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A 10 wicket phainta to India might open the door for Pak players in IPL. The franchise owners will take a note of players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Imad etc and would be willing to buy them.

If politics dont stop their hand, expect quite a few Pak players getting picked in next IPL.
 
Only if BCCI invites the Pakistani players. That is more political than by performance
 
Pakistan not playing in IPL has never been about skill level or competitiveness. From 2009-2012 Pakistan was almost always among the top T20 players
 
Agree.
I said in one of the thread where someone asked hypothetically who will get selected from Pak if players are allowed.
I mentioned there and I repeat again Shaheen, Babar and Rizwan will get picked easily. Specially Shaheen will start a bidding war during auction.
 
If peak Saeed Ajmal, Gul, Afridi, Umar Akmal couldn’t get in , then can’t see how anything changes unless the political relations improve
 

Bcoz you have proved against India Infront of Jay Shah, Ganguly, Akshay Kumar and other big shots in a packed stadium. Its like entering into a big fat Bollywood party and beating the hosts to the pulp. This will get attention for sure.
 
Bcoz you have proved against India Infront of Jay Shah, Ganguly, Akshay Kumar and other big shots in a packed stadium. Its like entering into a big fat Bollywood party and beating the hosts to the pulp. This will get attention for sure.

We lost. Get over it. It was a world cup match not a talent hunt show for low quality pyjama league teams. :inti
 
As if they would want to come to that flash harry league.
 
Unless Jay Shah is on this forum, not sure who exactly is this thread meant for? "Must in IPL", I mean who on this forum is going to decide that. Besides, genuinely feel Pakistani cricketers would be better off without playing in IPL. Fine, they will miss out on making some money but how much money is enough. I am sure Pakistani players maintain a comfortable lifestyle and would be having decent wealth. From cricketing point of view, there's nothing to gain in an ordinary league where players make a name for themselves by bashing ordinary Indian bowlers as each side ends up playing plenty of them.
 
The BCCI can't do much about it even they wanted to include Pakistani players. They will listen to the government who don't want Pakistani players to play.
 
Erm.. Do you seriously think Pakistan losing to India in T20Is was stopping Pak players from getting picked in the IPL?
 
it was never about quality of players.

And there is no official ban.

Pak players can put themselves in auction but no one will pick them up
 
As if their quality was the difference maker. We'd do well to have their reserve pacers playing for our franchises
 
Performance was never the reason for non-inclusion of Pak players in IPL.
 
Rizwan, Babar, Fakhar, Imad, Shadab, Shaheen, Hasan, Rauf. These are all players who would easily make IPL teams. Especially with it becoming a 10 team tournament now.
 
Don't think it will be wise if Pakistan players play in IPL it will nullify them, India play Aussie bowlers with ease and made them their bunnies. Better that Pakistan stay away from IPL and we get to witness contest as good as today.
 
Rizwan, Babar, and Shaheen are better than many IPL superstars.
 
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Imagine Amir and Kohli in the same team.

Haidar Ali and Ishan Kishan batting together.👀

I think PCB should allow the players to play in the IPL if BCCI pay PCB $$$$
 
I don’t see the point. Why now? Because we beat you by 10 wickets?

What about next year when we may lose by 10 wickets or maybe even later in this tournament?
 
I don't want them to play in the IPL. Also India doesn't have laws against discriminating hires based off nationality unlike many western countries so there's no obligation for the IPL to make an objective decision on who they let play.
 
A 10 wicket phainta to India might open the door for Pak players in IPL. The franchise owners will take a note of players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Imad etc and would be willing to buy them.

If politics dont stop their hand, expect quite a few Pak players getting picked in next IPL.


Naw.
PSL has more class and content that relates to the sports of cricket.
IPL is fake glitter lithered with booze and cheer leaders - it has nothing beneficial to the sports of cricket.
 
I would say no way.. if anything, use these performances on the world stage to grow the PSL.. show the world in this tournament why Pakistanis are a force to reckon with in T20 and make PSL bigger and better.
 
