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So, what do you guys think the test squad(s) should look like for the upcoming tours. I think Pak will be playing about 9 tests in the second half of this year, every where from Ireland and England to the UAE and a side looking to rebuild will have to bank a lot on the coming 6+ months.

The squad I'd go for (15 members) -

1. Sami Aslam
2. Imam Ul-Haq (much more suited to the longer format imo)
3. Azhar Ali
4. Usman Salahuddin (how is he not here already?)
5. Fawad Alam (bit obvious by now)
6. Sarfraz Ahmed c/wk
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Yasir Shah
9. Hasan Ali
10. Muhamamd Amir
11. Muhammad Abbas

Usman Khan, Sameen Gul, Hussain Talat and Fakhar Zaman
 
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So, what do you guys think the test squad(s) should look like for the upcoming tours. I think Pak will be playing about 9 tests in the second half of this year, every where from Ireland and England to the UAE and a side looking to rebuild will have to bank a lot on the coming 6+ months.

The squad I'd go for (15 members) -

1. Sami Aslam
2. Imam Ul-Haq (much more suited to the longer format imo)
3. Azhar Ali
4. Usman Salahuddin (how is he not here already?)
5. Fawad Alam (bit obvious by now)
6. Sarfraz Ahmed c/wk
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Yasir Shah
9. Hasan Ali
10. Muhamamd Amir
11. Muhammad Abbas

Usman Khan, Sameen Gul, Hussain Talat and Fakhar Zaman

I think Azhar Ali needs to open, he is our best opener. For me the team would be:

1. Azhar Ali
2. Fakhar zaman
3, Babar Azam ( i feel he is one knock away from getting his confidence in the longer format)
4. Haris Sohail (he was our most confident bat in last series, unfair to drop him)
5. Fawad Alam/usman salahuddin (i am a big fan of fawad but i am also concerned about his age now)
6. Sarfraz Ahmed
7. Faheem Ashraf (definitely needed for seaming/swinging tracks)/ Zafar Gohar (left arm option for UAE)
8. Yasir Shah
9. Rahat Ali (hes a much better test bowler then we give him credit)
10. Muhammad Abbas
11. Wahab Riaz ( hes rubbish in LOIs but one great session of reverse swing can turn the match on its head)

I havent gone with Amir since he seems reluctant for tests rather we have willing players. Hassan Ali hasnt been too convincing in tests. We should consider shaheen in a test somewhere as this would help him bulk up as well with more overs under hus belt
 
I think Azhar Ali needs to open, he is our best opener. For me the team would be:

1. Azhar Ali
2. Fakhar zaman
3, Babar Azam ( i feel he is one knock away from getting his confidence in the longer format)
4. Haris Sohail (he was our most confident bat in last series, unfair to drop him)
5. Fawad Alam/usman salahuddin (i am a big fan of fawad but i am also concerned about his age now)
6. Sarfraz Ahmed
7. Faheem Ashraf (definitely needed for seaming/swinging tracks)/ Zafar Gohar (left arm option for UAE)
8. Yasir Shah
9. Rahat Ali (hes a much better test bowler then we give him credit)
10. Muhammad Abbas
11. Wahab Riaz ( hes rubbish in LOIs but one great session of reverse swing can turn the match on its head)

I havent gone with Amir since he seems reluctant for tests rather we have willing players. Hassan Ali hasnt been too convincing in tests. We should consider shaheen in a test somewhere as this would help him bulk up as well with more overs under hus belt

I was harsh to drop Haris but I think it hs to be that way to get Usman and Fawad in. Fakhar is an underrated FC player so he gets in the squad, Hussain obviously due to his bowling. I just can't agree with Amir being dropped when he has never made any plans about missing the current season of tests, just what he would like to do in the future. Anyway, none of that is any basis to drop a top quality bowler for Wahad, who is a tested failure.

Rahat could certainly be in the squad in stead of one of the two I picked but Usman has shown so much pace and aggression which could help. Sameen is right arm and I think Pak needs someone like that.

No :asad2

Strange.

Had a complete brain freeze on that one lol

Let me re-do it

Aslam
Imam
Ali
Usman
Asad
Sarfraz c/wk
Faheem
Shah
Hasan
Amir
Abbas

Fawad, Usman, Sameen and Fakhar

Talat has to make way.
 
It's true Asad hasn't kicked on in the same way Azhar has, particularly since our last trip to England. This despite making a century in Oz - would I still have him come the first test, probably just:

Azhar
Fakhar (can score at Lord's for sure)
Haris
Babar
Asad
Sarfraz
Fahim/Shadab
Amir
Hasan
Yasir
Abbas
 
If PAK are serious about winning:

Azhar
Haris
Babar
Shafiq
Salahuddin
Talat
Sarfraz
Amir
Shadab
Hasan
Abbas (best option at the moment)
 
If PAK are serious about winning:

Azhar
Haris
Babar
Shafiq
Salahuddin
Talat
Sarfraz
Amir
Shadab
Hasan
Abbas (best option at the moment)

I like this team - be great to see what Talat/Usman can offer, and Haris is probably a good bet as an opener - although with England, particularly London, being quite batsman friendly - think Fakhar would be fine.

