Pakistan team has no one to blame for this situation but itself

[Madplayer]

When the tournament started everyone expected Pakistan team to smash the west indians into oblivion. Instead they lost in a humiliating fashion against the windies team who would later fail to win even 1 match. This is why every single game matters. That heavy defeat has come to bite Pakistan in the latter stages of the tournament where in all probability it would come down to the NRR between the 4th and the 5th team. And Pakistan's NRR is disastrous due to that 1st game.

Pakistan even lost to Australia after getting into positions from where they could have won the match. That has also played a role here.

Finally, Pakistan couldnt dish a heavy phainty to even Afghanistan which would have improved the NRR of the team. Neither to NZ nor to South Africa.

You can cry all you want, blame weather for washout against Srilanka, blame India for not playing well today etc. But in the end it all comes down to what you have yourself done. Pakistan should have done better to not be dependent on other teams' results.

 

[Abu_Hamza]

[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] bro u have put one of the best threads. Some fools want India to win WC for PAKISTAN..

 

[RainStopsPlay]

Pak should have beaten India and taken those 2 points but sadly the Pak fans are mocking India for not winning a game against some other opposition.

 

[Asim_khan]

Totally agree. To have a negative run rate at this stage is scandalous and we don't deserve to be anywhere near qualification for the semi finals. Success at this stage will once again mask the terrible state of our cricketing structure.

If I was a neutral I'd want England to go through, for one they're the hosts and secondly, and it pains me to say it, but they're also a much more dynamic team, that I'd pay to watch, cos aside from a few bright sparks, we've been absolutely dreadful.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

I felt asleep during India's batting, can anyone tell me why are my Pakistani friends so angry? Their statuses on facebook is akhtar like

 

[Savak]

Lol at this thread, its not impossible for Pakistan to get into the top 4. In 1992 Pak were dependent on Australia beating the WI to go through

 

[Syed1]

Pak ----> 3 losses
Eng ----> 3 losses
NZ -----> 2 losses (potentially 3 if they lose to Eng)


Pak beat both Eng and NZ


But experts here are like Eng and NZ deserve to go through and Pak deserve to go home

 

[Theo_14]

Chill out man.

They lost against WI because WI were the better team.

SL game - couldn’t do much about that.

Should have won against Australia but Australia have shown ability to win despite other team being in a better position ie (Aus v NZ)

Considering our ODI rankings - we have over achieved.

 

[Madplayer]

Lol at this thread, its not impossible for Pakistan to get into the top 4. In 1992 Pak were dependent on Australia beating the WI to go through

I didnt write anywhere that Pakistan is out already. Just this situation of uncertainity and negativity.

 

[GreenKhan]

After 9 games , luck evens it self out so those teams who finish in the top 4 deserve to be there .

Pakistan’s disaster against West Indies is ultimately going to affect them .

Scenario is simple . If England beat New Zealand , England go through and if Pakistan beat Bangladesh they will finish on 11 points with the kiwis but due to the hammering our runrate took against the Windies we go out on NRR.

The most favourable scenario would be New Zealand to beat England but I just can’t see that happening .

 

[KingKhanWC]

POT decade.....for stating the obvious

 

[Madplayer]

Pak ----> 3 losses
Eng ----> 3 losses
NZ -----> 2 losses (potentially 3 if they lose to Eng)


Pak beat both Eng and NZ


But experts here are like Eng and NZ deserve to go through and Pak deserve to go home

The one who deserves to go home WILL go home whether its based on NRR or number of wins.

 

[Technics 1210]

Oh please, if England lose to NZ on Wednesday then it will be England - tournament favourites - relying on another result to qualify. Same boat as Pakistan right now!

From another POV, If Pakistan and NZ end up with 11 points, then Carlos Brathwaite last shot vs NZ will be the reason why Pakistan are out, not NRR. OR had Afghanistan beaten India, then Pakistan route would have been easier. Or had Pakistan beaten Australia we'd be in the top 4 right now! The retrospective analysis is endless!

These things happen in a tournament! Enjoy the tournament and move on!

 

[ethan hunt]

Sarfraz's decision to chase against India was the worst for me.
If Newzealand lose to England and go through than surely they's be the luckiest of the lot because of the favourable rain result.

 

[Madplayer]

POT decade.....for stating the obvious

The obvious isnt obvious for a lot of people. It had to be put out there. Read the replies to this thread.

 

[JibranAnsari]

I think pakistan have a lot better than what was expected of them before the start of the tournament , we werent even sure about a single win and i must say that pakistan have done well. Should have won against west indies though but no one expected us to win us against england so it evened out.

 

[Markhor]

Our pacers bar Amir took too long to adjust their lengths for English conditions despite being in the country for 2 months.

The new ball bowling v Australia on a damp, green tinged pitch was diabolical.

You can't keep banking on the notion that "we are slow starters, but once we get going we are unstoppable bla bla bla" - you need to be on it from game one.

 

[Energy]

To be brutally honest, Pakistan has had some luck also with Australia beating England and New Zealand and Sri Lanka beating England out of nowhere. Australia has again done a huge favour by thrashing New Zealand by 80+ runs.

We need to keep the belief that we have a 100+ run win in us. And we will know exactly what we require after Wednesday.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Guys calm down. Pakistan is not gonna win against Bangladesh.

 

[Zhasan]

No the format is to be blamed as it allows for manipulation and whoever dispenses with an innate integrity to actually manipulate to spite their perceived enemies/foes...

 

[Fahdi]

Yes!

Thank-you. And it's absurd to think India would want us out. As far as they are concerned they needed to win this in order to play Pakistan in the semis, a much weaker team which has a mental block against them i n world cups.

 

[PakLFC]

We can blame the weather. Would have been a point ahead of England had we defeated the Sri Lankans in the rained off match. This is not an excuse but a fact, no England match was victim of poor weather.

