Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf - Karachi Performance Watch

[Azmi]

The maximum, which we heard, was the speech of Imran Khan where he said Punjab should be divided and new provinces should be made, but there is no need to make Karachi a separate Province.

Have you heard any other plan from PTI officials?

 

[Loralai]

Karachi should be given provincial status. It is very unfair to the people of Karachi to be governed by Sindh - it is a huge city which will only get bigger.

 

[Mian]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1407273

Imran Khan presents his 10-point agenda for Karachi

 

[hafeezrocks]

Karachi deserves to be a separate entity no more under the shadow of Sindh.

 

[Varun]

 

[Azmi]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1407273

Imran Khan presents his 10-point agenda for Karachi

Don't you feel it is nothing other than بلی کے خواب میں چھیچھڑے ?


1. Powers to Mayor
Imran Khan claims he will give powers to the Mayor.
But how?
He is just making fool of people.

Moreover, PTI members of National assembly and local body members have almost never been seen among the people of Karachi and they solves no problems of the people.


2. Police:
IK claims he will reform the police.
But again question is how?
Again IK is making fool of people.

And IK won in Karachi due to the Dark State. And this Dark State let Rao Anwar go free. Rangers never arrested Rao Anwar, nor filed any chargesheet against him, and IK never criticized Rangers for this.


3. Power Shortage:
Again IK is making fool of people.


4. Sewerage
He could could do nothing when budget of local bodies in Karachi is only 2 billion Rs.

5. Trees
There is no water for drinking in Karachi. And he is talking about planting trees in Karachi.


6. Circular Railway
Again IK has no powers.


Rest school, education and health, playgrounds and industry etc. also need funds, which IK will not be having and thus again an empty promise from Imran Khan.


Please tell me a single Promise of Imran Khan which he could fulfil in next 5 years in Karachi.



WATER:
Imran Khan won Karachi with help of the Dark State.
But this Dark State was not able to resolve the Water Crises in Karachi.
Not a single arrest was made from the water Mafia.

All of them were playing with Zardari and Imran Khan never criticized the Deep State and Rangers for not arresting the water Mafia, or for letting Rao Anwar go free.

 

[the Great Khan]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1407273

Imran Khan presents his 10-point agenda for Karachi

how much of that can he implement..he can do the mayor one and devolution..not sure about the rest

 

[Azmi]

how much of that can he implement..he can do the mayor one and devolution..not sure about the rest

Simple answer is ZERO

From among the 10 points, IK could deliver ZERO promise.

Either they come under the Provincial Government authority (like powers of Mayor, water, Police, power shortage, Circular Railway), or they could not be achieved due to the lack of the funds.

Karachi local government gets only 2 Billion Rs budget for Karachi. IK could not plant million Trees, IK could not take care of garbage and sewerage, IK could not open Hospitals, IK could not open Schools with this 2 Billion Rs.


All these promises are Empty.

 

[Abdullah719]

Simple answer is ZERO

From among the 10 points, IK could deliver ZERO promise.

Either they come under the Provincial Government authority (like powers of Mayor, water, Police, power shortage, Circular Railway), or they could not be achieved due to the lack of the funds.

Karachi local government gets only 2 Billion Rs budget for Karachi. IK could not plant million Trees, IK could not take care of garbage and sewerage, IK could not open Hospitals, IK could not open Schools with this 2 Billion Rs.


All these promises are Empty.

Are you posting from the future?

How did you do it?

 

[IMMY69]

Simple answer is ZERO

From among the 10 points, IK could deliver ZERO promise.

Either they come under the Provincial Government authority (like powers of Mayor, water, Police, power shortage, Circular Railway), or they could not be achieved due to the lack of the funds.

Karachi local government gets only 2 Billion Rs budget for Karachi. IK could not plant million Trees, IK could not take care of garbage and sewerage, IK could not open Hospitals, IK could not open Schools with this 2 Billion Rs.


All these promises are Empty.

There’s a simple answer to all this.

Yes it can all be achieved.

However you need to figure this out for yourself. It’s so simple

 

[IMMY69]

Are you posting from the future?

How did you do it?

Seems with the help of the dark force.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

Don't you feel it is nothing other than بلی کے خواب میں چھیچھڑے ?


1. Powers to Mayor
Imran Khan claims he will give powers to the Mayor.
But how?
He is just making fool of people.

Moreover, PTI members of National assembly and local body members have almost never been seen among the people of Karachi and they solves no problems of the people.


2. Police:
IK claims he will reform the police.
But again question is how?
Again IK is making fool of people.

And IK won in Karachi due to the Dark State. And this Dark State let Rao Anwar go free. Rangers never arrested Rao Anwar, nor filed any chargesheet against him, and IK never criticized Rangers for this.


3. Power Shortage:
Again IK is making fool of people.


4. Sewerage
He could could do nothing when budget of local bodies in Karachi is only 2 billion Rs.

5. Trees
There is no water for drinking in Karachi. And he is talking about planting trees in Karachi.


6. Circular Railway
Again IK has no powers.


Rest school, education and health, playgrounds and industry etc. also need funds, which IK will not be having and thus again an empty promise from Imran Khan.


Please tell me a single Promise of Imran Khan which he could fulfil in next 5 years in Karachi.



WATER:
Imran Khan won Karachi with help of the Dark State.
But this Dark State was not able to resolve the Water Crises in Karachi.
Not a single arrest was made from the water Mafia.

All of them were playing with Zardari and Imran Khan never criticized the Deep State and Rangers for not arresting the water Mafia, or for letting Rao Anwar go free.

Why are your complaining now what is the point wait 2 years if he is unable to do any of the things he is promising he will lose the next election are you scared that he will do the things he is promising and mqm will loose any of the support it has left. Complaining about stuff that hasn't happened yet is a bit much. And I am aware of how mqm got votes in the previous 2 elections so cry me a river when mqm talks about rigging. The elections were the cleanest ever in terms of counts and vote stuffing etc.

 

[IMMY69]

Ok look.
Karachi is the financial hub of Pakistan.

Karachites, just like everyone else in Pakistan, will not only have to start paying their taxes, but they will be higher taxes. Should be the highest level of tax in the history of Pakistan.

With implantation of PTI’s core policy of reducing corruption and increasing tax collection and ensuring its proper utilisation, the city will start to see the benefits...

Pakistan needs socialism to develop and it will get it now!

The rich, and there are many of these in Karachi, will rightly have to start paying more.

That’s where the money is coming from.

 

[Azmi]

Ok look.
Karachi is the financial hub of Pakistan.

Karachites, just like everyone else in Pakistan, will not only have to start paying their taxes, but they will be higher taxes. Should be the highest level of tax in the history of Pakistan.

With implantation of PTI’s core policy of reducing corruption and increasing tax collection and ensuring its proper utilisation, the city will start to see the benefits...