Shadab as permier spinner? well it is a call that is going to have to be made at some stage - as he looks to have all the tools, and the mental strength too.
 
I like this team - be great to see what Talat/Usman can offer, and Haris is probably a good bet as an opener - although with England, particularly London, being quite batsman friendly - think Fakhar would be fine.

Shadab as permier spinner? well it is a call that is going to have to be made at some stage - as he looks to have all the tools, and the mental strength too.

The thing is, its ENG in May. So overcast conditions and rain will ensure green tops. Therefore, you need your top two batsmen with the best defense and technique to open.

Yasir does not spin the ball and as seen in his only test in NZ, is ineffective on green tops. Shadab is a better package even if raw and untested. He can spin the ball, is a gun fielder (like Yasir), able lower-order batsman and about 10 years younger.
 
Lol people dropping haris for fawad. Fawad is no way near haris as a bat. Anyway it's in May so I am tempted not to play Yasir and go for Al out pace attack.

Sami
Azhar
Haris
Babar
Usman/Asad
Sarfraz
Hussain
Fahim
Amir
Hasan
Abbas/shaheen
 
If PAK are serious about winning:

Azhar
Haris
Babar
Shafiq
Salahuddin
Talat
Sarfraz
Amir
Shadab
Hasan
Abbas (best option at the moment)

Obviously it will never happen but this team can definitely beat England.

It’s a mystery why Haris has never opened the batting for Pakistan.
 
Sarfraz, Azhar, Babar and Asad are locks in the top 7.

I think this management will probably want Shehzad and Harris in there too

Bowlers will be Abbas, Amir, Hassan and Yasir.

I think the second opener spot will go to Imam

That's the most likely scenario. It will be interesting to see if management feels strongly enough about a fifth bowler to add one of the all rounders (Fahim, Shadab, Talat) in place of Imam
 
Fakhar Zaman
Ahmed Shahzad
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Asad Shafiq (last chance, else Salahuddin replaces)
Sarfraz Ahmed
Yasir Shah
Muhammad Amir
Wahab Riaz
Muhammad Abbas

Shan Masood/Sami Aslam/Saad Ali
Fawad Alam
Shadab Khan (work on him)
Hasan Ali
Junaid Khan or a spinner in Asia
 
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Sami Aslam
Azhar Ali
Usman Salahuddin
Haris Sohail
Asad Shafiq
Sarfraz Ahmed*+
Aamer Yamin
Wahab Riaz
Mohammad Amir
Yasir Shah
Mohammad Abbas
---------------------------------
Babar Azam
Imam ul-Haq
Mohammad Rizwan+
Hasan Ali
Shadab Khan
 
If PAK are serious about winning:

Azhar
Haris
Babar
Shafiq
Salahuddin
Talat
Sarfraz
Amir
Shadab
Hasan
Abbas (best option at the moment)

I have not seen Salahudin's batting. How good is he ? How about Fakhar in place of him ?
 
I have not seen Salahudin's batting. How good is he ? How about Fakhar in place of him ?

From what I have heard of him and seen in a few clips, he has the ability to survive in Test cricket at #5. He has been in the squad since the WI series last year so the management seem to think well of his skills. Hope he gets an easy debut against ZIM but would like to see him go through a baptism under fire in ENG.
 
1) Azhar Ali
2) Ahmed Shahzad
3) Harris Sohail
4) Babar Azam
5) Asad Shafiq
6) Sarfaraz Ahmed
7) Hasan Ali
8) Mohammad Amir
9) Wahab Riaz
10) Yasir Shah
11) Rahat Ali
 
1) Azhar Ali
2) Ahmed Shahzad
3) Harris Sohail
4) Babar Azam
5) Asad Shafiq
6) Sarfaraz Ahmed
7) Hasan Ali
8) Mohammad Amir
9) Wahab Riaz
10) Yasir Shah
11) Rahat Ali

Most likely that will be the squad with a few changes...

They will bring in either S. Aslam or Salahuddin at #1 or #5, respectively, to ensure batting is up to #7.

Wahab will be replaced by Abbas.

And the result: 0-2 for PAK.
 
An attack of:

Amir
Asif
Hasan
Wahab

Could win us the series. Amir and Asif to run riot with the new ball and Wahab and Hasan to run riot with the old ball. Drop Yasir.