 

[Technics 1210]

If by Pakistan win the WC, we will then look back at the IF moments, and call them destiny.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Pak ----> 3 losses
Eng ----> 3 losses
NZ -----> 2 losses (potentially 3 if they lose to Eng)


Pak beat both Eng and NZ


But experts here are like Eng and NZ deserve to go through and Pak deserve to go home

No experts will NOT decide who deserves to go home.

The CONSOLATION for you is Pakistan can still qualify if England lose and if England win, then NRR will decide who deserves to go home.

Not experts or the team winning against NZ in 49th over and losing to WEST indies ironically by 13th over.

 

[Technics 1210]

No experts will NOT decide who deserves to go home.

The CONSOLATION for you is Pakistan can still qualify if England lose and if England win, then NRR will decide who deserves to go home.

Not experts or the team winning against NZ in 49th over and losing to WEST indies ironically by 13th over.

No, it's the number of wins that decide, NRR is the second tie breaker.

 

[JibranAnsari]

To be brutally honest, Pakistan has had some luck also with Australia beating England and New Zealand and Sri Lanka beating England out of nowhere. Australia has again done a huge favour by thrashing New Zealand by 80+ runs.

We need to keep the belief that we have a 100+ run win in us. And we will know exactly what we require after Wednesday.

even if nz lose by 200 runs and pakistan win by 150 , the run rate gap wont be covered.

 

[Asif321]

We shouldn’t have lost to WI
Easy chase was on vs Aussies but we messed up
Losing huge margin vs ind
Making mockery of chase vs Afghanistan

We probably will go out on NRR it will be sad but that’s what we deserve

 

[life4smile]

1992 script is working perfectly call me optimistic or whatever but here are the updates after today’s match stat as per 1992

1992 - England vs India - Winner England
2019 - England vs India - Winner England

1992- England vs NeaZealand - Winner NZ
2019 -England vs NZ - Winner will be NZ


Pakistan is not just in for final 4 but Pakistan will face InSHAllah Australia in Semifinal


India will face nZ in semifinal and will face Pakistan in Final on July 14

 

[Inswinging Yorker]

This is one of the most sensible post of the day. Pakistan have only themselves to blame for their current position. Suggestions that India lost to keep Pakistan from qualifying is so childish. Pakistan themselves have already done enough crap to keep them out of the final four...no one else to blame if they don't.

 

[Mamoon]

In spite of what I have said over the last few weeks, I genuinely feel sorry for Pakistani fans. They deserve better for all the emotional investment and passion that they have for the game.

I am happy to apologize to anyone who has been hurt by my statements, but the reality is that we do not deserve to qualify for the semifinals based on how we have played in the World Cup and how we have played in the last two years.

After winning the Champions in bizarre circumstances, we thought we were invincible and did nothing to improve. We paid no heed to the 5-0 whitewash in New Zealand that exposed our frailties. We were happy to bash minnows before the disastrous Asia Cup opened our eyes, but then it was too late.

We should have invested in a proper spinner instead of a mediocre showboat like Shadab who is only good for theatrics in the field. We wasted two years forcefully trying to convert him and Faheem into all-rounders.

We should have also taken note of Sarfaraz shying away from responsibility as an individual player but we paid no heed.

Hafeez and Malik are easy targets, but as the PSL shows us every year, the batting resources are quite shallow, but we do have spinners in our system who are comfortably better than Shadab.

Furthermore, we had the best possible preparation for the World Cup. 5 ODIs vs England in England - it doesn’t get better than that, but we still managed to get humiliated against West Indies in the opening game which completely ruined our NRR.

We also choked vs Australia when we were in control, and we made a meal of a relatively straightforward chase against Afghanistan.

You cannot waddle into a World Cup as a 6th ranked team with a 13 match losing streak, hoping that everything will fall in place and you will start to magically perform.

You have to respect the game and continuously strive to improve. We didn’t, and this is the outcome.

 

[life4smile]

Today Srilanka is out of Race Tuesday it will be Bangladesh , Wednesday it will be England and Friday Pakistan will play a hunting game after defeated Bangladesh ( whose pride won’t be active after worldcup exit )

 

[geraltofrivia]

1992 script is working perfectly call me optimistic or whatever but here are the updates after today’s match stat as per 1992

1992 - England vs India - Winner England
2019 - England vs India - Winner England

1992- England vs NeaZealand - Winner NZ
2019 -England vs NZ - Winner will be NZ


Pakistan is not just in for final 4 but Pakistan will face InSHAllah Australia in Semifinal


India will face nZ in semifinal and will face Pakistan in Final on July 14

lol

aus vs ind winner 1992 - aus
aus vs ind winner 2019 - ind

sa vs ind 1992 - sa
sa vs ind 2019 - ind

 

[Dr_Bassim]

In spite of what I have said over the last few weeks, I genuinely feel sorry for Pakistani fans. They deserve better for all the emotional investment and passion that they have for the game.

I am happy to apologize to anyone who has been hurt by my statements, but the reality is that we do not deserve to qualify for the semifinals based on how we have played in the World Cup and how we have played in the last two years.

After winning the Champions in bizarre circumstances, we thought we were invincible and did nothing to improve. We paid no heed to the 5-0 whitewash in New Zealand that exposed our frailties. We were happy to bash minnows before the disastrous Asia Cup opened our eyes, but then it was too late.

We should have invested in a proper spinner instead of a mediocre showboat like Shadab who is only good for theatrics in the field. We wasted two years forcefully trying to convert him and Faheem into all-rounders.

We should have also taken note of Sarfaraz shying away from responsibility as an individual player but we paid no heed.

Hafeez and Malik are easy targets, but as the PSL shows us every year, the batting resources are quite shallow, but we do have spinners in our system who are comfortably better than Shadab.