Pakistan needs socialism to develop and it will get it now!

The rich, and there are many of these in Karachi, will rightly have to start paying more.

That’s where the money is coming from.

This money is not going to be used for the progress of Karachi city and it's people, but going to the centre.

I don't know how you have come to this conclusion that Imran Khan is going to achieve any of 10 promises that he made through this tax money which has nothing to do with development of Karachi city.

Actually, you have been forced to name it, while you yourself know better that Imran Khan will be having no power to execute his 10 promises in Karachi with the present set up.

 

[Azmi]

Why are your complaining now what is the point wait 2 years if he is unable to do any of the things he is promising he will lose the next election are you scared that he will do the things he is promising and mqm will loose any of the support it has left. Complaining about stuff that hasn't happened yet is a bit much. And I am aware of how mqm got votes in the previous 2 elections so cry me a river when mqm talks about rigging. The elections were the cleanest ever in terms of counts and vote stuffing etc.

I am questioning it NOW, while I have a thinking mind, which is rightfully asking this question how he could make such promises while he has absolutely no authority to deliver them.

I don't think using one's brain is Haram when it comes to the promises of politicians like Imran Khan.


Imran Khan made the promises, but nobody is telling us HOW.

How is Imran Khan going to deliver his promises when he has no authority?

 

[IMMY69]

This money is not going to be used for the progress of Karachi city and it's people, but going to the centre.

I don't know how you have come to this conclusion that Imran Khan is going to achieve any of 10 promises that he made through this tax money which has nothing to do with development of Karachi city.

Actually, you have been forced to name it, while you yourself know better that Imran Khan will be having no power to execute his 10 promises in Karachi with the present set up.

You are not questioning anything.
You are stating them as if they are facts.
Are you a fortune teller?

 

[slipcatch]

Simple answer is ZERO

From among the 10 points, IK could deliver ZERO promise.

Either they come under the Provincial Government authority (like powers of Mayor, water, Police, power shortage, Circular Railway), or they could not be achieved due to the lack of the funds.

Karachi local government gets only 2 Billion Rs budget for Karachi. IK could not plant million Trees, IK could not take care of garbage and sewerage, IK could not open Hospitals, IK could not open Schools with this 2 Billion Rs.


All these promises are Empty.

IK channay chabanay aya hai aur yeh sahib qiadat karnay aye hein.

When he started everyone said he would never be a PM.

It can be done and it’ll be done on it due course.

Stop being negative and pessimist, someone has to break the shackles and move towards betterment.

 

[slipcatch]

I am questioning it NOW, while I have a thinking mind, which is rightfully asking this question how he could make such promises while he has absolutely no authority to deliver them.

I don't think using one's brain is Haram when it comes to the promises of politicians like Imran Khan.


Imran Khan made the promises, but nobody is telling us HOW.

How is Imran Khan going to deliver his promises when he has no authority?

It’s been a day, give him at least a year. Lol

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Ok look.
Karachi is the financial hub of Pakistan.

Karachites, just like everyone else in Pakistan, will not only have to start paying their taxes, but they will be higher taxes. Should be the highest level of tax in the history of Pakistan.

With implantation of PTI’s core policy of reducing corruption and increasing tax collection and ensuring its proper utilisation, the city will start to see the benefits...

Pakistan needs socialism to develop and it will get it now!

The rich, and there are many of these in Karachi, will rightly have to start paying more.

That’s where the money is coming from.

LOL about the Socialism part. It never works.

 

[Slog]

Ok look.
Karachi is the financial hub of Pakistan.

Karachites, just like everyone else in Pakistan, will not only have to start paying their taxes, but they will be higher taxes. Should be the highest level of tax in the history of Pakistan.

.

Karachi pays more tax than the REST of the country put together so I don't know what you are playing at here

 

[Azmi]

It’s been a day, give him at least a year. Lol

Look brother, Imran khan made many promises when he formed government in KPK in 2013, but many of them didn't deliver.

One has to be realistic.

We all know that these 10 promises could only be fulfilled if Karachi becomes a separate administrative province. But here lies the biggest problem, and this problem is Imran Khan himself. He openly oppose the formation of South Sindh Administrative Province, while at the same time promoting division of Punjab for new provinces.

And none of the IK followers got the courage to tell Imran Khan his basic mistake, for which people of Karachi have been suffering since long and will continue to suffer under IK's rule.

 

[Slog]

I'll say one thing.

If PTI doesn't deliver in Karachi and has atleast a few projects to give relief to the Karachi awaam then I will gladly vote for MQM or an ethnic equivalent for the terr if my life.

We took a HUGE risk to vote for PTI whereas the much more secure Lahore still went for the ethnic choice in PML-N and if this move backfires then the Karachi awaam will lose ALL trust in national parties

 

[hussain.r97]

Karachi should be given provincial status. It is very unfair to the people of Karachi to be governed by Sindh - it is a huge city which will only get bigger.

Agreed, but it looks difficult. PTI + MQMP will need a two-thirds majority in Sindh government.

It MAY be possible next term if PTI conduct a new fair census which gives Urban Sindh more seats than Rural Sindh, and if PTI manage to penetrate into Rural Sindh, and win enough seats to give PTI + MQMP a two third majority.

 

[hussain.r97]

I'll say one thing.

If PTI doesn't deliver in Karachi and has atleast a few projects to give relief to the Karachi awaam then I will gladly vote for MQM or an ethnic equivalent for the terr if my life.

We took a HUGE risk to vote for PTI whereas the much more secure Lahore still went for the ethnic choice in PML-N and if this move backfires then the Karachi awaam will lose ALL trust in national parties

PTI are in a difficult position. They have won Karachi, but do not have Sindh government. They need to make sure they AT LEAST use development funds well, and do some decent projects + try and resolve water type issues.

 

[Slog]

PTI are in a difficult position. They have won Karachi, but do not have Sindh government. They need to make sure they AT LEAST use development funds well, and do some decent projects + try and resolve water type issues.

Yes but they need to.

Even on a personal level. I must have forced/made atleast 25-30 people vote for PTI and atleast 8-10 were always hardcore MQM supporters and you couldn't imagine them going other way

It would be a personal embarassment got me if there's literally nothing to show at the end

 

[hussain.r97]

Yes but they need to.

Even on a personal level. I must have forced/made atleast 25-30 people vote for PTI and atleast 8-10 were always hardcore MQM supporters and you couldn't imagine them going other way

It would be a personal embarassment got me if there's literally nothing to show at the end

I am confident they will deliver though. The PTI MPAs are a good, hard working bunch, I know a number of them from my time doing campaigning work for PTI, all of them have worked extremely hard to reach this position, and will continue the good work for sure.

 

[IMMY69]

Karachi pays more tax than the REST of the country put together so I don't know what you are playing at here

Slog, i’m thoroughly disappointed in you.
“Like the rest of Pakistan”
Taxes paid but stolen due to corruption

 

[IMMY69]

Yes but they need to.

