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Pakistan should always have a FOREIGN Head Coach

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Our local coaches will always have their axe to grind with someone. Local coaches have always proven to be cancerous and problematic for the dressing room. The communication barrier that we keep hearing on is overestimated. Hire a 24/7 translator for players who have trouble understanding the foreign coach.
 
Our local coaches will always have their axe to grind with someone. Local coaches have always proven to be cancerous and problematic for the dressing room. The communication barrier that we keep hearing on is overestimated. Hire a 24/7 translator for players who have trouble understanding the foreign coach.

100% Agree - until we find a Pakistani Coach who's a proven success.
 
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Why?

So we get whitewashed at home in Tests? Go on our longest losing streak in ODIs?

And then get to hear "We're a proud team. We hate losing" after every freaking match?

Okay.
 
Misbah is more clueless than Emery for Arsenal .

He has no idea of who to select , how to coach but instead is playing with Pakistan cricket like a school kid in a chemistry lab !

Won’t be watching any more until he is in some sort of museum.
 
Misbah is more clueless than Emery for Arsenal .

He has no idea of who to select , how to coach but instead is playing with Pakistan cricket like a school kid in a chemistry lab !

Won’t be watching any more until he is in some sort of museum.

His career associated with Pakistan cricket should have ended after that Mohali innings. That's where all the damage he's done truly stems from.
 
His career associated with Pakistan cricket should have ended after that Mohali innings. That's where all the damage he's done truly stems from.

The pre morning breakfast forward defence was bad enough but now we have to endure his dopy selections every match & torture for 3days (won’t last 5) because he is coaching a different sport out there .

How can Pak fans sit through this comedy ? Lol
 
There are a few domestic coaches who'll never get their chance. To say Pakistan shouldn't go with local is wrong
 
You can hire Anil Kumble , he is a foreigner.
Good coach , he had issues with Virat but with Azhar Ali he will succeed
 
Pakistani coaches seem to be totally incapable of selecting players and planning for tours with any consideration of data, previous history or logic.

It's all based on likes and dislikes. Just throw enough mud against the wall and hope something sticks. And this is on the watch of "new and improved" PCB.
 
Why?

So we get whitewashed at home in Tests? Go on our longest losing streak in ODIs?

And then get to hear "We're a proud team. We hate losing" after every freaking match?

Okay.

Hey with Misbah at helm this is a huge possibly. I would start listing excuses for those defeats.
 
Pakistani coaches seem to be totally incapable of selecting players and planning for tours with any consideration of data, previous history or logic.

It's all based on likes and dislikes. Just throw enough mud against the wall and hope something sticks. And this is on the watch of "new and improved" PCB.

I always said not fit for purpose.
 
Dean Jones could have been lot better than Misbah. He is also very keen follower of Pak cricket. Any foreign coach would be an upgrade of Misbah
 
Before Misbah’s tenure started, my view was ‘Mickey should not have been replaced’
Three months in to Misbah’s tenure I have a more nuanced view - ‘Mickey shouldn’t have been replaced by Misbah who will basically entrench acceptance of mediocrity.
 
We did but dimwits in and out of Pakistan wanted a change for the sake of change. Stupidity of some people knows no bounds!
 
It is time to do away with the fraud that is foreign head coaches.

A country like Pakistan where majority of the cricketers do not speak even half decent English, it is absolutely nonsense to have English speaking foreign head coaches. It doesn’t matter how good they are. They are not the right representatives of Pakistan cricket.
 
myth of foreign coaches is actually harming Pakistan cricket.. when players can't communicate with them how can they express the issues they're facing? Most players try to avoid them so they won't have to speak English.. so why not trust ur own ex players to give them a role of coaching?
 
myth of foreign coaches is actually harming Pakistan cricket.. when players can't communicate with them how can they express the issues they're facing? Most players try to avoid them so they won't have to speak English.. so why not trust ur own ex players to give them a role of coaching?

We have tried Misbah ul Haq, Waqar Younis, Saqlain Mushtaq, Mohd Yousaf, Hafeez, Umar Gul, Saeed Ajmal, Aqib Javed e.t.c.

Results have been the same. Our best success has been under foreign coaches i.e. Bob Woolmer, Mickey Arthur e.t.c.

Let's be honest, comparisons with India are moot, Pakistani local and even international Pakistani players are not fit or good as coaches, they lack the tactical, critical, professional thinking skills. Foreign coaches will atleast be impartial, honest and professional when it comes to their decisions
 
We have tried Misbah ul Haq, Waqar Younis, Saqlain Mushtaq, Mohd Yousaf, Hafeez, Umar Gul, Saeed Ajmal, Aqib Javed e.t.c.

Results have been the same. Our best success has been under foreign coaches i.e. Bob Woolmer, Mickey Arthur e.t.c.

Let's be honest, comparisons with India are moot, Pakistani local and even international Pakistani players are not fit or good as coaches, they lack the tactical, critical, professional thinking skills. Foreign coaches will atleast be impartial, honest and professional when it comes to their decisions


Bro none of the Pakistan coaches ever lost a home test series to Bangladesh either.
 