Furthermore, we had the best possible preparation for the World Cup. 5 ODIs vs England in England - it doesn’t get better than that, but we still managed to get humiliated against West Indies in the opening game which completely ruined our NRR.

We also choked vs Australia when we were in control, and we made a meal of a relatively straightforward chase against Afghanistan.

You cannot waddle into a World Cup as a 6th ranked team with a 13 match losing streak, hoping that everything will fall in place and you will start to magically perform.

You have to respect the game and continuously strive to improve. We didn’t, and this is the outcome.

But we arent out yet.

England can lose you know.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

1992 script is working perfectly call me optimistic or whatever but here are the updates after today’s match stat as per 1992

1992 - England vs India - Winner England
2019 - England vs India - Winner England

1992- England vs NeaZealand - Winner NZ
2019 -England vs NZ - Winner will be NZ


Pakistan is not just in for final 4 but Pakistan will face InSHAllah Australia in Semifinal


India will face nZ in semifinal and will face Pakistan in Final on July 14

I will take Pakistan being in semis but please NO 92 comparisons.

 

[Mamoon]

But we arent out yet.

England can lose you know.

It is not happening. England’s consistency and hard work over the last four years was bound to eventually shine. They will beat New Zealand and we will go home. It is time for us to get real. The #1 team was also going to beat the #6 team in this shootout.

 

[Hasan]

Pak can still qualify:

1. NZ beat Eng - out of Pak’s hands

2. Beat Bang with massive margin of NZ lose to Eng. well within Pak’s hands.

The second scenario will mean Pak qualify on merit.

 

[life4smile]

Whenever we mention Pakistan , never forget Pakistan has a Almighty given XFactor with them , forget sports , each and every aspect of life you may bleed Pakistan but you can never finish Pakistan Only country of world who on paper seems so fragile but when they strike they can wipe out super powers out of no where

 

[unitedkush]

We can blame the weather. Would have been a point ahead of England had we defeated the Sri Lankans in the rained off match. This is not an excuse but a fact, no England match was victim of poor weather.

SL are no push overs, I don't see how anyone can say with certainty that Pakistan would've won the match. Besides your NRR would be still atrocious. Englands is 1.000 while Pakistan is -0.796.

Pakistan have no one to blame but themselves, there's little reason why take 220 chase to final overs in both matches.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

It is not happening. England’s consistency and hard work over the last four years was bound to eventually shine. They will beat New Zealand and we will go home. It is time for us to get real. The #1 team was also going to beat the #6 team in this shootout.

I dont know about England, but what do u think about average Australia?

I back them to win the World Cup.

 

[Ab Fan]

Hoping England loses to NZ and the top 4 by the end stands as:-

Australia- 16
India- 15
NZ- 13
Pak- 11

So, India to face NZ in semis.

Deep down, I know the result will be:-

Australia- 16
India- 15
England- 12
NZ- 11

So, India will face England in that case and the winner will probably go one-on-one vs Australia.

I would have said Pakistan if it was NZ or England but I think Australia will definitely beat them in semi finals because former knows how to win games and won't mess up in a semi final stage.

 

[Mamoon]

I dont know about England, but what do u think about average Australia?

I back them to win the World Cup.

I am still backing England to go all the way.

 

[life4smile]

If England loses on Wednesday , Pakistan vs India is confirmed Final

 

[Ab Fan]

Hoping England loses to NZ and the top 4 by the end stands as:-

Australia- 16
India- 15
NZ- 13
Pak- 11

So, India to face NZ in semis.

Deep down, I know the result will be:-

Australia- 16
India- 15
England- 12
NZ- 11

So, India will face England in that case and the winner will probably go one-on-one vs Australia.

I would have said Pakistan if it was NZ or England but I think Australia will definitely beat them in semi finals because former knows how to win games and won't mess up in a semi final stage.

@Mods, you can delete the last para. Got confused NZ with Pak.

 

[Technics 1210]

Pak can still qualify:

1. NZ beat Eng - out of Pak’s hands

2. Beat Bang with massive margin of NZ lose to Eng. well within Pak’s hands.

The second scenario will mean Pak qualify on merit.

Wrong. If NZ beat ENG, then Pak just has to beat BNG.

 

[PakLFC]

SL are no push overs, I don't see how anyone can say with certainty that Pakistan would've won the match. Besides your NRR would be still atrocious. Englands is 1.000 while Pakistan is -0.796.

Pakistan have no one to blame but themselves, there's little reason why take 220 chase to final overs in both matches.

Sure Sri Lanka could have won. The point is Pak would rather had been knocked out properly then die wondering. Despite the poor run rate we would have gone through had we won that match. It would be much easier to accept being eliminated had we lost that match instead of it not being played. Had Sri Lanka won they'd be probably still be in the race to qualify so it is also unfair on them.

 

[Titan24]

Ofcourse Pak is itself to be blamed. I dont think anyone thinks otherwise.

Rain in Srl match was bit of a set back as Pak would have been the favourites for the match but obviously they are no pushovers. However if that match would have happened then you never know.

 

[Technics 1210]

It is not happening. England’s consistency and hard work over the last four years was bound to eventually shine. They will beat New Zealand and we will go home. It is time for us to get real. The #1 team was also going to beat the #6 team in this shootout.

Except the #6 team did beat the #1 team in this World Cup. Pakistan vs England, in case you have forgotten.

It's time you got real.

 

[nads_rocks]

Great post, I said the same in couple other posts and I am being criticised of being a fake fan.

I'm going to make it simple.

If you are in top 4 you deserve to be there because you have performed and did your nation proud and your players have done justice to wearing those colours.

If you are in top 4 because you pray for miracles or want handouts and freebies at the hands of other teams then you don't deserve to be in the top 4 or win the world cup.

Its simple.