English batting is minnow level.
 
An attack of:

Amir
Asif
Hasan
Wahab

Could win us the series. Amir and Asif to run riot with the new ball and Wahab and Hasan to run riot with the old ball. Drop Yasir.

English batting is minnow level.

Reverse will be almost impossible in these conditions. Wahab is useless. Asif is never coming back (Think you mean Abbas).
 
Reverse will be almost impossible in these conditions. Wahab is useless. Asif is never coming back (Think you mean Abbas).

Nah I mean Asif. He’s still a magician. But yeah obviously he isn’t coming back.
 
1 - Azhar Ali
2 - Ahmed Shehzad
3 - Babar Azam
4 - Fawad Alam
5 - Asad Shafiq
6 - Sarfraz Ahmed (c/wk)
7 - Shadab Khan/Imad Wasim
8 - Hasan Ali
9 - Mohd. Aamir
10 - Yasir Shah
11 - Mohd. Abbas
 
being realistic here.. that'll be our xi for eng/ire tour:

ahmed shehzad
sami aslam
azhar ali
babar azam
haris sohail
asad shafiq
sarfraz ahmed
amir
shah
hasan
abbas

reserves - wahab/rahat/usman salahuddin/saad ali
 
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Abroad:

Fakhar Zaman
Azhar Ali
Haris Sohail
Asad Shafiq/Babar Azam
Fawad Alam
Sarfraz Ahmed
Hussain Talat/Faheem
Yasir
Amir
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Abbas

Asia:
Fakhar Zaman
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Fawad Alam
Sarfraz
Shadab/Nawaz
Yasir
Hasan
Amir
Abbas


Hussain Talat as a batting all-rounder is definitely worth investing in. And if at some point both Hussain Talat and Shadab improve to the point that they can be permanent fixtures in the test team then you're looking at a very well-balanced team.
 
1.Sami Aslam
2. Azhar Ali
3. Haris sohail
4. Usman Salahuddin
5. Fawad Alam
6. Asad Shafiq
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Yasir Shah
9. Sadaf Hussain
10. Mohammad Abbas
11. Tabish khan
12. Babar azam
13. Saad Ali
14. Fahim Ashraf
15. Hasan ali
 
1) babar azam
2) azhar ali
3) haris sohail
4) fawad alam
5) asad shafiq
6) sarfraz
7) faheem
8) hasan ali
9) yasir shah
10) amir
11) abbas

12) junaid khan
13) shinwari
14) sami aslam
15) ahmed shehzad
 
Seeing a lot of people pick Haris, that too as opener, not quite sure about that but I do like the idea of Zaman as opener. He could be a real Hayden type option for Pak, the issue is, England in late May can be wet, the ball definitely swings and I'm not sure if Zaman slashing the ball in those conditions is bets. Imam is a more compact, if limited batsman, Aslam showed in Eng previously he is good enough at this level.

All of that helps Azhar settle in at 3, without the need for Babar (who should be out of the test arena, just to clear his head and set himself up for ODI games). Zaman as opener in the UAE would be great!
 
Everyone has a different test team - shows you how unsettled it is.

In that situation, I would go with new, fearless blood than depend on the likes of Asad, Fawad or Wahab.
 
Everyone has a different test team - shows you how unsettled it is.

In that situation, I would go with new, fearless blood than depend on the likes of Asad, Fawad or Wahab.

Almost everyone has the same core players, just a couple of changes in the batting line up and the odd pick for Wahab, which is weird and nothing more than wishful thinking.

the bowling line up is quite settled in reality, its just the batting that has to try and move on from MisYou, which it will given time and correct selections.

I know picking Fawad is very unlikely but Usman should get a shot. Really good FC run and just 27 years of age.
 
With all due respect, some of these batting lineups above are crazy. If you think a batting lineup with Faheem Ashraf or Hasan Ali at #7 will be strong enough to face the Dukes ball in late May-early June at Lord's and at Headingley then you're in for a shock.

We played six specialist batsmen in the UAE vs Sri Lanka and the batting still crumbled !
 
With all due respect, some of these batting lineups above are crazy. If you think a batting lineup with Faheem Ashraf or Hasan Ali at #7 will be strong enough to face the Dukes ball in late May-early June at Lord's and at Headingley then you're in for a shock.

We played six specialist batsmen in the UAE vs Sri Lanka and the batting still crumbled !

We are better against pace than spin.

Not saying i’d have Hasan at 7 though :))
 
Abroad:

Fakhar Zaman
Azhar Ali
Haris Sohail
Asad Shafiq/Babar Azam
Fawad Alam
Sarfraz Ahmed
Hussain Talat/Faheem
Yasir
Amir
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Abbas

Asia:
Fakhar Zaman
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Fawad Alam
Sarfraz
Shadab/Nawaz
Yasir
Hasan
Amir
Abbas


Hussain Talat as a batting all-rounder is definitely worth investing in. And if at some point both Hussain Talat and Shadab improve to the point that they can be permanent fixtures in the test team then you're looking at a very well-balanced team.