Bro none of the Pakistan coaches ever lost a home test series to Bangladesh either.

PCB has made a decision to appoint Gillespie and Kirsten for 3 years. They should honor the contracts and give the coaches time to make a difference. No international coach can turn things around immediately. The PCB will become a laughing stock and will struggle to find future applicants if Kirsten and Gillespie are shown the door unprofessionally and prematurely.
 
Been saying of ages, national team does not need a coach. It needs a strong Manager and support staff. PCB can save hundreds of millions and invest on kids.

If someone needs a coach after coming into the national team they dont deserve to be in the national team.
 
It is time to do away with the fraud that is foreign head coaches.

A country like Pakistan where majority of the cricketers do not speak even half decent English, it is absolutely nonsense to have English speaking foreign head coaches. It doesn’t matter how good they are. They are not the right representatives of Pakistan cricket.
Yep.

I don't understand what PCB sees in Gillespie.. He means well but with the language and cultural issues it becomes extremely difficult for foreign coaches to work with Pakistani players.

Additionally there is the aspect of not having the willingness to stake everything - that comes when you have a motive above getting just a pay cheque and a bonus, it's basically the love for one's country, the self respect. In a situation that is riddled with corruption, factions , nepotism, favoritism and all, and above jt politically compromised, it requires significant self conviction and passio for the country to prevail. Can't expect someone like Gillespie to have that. They are here for the dollars snd some CV material and not much else.

Already stupid tactics on view like importing an Aussie curator and asking him to prepare Aussie like pitches that makes no sense And on top of it they are selecting utterly ineffective trundlers who bowl in 120s.

No coach can do anything in this toxic setup that Pakistani cricket is right now in
 
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Been saying of ages, national team does not need a coach. It needs a strong Manager and support staff. PCB can save hundreds of millions and invest on kids.

If someone needs a coach after coming into the national team they dont deserve to be in the national team.
Precisely this.

India made the cultural shift to being a dominant team primarily under Ravi Shastri who was more of a manager than a coach. He hired specialist coaches under him who did the "coaching" part and left Shaz to deal with strategy and direction.

Dravid inherited an already mature team but failed to do well for a majority of his coaching career because he's not a great man manager like Shastri but as luck would have it, India won a world cup at the very tail end of his coaching career. But overall he was not someone with a strong vision.

Gambhir looks to me again more of Shastri type albeit a bit more strongman type - this could be useful when India is transitioning into a younger team.
 
PCB has made a decision to appoint Gillespie and Kirsten for 3 years. They should honor the contracts and give the coaches time to make a difference. No international coach can turn things around immediately. The PCB will become a laughing stock and will struggle to find future applicants if Kirsten and Gillespie are shown the door unprofessionally and prematurely.

During this 3 time, PCB must asd junior Pakistan origin coaches work with them and learn coaching from them. Ideally in 3 years time the local coach should be ready to take command.

The obsession with foreign coaches in Pakistan is weird. We too tried the same and it’s not always worked. Frankly speaking a lot of the young guys don’t come from metro cities and they would feel more comfy with a Rahul Dravid than a Duncan Fletcher.
 
I don't why an Indian coach has not been given the job aside from the politics. I was watching some of the post match interviews and most of the Bangla players speak good English so it makes sense to have a foreign coaching set up.

Pakistan players don't and it's lost in translation. Naseem said he was struggling to understand the new coaching set up. Gilly won't last his contract so the next coach must speak the language.
 
Pakistani fans are hard to please and I am glad the PCB independently makes decisions. Fans are neither happy with a foreign or a local coach. When Saqlain was preaching his Qudrat ka Nizam crap, everyone was crying for a foreign professional coach and in just the first tenures of Kirsten and Gillespie everyone is crying about language barrier and lack of local understaking.

Please give me a break, there is no such thing as language barrier, english is a universal language and i find it funny that Naseem complains about language barrier with the foreign coaches but has no qualms signing up and playing in foreign leagues.

PCB needs to get strict and tight with the players i.e. PCB makes the decisions on cricketing matters, affairs, coaching personnel, domestic cricket, the players only job is to focus on their games and to work with whoever the PCB deems fit to run the team, if they can't do that then they can take a hike.
 
Pakistani fans are hard to please and I am glad the PCB independently makes decisions. Fans are neither happy with a foreign or a local coach. When Saqlain was preaching his Qudrat ka Nizam crap, everyone was crying for a foreign professional coach and in just the first tenures of Kirsten and Gillespie everyone is crying about language barrier and lack of local understaking.

Please give me a break, there is no such thing as language barrier, english is a universal language and i find it funny that Naseem complains about language barrier with the foreign coaches but has no qualms signing up and playing in foreign leagues.

PCB needs to get strict and tight with the players i.e. PCB makes the decisions on cricketing matters, affairs, coaching personnel, domestic cricket, the players only job is to focus on their games and to work with whoever the PCB deems fit to run the team, if they can't do that then they can take a hike.
All this mess started when we removed mickey and hired Useless Misbah.. ever since Pakistan has been in downfall. All blame goes to corrupt Misbah
 
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