I would say no way.. if anything, use these performances on the world stage to grow the PSL.. show the world in this tournament why Pakistanis are a force to reckon with in T20 and make PSL bigger and better.

Exactly!

It's imperative that our Pak players stay in PSL, and stay away from IPL.

This is the only way PSL will have value, worth and class.

If our players go to IPL then that will be the death of PSL.

Right now, PSL is in the best position to emerge as the true rival league to IPL.
 
Why? Because they ended the arrogance of IPL superstars? :inti

It was a great win for Pakistan and a horrible loss for India. Some Indian fans learnt that IPL doesn't automatically make you a chota God.

But it's one game. No need to get too excited. I understand it's hard to hold it in, but calm down my Delhi brother :asif
 
the OP implies that Pakistani players were not good enough that's why they couldnt get into IPL ? Strange !!

Its all politics and BTW none of the IPL superstars have been able to replicate their form in PSL which highlights the quality of PSL
 
IPL is not a cricket but a money fest. After 13 years of playing IPL India couldn't win any T20 WC.
 
The fact Pakistani players aren't playing in the IPL means Indian players have next to zero insight/experience against Pakistan players, in particular the bowlers. This is an advantage for Pakistan team.
 
The fact Pakistani players aren't playing in the IPL means Indian players have next to zero insight/experience against Pakistan players, in particular the bowlers. This is an advantage for Pakistan team.

This is definitely true. I was having the same thought yesterday. India have time and again fallen prey to Pakistani left armers, one because they're so good but also there's another reason that they rarely get to face them and the angle they bring in.
 
Nobody (sane Indian Fans, Media or IPL franchisees) thought that Pakistani players were not talented! They were not excluded for this reason! Its stupidity to think this way!
 
Erm.. Do you seriously think Pakistan losing to India in T20Is was stopping Pak players from getting picked in the IPL?

No. but i think he has a point. the cricket lovers(here ipl) may miss out some amazing players and their inclusion will certainly add some excitement is what hes implying.
 
A 10 wicket phainta to India might open the door for Pak players in IPL. The franchise owners will take a note of players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Imad etc and would be willing to buy them.

If politics dont stop their hand, expect quite a few Pak players getting picked in next IPL.

So what you are trying to say is Pakistani players were not there due to quality? Lets have discussion about it if thats what you mean. If not then what has changed politically which is the reason why Pakistan dont take part in IPL.
 
The fact Pakistani players aren't playing in the IPL means Indian players have next to zero insight/experience against Pakistan players, in particular the bowlers. This is an advantage for Pakistan team.

This is definitely true. I was having the same thought yesterday. India have time and again fallen prey to Pakistani left armers, one because they're so good but also there's another reason that they rarely get to face them and the angle they bring in.

In spite of having no insight/exposure to Pakistani players, the same generation of Indian players have won 4 out of 6 matches against the same generation of Pakistani players.

I wonder what will happen if Indian players get some insight and exposure on Pakistani players. They will win 6 out of 6 I guess.
 
Bcoz you have proved against India Infront of Jay Shah, Ganguly, Akshay Kumar and other big shots in a packed stadium. Its like entering into a big fat Bollywood party and beating the hosts to the pulp. This will get attention for sure.

I mentioned it earlier but it has come to fruition.

I always maintained that if Pakistan provides a hammering against India, then IPL owners will take notice immediately.

Two new teams, great performance, I seriously doubt that no discussions are being held about this possibility.

Even Ganguly invited Ramiz to the IPL Final, so this might be the start of something.
 
IPL has actually helped Indian test cricket, even though its strange to think & believe!

This statement is a big disservice to the Ranjhi Trophy of India. IPL may at most helped Indian ODI cricket, but I refused to believe that it helped Test cricket. Only Ranjhi Trophy should be given the full credit for the improvement of Indian test cricket.
 