Even on a personal level. I must have forced/made atleast 25-30 people vote for PTI and atleast 8-10 were always hardcore MQM supporters and you couldn't imagine them going other way

It would be a personal embarassment got me if there's literally nothing to show at the end

Thoroughly disappointed.

Don’t be a coward.

 

[IMMY69]

LOL about the Socialism part. It never works.

Why is nickname “angrez”???

Anyway, look at the UK, what do you think the NHS, Housing for the poor (the clue is in the name), employment benefit are????

You need to have a period of government intervention to get the country to a certain level..

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Karachi deserves to be a separate entity no more under the shadow of Sindh.

I agree with this

 

[Asim_khan]

LOL about the Socialism part. It never works.

He's not talking about Pakistan becoming a commie regime, In moderation socialism works a treat. It's Why certain counties have a free health service and a welfare system.

 

[Slog]

Slog, i’m thoroughly disappointed in you.
“Like the rest of Pakistan”
Taxes paid but stolen due to corruption

What are you trying to even say? Make sense

 

[IMMY69]

What are you trying to even say? Make sense

I mean Karachi has to pay more tax, just like the rest of Pakistan....

Income tax is currently around 20% and most of the rich end up paying far less, be it income tax or corporation tax.

That’s what I meant.

 

[Stewie]

I'll say one thing.

If PTI doesn't deliver in Karachi and has atleast a few projects to give relief to the Karachi awaam then I will gladly vote for MQM or an ethnic equivalent for the terr if my life.

We took a HUGE risk to vote for PTI whereas the much more secure Lahore still went for the ethnic choice in PML-N and if this move backfires then the Karachi awaam will lose ALL trust in national parties

MQM always won in Karachi, right? Did they achieve a lot and do a lot for the people when they were in power?

Don’t you think you will be holding PtI tondifferent standards than you hold MQM?

Don’t get dragged into the common misconception that Punjab voted along ethnic lines so Mahajirs have to as well. Most of the uneducated majority in Punjab votes PMLN, not the educated masses in metropolitan cities. Karachi is supposed to be an educated city so vote your conscience.

My personal view is IK cannot turn the fortunes of the nation overnight. You may. It see immediate results in your local municipality or city.. if you want this big change in our political setup, oh should be prepared for the long haul. If you want to go.m back to the musical chairs of PPP-PMLN who team up with MQM and others just to be in power, then so be it.

But know this: it won’t help anyone in the long run!

 

[PetroDollars]

devalution and mayoral powers is nothing new, it was done by Musharraf as was most of the other things on IK's list. But whats the point when the next gov. will come and reverse it.

 

[Azmi]

devalution and mayoral powers is nothing new, it was done by Musharraf as was most of the other things on IK's list. But whats the point when the next gov. will come and reverse it.

Imran Khan has absolutely NO powers to give authority to the Mayor of Karachi.

This could only been done by the provincial government of Sindh.

Therefore, Imran Khan could do Zilch in Karachi. All his promises for Karachi are only deceptions and none of these promises is going to be fulfilled.

 

[Azmi]

MQM always won in Karachi, right? Did they achieve a lot and do a lot for the people when they were in power?

Don’t you think you will be holding PtI tondifferent standards than you hold MQM?

Don’t get dragged into the common misconception that Punjab voted along ethnic lines so Mahajirs have to as well. Most of the uneducated majority in Punjab votes PMLN, not the educated masses in metropolitan cities. Karachi is supposed to be an educated city so vote your conscience.

My personal view is IK cannot turn the fortunes of the nation overnight. You may. It see immediate results in your local municipality or city.. if you want this big change in our political setup, oh should be prepared for the long haul. If you want to go.m back to the musical chairs of PPP-PMLN who team up with MQM and others just to be in power, then so be it.

But know this: it won’t help anyone in the long run!

MQM did magical work during the Era of Musharraf.

MQM is the most organised and most educated party. It has the roots in the public.

While PTI Karachi has absolutely no roots in the public. Their MNAs and MPAs of 2013 elections, and the members of local bodies in 2015 are nowhere to be seen. They did no work in Karachi.

Reality is this PTI has no vision for Karachi and also they have No plan.

All the promises of Imran Khan regarding Karachi are nothing else than deceptions.

 

[PetroDollars]

MQM did magical work during the Era of Musharraf.

MQM is the most organised and most educated party. It has the roots in the public.

While PTI Karachi has absolutely no roots in the public. Their MNAs and MPAs of 2013 elections, and the members of local bodies in 2015 are nowhere to be seen. They did no work in Karachi.

Reality is this PTI has no vision for Karachi and also they have No plan.

All the promises of Imran Khan regarding Karachi are nothing else than deceptions.

In the words of Mustapha Kamal - 'with MQM i did nothing, it was all Musharraf' and this was before he left MQM and was still karachi mayor

 

[shah_1]

They could come up with mega projects in Karachi through special packages like Green line metro project and Lyari expressway.

There was disagreement between railway ministry and Sindh goverment over Circular railway due to Main line 1 upgradation so hopefully this goverment clears that issue so we can see Sindh goverment developing KCR.

Pti job is not clean up streets.

 

[InziRules]

PTI needs to separate Sindh into two. Sindh will never agree to a Karachi province, but make it South Sindh and North Sindh, then it'll work, since Punjab can be South and North too.

Anyway, we already pay taxes, since companies are registered and employees are automatically registered too.

It's time landlords started paying taxes.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

PTI needs to separate Sindh into two. Sindh will never agree to a Karachi province, but make it South Sindh and North Sindh, then it'll work, since Punjab can be South and North too.

Anyway, we already pay taxes, since companies are registered and employees are automatically registered too.

It's time landlords started paying taxes.

PPP are lording over the senate, thanks to the anti-PML-N vote. I don’t see how they can ratify such a bill from the senate, if it comes down to that situation.

 

[hussain.r97]

PTI needs to separate Sindh into two. Sindh will never agree to a Karachi province, but make it South Sindh and North Sindh, then it'll work, since Punjab can be South and North too.

Anyway, we already pay taxes, since companies are registered and employees are automatically registered too.

It's time landlords started paying taxes.

Ideally, Karachi itself should be a province. It will never happen though, if someone manages to pass it, all hell will break loose in Sindh. Everytime such a thing is suggested, Sindhis have attacked Urdu speaking people in interior Sindh (which is the reason the Urdu speaking population is disappearing from interior Sindh, and have largely migrated to Hyderabad and Karachi).

Your South Sindh solution is something more plausible as it can be argued on an administrative basis. The southern half of Sindh can all be included from Karachi to Tharparkar. The majority of people will be living in Karachi, Hyderabad, and Mirpurkhas, but there will be a decent rural population too.