If PAK are serious about winning:

Azhar
Haris
Babar
Shafiq
Salahuddin
Talat
Sarfraz
Amir
Shadab
Hasan
Abbas (best option at the moment)

I like him as an LOI prospect but how many FC centuries has Hussain Talat scored to merit a Test callup ?
 
If PAK are serious about winning:

Azhar
Haris
Babar
Shafiq
Salahuddin
Talat
Sarfraz
Amir
Shadab
Hasan
Abbas (best option at the moment)

If Pakistan is serious about winning then Babar has no place in the Test team.
 
We are better against pace than spin.

Not saying i’d have Hasan at 7 though :))

How did we do in New Zealand facing Boult and Southee ? We were 16-6 in Dunedin and that was facing the white Kookaburra, not the red Dukes which swings more consistently.

All this being said about our flaky batting, England aren't much better. Our seamers should be licking their lips facing the current version of Cook, Stoneman, Vince and Malan.

The only ENG batsmen to fear are Root, Bairstow and Stokes.
 
Almost everyone has the same core players, just a couple of changes in the batting line up and the odd pick for Wahab, which is weird and nothing more than wishful thinking.

the bowling line up is quite settled in reality, its just the batting that has to try and move on from MisYou, which it will given time and correct selections.

I know picking Fawad is very unlikely but Usman should get a shot. Really good FC run and just 27 years of age.

What's wrong with selecting Wahab? Last Test inning I remember he took a 4-fer.

In his last 10 Tests he averages 31.60 at 3.55 RPO.

Current form wise, he had a good PSL too.

Why should he be dropped in the first place?
 
What's wrong with selecting Wahab? Last Test inning I remember he took a 4-fer.

In his last 10 Tests he averages 31.60 at 3.55 RPO.

Current form wise, he had a good PSL too.

Why should he be dropped in the first place?

Because after 8 years in Test cricket, he has taken a grand total of two five-wicket-hauls.
 
Because after 8 years in Test cricket, he has taken a grand total of two five-wicket-hauls.

This shows that he is consistent in his wicket taking, since he still maintains a decent average. Not someone who will take 5 in one game and 1 each in the next 3.
 
Most likely test line up:

1. Sami Aslam
2. Azhar Ali
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Asad Shafiq
6. Sarfraz Ahmed
7. Fahim Ashraf
8. Yasir Shah
9. Hassan Ali
10. Mohammed Amir
11. Mohammed Abbas
 
Most likely test line up:

1. Sami Aslam
2. Azhar Ali
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Asad Shafiq
6. Sarfraz Ahmed
7. Fahim Ashraf
8. Yasir Shah
9. Hassan Ali
10. Mohammed Amir
11. Mohammed Abbas

The batting is weak with the likes of Sami Aslam in it, and you want to play only 5 batsman.
 
Will need to get rid of deadwood Asad, Shan, Wahab

Azhar
Sami
Haris
Usman Salaudin
Saad Ali - Best FC bat out there
Saud Shakeel - Good FC average, talented, good tecnique
Sarfaraz
Hasan
Amir
Usman S/Shaeen/Abbas
Yasir

I think this team definitly has a chance of wining in England but we'll send TTFs so 2-0 on the cards.
 
This shows that he is consistent in his wicket taking, since he still maintains a decent average. Not someone who will take 5 in one game and 1 each in the next 3.
It is not acceptable for a frontline bowler who has made his debut in 2010 (which was the match where he took his 1st five-wicket-haul) to have only 1 more in the next 8 years.
 
If PAK are serious about winning:

Azhar
Haris
Babar
Shafiq
Salahuddin
Talat
Sarfraz
Amir
Shadab
Hasan
Abbas (best option at the moment)

I am willing to bet my house on the fact that Asad Shafiq will fail at no.4..
 
I am willing to bet my house on the fact that Asad Shafiq will fail at no.4..
He already has multiple times in 2016 after the 16’ ENG series. So much so that he was dropped back to #6, where he has more centuries than Gary Sobers. :ssa
 
Sami Aslam
Azhar
Harris
Babar
Shafiq
Sarfraz
Faheem
Yasir
Amir
Hasan
Abbas
 
I like him as an LOI prospect but how many FC centuries has Hussain Talat scored to merit a Test callup ?

Fair comment. I did have a look at his first class record prior to posting that and was surprised it was so poor especially after 30 matches. That being said, I think he does have a good bat and can certainly build on it. More so than the likes of Faheem and Yamin. A lot will depend on his defense and whether it's good enough for test cricket or not. There have been a lot of gifted cricketers like Yuvraj and Babar (so far) because their defense isn't solid enough.