In spite of having no insight/exposure to Pakistani players, the same generation of Indian players have won 4 out of 6 matches against the same generation of Pakistani players.

I wonder what will happen if Indian players get some insight and exposure on Pakistani players. They will win 6 out of 6 I guess.

Let’s go one step further, you do not believe any Pakistani player is good enough to play in the IPL, and the IPL is the best cricket comp on the planet, with the best players, yet after 13 years, Indian have not won a T20 Word Cup - yup, exposure!
 
In spite of having no insight/exposure to Pakistani players, the same generation of Indian players have won 4 out of 6 matches against the same generation of Pakistani players.

I wonder what will happen if Indian players get some insight and exposure on Pakistani players. They will win 6 out of 6 I guess.

So you would expect the Pakistani players to regress by playing in the IPL?
Participating in the so called best competition in the world should surely improve the Pakistani players?

You could argue that it could result in 6 wins out of 6 for Pakistan?
 
A 10 wicket phainta to India might open the door for Pak players in IPL. The franchise owners will take a note of players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Imad etc and would be willing to buy them.

If politics dont stop their hand, expect quite a few Pak players getting picked in next IPL.

The look on akshay kumars face at the end of the game was priceless, he was prancing around like a headless chicken when shaheens shy at the stumps went for extras
 
I think its great if both Pakistanis and Indians will play in the PSL and the IPL.

This politics based division is ruining the sports for the fans on both sides. I am sure the fans would love to follow both leagues with their favorite player playing across the border. There is no reason why this cant happen.
 
I think its great if both Pakistanis and Indians will play in the PSL and the IPL.

This politics based division is ruining the sports for the fans on both sides. I am sure the fans would love to follow both leagues with their favorite player playing across the border. There is no reason why this cant happen.

It would be great but Indi doesn't even allow its players to play in England, Australia or for any of the other leagues so I really don't see this happening. Also, If they allowed it then the PSL would literally rake in hundreds of millions of dollars which goes against the Indian Government's mantra of isolating Pakistan
 
And why do you think we are interested in sending our superstars to play your domestic league? India needs to send Kohli, Rohit to play PSL first and then we will think about sending Fakhar and Babar :P
 
What good is the IPL anyway? Since its inception, India has not won the World T20, whereas other franchise leagues have yielded World Cups for their respective nations.

IPL is overrated, only good for fair and lovely cheer leaders.
 
What good is the IPL anyway? Since its inception, India has not won the World T20, whereas other franchise leagues have yielded World Cups for their respective nations.

IPL is overrated, only good for fair and lovely cheer leaders.

Provides the $$$ to the BCCI, which is probably its main objective.
 
This statement is a big disservice to the Ranjhi Trophy of India. IPL may at most helped Indian ODI cricket, but I refused to believe that it helped Test cricket. Only Ranjhi Trophy should be given the full credit for the improvement of Indian test cricket.

Players themselves (especially fast bowlers) have admitted this! Of course Ranji is there, its the basic foundation. It was there even before IPL... But IPL seems to have given that extra booster/exposure for the players to think next level...
 
What good is the IPL anyway? Since its inception, India has not won the World T20, whereas other franchise leagues have yielded World Cups for their respective nations.

IPL is overrated, only good for fair and lovely cheer leaders.

Lol. I havent watched it since 2008. No Pakistanis should play in the ipl. It is a long tournament lots of fixers and bookies out there. Lots of temptations to trap our duddoos. Indians take great pleasure in humiliating Pakistanis in whatever big or small way they can manage.

I also feel with the fitness level of some of our stars they will pick up injuries. Overall there is a reason the bcci limits its players involvement in other league's..
 
It was a great win for Pakistan and a horrible loss for India. Some Indian fans learnt that IPL doesn't automatically make you a chota God.