Alongside this, Karachi should have further autonomy as a special zone with it's own administration etc. Hyderabad should be the administrative centre for the province.

North Sindh can take the other cities like Nawabshah, Larkana, Sukkur, Jacobabad, and Khairpur.

This is a very rough idea of the borders on a map:

 

[Azmi]

In the words of Mustapha Kamal - 'with MQM i did nothing, it was all Musharraf' and this was before he left MQM and was still karachi mayor

The role of Musharraf was this that he for the first time introduced the real democracy by giving powers to the local bodies.

But on the ground, it was MQM Show.

The MNAs and MPAs and local body representatives of MQM were 24 hours available to the people. Even telephone call was responded.

All the MNAs and MPAs had to officially sit at Nine Zero and other offices of MQM for stipulated hours per week.

Such administration is not present in any other party.

Musharraf gave the same powers to all local bodies in Lahore and all other cities of Pakistan, but none were able to deliver as had been delivered by the Karachi city government.

 

[Syed1]

I hope in the next 5 years PTI achieves atleast some or all of the following:


1. Strong local government in Karachi that looks after all aspects of the city
2. Desalination plants for water transmission for the city's water starved residents
3. Marked improvement in garbage collection and disposal
4. Rapid transit system - the city's transport system is a mess atm
5. Afforestation of the city and more parks for the residents



Just do all of the above and mark my works no one can beat PTI in Karachi for the next decade.

 

[hussain.r97]

I hope in the next 5 years PTI achieves atleast some or all of the following:


1. Strong local government in Karachi that looks after all aspects of the city Likely needs to get through Sindh government first, steep task for now.
2. Desalination plants for water transmission for the city's water starved residents Possible through federal funding I think?
3. Marked improvement in garbage collection and disposal Possible to some extent, but we need to win in LG governments in 2020
4. Rapid transit system - the city's transport system is a mess atm Possible through federal funding, but needs provincial co-operation
5. Afforestation of the city and more parks for the residents MNAs and MPAs can do this in their halqas.



Just do all of the above and mark my works no one can beat PTI in Karachi for the next decade.

Overall, PTI can achieve enough in federal government and through MNAs and MPAs to put up a decent show in Karachi.

 

[Azmi]

I hope in the next 5 years PTI achieves atleast some or all of the following:


1. Strong local government in Karachi that looks after all aspects of the city

Not possible. Local government authority could only be granted by the provincial government of Sindh.

2. Desalination plants for water transmission for the city's water starved residents

You mean through Federal grant?
Perhaps it would be better to make small dams and give water to Karachi, while desalination plants are extremely costly.

3. Marked improvement in garbage collection and disposal

Not possible. The total fund that Karachi Local Body gets from Provincial Government is only 2 Billion Rs which is far from being enough.

4. Rapid transit system - the city's transport system is a mess atm

Difficult without the cooperation by the provincial government.

5. Afforestation of the city and more parks for the residents

Very difficult.
PTI has neither provincial government, nor the local body government.
There is no water present in Karachi even for the people to drink.

Just do all of the above and mark my works no one can beat PTI in Karachi for the next decade.

PTI could never achieve that when Musharraf and MQM achieved together for Karachi. They simply lack the funds, and they lack the ground experience. They are absolutely not organised in Karachi. They don't have their presence among the public.

 

[hussain.r97]

Not possible. Local government authority could only be granted by the provincial government of Sindh.



You mean through Federal grant?
Perhaps it would be better to make small dams and give water to Karachi, while desalination plants are extremely costly.



Not possible. The total fund that Karachi Local Body gets from Provincial Government is only 2 Billion Rs which is far from being enough.



Difficult without the cooperation by the provincial government.




Very difficult.
PTI has neither provincial government, nor the local body government.
There is no water present in Karachi even for the people to drink.



PTI could never achieve that when Musharraf and MQM achieved together for Karachi. They simply lack the funds, and they lack the ground experience. They are absolutely not organised in Karachi. They don't have their presence among the public.

Please stop whining just because MQM lost. None of your criticisms are even valid because PTI have not even started their term yet. If they have nothing to show in 2-3 years, then yes, you may criticise them. But as of now, you're just being sour and aimlessly criticising everything about PTI.

The point you made about them having no presence among the public is not true either. You are not the only Karachiite here, there are plenty of Karachiites here you know? PTI do have a ground level presence in Karachi, and they are getting there with their organisation. You can't expect them to be as organised and experienced as the MQM yet, MQM have 30 years of experience in Karachi politics (and bhata khori and violence), why are you even comparing? Every party needs a start from somewhere, at least give PTI a chance to do something before aimlessly attacking them.

 

[hussain.r97]

Karachi voted for PTI. Here’s how it can give back

KARACHI: Residents of Karachi were desperate for change as many issues plaguing the city remained largely unaddressed during the tenures of the Pakistan Peoples Party and Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz when they were at the helm of affairs in the federal and provincial governments.

Former favourite of Karachiites, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement, kept winning the city’s mandate for 30 years but could not resolve the city’s basic issues such as water shortage, dilapidated sewerage infrastructure and lawlessness. The party also failed to take effective stance in Parliament on problems faced by the city’s residents.

It was the 2018 elections when the people of Karachi channelled their frustration against the tried and tested parties who ruled over them in the federal, provincial and local governments, with a large chunk of their votes going to the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI).
The party, which could only bag one NA seat from the city in the 2013 general elections, has secured, according to unofficial results, 14 out of 21 NA seats from the city. More or less the same is the ratio of the PTI’s provincial seats from Karachi.

As the PTI is expected to form the federal government, Karachi’s residents have high hopes that the party would resolve their issues. However, there will be constraints for the PTI in addressing Karachi’s issues as the provincial government will likely to be formed by the PPP again. After the 18th Amendment, only a few avenues are available for Centre to meddle into the provincial governments’ matters. Similarly, the incumbent mayor of the city belongs to the MQM-P. Due to all this, the PTI will either have to coordinate with the PPP and MQM-P to resolve Karachi’s issues or find new ways to serve the city.

PTI’s options

In order to satisfy its voters, the PTI’s federal government has to find avenues where the Centre can easily manoeuvre in Karachi.

Some of the areas in which the PTI can immediately start working include the verification of census results, completion of federal projects such as Green Line Bus Rapid Transit (BRT), approval of water quota for the city from Indus River, completion of water project K-IV, completion of sewerage project S-III, restoration of Karachi Circular Railway (KCR), resolving the non-provision of identity cards to various ethnicities such as Biharis and Pakhtuns, and resolving the possible eviction of people living in housing schemes for federal employees such as Martin Quarters, Clayton Quarters and FC Area.

The PTI can also announce a development package for Karachi and direct federal institutions, such as Pakistan Railways, Karachi Port Trust, Civil Aviation Authority and others, to construct roads and bridges in the city with their funds.