Although Hussain Talat is more gifted, Shadab might actually end up being a better batsman in test cricket because he seems more solid. Time will tell though.
 
It is not acceptable for a frontline bowler who has made his debut in 2010 (which was the match where he took his 1st five-wicket-haul) to have only 1 more in the next 8 years.

That is a very biased view to have. Junaid (5) and Amir (3) are the only Pakistani fast bowlers to have more than 2 five-wicket hauls since Wahab's debut.

Sohail Khan and Rahat Ali have the same amount as Wahab. However, they both average higher than Wahab.
 
I like how no one is selecting Shan Masood, but also Dread the fact that he will show up shamelessly again. Asad Shafiq is another enigma, he plays one great innings every 10 test innings or so. Which means trouble for Pakistan because No Misbah & Younis are there to pick up his slack anymore.
 
That is a very biased view to have. Junaid (5) and Amir (3) are the only Pakistani fast bowlers to have more than 2 five-wicket hauls since Wahab's debut.

Sohail Khan and Rahat Ali have the same amount as Wahab. However, they both average higher than Wahab.

It does not change the statistics. Sohail Khan took 2 five-fers after a Test comeback more than 7 years in the making and within the space of 2 Test matches.

I enjoy Wahab’s spells and he did take a 4-fer’ in his last game. But there was a blue moon in the sky, Saj posted about it, and it narrated Wahab’s performance quite well.
 
Azhar
Sami
Haris
Usman
Asad
Sarfraz
Shadab
Hasan
Amir
Wahab
Rahat
Yasir can replace any of the pacer if required.
 
1. Azhar Ali
2. Salman Butt
3. Babar Azam
4. Usman Salahuddin/Harris Sohail
5. Mohammed Rizwan/Saad Ali
6. Asad Shafiq/Asif Ali
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Faheem Ashraf/ Hasan Ali
9. Mohammed Asghar/Shadab Khan
10. Mohammed Abbas
11. Yasir Shah

The slots with just one player indicate solid selection.
 
1. Azhar Ali
2. Salman Butt
3. Babar Azam
4. Usman Salahuddin/Harris Sohail
5. Mohammed Rizwan/Saad Ali
6. Asad Shafiq/Asif Ali
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Faheem Ashraf/ Hasan Ali
9. Mohammed Asghar/Shadab Khan
10. Mohammed Abbas
11. Yasir Shah

The slots with just one player indicate solid selection.
Salman Butt :)))
 
Salman Butt :)))

He just had one little mistake, and he dearly apologized. He has been performing superbly in domestic cricket. We have seen glimpses of him in international cricket, and we know he isn’t a domestic bully. I’m sure he’ll do well in the green & star cap. Can you suggest some other opener perhaps?
 
He just had one little mistake, and he dearly apologized. He has been performing superbly in domestic cricket. We have seen glimpses of him in international cricket, and we know he isn’t a domestic bully. I’m sure he’ll do well in the green & star cap. Can you suggest some other opener perhaps?

I already did.
 
What's wrong with selecting Wahab? Last Test inning I remember he took a 4-fer.

In his last 10 Tests he averages 31.60 at 3.55 RPO.

Current form wise, he had a good PSL too.

Why should he be dropped in the first place?

He is the wrong side of 30, has often been too expensive and Pakistan are looking to build a test side that can take them through the next 2-3 years, not the nest 2-3 series.

With so many young fast bowlers and spinners coming through the ranks, I don't think Wahab's place is warranted anymore.
 
He just had one little mistake, and he dearly apologized. He has been performing superbly in domestic cricket. We have seen glimpses of him in international cricket, and we know he isn’t a domestic bully. I’m sure he’ll do well in the green & star cap. Can you suggest some other opener perhaps?

Butt was captain and forced his youngest team mate to cheat. That's not "one little mistake" and I still don't remember a sincere apology from him, I do remember him and Asif touting English conspiracies, newspaper conspiracies and claiming they were innocent. Even when found guilty he could not be honest. I'm appalled he is even playing domestic cricket at this stage.
 
Test squad for Ire/English tour

Azhar Ali
Sami Aslam
Haris Sohail
Asad Shafiq
Salahuddin
Saad Ali
Sarfraz
Amir
Hasan
Yasir
Abbas

Shadab,Faheem,Fawad,Fakhar
 
Test squad for Ire/English tour

Azhar Ali
Sami Aslam
Haris Sohail
Asad Shafiq
Salahuddin
Saad Ali
Sarfraz
Amir
Hasan
Yasir
Abbas

Shadab,Faheem,Fawad,Fakhar

Saad may be a very good pick but I'm not sure about only have 4 bowlers. Pak has shown it's weakness by not having a 5th bowler, now with Faheem's arrival they should be picking him. He can play a bit of a holding role, bowl maybe 10 overs an innings and score 20-30 in the lower order.
 