Other teams didnt look to be in do or die situations, they won their games they earnt their points and they earnt their positive run rate to be in the top 4 or contenders for it.
[MENTION=2068]syed[/MENTION]_1 stay away from my post because you don't like reading fake expert analysis so stay in your miracle working bubble.

If Pakistan were serious about winning the world cup they would not have been out for 105 against a team we are prone to beating...
We could have and should have beaten England by a bigger margin especially after the total we posted but we didnt.
The washout didnt help but other teams have also had wash out or no result games...
We lost a winning game chasing well against Australia, that was our game to win but we did what we do best and lose from winning positions.
We got SCHOOLED by india, a shameful and embarassing loss that was.
We beat a team that is depleted and weak this world cup that being South Africa.
We scraped by against New Zealand when our best players of spin decided to take the game to the wire. Again didn't help the NRR

Then the opportunity came to completely demolish Afghans and chase that small total of 228 before the 40th over but OUR BEST PLAYERS OF SPIN and our Senior magician of playing spin Hafeez crumbled...

We took that to the last 2 balls where most teams would have cruised this with a 7 wicket and 12 overs win.

Then we celebrate like we've won the damn world cup.

Hit the streets, honk the cars, block the roads because we beat Afghanistan?

Our semi-final spot is not secure the world cup is not secure but we are celebrating because beating Afghans was a big milestone.

We drop catch after catch
we leak runs after runs
We do not take the attack to the opposition.
We do not attack the batsman
We do not play good field placements.
The ball is in the air we do not dive for it or run after it to catch.

We do not show intent, attack in our cricket or play positive or instill fear or improve on any weaknesses.

So why should this team deserve to be handed or gifted a semi final spot ahead of more deserving ones!

This England team today smashed Afghan spinners to everywhere and posted 397 runs we barely just scraped by on 228 run chase.

This England team took the attack to Indian spinners and scored 338 which is a winnable target these days and defended it by taking their opportunities, stopping singles, stopping the boundaries and catching!!

Our players smile when they drop a catch.
Our players fluff a run out.
Our players refuse to dive or get their clothes dirty.

In a game which is monumental and of importance. You do what it takes to win and if you know you need to improve your NRR you do that.

Don't blame pitch
Don't blame conditions
Don't blame lame excuses.

You are an international player representing your country, if you are worthy of being in the team then you adapt and you play on any pitch at any time in any condition.

Its as Simple as that!

 

[Mamoon]

Except the #6 team did beat the #1 team in this World Cup. Pakistan vs England, in case you have forgotten.

It's time you got real.

One game means nothing. Over 9 matches, England were always going to do better. It is time for you to get real and accept that we are going home before the knockouts and we have only got ourselves to blame.

 

[Mamoon]

Great post, I said the same in couple other posts and I am being criticised of being a fake fan.

I'm going to make it simple.

If you are in top 4 you deserve to be there because you have performed and did your nation proud and your players have done justice to wearing those colours.

If you are in top 4 because you pray for miracles or want handouts and freebies at the hands of other teams then you don't deserve to be in the top 4 or win the world cup.

Its simple.

Other teams didnt look to be in do or die situations, they won their games they earnt their points and they earnt their positive run rate to be in the top 4 or contenders for it.
[MENTION=2068]syed[/MENTION]_1 stay away from my post because you don't like reading fake expert analysis so stay in your miracle working bubble.

If Pakistan were serious about winning the world cup they would not have been out for 105 against a team we are prone to beating...
We could have and should have beaten England by a bigger margin especially after the total we posted but we didnt.
The washout didnt help but other teams have also had wash out or no result games...
We lost a winning game chasing well against Australia, that was our game to win but we did what we do best and lose from winning positions.
We got SCHOOLED by india, a shameful and embarassing loss that was.
We beat a team that is depleted and weak this world cup that being South Africa.
We scraped by against New Zealand when our best players of spin decided to take the game to the wire. Again didn't help the NRR

Then the opportunity came to completely demolish Afghans and chase that small total of 228 before the 40th over but OUR BEST PLAYERS OF SPIN and our Senior magician of playing spin Hafeez crumbled...

We took that to the last 2 balls where most teams would have cruised this with a 7 wicket and 12 overs win.

Then we celebrate like we've won the damn world cup.

Hit the streets, honk the cars, block the roads because we beat Afghanistan?

Our semi-final spot is not secure the world cup is not secure but we are celebrating because beating Afghans was a big milestone.

We drop catch after catch
we leak runs after runs
We do not take the attack to the opposition.
We do not attack the batsman
We do not play good field placements.
The ball is in the air we do not dive for it or run after it to catch.

We do not show intent, attack in our cricket or play positive or instill fear or improve on any weaknesses.

So why should this team deserve to be handed or gifted a semi final spot ahead of more deserving ones!

This England team today smashed Afghan spinners to everywhere and posted 397 runs we barely just scraped by on 228 run chase.

This England team took the attack to Indian spinners and scored 338 which is a winnable target these days and defended it by taking their opportunities, stopping singles, stopping the boundaries and catching!!

Our players smile when they drop a catch.
Our players fluff a run out.
Our players refuse to dive or get their clothes dirty.

In a game which is monumental and of importance. You do what it takes to win and if you know you need to improve your NRR you do that.

Don't blame pitch
Don't blame conditions
Don't blame lame excuses.

You are an international player representing your country, if you are worthy of being in the team then you adapt and you play on any pitch at any time in any condition.

Its as Simple as that!

Brilliantly put. Unfortunately, it is the corrupt 92 mentality that is ruining our cricket, and that mentality got another boost two years ago in the form of the Champions Trophy. Success is a process and you have to work hard and think long-term. We don’t do any of that, and we expect to perform miracles when the moment comes.

 

[zee-za-man]

Good reply to those Pakistani fools who were backing India.

Would never root for indian team even if Pakistan is benefiting from that.