It is pertinent to note here that in 2003, then-president Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf, on the request of then-city nazim Naimatullah Khan, directed federal organisations to use their funds for the construction of streets and bridges in the city due to which KPT and other institutions participated in various development projects in the city. During that era, the federal government allocated heavy funds for the city which kept being released till Mustafa Kamal’s tenure as nazim. Projects worth Rs50 billion were carried out in the city for eight years due to the federal funds.

Former minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi also announced a Rs25 billion package for Karachi in August 12 last year. As of now, projects worth Rs10 billion have been approved under the package which will be carried out by the Karachi Infrastructure Company Limited (KIDCL), which is a federal agency.

There are some other pending mega projects in the city which have to be equally funded by the federal and provincial governments. They include K-IV project which would supply 260 million gallons of water per day to the city and S-III, a mega sewerage project. Being a stakeholder in these projects, the PTI-led federal government can help speed up the work.

Construction work on the Rs24.6 billion Green Line BRT project is currently under way in the city, which has to be entirely funded by the federal government. The project was initiated in January 2016 and was supposed to be completed by December 2017. However, only Phase-1 of the project has been completed, which includes the track running between Surjani Town and Gurumandir. The second phase of the project will be constructed between Gurumandir and Municipal Park. By completing the project in its tenure, the PTI can share the credit of building the city’s first mass transit project.

The revival of KCR has been on the wish list of Karachiites for long. The project is being envisaged since 2005 but has yet to be started. Last year, former prime minister Nawaz Sharif made KCR a part of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor on the request of then-CM Murad Ali Shah. The project was supposed to be initiated on December 25, 2017, and completed within 36 months. However, due to Nawaz’s ouster from the premiership and former railway minister Saad Rafique’s lack of interest, the project was not even started.

The KCR is a hot cake for the PTI as the Chinese government has agreed to provide a $1.97 billion loan on easy installments and the Sindh government has also prepared the feasibility report for the project. The PTI’s federal government has to issue orders and ensure the implementation of the project and it will be a reality.

The PTI government’s biggest challenge will be dealing with Karachi’s water crisis. One of the major reasons for the defeats of MQM-P and PPP candidates in the city is the inability of the parties to resolve this issue. The demand for water in Karachi is 1,100 million gallons per day (MGD). Of the share of 650 MGD from the Indus River to the city, only 400 MGD is being supplied. The K-IV project was started in 2016. Though it was supposed to be completed in December 2018, extremely slow pace of work on the project has extended its targeted date of completion to somewhere in 2020. If the PTI uses its resources to accelerate work on project, which is expected to resolve Karachi’s water crisis, the party may not fear losing next elections.

The S-III project has been hit with delays for the past 10 years. Initially it could not be started due to disagreements between the federal and provincial governments. Finally, it began in 2013 and was to be completed within two years. Work on the project sped up when the Supreme Court took notice and now it may be one of the mega projects that would be completed while the PTI is in the federal government.

Residents of various housing colonies for federal employees such as Martin Quarters and Clayton Quarters, who have been living there for decades, are now facing threats of eviction as the authorities have termed them illegal occupants. Most of these colonies lie in NA-245, from where PTI’s Amir Liaquat has won the polls.

The residents are expecting that the PTI would resolve the issue and would not ask them to vacate the houses on humanitarian grounds.

Members of Pakhtun and Bihari communities have been complaining that it has become difficult for them to obtain computerised national identity cards as the National Database and Registration Authority is placing them under expatriate’s category. Many of such people reside in Orangi Town and SITE areas and they are hoping that the PTI would not leave them being deprived of their citizenship.

There is a general impression in the city that its population was understated in the census results. Initial census results say that Karachi’s population is around 16 million, however, many people believe that there are at least 20 million people living in Karachi. It was decided in the last tenure that 5% census data will be scrutinised to address reservations over census results but the scrutiny was never carried out. The PTI-led federal government can please Karachi residents by having census results verified.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1769063/1-karachi-voted-pti-heres-can-give-back/

Fantastic article on what PTI can do for Karachi while in federal government, without having provincial or local governments.
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What do you think of this?

 

[Mian]

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1769063/1-karachi-voted-pti-heres-can-give-back/

Fantastic article on what PTI can do for Karachi while in federal government, without having provincial or local governments.

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What do you think of this?

seems like a very good plan we really need to bypass sindh and local government to address the core issues of Karachi

 

[Bewal Express]

I hope in the next 5 years PTI achieves atleast some or all of the following:


1. Strong local government in Karachi that looks after all aspects of the city
2. Desalination plants for water transmission for the city's water starved residents
3. Marked improvement in garbage collection and disposal
4. Rapid transit system - the city's transport system is a mess atm
5. Afforestation of the city and more parks for the residents



Just do all of the above and mark my works no one can beat PTI in Karachi for the next decade.

All sensible suggestions. Maybe have a post in the Fed cabinet to co-ordinate all the work.

 

[hussain.r97]

This thread is to watch PTI's performance in Karachi.

PTI are not in government in Sindh, however, many things can be achieved through federal government, as well as working with Sindh government.

This article gives a good idea of what PTI can achieve in Karachi:

Karachi voted for PTI. Here’s how it can give back

KARACHI: Residents of Karachi were desperate for change as many issues plaguing the city remained largely unaddressed during the tenures of the Pakistan Peoples Party and Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz when they were at the helm of affairs in the federal and provincial governments.

Former favourite of Karachiites, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement, kept winning the city’s mandate for 30 years but could not resolve the city’s basic issues such as water shortage, dilapidated sewerage infrastructure and lawlessness. The party also failed to take effective stance in Parliament on problems faced by the city’s residents.

It was the 2018 elections when the people of Karachi channelled their frustration against the tried and tested parties who ruled over them in the federal, provincial and local governments, with a large chunk of their votes going to the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI).
The party, which could only bag one NA seat from the city in the 2013 general elections, has secured, according to unofficial results, 14 out of 21 NA seats from the city. More or less the same is the ratio of the PTI’s provincial seats from Karachi.

As the PTI is expected to form the federal government, Karachi’s residents have high hopes that the party would resolve their issues. However, there will be constraints for the PTI in addressing Karachi’s issues as the provincial government will likely to be formed by the PPP again. After the 18th Amendment, only a few avenues are available for Centre to meddle into the provincial governments’ matters. Similarly, the incumbent mayor of the city belongs to the MQM-P. Due to all this, the PTI will either have to coordinate with the PPP and MQM-P to resolve Karachi’s issues or find new ways to serve the city.

PTI’s options


In order to satisfy its voters, the PTI’s federal government has to find avenues where the Centre can easily manoeuvre in Karachi.