Saad may be a very good pick but I'm not sure about only have 4 bowlers. Pak has shown it's weakness by not having a 5th bowler, now with Faheem's arrival they should be picking him. He can play a bit of a holding role, bowl maybe 10 overs an innings and score 20-30 in the lower order.

Its only two Tests though and we haven't played much red ball cricket lately so a four man attack should handle the workload. We have Haris as a fifth bowler/part-timer if needed.

Given how poor England's batting is and the cool late May/early June weather hopefully we won't be out on the field for long stretches anyway.

Plus our batting is just so flimsy we have no option but to play six specialist batsmen.
 
Saad may be a very good pick but I'm not sure about only have 4 bowlers. Pak has shown it's weakness by not having a 5th bowler, now with Faheem's arrival they should be picking him. He can play a bit of a holding role, bowl maybe 10 overs an innings and score 20-30 in the lower order.

Yes but the problem is that where should we slot Faheem?I'm all for having an all-rounder but unless Salahuddin or Saad are benched we can't have Faheem in the XI.And we need genuine batsmen as the conditions in May will be a lot tougher for the batsmen than they were in our last tour.
 
Its only two Tests though and we haven't played much red ball cricket lately so a four man attack should handle the workload. We have Haris as a fifth bowler/part-timer if needed.

Given how poor England's batting is and the cool late May/early June weather hopefully we won't be out on the field for long stretches anyway.

Plus our batting is just so flimsy we have no option but to play six specialist batsmen.

3 tests if you take in Ireland BUT I wasn't necessarily talking about the workload alone. I mean none of the 4 current bowlers are consistently massive wicket takers (Shah has a phenomenal record but as a leggy he needs a lot of support), especially the pace bowlers, with Amir being very defensive these days, Abbas particularly new and Hasan still finding his feet. Having a 5th option really helps. Sohail can still bowl even with Faheem in the side, providing a second spin option.
 
Most likely that will be the squad with a few changes...

They will bring in either S. Aslam or Salahuddin at #1 or #5, respectively, to ensure batting is up to #7.

Wahab will be replaced by Abbas.

And the result: 0-2 for PAK.

I believe Hasan Ali could be handy with the bat. Need 4 good pacers to put pressure on England.
 
Yes but the problem is that where should we slot Faheem?I'm all for having an all-rounder but unless Salahuddin or Saad are benched we can't have Faheem in the XI.And we need genuine batsmen as the conditions in May will be a lot tougher for the batsmen than they were in our last tour.

Thats why I picked this side:

Aslam
Imam
Ali
Usman
Asad
Sarfraz c/wk
Faheem
Shah
Hasan
Amir
Abbas

Faheem slots in at 7, with 5 full time batsman and Sarfraz above him.
 
Thats why I picked this side:

Aslam
Imam
Ali
Usman
Asad
Sarfraz c/wk
Faheem
Shah
Hasan
Amir
Abbas

Faheem slots in at 7, with 5 full time batsman and Sarfraz above him.

Hmm.Thats a good squad but I'd rather have Azhar Ali open and Harris at 3.Sami played well in England last time around and also showed capability in NZ.So I'd choose him over Imam.Haris can also provide some support to Yasir,provided he is fit.
 
Lol@ Talat in there 🤦🏽*♂️
Middle order must have Fawad,Shafiq& Salaudin.. Yasir my 1st pick but have a feeling Shadaab could play a role as I rate his batting ,Sohail,Abbas& Amir with maybe SSA or Hassan that’s 4 quicks ... Faheem with an outside chance
 
1. Azhar Ali
2. Imam
3. Haris
4. Asad
5. Fawad Alam
6. Saad Ali
7. Sarfraz
8. Yasir
9. Abbas
10. Hasan
11. Sadaf

12. Rahat Ali
13. Usman Salluhuddin
14. Shan Masood
15. Ashgar

Feel like we almost have to pick separate XIs for tests and ODIs these days. A lot of our players either don't want to play tests, or are just LOI specialists, or forcing them to play all three formats might result in injury. Let Babar focus on LOI for now, get back his ODI form without the pressure of tests. We're sorely lacking in experience in tests, so for now rely on the experienced players from first class.

While Fakhar arguably could push for a place, probably best to let him focus on playing LOI for now especially when we rely on him to up the run rate/be a bit more reckless.
 
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Hmm.Thats a good squad but I'd rather have Azhar Ali open and Harris at 3.Sami played well in England last time around and also showed capability in NZ.So I'd choose him over Imam.Haris can also provide some support to Yasir,provided he is fit.