England is a much better team than Pakistan and deserves to be in the final 4. Pakistan has not won one match convincingly. This batting lineup was doomed to fail.

 

[mgtow]

Getting all out in 105 was the huge factor. Even if we lost, but If we scored healthy runs, we could be ahead by netpoint if it wasn’t for 105. Win or lose is part of game but on West Indies match, Pakistan batting line caused the major upset which despite of constant wins cannot make up for it.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

how do i block this mamoon, really depressing dude that loves to annoy people.

I feel sorry for his wife who has to live with such a negative person..

 

[life4smile]

Great post, I said the same in couple other posts and I am being criticised of being a fake fan.

I'm going to make it simple.

If you are in top 4 you deserve to be there because you have performed and did your nation proud and your players have done justice to wearing those colours.

If you are in top 4 because you pray for miracles or want handouts and freebies at the hands of other teams then you don't deserve to be in the top 4 or win the world cup.

Its simple.

Other teams didnt look to be in do or die situations, they won their games they earnt their points and they earnt their positive run rate to be in the top 4 or contenders for it.
[MENTION=2068]syed[/MENTION]_1 stay away from my post because you don't like reading fake expert analysis so stay in your miracle working bubble.

If Pakistan were serious about winning the world cup they would not have been out for 105 against a team we are prone to beating...
We could have and should have beaten England by a bigger margin especially after the total we posted but we didnt.
The washout didnt help but other teams have also had wash out or no result games...
We lost a winning game chasing well against Australia, that was our game to win but we did what we do best and lose from winning positions.
We got SCHOOLED by india, a shameful and embarassing loss that was.
We beat a team that is depleted and weak this world cup that being South Africa.
We scraped by against New Zealand when our best players of spin decided to take the game to the wire. Again didn't help the NRR

Then the opportunity came to completely demolish Afghans and chase that small total of 228 before the 40th over but OUR BEST PLAYERS OF SPIN and our Senior magician of playing spin Hafeez crumbled...

We took that to the last 2 balls where most teams would have cruised this with a 7 wicket and 12 overs win.

Then we celebrate like we've won the damn world cup.

Hit the streets, honk the cars, block the roads because we beat Afghanistan?

Our semi-final spot is not secure the world cup is not secure but we are celebrating because beating Afghans was a big milestone.

We drop catch after catch
we leak runs after runs
We do not take the attack to the opposition.
We do not attack the batsman
We do not play good field placements.
The ball is in the air we do not dive for it or run after it to catch.

We do not show intent, attack in our cricket or play positive or instill fear or improve on any weaknesses.

So why should this team deserve to be handed or gifted a semi final spot ahead of more deserving ones!

This England team today smashed Afghan spinners to everywhere and posted 397 runs we barely just scraped by on 228 run chase.

This England team took the attack to Indian spinners and scored 338 which is a winnable target these days and defended it by taking their opportunities, stopping singles, stopping the boundaries and catching!!

Our players smile when they drop a catch.
Our players fluff a run out.
Our players refuse to dive or get their clothes dirty.

In a game which is monumental and of importance. You do what it takes to win and if you know you need to improve your NRR you do that.

Don't blame pitch
Don't blame conditions
Don't blame lame excuses.

You are an international player representing your country, if you are worthy of being in the team then you adapt and you play on any pitch at any time in any condition.

Its as Simple as that!

Well written Post based on things happened and same time people with optimism and Bielef of not to Quit are also right .

Why do we forget one thing , history has a future and if a certain history has been re-created for nearly 100% and just with one nation then our bielives shouldn’t be just scientific or calling it as things happening but few bieliefs takes a blind faith and Pakistan is certainly gifted with Blind faith somehow

 

[Technics 1210]

One game means nothing. Over 9 matches, England were always going to do better. It is time for you to get real and accept that we are going home before the knockouts and we have only got ourselves to blame.

Was not the point. Of course you would claim it means nothing, you think it was a fluke win.

For the record, 4 teams are ready out, and come next weekend, 6 teams will be going home.

So, as much as Pakistan's mediocre success in this world cup - beating ENG, SA, and NZ - ALL TOP RANKED teams compared to Pakistan - Pakistan are still in this WC, and you just have to learn to live with this fact despite you wanting Pakistan to fail.

Congrats on your fluke win today by the way!

 

[Mamoon]

how do i block this mamoon, really depressing dude that loves to annoy people.

I feel sorry for his wife who has to live with such a negative person..

Click on my profile and you will see an ignore button. You won’t see my posts unless others quote me.

 

[Technics 1210]

This thread is premature anyway, if Pakistan qualify for the SF, this thread should be deleted, or least locked for prosperity so all Pakistan fans can have a good laugh at the expense of pretenders and wrist-slitter fans!

 

[life4smile]

Was not the point. Of course you would claim it means nothing, you think it was a fluke win.

For the record, 4 teams are ready out, and come next weekend, 6 teams will be going home.

So, as much as Pakistan's mediocre success in this world cup - beating ENG, SA, and NZ - ALL TOP RANKED teams compared to Pakistan - Pakistan are still in this WC, and you just have to learn to live with this fact despite you wanting Pakistan to fail.

Congrats on your fluke win today by the way!

You can agree to disagree someone but hold your faith tighter. It’s not about Worldcup here , it’s about Pakistan only .. it’s not about cricket here , it’s about destiny playing hide n seek with Pakistan and yes Pakistan did commit blunders only to see a unexpected turnaround. I just love one thing how brilliant Almighty is who created Pakistan , who let Pakistan go lowest and yet reaching the high, is their any nation in world with such Luck with Pakistan.

If I say 1992 repeat is already written , all we need is patience worldcup will finish on July 14 not today .. so just see what are the surprises until July 14

 

[Hasan123]

OP is right. We have ourselves to blame for our performance and for the selections we blamed.