Some of the areas in which the PTI can immediately start working include the verification of census results, completion of federal projects such as Green Line Bus Rapid Transit (BRT), approval of water quota for the city from Indus River, completion of water project K-IV, completion of sewerage project S-III, restoration of Karachi Circular Railway (KCR), resolving the non-provision of identity cards to various ethnicities such as Biharis and Pakhtuns, and resolving the possible eviction of people living in housing schemes for federal employees such as Martin Quarters, Clayton Quarters and FC Area.

The PTI can also announce a development package for Karachi and direct federal institutions, such as Pakistan Railways, Karachi Port Trust, Civil Aviation Authority and others, to construct roads and bridges in the city with their funds.

It is pertinent to note here that in 2003, then-president Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf, on the request of then-city nazim Naimatullah Khan, directed federal organisations to use their funds for the construction of streets and bridges in the city due to which KPT and other institutions participated in various development projects in the city. During that era, the federal government allocated heavy funds for the city which kept being released till Mustafa Kamal’s tenure as nazim. Projects worth Rs50 billion were carried out in the city for eight years due to the federal funds.

Former minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi also announced a Rs25 billion package for Karachi in August 12 last year. As of now, projects worth Rs10 billion have been approved under the package which will be carried out by the Karachi Infrastructure Company Limited (KIDCL), which is a federal agency.

There are some other pending mega projects in the city which have to be equally funded by the federal and provincial governments. They include K-IV project which would supply 260 million gallons of water per day to the city and S-III, a mega sewerage project. Being a stakeholder in these projects, the PTI-led federal government can help speed up the work.

Construction work on the Rs24.6 billion Green Line BRT project is currently under way in the city, which has to be entirely funded by the federal government. The project was initiated in January 2016 and was supposed to be completed by December 2017. However, only Phase-1 of the project has been completed, which includes the track running between Surjani Town and Gurumandir. The second phase of the project will be constructed between Gurumandir and Municipal Park. By completing the project in its tenure, the PTI can share the credit of building the city’s first mass transit project.

The revival of KCR has been on the wish list of Karachiites for long. The project is being envisaged since 2005 but has yet to be started. Last year, former prime minister Nawaz Sharif made KCR a part of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor on the request of then-CM Murad Ali Shah. The project was supposed to be initiated on December 25, 2017, and completed within 36 months. However, due to Nawaz’s ouster from the premiership and former railway minister Saad Rafique’s lack of interest, the project was not even started.

The KCR is a hot cake for the PTI as the Chinese government has agreed to provide a $1.97 billion loan on easy installments and the Sindh government has also prepared the feasibility report for the project. The PTI’s federal government has to issue orders and ensure the implementation of the project and it will be a reality.

The PTI government’s biggest challenge will be dealing with Karachi’s water crisis. One of the major reasons for the defeats of MQM-P and PPP candidates in the city is the inability of the parties to resolve this issue. The demand for water in Karachi is 1,100 million gallons per day (MGD). Of the share of 650 MGD from the Indus River to the city, only 400 MGD is being supplied. The K-IV project was started in 2016. Though it was supposed to be completed in December 2018, extremely slow pace of work on the project has extended its targeted date of completion to somewhere in 2020. If the PTI uses its resources to accelerate work on project, which is expected to resolve Karachi’s water crisis, the party may not fear losing next elections.

The S-III project has been hit with delays for the past 10 years. Initially it could not be started due to disagreements between the federal and provincial governments. Finally, it began in 2013 and was to be completed within two years. Work on the project sped up when the Supreme Court took notice and now it may be one of the mega projects that would be completed while the PTI is in the federal government.

Residents of various housing colonies for federal employees such as Martin Quarters and Clayton Quarters, who have been living there for decades, are now facing threats of eviction as the authorities have termed them illegal occupants. Most of these colonies lie in NA-245, from where PTI’s Amir Liaquat has won the polls.

The residents are expecting that the PTI would resolve the issue and would not ask them to vacate the houses on humanitarian grounds.

Members of Pakhtun and Bihari communities have been complaining that it has become difficult for them to obtain computerised national identity cards as the National Database and Registration Authority is placing them under expatriate’s category. Many of such people reside in Orangi Town and SITE areas and they are hoping that the PTI would not leave them being deprived of their citizenship.

There is a general impression in the city that its population was understated in the census results. Initial census results say that Karachi’s population is around 16 million, however, many people believe that there are at least 20 million people living in Karachi. It was decided in the last tenure that 5% census data will be scrutinised to address reservations over census results but the scrutiny was never carried out. The PTI-led federal government can please Karachi residents by having census results verified.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1769063/1-karachi-voted-pti-heres-can-give-back/

 

[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Starting work from Day 1.<a href="https://twitter.com/KhurrumZamanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KhurrumZamanPTI</a> inspects development work on Clifton Block 2. <a href="https://t.co/WuzAKOinyS">pic.twitter.com/WuzAKOinyS</a></p>— PTI Karachi Official (@PTI_KHI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTI_KHI/status/1031588264661139457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> volunteers dedicated to the afforestation drive. <a href="https://t.co/pBXSTSF0a2">pic.twitter.com/pBXSTSF0a2</a></p>— PTI Karachi Official (@PTI_KHI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTI_KHI/status/1031591032947924999?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/ArsalanGhumman?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArsalanGhumman</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Fsnaqvi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Fsnaqvi</a> and Akbar Morojo's meeting with Solid waste management board. <a href="https://t.co/kMoGObdqte">pic.twitter.com/kMoGObdqte</a></p>— PTI Karachi Official (@PTI_KHI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTI_KHI/status/1031861082074357761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Save this for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EidUlAzha?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EidUlAzha</a> Cleanliness Drive.<br>Report any issues on the numbers provided. <a href="https://t.co/tWjZMbBenJ">pic.twitter.com/tWjZMbBenJ</a></p>— PTI Karachi Official (@PTI_KHI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTI_KHI/status/1031590221354295296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[hussain.r97]

Disappointing so far that we haven't had any news on what's happening in Karachi yet. They really need to get something started there, LG elections are also coming soon too!

Bodies like KMC are under federal government, and PTI also promised to launch a federal package for Karachi, and construct mass transit and water projects from federal funds too, but so far there has been absolutely no news.

So far, they have only formed a Karachi advisory council, and MPAs have been doing their usual groundwork. Nothing major yet. Hoping to hear something soon.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">. <a href="https://twitter.com/PTI_KHI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PTI_KHI</a> president <a href="https://twitter.com/Fsnaqvi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Fsnaqvi</a> announced Karachi Advisory Council Members. <a href="https://t.co/SgkyBVdCYM">pic.twitter.com/SgkyBVdCYM</a></p>— PTI Karachi Official (@PTI_KHI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTI_KHI/status/1036516381498531841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PM Imran Khan will be visiting Karachi on 16th Sep. He will make important announcements regarding <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Karachi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Karachi</a> package during his visit.</p>— Arsalan Taj (@ArsalanGhumman) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArsalanGhumman/status/1040537641853378560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Syed1]

I hope the package is something substantial. Karachi has placed massive trust in Khan, if he disappoints then we will have absolutely no one to turn to.