Already have Aslam in the side (Sami Aslam). Plus, with regards to Azhar, he is such a commanding no.3 when he gets going and has played 47 of his 62 tests in the position, so why mess that up? I'd rather two openers, bleed in someone young like Imam or Fakhar, do their jobs. Remember, the number 3 position is a specialist position and I'm not sure Haris has nay place being there when he has batted at 6 in his short career so far. It's not even like he is a specialist 3 in ODIs.
 
A question for everyone picking Haris, has he really played that well in the FC circuit? And what makes you guys think he is a number 3?
 
A question for everyone picking Haris, has he really played that well in the FC circuit? And what makes you guys think he is a number 3?

Lol what he was our best player against SL in uae and he is our best player of swing so best postion is number 3 for him
 
Pakistan Test Squad For Upcoming Series Against England

In My Opinion..........

1.Fawad Alam
2.Azhar Ali
3.Umar Amin
4.Asad Shafiq
5.Harris Sohail
6.Sarfraz Ahmad
7.Faheem Ashraf
8.Hassan Ali
9.Yasir Shah
10.Rahat Ali
11.Mohammad Asghar

12.Sami Aslam
13.Adnan Akmal
14.Mohammad Abbas
15.Wahab Riaz
 
In My Opinion..........

1.Fawad Alam
2.Azhar Ali
3.Umar Amin
4.Asad Shafiq
5.Harris Sohail
6.Sarfraz Ahmad
7.Faheem Ashraf
8.Hassan Ali
9.Yasir Shah
10.Rahat Ali
11.Mohammad Asghar

12.Sami Aslam
13.Adnan Akmal
14.Mohammad Abbas
15.Wahab Riaz

wow...that is out there

No Amir, no Hasan? Fawad opens? Umar Amin?


Crazy choices lol
 
1. Azhar Ali
2. Salman Butt
3. Babar Azam
4. Usman Salahuddin/Harris Sohail
5. Mohammed Rizwan/Saad Ali
6. Asad Shafiq/Asif Ali
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Faheem Ashraf/ Hasan Ali
9. Mohammed Asghar/Shadab Khan
10. Mohammed Abbas/Rahat Ali
11. Yasir Shah

Slight change
 
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want Azhar Ali opening given his average of 55 batting at this spot following a wonderful series in Aus and having scored a triple hundred which takes great powers of concentration whether it be a road or not. A triple hundred is a triple hundred remember!

The reason why I am not going to name an XI is because there is no one good enough to partner him. Sami Aslam is just awful.
 
My views on the positions that are up for grabs:

Opening:
I believe they opened with Shan Masood in the SL series . . His returns weren't all that great but then they weren't great for any one in the series . . Plus, Shan has piled on the runs in domestic cricket since . . so, I would be willing to give him another chance . . another reason also being, I don't see any other opener doing much better than him any way . . Imam, Ahmad Shehzad, Sami Aslam . . I think all will struggle . . and hence, I will retain Shan Masood and Sami Aslam in the squad . . Who actually starts depends on how the 2 play in the warm up games and who looks more comfortable I suppose . .

The other opening spot has to go to Azhar . . I don't like him at 3 . . I think many people have mentioned that above as well . . plus, a lot of his very good scores have come as an opener . . he has been solid . . and in early english conditions, you need an Azhar Ali to go and blunt the new ball . .

Middle Order:
The curious case of Babar Azam in test matches . . I still don't have an answer as to why Babar Azam hasn't yet translated his LOI form into test matches . . and the only theory I have is that he is TOO CONFUSED on how to play . . He is a stroke maker . . someone who likes to score . . who's game is not like an azhar ali . . and I feel like he goes and tries to be way too circumspect in test matches . . My gut is that if he plays his natural game, he is far more likely to succeed . . which means going at a strike rate of 60 ish . . rather than 30 40 . . Purely on performance, Babar doesn't deserve to be in the team . . but on potential, ability and seeing what's available on the bench . . I would like to persist with him in England . . Hopefully he comes good . . Secondly, he has to bat at number 3! that's his spot . . if he doesn't succeed at number 3, then send him back to domestic . . you can't keep changing his position around and be like hooefully he will find a number that he's good at . . not how things work . .