We need to accept we arent good enough.

 

[MisbahTheGreat]

how do i block this mamoon, really depressing dude that loves to annoy people.

I feel sorry for his wife who has to live with such a negative person..

Grow up and stop bringing family and personal matters into this. Just ignore and move on

 

[Titan24]

how do i block this mamoon, really depressing dude that loves to annoy people.

I feel sorry for his wife who has to live with such a negative person..

Its just my suggestion that due to views or opinions of someone not aligning with yours you shouldnt go for a personal attack. Yes you have every right to contest his views.

Again its just a suggestion which you can ignore if you think you dont want it.

 

[Mamoon]

Was not the point. Of course you would claim it means nothing, you think it was a fluke win.

For the record, 4 teams are ready out, and come next weekend, 6 teams will be going home.

So, as much as Pakistan's mediocre success in this world cup - beating ENG, SA, and NZ - ALL TOP RANKED teams compared to Pakistan - Pakistan are still in this WC, and you just have to learn to live with this fact despite you wanting Pakistan to fail.

Congrats on your fluke win today by the way!

Pakistan will not qualify for the semifinals and they don’t deserve to either. The quicker you make peace with the easier it will be for you.

 

[Saj]

I felt at the time that the Windies defeat will come back to haunt us and that may still be the case.

 

[Captain caveman]

What has pakistan got to blame itself for?

PAKISTAN IS GOING TO WIN THIS WORLD CUP!

pakistan will defeat bangladesh and NZ will defeat england.
I said this at the start of todays match!

No wrist slitters required, just watch the greatest comeback in cricket history!

 

[UP]

Great post, I said the same in couple other posts and I am being criticised of being a fake fan.

I'm going to make it simple.

If you are in top 4 you deserve to be there because you have performed and did your nation proud and your players have done justice to wearing those colours.

If you are in top 4 because you pray for miracles or want handouts and freebies at the hands of other teams then you don't deserve to be in the top 4 or win the world cup.

Its simple.

Other teams didnt look to be in do or die situations, they won their games they earnt their points and they earnt their positive run rate to be in the top 4 or contenders for it.
[MENTION=2068]syed[/MENTION]_1 stay away from my post because you don't like reading fake expert analysis so stay in your miracle working bubble.

If Pakistan were serious about winning the world cup they would not have been out for 105 against a team we are prone to beating...
We could have and should have beaten England by a bigger margin especially after the total we posted but we didnt.
The washout didnt help but other teams have also had wash out or no result games...
We lost a winning game chasing well against Australia, that was our game to win but we did what we do best and lose from winning positions.
We got SCHOOLED by india, a shameful and embarassing loss that was.
We beat a team that is depleted and weak this world cup that being South Africa.
We scraped by against New Zealand when our best players of spin decided to take the game to the wire. Again didn't help the NRR

Then the opportunity came to completely demolish Afghans and chase that small total of 228 before the 40th over but OUR BEST PLAYERS OF SPIN and our Senior magician of playing spin Hafeez crumbled...

We took that to the last 2 balls where most teams would have cruised this with a 7 wicket and 12 overs win.

Then we celebrate like we've won the damn world cup.

Hit the streets, honk the cars, block the roads because we beat Afghanistan?

Our semi-final spot is not secure the world cup is not secure but we are celebrating because beating Afghans was a big milestone.

We drop catch after catch
we leak runs after runs
We do not take the attack to the opposition.
We do not attack the batsman
We do not play good field placements.
The ball is in the air we do not dive for it or run after it to catch.

We do not show intent, attack in our cricket or play positive or instill fear or improve on any weaknesses.

So why should this team deserve to be handed or gifted a semi final spot ahead of more deserving ones!

This England team today smashed Afghan spinners to everywhere and posted 397 runs we barely just scraped by on 228 run chase.

This England team took the attack to Indian spinners and scored 338 which is a winnable target these days and defended it by taking their opportunities, stopping singles, stopping the boundaries and catching!!

Our players smile when they drop a catch.
Our players fluff a run out.
Our players refuse to dive or get their clothes dirty.

In a game which is monumental and of importance. You do what it takes to win and if you know you need to improve your NRR you do that.

Don't blame pitch
Don't blame conditions
Don't blame lame excuses.

You are an international player representing your country, if you are worthy of being in the team then you adapt and you play on any pitch at any time in any condition.

Its as Simple as that!

I didn’t read your whole post but an opening batsman of a number 2 ranked team was crying about not getting flat roads in the wc. He blamed pitches.

If England are dished out a balanced pitch, not flat, NZ is in with a chance to knock England out.

 

[hb787]

When the tournament started everyone expected Pakistan team to smash the west indians into oblivion. Instead they lost in a humiliating fashion against the windies team who would later fail to win even 1 match. This is why every single game matters. That heavy defeat has come to bite Pakistan in the latter stages of the tournament where in all probability it would come down to the NRR between the 4th and the 5th team. And Pakistan's NRR is disastrous due to that 1st game.

Pakistan even lost to Australia after getting into positions from where they could have won the match. That has also played a role here.

Finally, Pakistan couldnt dish a heavy phainty to even Afghanistan which would have improved the NRR of the team. Neither to NZ nor to South Africa.

You can cry all you want, blame weather for washout against Srilanka, blame India for not playing well today etc. But in the end it all comes down to what you have yourself done. Pakistan should have done better to not be dependent on other teams' results.

Bang on!

 

[Technics 1210]

Pakistan will not qualify for the semifinals and they don’t deserve to either. The quicker you make peace with the easier it will be for you.

If you say so. Your predictions for this WC have been a joke!

 

[pakistani pride]

Great post, I said the same in couple other posts and I am being criticised of being a fake fan.

I'm going to make it simple.