 

[Asim_khan]

Faisal Vawda has promised something major in the next couple of days on the show of Hamid Mir. Don't whether this is his own independent initiative or something which involves PTI. Let's see...

 

[Syed1]

Faisal Vawda has promised something major in the next couple of days on the show of Hamid Mir. Don't whether this is his own independent initiative or something which involves PTI. Let's see...

We need federal rule in Karachi... These waderas of PPP are hellbent on turning it into Tharparkar.



Its so dumb that Karachi gives 14 -15 seats to PTI and PPP comes in at number three with 3 seats but they rule over us.

 

[hussain.r97]

I hope the package is something substantial. Karachi has placed massive trust in Khan, if he disappoints then we will have absolutely no one to turn to.

We need federal rule in Karachi... These waderas of PPP are hellbent on turning it into Tharparkar.



Its so dumb that Karachi gives 14 -15 seats to PTI and PPP comes in at number three with 3 seats but they rule over us.

PTI's biggest enemy in Karachi are the high expectations set by the people who voted for them. Many don't understand that PTI only have limited power in Karachi due to PPP still holding Sindh government, as well as things like waste management.

 

[Syed1]

PTI's biggest enemy in Karachi are the high expectations set by the people who voted for them. Many don't understand that PTI only have limited power in Karachi due to PPP still holding Sindh government, as well as things like waste management.

Best bet is to force Sindh government to implement new LG system that PTI is bringing out and hold free and fair elections on those.

 

[hussain.r97]

Best bet is to force Sindh government to implement new LG system that PTI is bringing out and hold free and fair elections on those.

PPP have already come out with a statement saying "PTIs LG reforms will cost too much, and in any case, the current system in Sindh works well." Jiye Bhutto!

 

[Asim_khan]

PPP have already come out with a statement saying "PTIs LG reforms will cost too much, and in any case, the current system in Sindh works well." Jiye Bhutto!

Zinda hai zinda hai zinda hai!!

Is there some way Karachi can vote itself out of Sindh? As ridiculous as that sounds, or will that need the backing of the Sindh assembly? It and Hyderabad are nothing like the rest of Sindh, total anamolies.

 

[Gollum]

PPP will never give up their golden goose Karachi which they can loot and plunder year after year. Who can convince the 'masum' people of interior Sindh to not vote for these looters again and again? Sindh will be in worse shape than Balochistan without Karachi.

 

[Maverick84]

Sindh cannot function workout Karachi.

 

[hussain.r97]

Zinda hai zinda hai zinda hai!!

Is there some way Karachi can vote itself out of Sindh? As ridiculous as that sounds, or will that need the backing of the Sindh assembly? It and Hyderabad are nothing like the rest of Sindh, total anamolies.

To turn Karachi into a province, a bill needs to be passed with a two third majority in the National Assembly, Senate, and Sindh Assembly, there is no way that is possible in the current government at least.

This is why PTI have set a goal for empowering local governments and having directly elected mayors + a few more perks for Karachi. They know getting a 2/3 majority won't happen anytime soon, so they have instead opted to try and get something done that only needs a simple majority.

Another solution (which is what MQM now proposes) is to create a new South Sindh province on an administrative basis, This new province would include Karachi, Hyderabad, Mirpurkhas, Jamshoro, Thatta, Badin, Tharparkar, and Umarkot. The issue with that (or even making a province in just Karachi) is that Sindh will pretty much not function. If a new province is made, a special deal would need to be made between Sindh and the new province, where the new province will share some responsibility in uplifting and running Sindh.

 

[Zeeraq]

PM due in Karachi tomorrow

KARACHI: Prime Minister Imran Khan is arriving in Karachi on a one day visit on Sunday.

This will be his first visit after becoming Prime Minister of Pakistan.

The prime minister would visit the mausoleum of the Quaid-i-Azam, lay a wreath and offer fateha.

He would also visit Mazar of Mohtarma Fatimah Jinnah and Shaheed-i-Millat Liaquat Ali Khan to offer fateha, Dawn learnt.

During his stay in the metropolis, the prime minister would preside over a meeting on law and order at State Guest House.

He would also address a party leaders’ meeting on the special development package for Karachi and other cities of the province.

Besides, the prime minister would also meet elites of the city and a delegation of business community leaders and get a briefing from officials concerned about on-going federal government projects in Karachi, including Green Line Bus project, K-4 water project and the ongoing operation to root out terrorism.

According to PTI sources, Prime Minister Imran Khan is expected to announce another special package to provide relief to the people.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1432987/pm-due-in-karachi-tomorrow

 

[Fineline]

Zinda hai zinda hai zinda hai!!

Is there some way Karachi can vote itself out of Sindh? As ridiculous as that sounds, or will that need the backing of the Sindh assembly? It and Hyderabad are nothing like the rest of Sindh, total anamolies.

Is there any way to take Lahore out of Punjab too or does this only apply on Sindh?Maybe Peshawar out of KPK too if possible?

 

[Fineline]

Sindh cannot function workout Karachi.

And Punjab cannot function without Lahore.Period!

 

[Maverick84]

And Punjab cannot function without Lahore.Period!

Not accurate. Lahore isn’t a financial hub. Lahore doesn’t generate a lot of revenue. Lahore has a few big textile mills but that’s about it.

 

[Asim_khan]

Not accurate. Lahore isn’t a financial hub. Lahore doesn’t generate a lot of revenue. Lahore has a few big textile mills but that’s about it.

Exactly, there's a reason why the nooras are crying blue murder at the thought of a south Punjab, As a Punjabi myself I hate to say it but Lahore is all show and zero substance when put up against Karachi. Lahore has Minar-e-Pakistan/Badshahi masjid and that's about it. Get rid of the Punjab budget and it will collapse.

 

[Fahdi]

Exactly, there's a reason why the nooras are crying blue murder at the thought of a south Punjab, As a Punjabi myself I hate to say it but Lahore is all show and zero substance when put up against Karachi. Lahore has Minar-e-Pakistan/Badshahi masjid and that's about it. Get rid of the Punjab budget and it will collapse.

Well you're kind of down playing it. Lahore is the cultural and historical center of Punjab. The difference with Sindh is that it isn't all Lahore as it is with Karachi. Punjab has Faisalabad, Multan, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Gujranwala, Sialkot as well. Many of the major factories and Industrial units are outside of the major cities. Punjab can easily be divided into 3 provinces like Punjab, South Punjab or Siraikistan and Potohar.

 

[shaaik]

PM Khan arrives in Karachi on maiden visit


Prime Minister Imran Khan arrived in Karachi on Sunday afternoon on his first visit to the metropolis since being elected premier.

Upon arrival, he was greeted by Sindh Governor Imran Ismail and Sindh Chief Minister Murad Shah.