Leaving the other

Number 6/7:
For me, if Pakistan is to become a top test side . . then they absolutely need to have a number 7 who is an alrounder . . the 6 batsman, wk and 4 bowlers puts way tooo much pressure on the bowlers . . and its even worse when you're not playing on spinning tracks where you pick 2 spinners and expect them to do bulk of hte bolwing . . This person needs to do a job of a Ben Stokes, Mitch Marsh, Hardik Pandya . . This also ensures your main bowlers are fresh when they are asked to give a spell and Mo Amir isn't bowling 130 kph . . Hence, I believe it is imperative for Pakistan to pick and allrounder in this series and get the combination right . . For me, Sarfaraz has to move up to number 6 and take more responsibliites. . number 7 has to be your best batting (fast bowling) allrounder in the country . . if that's hussain talat, then he needs to be playing . . if thats Amir Yamin, then him . . if thats Faheem Ashraf, then him . . but its your best batting allrounder who can give you an economical 10 overs a day . .

Hence my team would be:

Shan/Sami
Azhar
Babar
Harris
Asad Shafiq
Sarfaraz Ahmad
Hussain Talat/Amir Yamin/Faheem Ashraf
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Yasir Shah
Mohammad Abbas
 
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want Azhar Ali opening given his average of 55 batting at this spot following a wonderful series in Aus and having scored a triple hundred which takes great powers of concentration whether it be a road or not. A triple hundred is a triple hundred remember!

The reason why I am not going to name an XI is because there is no one good enough to partner him. Sami Aslam is just awful.

Ali has spent the vast majority of his career at 3 and although he is certainly good enough to open ,I'd feel more comfortable if we had a number 3 like him. That would leave someone to partner with Sami, who is very very good. Just 2, a half century in England, top score of 90, I dunno why you'd say he isn't. Someone like that deserves some chances on the international stage.

Who partners sami is up for debate...

My views on the positions that are up for grabs:

Opening:
I believe they opened with Shan Masood in the SL series . . His returns weren't all that great but then they weren't great for any one in the series . . Plus, Shan has piled on the runs in domestic cricket since . . so, I would be willing to give him another chance . . another reason also being, I don't see any other opener doing much better than him any way . . Imam, Ahmad Shehzad, Sami Aslam . . I think all will struggle . . and hence, I will retain Shan Masood and Sami Aslam in the squad . . Who actually starts depends on how the 2 play in the warm up games and who looks more comfortable I suppose . .

The other opening spot has to go to Azhar . . I don't like him at 3 . . I think many people have mentioned that above as well . . plus, a lot of his very good scores have come as an opener . . he has been solid . . and in early english conditions, you need an Azhar Ali to go and blunt the new ball . .

Middle Order:
The curious case of Babar Azam in test matches . . I still don't have an answer as to why Babar Azam hasn't yet translated his LOI form into test matches . . and the only theory I have is that he is TOO CONFUSED on how to play . . He is a stroke maker . . someone who likes to score . . who's game is not like an azhar ali . . and I feel like he goes and tries to be way too circumspect in test matches . . My gut is that if he plays his natural game, he is far more likely to succeed . . which means going at a strike rate of 60 ish . . rather than 30 40 . . Purely on performance, Babar doesn't deserve to be in the team . . but on potential, ability and seeing what's available on the bench . . I would like to persist with him in England . . Hopefully he comes good . . Secondly, he has to bat at number 3! that's his spot . . if he doesn't succeed at number 3, then send him back to domestic . . you can't keep changing his position around and be like hooefully he will find a number that he's good at . . not how things work . .

Leaving the other

Number 6/7:
For me, if Pakistan is to become a top test side . . then they absolutely need to have a number 7 who is an alrounder . . the 6 batsman, wk and 4 bowlers puts way tooo much pressure on the bowlers . . and its even worse when you're not playing on spinning tracks where you pick 2 spinners and expect them to do bulk of hte bolwing . . This person needs to do a job of a Ben Stokes, Mitch Marsh, Hardik Pandya . . This also ensures your main bowlers are fresh when they are asked to give a spell and Mo Amir isn't bowling 130 kph . . Hence, I believe it is imperative for Pakistan to pick and allrounder in this series and get the combination right . . For me, Sarfaraz has to move up to number 6 and take more responsibliites. . number 7 has to be your best batting (fast bowling) allrounder in the country . . if that's hussain talat, then he needs to be playing . . if thats Amir Yamin, then him . . if thats Faheem Ashraf, then him . . but its your best batting allrounder who can give you an economical 10 overs a day . .

Hence my team would be:

Shan/Sami
Azhar
Babar
Harris
Asad Shafiq
Sarfaraz Ahmad
Hussain Talat/Amir Yamin/Faheem Ashraf
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Yasir Shah
Mohammad Abbas

I dont agree with all of that but very good reasoning throughout. I also believe those are the positions up for debate and change. Would love to see Babar perform but I think he needs a bit of time away from the test arena, like Kohli and Root before him.
 
Azhar
Sami
Babar
Haris
Shafiq
Usman/Saad/Fawad/Fakhar/Yamin/Amin
Sarfraz
Amir
Hasan
Yasir
Abbas

90% sure Mickey will go with this
 
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