But it's one game. No need to get too excited. I understand it's hard to hold it in, but calm down my Delhi brother :asif

Everyone knows it is one game and not a series. The only one who is looking excited here is the OP. He desperately wants to see Pakistani players in IPL. :inti
 
So the Pakistani players have beaten new age Indian fans into sense with yesterday’s performance. There is still the odd one or two who is still excluding Rauf from a potential IPL contract lol
 
This defeat hurts the most because of how easily Pakistan chased this total. Our best and greatest bowling attack in the world couldn't even take a single wicket against a team which consists of players who can only dream of playing alongside superstars like Hardik Pandya and Rishabh Pant. :inti
 
So you would expect the Pakistani players to regress by playing in the IPL?
Participating in the so called best competition in the world should surely improve the Pakistani players?

You could argue that it could result in 6 wins out of 6 for Pakistan?

My point is that it will not make any difference. There is no mystery and exoticism attached to Pakistani players or players from any team for that matter.

Pakistani players playing in IPL won’t decrease India’s chances of beating Pakistan and neither will it decrease Pakistan’s chances of producing an upset result against India.

For example, even if Rahul and Shaheen play in the same IPL team, it will not help Rahul keep that delivery out because it was an absolute peach. It was unplayable.

Similarly, the way Babar and Rizwan batted, it won’t make any difference if the Indian bowlers bowl to them every day. They played orthodox, risk free cricket and did not give an inch to the Indian bowlers.
 
What good is the IPL anyway? Since its inception, India has not won the World T20, whereas other franchise leagues have yielded World Cups for their respective nations.

IPL is overrated, only good for fair and lovely cheer leaders.

England (so-called inventors of cricket) took like zillion years to win anything significant (that too controversially) IPL's purpose is known to its followers clearly, only haters think otherwise! Its not about winning all the cups (then why there are other teams?) Also its not like these cups happen every month. There are just like 7 world T20s & 12 ODI WCs so far and you expect one team to win all those? Luck, match-up, availability of right players/combination at right time, etc, everything matters (otherwise Indian, Pakistan & Sri Lanka would never have won in 1983, 1992 & 1996)

If IPL has done anything good in this aspect (which you are speaking) then it has helped West Indies team (who were done & dusted team a decade back!) to win 2 of those T20 cups and their players have admitted it! (They got the much needed Vitamin-M - money to stay interested in the game!) IPL is also helping players from other nations also! (Except 1 nation and hence all these hate against it!)

If its the case of Indian Cricket only, then IPL might have helped Indian Cricket overall. India is now always an upper ranked team in last few years and have achieved some feats which the past teams couldn't and we (Indians) are happy about that!
 
So the Pakistani players have beaten new age Indian fans into sense with yesterday’s performance. There is still the odd one or two who is still excluding Rauf from a potential IPL contract lol

Before the match the kind of arrogance I saw from our fans both offline and on social media was unbelievable. Not giving even a 1% chance to Pakistan and expecting India to roll over Pakistan. Surely now they know who Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen are? :inti
 
England (so-called inventors of cricket) took like zillion years to win anything significant (that too controversially) IPL's purpose is known to its followers clearly, only haters think otherwise! Its not about winning all the cups (then why there are other teams?) Also its not like these cups happen every month. There are just like 7 world T20s & 12 ODI WCs so far and you expect one team to win all those? Luck, match-up, availability of right players/combination at right time, etc, everything matters (otherwise Indian, Pakistan & Sri Lanka would never have won in 1983, 1992 & 1996)

If IPL has done anything good in this aspect (which you are speaking) then it has helped West Indies team (who were done & dusted team a decade back!) to win 2 of those T20 cups and their players have admitted it! (They got the much needed Vitamin-M - money to stay interested in the game!) IPL is also helping players from other nations also! (Except 1 nation and hence all these hate against it!)

If its the case of Indian Cricket only, then IPL might have helped Indian Cricket overall. India is now always an upper ranked team in last few years and have achieved some feats which the past teams couldn't and we (Indians) are happy about that!