He is expected to visit the Quaid's mausoleum to pay his respects. He will also attend several meetings and receiving briefings on various projects for Karachi, as well as attending a fundraising event for the Diamer Bhasha dam.


The PM's visit comes a day after President Arif Alvi, a former MNA from Karachi, visited the metropolis and tasked Sindh Governor Imran Ismail with monitoring federal government-funded development projects and vowed to make his hometown’s infrastructure just like other mega cities in the world.

A statement issued after the meeting quoted Alvi as saying: "The Sindh governor from now on will monitor the progress of federal government-funded development projects in Karachi and other parts of the province for their timely completion."

Governor Ismail during the meeting said that the federal government would "take into account the feedback and opinions of provincial and city governments while executing its projects."

https://www.dawn.com/news/1433280/pm-khan-arrives-in-karachi-on-maiden-visit

 

[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Best wishes to my dear brother <a href="https://twitter.com/KhurrumZamanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KhurrumZamanPTI</a> to be appointed as President Karachi. <br><br>PTI karachi delivers another promise... bringing Young leadership &#55357;&#56842;<br><br>InshaAllah we will produce better results in the karachi.</p>— • S I D R A • (@imran_sidra) <a href="https://twitter.com/imran_sidra/status/1043884721254658048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Great news for Karachi, Khurram Sherzaman becomes President of PTI Karachi, replacing Firdous Shamim Naqvi.

Finally someone young and competent, I hope he can turn things around for PTI Karachi before LG elections.

 

[hussain.r97]

Is there any way to take Lahore out of Punjab too or does this only apply on Sindh?Maybe Peshawar out of KPK too if possible?

There is a world of difference in the situation between Lahore and Karachi, the most important thing being the fact that Karachi and Hyderabad are demographically completely different to the rest of Sindh, Lahore on the other hand is demographically similar to the surrounding areas of Punjab.

Yes, maybe Punjab can be divided into Potohar, Punjab, and Siraikistan.

 

[hussain.r97]

Circular railway to run in Karachi soon: Imran Ismail

KARACHI: Sindh Governor Imran Ismail on Saturday said the government has planned to run circular railway in the metropolis.

Addressing the members of Karachi Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI), he said Minister for Railway would visit the city in this connection of October 16. The local rail service on the main line from Landhi to Cantt Station would also be made functional.

Imran Ismail said the President, Sindh Governor and various Ministers in federal cabinet belong to Karachi.

He said there was no policy of the incumbent government to harass beneficiaries of amnesty scheme.

Sindh Governor said tender notice has been issued for the procurement of fire brigade vehicles.

Measures were underway to prevent fire-related incidents in commercial centers of the city.

He announced the formation of Governor businessmen liaison committee.

He informed the KCCI members that a water desalination plant would be set up at the Karachi Port.

He asked the members of KCCI to contact him in case of any issues.

Imran Ismail said KMC vehicles along with the Solid WasteManagement were working.

He said Northern Bypass would make a six-lane road.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/377475-circular-railway-to-run-in-city-soon-imran-ismail

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Is there anything done on public housing schemes in Karachi? A lot of ppl suffer a lot in monsoon season because of poor drainage systems in slums and other relatively impoverished areas. Their furniture, the little they have, gets destroyed because of the rain and poor planning. Hope they are working on something.

 

[Syed1]

KARACHI: Sindh Governor Imran Ismail on Saturday said the government has planned to run circular railway in the metropolis.

Addressing the members of Karachi Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI), he said Minister for Railway would visit the city in this connection of October 16. The local rail service on the main line from Landhi to Cantt Station would also be made functional.

Imran Ismail said the President, Sindh Governor and various Ministers in federal cabinet belong to Karachi.

He said there was no policy of the incumbent government to harass beneficiaries of amnesty scheme.

Sindh Governor said tender notice has been issued for the procurement of fire brigade vehicles.

Measures were underway to prevent fire-related incidents in commercial centers of the city.

He announced the formation of Governor businessmen liaison committee.

He informed the KCCI members that a water desalination plant would be set up at the Karachi Port.

He asked the members of KCCI to contact him in case of any issues.

Imran Ismail said KMC vehicles along with the Solid WasteManagement were working.

He said Northern Bypass would make a six-lane road.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/377475-circular-railway-to-run-in-city-soon-imran-ismail

We have been given this chuuran of KCR government after government for the last 20-30 years. Hopefully PTI isn't like previous governments and actually works on restarting it. However, the KCR in its present state does not even cover 10% of the city. It was built at a time when all of Karachi was encompassed within it, but now Karachi has expanded far beyond its reach. Need of the hour is several underground rail lines that connect all major population centers of the city.


To give you a perspective, Delhi Metro has 8 lines and has a total of 214 stations, total length of 300km and the project was completed in three phases with total cost of approximately USD 12 billion. Now compare that with the Orange Line metro train has just 26 stations and barely covers any part of the city with total length of 27km and is costing in excess of USD 2 billion. So 1/10th of the stations, less than 1/10th of the total length but cost about 1/6th. Mashallah kuch khata hai tou lagata bhi hai.


Then we have brain dead folks come here and tell us how 30 year rule of the Sharifs was the best thing for Pakistan.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LetsCleanKHI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LetsCleanKHI</a> <br><br>We had the first meeting today lead by <a href="https://twitter.com/AliHZaidiPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AliHZaidiPTI</a> bhai.<br><br>Campaign will work in 2 phases. <br><br>Phase 1 - deep cleaning of all khi main Nallas<br><br>Phase 2 - clearing of stocked up Garbage in the city<br><br>Corporates, ngos, youth, women, professionals all are welcomed 2join <a href="https://t.co/aUWi6wdt0L">pic.twitter.com/aUWi6wdt0L</a></p>— • S I D R A • (@imran_sidra) <a href="https://twitter.com/imran_sidra/status/1157332032491597824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Need proper garbage and sewerage disposal facilities.

 

[Savak]

In my view Karachi needs to be a separate province on its own

 

[Abdullah719]

PM favours Article 140A’s full implementation to resolve Karachi’s civic issues

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan on Tuesday said the Federal Government was in favour of full implementation of Article 140A of the Constitution to address the longstanding problems of Karachi.

“The longstanding problems of Karachi cannot be solved unless the elected local government representatives of the people of Karachi become financially, politically and administratively autonomous in the spirit of the Constitution,” the prime minister said in a statement issued by by the PM House Media Wing.

The Article 140A of the Constitution states: “Each Province shall, by law, establish a local government system and devolve political, administrative and financial responsibility, and authority to the elected representatives of the local governments.”

The prime minister directed the Attorney General for Pakistan to request the Supreme Court for an early hearing and disposal of the petition pending before the august court regarding Article 140A.

https://www.brecorder.com/news/4000...plementation-to-resolve-karachis-civic-issues