If you are in top 4 you deserve to be there because you have performed and did your nation proud and your players have done justice to wearing those colours.

If you are in top 4 because you pray for miracles or want handouts and freebies at the hands of other teams then you don't deserve to be in the top 4 or win the world cup.

Its simple.

Other teams didnt look to be in do or die situations, they won their games they earnt their points and they earnt their positive run rate to be in the top 4 or contenders for it.
[MENTION=2068]syed[/MENTION]_1 stay away from my post because you don't like reading fake expert analysis so stay in your miracle working bubble.

If Pakistan were serious about winning the world cup they would not have been out for 105 against a team we are prone to beating...
We could have and should have beaten England by a bigger margin especially after the total we posted but we didnt.
The washout didnt help but other teams have also had wash out or no result games...
We lost a winning game chasing well against Australia, that was our game to win but we did what we do best and lose from winning positions.
We got SCHOOLED by india, a shameful and embarassing loss that was.
We beat a team that is depleted and weak this world cup that being South Africa.
We scraped by against New Zealand when our best players of spin decided to take the game to the wire. Again didn't help the NRR

Then the opportunity came to completely demolish Afghans and chase that small total of 228 before the 40th over but OUR BEST PLAYERS OF SPIN and our Senior magician of playing spin Hafeez crumbled...

We took that to the last 2 balls where most teams would have cruised this with a 7 wicket and 12 overs win.

Then we celebrate like we've won the damn world cup.

Hit the streets, honk the cars, block the roads because we beat Afghanistan?

Our semi-final spot is not secure the world cup is not secure but we are celebrating because beating Afghans was a big milestone.

We drop catch after catch
we leak runs after runs
We do not take the attack to the opposition.
We do not attack the batsman
We do not play good field placements.
The ball is in the air we do not dive for it or run after it to catch.

We do not show intent, attack in our cricket or play positive or instill fear or improve on any weaknesses.

So why should this team deserve to be handed or gifted a semi final spot ahead of more deserving ones!

This England team today smashed Afghan spinners to everywhere and posted 397 runs we barely just scraped by on 228 run chase.

This England team took the attack to Indian spinners and scored 338 which is a winnable target these days and defended it by taking their opportunities, stopping singles, stopping the boundaries and catching!!

Our players smile when they drop a catch.
Our players fluff a run out.
Our players refuse to dive or get their clothes dirty.

In a game which is monumental and of importance. You do what it takes to win and if you know you need to improve your NRR you do that.

Don't blame pitch
Don't blame conditions
Don't blame lame excuses.

You are an international player representing your country, if you are worthy of being in the team then you adapt and you play on any pitch at any time in any condition.

Its as Simple as that!

You do know PAK is still in the WC?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Pakistan will not qualify for the semifinals and they don’t deserve to either. The quicker you make peace with the easier it will be for you.

Youre predictions are as accurate as the English weather forecast, as we all have seen in the past. Do you expect people on here to take them seriously?

In must win games anything can happen, England have plenty of weak areas and NZ are no pushovers.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

You can agree to disagree someone but hold your faith tighter. It’s not about Worldcup here , it’s about Pakistan only .. it’s not about cricket here , it’s about destiny playing hide n seek with Pakistan and yes Pakistan did commit blunders only to see a unexpected turnaround. I just love one thing how brilliant Almighty is who created Pakistan , who let Pakistan go lowest and yet reaching the high, is their any nation in world with such Luck with Pakistan.

If I say 1992 repeat is already written , all we need is patience worldcup will finish on July 14 not today .. so just see what are the surprises until July 14

I disagree.

Why hasnt it happened in 96 99 03 07 11 15?

Why is the miracle necessary in 19?

What is so special about this year that it has been written in the stars?

I mean I am not against "blind faith" and "power of congregation".

But I argue logic with blind faith.

If I say "antibiotics are a source of healing and blind faith is healing by Allah" then I am right on both counts.

What I get from your posts is that "a series of miraculous events are set to occur this year".

But why, though?

Why not in 15 or 2023 or 2027 or 2031?

 

[Mueez]

What has pakistan got to blame itself for?

PAKISTAN IS GOING TO WIN THIS WORLD CUP!

pakistan will defeat bangladesh and NZ will defeat england.
I said this at the start of todays match!

No wrist slitters required, just watch the greatest comeback in cricket history!

InshaAllah.

We hope for the best.

 

[dildilpak]

I disagree.

Why hasnt it happened in 96 99 03 07 11 15?

Why is the miracle necessary in 19?

What is so special about this year that it has been written in the stars?

I mean I am not against "blind faith" and "power of congregation".

But I argue logic with blind faith.

If I say "antibiotics are a source of healing and blind faith is healing by Allah" then I am right on both counts.

What I get from your posts is that "a series of miraculous events are set to occur this year".

But why, though?

Why not in 15 or 2023 or 2027 or 2031?

Great reply.

 

[barah_admi]

When the tournament started everyone expected Pakistan team to smash the west indians into oblivion. Instead they lost in a humiliating fashion against the windies team who would later fail to win even 1 match. This is why every single game matters. That heavy defeat has come to bite Pakistan in the latter stages of the tournament where in all probability it would come down to the NRR between the 4th and the 5th team. And Pakistan's NRR is disastrous due to that 1st game.

Pakistan even lost to Australia after getting into positions from where they could have won the match. That has also played a role here.

Finally, Pakistan couldnt dish a heavy phainty to even Afghanistan which would have improved the NRR of the team. Neither to NZ nor to South Africa.

You can cry all you want, blame weather for washout against Srilanka, blame India for not playing well today etc. But in the end it all comes down to what you have yourself done. Pakistan should have done better to not be dependent on other teams' results.

I have not come across a single post which blames Indis for Pakistan's position in this tournament, considering you have, could you quote them to me?

