to a formidable total of 232-3 against Bahawalpur at HPC Oval Ground. Aun Shehzad (76, 47b, 12x4s) and Mohammad Shahid (43, 35b, 5x4s, 2x6s) brought Bahawalpur close to the target, however, the team could only manage 195-7 in the completed 20 overs, losing by 37 runs.

Abbottabad defeated Faisalabad by six wickets as Kamran Ghulam (62 not out, 43b, 5x4s, 2x6s) helped the team cruise to 144 in 18.3 overs with six wickets to spare. Earlier, Faisalabad had been dismissed for 143 in 20 overs, with Adil Naz and Shahab Khan getting two wickets each.

Group D

Multan narrowly beat FATA at NBP Sports Complex as the latter fell four runs short of the target while chasing 154. A half-century by Sharoon Siraj (56, 33b, 5x4s, 3x6s) and a 45-ball-44 by Zain Abbas took the team to 153-5 in the first innings, which was subsequently defended by the Multan bowlers in the latter half of the game.

Sialkot cruised to a nine-wicket win after dismissing AJK for just 59 in 18.2 overs on the back of a four-wicket haul by Usman Khalid. It took Sialkot just six overs to complete the target, courtesy of fiery batting by Amad Butt (27 not out, 13b, 2x4s, 2x6s) and Mirza Tahir Baig (27 not out, 19b, 4x4s, 1x6).

Scores in brief:

Group A

Lahore Whites beat Quetta by nine wickets at National Bank Stadium


Quetta 132-5, 20 overs (Abdul Wahid Bangalzai 79, Salahuddin 22; Mohammad Irfan 2-18, Mohammad Amir Khan 2-28)

Lahore Whites 135-1, 12 overs (Ahmed Shehzad 81, Muhammad Akhlaq 44 not out; Hanan Achakzai 1-23)

Peshawar beat Larkana by 126 runs at National Bank Stadium

Peshawar 248-2, 20 overs (Sahibzada Farhan 109 not out, Iftikhar Ahmed 76 not out, Aamer Azmat 44; Zahid Mehmood 1-35, Imtiaz Legari 1-51)

Larkana 122-7, 20 overs (Umar Khalid 33, Ghulam Raza 20; Mohammad Imran 2-15, Iftikhar Ahmed 2-35, Azam Khan 1-12, Mohammad Abbas Afridi 1-29, Imran Khan Snr 1-31)

Group B

Lahore Blues beat DM Jamali by five wickets at UBL Sports Complex


DM Jamali 139-9, 20 overs (Nasir Khan 30, Shoaib Ahmed 25; Asfand Mehram 3-24, Hussain Talat 1-16, Kashif Bhatti 1-16, Umaid Asif 1-19, Qasim Akram 1-24)

Lahore Blues 142-5, 19.3 overs (Rizwan Hussain 45, Hussain Talat 43; Nasir Khan 2-16, Fahad Hussain 1-16, Zahoor Ahmed 1-20, Hidayatullah 1-36)

Islamabad beat Hyderabad by 10 runs at UBL Sports Complex

Islamabad 153-3, 20 overs (Sarmad Bhatti 56 not out, Hammad Siddique 27 not out, Ali Imran 25; Asad Malik 1-17, Daniyal Hussain Rajput 1-20, Mustafa Nasir 1-34)

Hyderabad 143-7, 20 overs (Mohammad Suleman 62, Tayyab Ali Shah 31; Umair Afridi 3-22, Haris Raif 3-29)

Group C

Rawalpindi beat Bahawalpur by 37 runs at HPC Oval Ground


Rawalpindi 232-3, 20 overs (Zeeshan Malik 57 not out, Yasir Khan 55, Rehman Khan 52, Haider Ali 36; Gulfam Aziz 2-54, Aun Shehzad 1-45)

Bahawalpur 195-7, 20 overs (Aun Shehzad 76, Moinuddin 55, Mohammad Shahid 43; Shiraz Khan 2-38, Jahandad Khan 2-42, Zaman Khan 2-50, Mehran Mumtaz 1-31)

Abbottabad beat Faisalabad by six wickets at HPC Oval Ground

Faisalabad 143 all out, 20 overs (Abdul Samad 47, Muhammad Irfan Khan 33, Asif Ali 21; Shahab Khan 2-22, Adil Naz 2-23, Kamran Ghulam 1-14, Yasir Shah 1-35)

Abbottabad 144-4, 18.3 overs (Kamran Ghulam 62 not out, Mohammad Arif 24, Shahab Khan 22 not out; Sadaqat Ali 2-17, Waqas Maqsood 1-24, Asad Raza 1-40)