Lol what? IPL was created to help West Indies cricket or Indian cricket? I thought IPL used to prepare players for high pressure LOI matches? :inti
 
England (so-called inventors of cricket) took like zillion years to win anything significant (that too controversially) IPL's purpose is known to its followers clearly, only haters think otherwise! Its not about winning all the cups (then why there are other teams?) Also its not like these cups happen every month. There are just like 7 world T20s & 12 ODI WCs so far and you expect one team to win all those? Luck, match-up, availability of right players/combination at right time, etc, everything matters (otherwise Indian, Pakistan & Sri Lanka would never have won in 1983, 1992 & 1996)

If IPL has done anything good in this aspect (which you are speaking) then it has helped West Indies team (who were done & dusted team a decade back!) to win 2 of those T20 cups and their players have admitted it! (They got the much needed Vitamin-M - money to stay interested in the game!) IPL is also helping players from other nations also! (Except 1 nation and hence all these hate against it!)

If its the case of Indian Cricket only, then IPL might have helped Indian Cricket overall. India is now always an upper ranked team in last few years and have achieved some feats which the past teams couldn't and we (Indians) are happy about that!

England never claimed their county circuits were the best, or promoted their cricket as finance, or forbid their players from playing in other leagues, etc. So your comparison with England never winning anything is sheer utter nonsense.

India along with IPL fanbois continue to claim the IPL is the best, ‘bigger’ than the ODI world cup, rammed with the world’s best players (mostly retirees/rejects), well sunshine, 13 years on, and India have not won a single T20 WC, cos the reality is IPL is a mediocre league designed just for money and entertainment.

Irony is, India did win the inaugural WC before IPL was a figment on anyone’s imagination. Must be those boozy post IPL match parties ever since.
 
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Next IPL has 10 teams, and that means more number of players needed. Pakistan would be great addition. Especially given the lack of emerging talents from South Africa, Sri Lanka, West Indies.

However, Pakistan and its players, fans have loud mouths. They have this holier than thru attitude, and that presents a great risk for IPL teams. They thought of themselves bigger than IPL back in 2009...
 
Pak players going to IPL means the death of PSL.

For a small charm, we are going to lose out on a much bigger opportunity.

Right now PSL is in the best position to become the only true rival of IPL. Which means, a much bigger advantage to Pak cricket. The scope of success is HUGE if PSL raises up to become the rival of IPL.
Having a few of top Pak players joining IPL for a couple of millions of dollars is stabbing PSL in the back.
 
Pak players going to IPL means the death of PSL.

For a small charm, we are going to lose out on a much bigger opportunity.

Right now PSL is in the best position to become the only true rival of IPL. Which means, a much bigger advantage to Pak cricket. The scope of success is HUGE if PSL raises up to become the rival of IPL.
Having a few of top Pak players joining IPL for a couple of millions of dollars is stabbing PSL in the back.

They should honestly look at an Asian premier league

PSL, BPL and SLPL all merging with IPL.
 
They should honestly look at an Asian premier league

PSL, BPL and SLPL all merging with IPL.

South Asians working together? :)) Never gonna happen bro.

Especially working with India. Anything happens or border these people get too emotional from their media and they decide to pull out
 
I have not read through this thread so I am sure someone will havce already made this point.

Pakistani players have not been excluded from the IPL for cricketing reasons. Therefore the match result is irrelevant. Pakistani cricketers have been excluded from the IPL because of reasons entirely unrelated to cricket - the political situation between both countries.

So even if Pakistan became the greatest cricket team in the history of mankind, until and unless the political situation changes, Pakistani cricketers will continue to be excluded from the IPL and there will be no Pakistan-India bilateral cricket.
 
They should honestly look at an Asian premier league

PSL, BPL and SLPL all merging with IPL.

Naw.
Don't expect this from BCCI/India, and don't want it to happen either.

From the pure business perspective right now, there is a growing demand of seeing Pak stars in the T20 leagues. Much of that demand also comes from the Indian cricket fans. And that's where the money and the business is.