 

[QalandarFan]

Pak ----> 3 losses
Eng ----> 3 losses
NZ -----> 2 losses (potentially 3 if they lose to Eng)


Pak beat both Eng and NZ


But experts here are like Eng and NZ deserve to go through and Pak deserve to go home

These are the same "experts" who were saying this team is worse than the 2015 World Cup team. Lmao

 

[Technics 1210]

Great post, I said the same in couple other posts and I am being criticised of being a fake fan.

I'm going to make it simple.

If you are in top 4 you deserve to be there because you have performed and did your nation proud and your players have done justice to wearing those colours.

If you are in top 4 because you pray for miracles or want handouts and freebies at the hands of other teams then you don't deserve to be in the top 4 or win the world cup.

Its simple.

Other teams didnt look to be in do or die situations, they won their games they earnt their points and they earnt their positive run rate to be in the top 4 or contenders for it.
[MENTION=2068]syed[/MENTION]_1 stay away from my post because you don't like reading fake expert analysis so stay in your miracle working bubble.

If Pakistan were serious about winning the world cup they would not have been out for 105 against a team we are prone to beating...
We could have and should have beaten England by a bigger margin especially after the total we posted but we didnt.
The washout didnt help but other teams have also had wash out or no result games...
We lost a winning game chasing well against Australia, that was our game to win but we did what we do best and lose from winning positions.
We got SCHOOLED by india, a shameful and embarassing loss that was.
We beat a team that is depleted and weak this world cup that being South Africa.
We scraped by against New Zealand when our best players of spin decided to take the game to the wire. Again didn't help the NRR

Then the opportunity came to completely demolish Afghans and chase that small total of 228 before the 40th over but OUR BEST PLAYERS OF SPIN and our Senior magician of playing spin Hafeez crumbled...

We took that to the last 2 balls where most teams would have cruised this with a 7 wicket and 12 overs win.

Then we celebrate like we've won the damn world cup.

Hit the streets, honk the cars, block the roads because we beat Afghanistan?

Our semi-final spot is not secure the world cup is not secure but we are celebrating because beating Afghans was a big milestone.

We drop catch after catch
we leak runs after runs
We do not take the attack to the opposition.
We do not attack the batsman
We do not play good field placements.
The ball is in the air we do not dive for it or run after it to catch.

We do not show intent, attack in our cricket or play positive or instill fear or improve on any weaknesses.

So why should this team deserve to be handed or gifted a semi final spot ahead of more deserving ones!

This England team today smashed Afghan spinners to everywhere and posted 397 runs we barely just scraped by on 228 run chase.

This England team took the attack to Indian spinners and scored 338 which is a winnable target these days and defended it by taking their opportunities, stopping singles, stopping the boundaries and catching!!

Our players smile when they drop a catch.
Our players fluff a run out.
Our players refuse to dive or get their clothes dirty.

In a game which is monumental and of importance. You do what it takes to win and if you know you need to improve your NRR you do that.

Don't blame pitch
Don't blame conditions
Don't blame lame excuses.

You are an international player representing your country, if you are worthy of being in the team then you adapt and you play on any pitch at any time in any condition.

Its as Simple as that!

So much wrong with this post.

The team that bashed Afghanistan, also got beaten by Pakistan and SL (allegedly circuits teams) and an average Australian team.

Pakistan beat Afghanistan with 2 balls to spare, well India beat Afghanistan in the final over too.

England were also looking at a do or die situation before today's game.

England also had a shameful and embarrassing loss vs Sri Lanka.

I could go on and on. You conveniently ignore the fact that Pakistan beat 3 higher ranked teams and England lost to 3 lower ranked teams, yet Pakistan do not deserve to go thorough but England does?

You post is premature anyway, Pakistan are still in this WC, and when Pakistan win the WC, I bet you will be congratulating all your friends and family instead of posting wrist-slitting nonsense.

 

[xbronze]

I felt asleep during India's batting, can anyone tell me why are my Pakistani friends so angry? Their statuses on facebook is akhtar like

Pakistan fans are very angry because they say that they considered India team a dear friend. A friend who would do the job of getting Pakistan into the Semis, as good friends are supposed to do for one another. But unfortunately, ENG team did not get this memo.

So ENG team put in their best and outplayed India. Now ENG team looks set for the semis. INDIA team also looks set for the semis. But as a result of today's match result, PAK team is virtually out of the semis.

So PAK fans are feeling very BETRAYED by INDIA. Many PAK fans accuse INDIA of hurting the feelings and chances of Pakistan because INDIA could not win against ENG. PAK fans feel that INDIA has not reciprocated the love Pakistan has always had for India and Indian cricket.

Many outraged Pakistani fans have in many posts on this board, held the 'Chanakiyan' Indian mentality responsible for virtually ousting Pakistan from the world cup. In short Pakistan feels betrayed by India. The hurt runs very deep, going by the online postings on Pakistan fan.

 

[Technics 1210]

One last point. This thread, and the ensuing wrist slitting posts - where were these BEFORE today's game? That's right, some of you had pinned your hopes on India beating England. How naive of you! Serves you right for supporting India the way you did. The irony being instead of dismantling India's performance today, once again the blame is on Pakistan. How does this work then? You support India but blame Pakistan?

Had England lost, the wrist-slitting sentiment in this thread would not have materialized.

Fickle fans!

 

[Sherazkhalid]

Yep it is true, we should have scored at least 200 against WI, none the less if we win BD game, I think we performed better than we should have.

 

[PakHammer]

At the end of day, we have done well to still have a chance to reach the final four going into our last game. The team were literally on their knees after the Indian defeat. To make a comeback after that demoralising defeat deserves credit.

 

[farazaidi]

Big LOL at all the over-hype with England.

For all the nay-sayers, this is what happened the last time Eng and NZ met in a world cup match.



so keep calm and believe in MEN IN GREEN !!!!