Group D

Multan beat FATA by three runs at NBP Sports Complex


Multan 153-5, 20 overs (Sharoon Siraj 56, Zain Abbas 44; Akif Javed 2-21, Asif Afridi 1-21, Irfanullah Shah 1-26, Azaz Khan 1-29)

FATA 150-7, 20 overs (Samiullah Jnr 47, Shahid Aziz 27 not out; Tahir Hussain 2-27, Aamer Yamin 2-36, Ali Majid 1-11, Sirajuddin 1-45)

Sialkot beat AJK by nine wickets at NBP Sports Complex

AJK 59 all out, 18.2 overs (Naveed Malik 24; Usman Khalid 4-13, Usama Mir 2-12, Mohammad Abbas 1-10, Bilal Asif 1-15)
 
The second division was of the same region, and it just wasn’t giving these deprived regions and their players the exposure they wanted.

So I think that they should get that exposure like they have in this tournament. Just not having to face regions that are way more advanced than they are.

The idea of having more teams is correct. To put them all in the same platform as each other is not a great idea.
And you can see why these guys were overlooked. They are awful, not FC by any standards. I bet these guys wouldn't be FC anywhere in the World, not even in Zimbabwe.
 
Saw only a few minutes of the Peshawar and OMG the level of fielding by Larkana is beyond horrific. Even if you lack talent, fielding is the one thing that is easy to be good at and so many of them literally cannot catch a ball or stop it.

I am absolutely disgusted and appalled at the level of quality from our domestic season this season. Every format has been beyond horrific. Congrats on completing overhauling a domestic season for no reason that was working and starting to produce results & had quality that was worthwhile watching.

Ever since Mani & Wasim Khan have left, Pakistan have slipped back into being completely unprofessional and back into the dark days of Pakistan. Very disappointing stuff.
Larkana fielding would embaarras 60 year old players. This sort of tripe has shown why IKs system was a good idea that needed adjustments and evolution not some system that in no way improves PK cricket
 
Saw only a few minutes of the Peshawar and OMG the level of fielding by Larkana is beyond horrific. Even if you lack talent, fielding is the one thing that is easy to be good at and so many of them literally cannot catch a ball or stop it.

I am absolutely disgusted and appalled at the level of quality from our domestic season this season. Every format has been beyond horrific. Congrats on completing overhauling a domestic season for no reason that was working and starting to produce results & had quality that was worthwhile watching.

Ever since Mani & Wasim Khan have left, Pakistan have slipped back into being completely unprofessional and back into the dark days of Pakistan. Very disappointing stuff.
Mohd Wasim was hounded out by idiots and guys looking for freebies.
 
That's called a regional tournament.

Domestic cricket isn't the place for mass representation of people who aren't good at playing cricket.

Pakistan has 6 provinces which cover each inch of the country. If someone is from Larkana and they are good enough for domestic cricket then they can play for Sindh's team, the same goes for other people who are from smaller regions.

We don't need more than 8 teams right now, the talent just isn't there.
I always felt that in time an extra couple of teams could have been added. The system needed to bed down and then look at its weaknesses. For the IK system to work properly, it needed the regional tournaments for 3 day, one day and T20. They then feed into the provincial teams. It also needed good wickets and the wickets were too flat, and although that is preferable to underprepared wickets where the likes of Assad Ali, Sadaf, Rashid Latif( the bowler) caused havoc, they still didn't sow the seeds for better players. But Rome wasn't built in a day.
 
Larkana fielding would embaarras 60 year old players. This sort of tripe has shown why IKs system was a good idea that needed adjustments and evolution not some system that in no way improves PK cricket
One more thing I'd like to point out, Ehsan Mani's regime brought in quality broadcasting to domestic cricket because of which we can see the poor performances of teams like Larkana(which lost 10 matches in a row). We are getting a visual representation of the quality of our domestic cricket pre-Imran Khan's changes in the PCB.

No wonder Pakistan's fielding in world cricket is considered a joke, our domestic cricket promotes mediocrity and rewards failure.
 
One more thing I'd like to point out, Ehsan Mani's regime brought in quality broadcasting to domestic cricket because of which we can see the poor performances of teams like Larkana(which lost 10 matches in a row). We are getting a visual representation of the quality of our domestic cricket pre-Imran Khan's changes in the PCB.

No wonder Pakistan's fielding in world cricket is considered a joke, our domestic cricket promotes mediocrity and rewards failure.
It's noticeable that not only have the guys that backed this tripe disappeared from defending it, they now realise that the clowns they support have no idea at all.
 
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