So for now, anyone who wants to watch Pak stars in action in the T20 leagues, they MUST subscribe to PSL. This means more viewership, more business, more money, and very, very importantly, more exposure of young and emerging Pak players to the international cricket world. (This can't be achieved if a few Pak players join IPL).

On the other hand, if a few top Pak players join IPL, then who is going to watch PSL? The demand of watching Pak players will be met by watching IPL. There won't be much of demand left for PSL.

The top Pak players (Shaheen, Babar, Rizwan etc), are our absolute trump cards to raise PSL business to the next level. And we must take advantage of it.
If you want to watch them in action (and millions do want to), then subscribe to PSL.

I personally feel that Pak players and PCB must refuse to join IPL even if they receive a bombardment of invitations.

The BCCI if does invite pak players for IPL, then they will do it for the sole purpose of choking it's competition.
It's just like, a bigger company buying a small company and firing 50% of it's staff.
 
England never claimed their county circuits were the best, or promoted their cricket as finance, or forbid their players from playing in other leagues, etc. So your comparison with England never winning anything is sheer utter nonsense.

India along with IPL fanbois continue to claim the IPL is the best, ‘bigger’ than the ODI world cup, rammed with the world’s best players (mostly retirees/rejects), well sunshine, 13 years on, and India have not won a single T20 WC, cos the reality is IPL is a mediocre league designed just for money and entertainment.

Irony is, India did win the inaugural WC before IPL was a figment on anyone’s imagination. Must be those boozy post IPL match parties ever since.

IPL owners/BCCI or proper IPL followers never boasted IPL as the best, did wonders to cricket, etc, over the top statements. It is the media and some crazy fans (same type of fans who think India are scared of playing Pakistan based on what happened few days back & CT 2017).

But telling that IPL has not done anything favor to Indian players is wrong! Indian team was never so professional, athletic and had this kind of killer instinct! Even if it shows more in "test" format. In fact if this is what the good has happened to Indian cricket, i.e., doing so well in "tests" even if it was not intended to be so, as you say a T20 league should have ensured winning every single T20 world cup, but what's happening actually is the "test team" is growing stronger to stronger, if this is the outcome of it, we will joyfully accept this! Because Indian test team never did so well, even when its international players were playing regularly in Ranji & other first class cricket (and even England counties)!
 
Naah, we're good.

An IPL contract for some of our players simply isn't worth all the B.S that will go along with it.
 
Lol what? IPL was created to help West Indies cricket or Indian cricket? I thought IPL used to prepare players for high pressure LOI matches? :inti

You cannot prepare players like that! It is not a factory to prepare players! If so, even America and China would have prepared players in some factory or laboratory and sent them to play cricket and acquired Indian Market!

It is just to give that platform!

I know you love to see those scenes back (India play non-stop against Pakistan and lose to them badly for umpteen times. I am sure you were very happy the other day!) Indian players should never get that professional edge, financial security & simulated tough situations! They should just go there and collapse like scapegoats playing for their motherland! Maa ki kasam!
 
You cannot prepare players like that! It is not a factory to prepare players! If so, even America and China would have prepared players in some factory or laboratory and sent them to play cricket and acquired Indian Market!

It is just to give that platform!

I know you love to see those scenes back (India play non-stop against Pakistan and lose to them badly for umpteen times. I am sure you were very happy the other day!) Indian players should never get that professional edge, financial security & simulated tough situations! They should just go there and collapse like scapegoats playing for their motherland! Maa ki kasam!

Not the first time I am saying this to you but it will be better if you stop assuming things about me and present it as reality. Your mind is all messed up. Take a break from forums for a while it will be better for you because there is no end to your imagination here lol. Coming back to IPL, if I am not wrong it was started to help Indian cricket not to show off the power and money of India? Unfortunately that is the only thing IPL fans can show to fans of other teams because trophy cabinet has been empty for a while now. :inti
 
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