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Great initiative from PCB, but why not have this tri-series in 2024? What do you guys think about this initiative from PCB?

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Chairman PCB Mohsin Naqvi met the Chairman of Cricket South Africa (CSA), Mr Lawson Naidoo and the Chairman of New Zealand Cricket (NZC), Mr Roger Twose.

The agenda of the meeting included the ODI Tri-series between Pakistan, New Zealand and South Africa, to be held in February 2025 in Pakistan, just before the ICC Champions Trophy. The Tri-series was finalised and welcomed by the host and both the member boards.

Chairman PCB also extended an invitation to Mr Roger Twose and Mr Lawson Naidoo to visit Pakistan.

Pakistan Cricket Board last hosted a tri-series in October 2004, where Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe were the other two teams in the event.

Chairman PCB Mohsin Naqvi: “The Tri-series between Pakistan, South Africa and New Zealand will be an exciting event and it is after a long time that Pakistan will host such a tournament. I would like to thank the heads of NZC and CSA for agreeing to participate in the Tri-series. The PCB is also looking forward to hosting the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 which will be a great pleasure for Pakistan to host the top eight ODI teams on its soil.”

PCB
 
FearlessRoar said:
Great initiative from PCB, but why not have this tri-series in 2024? What do you guys think about this initiative from PCB?
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Maybe 2024 was already packed with FTP commitments for these sides, 2025 has Champions Trophy so these teams would want to get exposure to Pak conditions just before the tournament.

Schedules are decided months to years in advance, unprofessional to have last minute scheduling because of logistics involved.

SA and NZ will benefit from this arrangement, as warm ups before CT. PCB should push for a similar tournament in SA before the 2027 WC.
 
It will be a triseries with SA B team participating because SAT20 is scheduled in that slot so not sure if it it is a win situation for PCB
 
Kianig89 said:
It will be a triseries with SA B team participating because SAT20 is scheduled in that slot so not sure if it it is a win situation for PCB
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This time SA T20 was wrapped up by February 10. They can schedule it after that, SA won't miss out the opportunity to gain an advantage over other sides in playing in Pak conditions, just before a major ICC tournament in Pak.
 
Should be an exciting series. Not much at stake but atleast we’ll get to see some competitive cricket and where we stand prior to 2025 CT
 
FearlessRoar said:
Great initiative from PCB, but why not have this tri-series in 2024? What do you guys think about this initiative from PCB?

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Chairman PCB Mohsin Naqvi met the Chairman of Cricket South Africa (CSA), Mr Lawson Naidoo and the Chairman of New Zealand Cricket (NZC), Mr Roger Twose.

The agenda of the meeting included the ODI Tri-series between Pakistan, New Zealand and South Africa, to be held in February 2025 in Pakistan, just before the ICC Champions Trophy. The Tri-series was finalised and welcomed by the host and both the member boards.

Chairman PCB also extended an invitation to Mr Roger Twose and Mr Lawson Naidoo to visit Pakistan.

Pakistan Cricket Board last hosted a tri-series in October 2004, where Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe were the other two teams in the event.

Chairman PCB Mohsin Naqvi: “The Tri-series between Pakistan, South Africa and New Zealand will be an exciting event and it is after a long time that Pakistan will host such a tournament. I would like to thank the heads of NZC and CSA for agreeing to participate in the Tri-series. The PCB is also looking forward to hosting the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 which will be a great pleasure for Pakistan to host the top eight ODI teams on its soil.”

PCB
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Would have been better, had it happened in 2024 but still not bad.
 
Interesting. Even in the era of peak ODI cricket, tournaments were extremely rare in Pakistan.

There have probably only been 3 ODI tournaments ever in Pakistan and Pakistan didn't win any of them.
 
Awesome! We need more tri-series. Bilateral have gotten pretty boring.
 
Haven't seen one of these in a while, great initiative
 
Good revival of the TRI series.... it gets more interesting unlike just bilateral series which can be quite boring sometimes.
 
Should be entertaining to watch and all teams will likely be going full strength in preparation for CT.

I would like to see more tri & quad series type mini tournaments but boards should work together to make it happen on a neutral venue so that you get maximum amount of fans & profit. For example, I am how many people will be coming to see a NZ vs SA ODI in Pakistan. Pakistan struggle to pack the stadiums when Pakistan is playing so I don't know what its going to look like when they're not involved.

Would like to see a quad series in England involving Aus/Pakistan/NZ or SA (obviously India instead of NZ/SA would be ideal but my guess is they would decline any tourney/series like that involving Pakistan). That should get stadiums packed regardless in those types of matches and it would be fun & competitive.
 
Pakistan playing against New Zealand and SOuth Africa. nothing can get better than playing against 2 top teams before an ICC event. Waiting for it now. Pakistan is not playing that many ODIs as well so it will be a good outing.
 
topspin said:
If this does go ahead, do you know what I’m thinking? 🤔
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That it'll be a good wakeup call for RizBar before the Champions trophy? Or is there a Misbah connection that I'm not aware of? Hmmmm
 
daytrader said:
That it'll be a good wakeup call for RizBar before the Champions trophy? Or is there a Misbah connection that I'm not aware of? Hmmmm
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I was thinking cut another cake as you're quite fond of this celebration.
 
topspin said:
I was thinking cut another cake as you're quite fond of this celebration.
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Haha I'm not the only one who likes cakes. Some people like to celebrate themselves after losing a match. Guess who this is

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Wow like old times.

Wi Aus Pak Carlton series is still
my fav tri series tilldate, highest quality cricket and broadcasting wise
 
Lets see if India now tries to influence South Africa to withdraw from this tri series because South Africa mostly follows what India suggests them to do.
 
Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board, Mohsin Naqvi, met with the Chief Executive Officer of New Zealand Cricket, Scott Wink (Mr. Scott Weenink), to discuss the Pakistan-New Zealand cricket series and plans for cricket events in New Zealand next year. It was revealed that the Pakistan cricket team would visit New Zealand after the Champions Trophy to play 5 T20 and 3 ODI matches.

Additionally, it was announced that the New Zealand cricket team would visit Pakistan before the Champions Trophy to participate in a 3-nation series.

The meeting was attended by Chief Operating Officer of PCB, Salman Naseer, and Director of International Cricket, Usman Wahla.
 
PCB has announced the schedule for the Tri-series.

New Zealand and South Africa will participate in an ODI tri-series in Multan from 8-14 February.

8 Feb – Pakistan v New Zealand, Multan

10 Feb – New Zealand v South Africa, Multan

12 Feb – Pakistan v South Africa, Multan

14 Feb – Final, Multan
 
BouncerGuy said:
PCB has announced the schedule for the Tri-series.

New Zealand and South Africa will participate in an ODI tri-series in Multan from 8-14 February.

8 Feb – Pakistan v New Zealand, Multan

10 Feb – New Zealand v South Africa, Multan

12 Feb – Pakistan v South Africa, Multan

14 Feb – Final, Multan
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Good practices for Pakistan, NZ and South Africa just before champion Trophy
 
Will be Xciting series ...& Good chance for all teams to get their combos right before the CT
 
BouncerGuy said:
PCB has announced the schedule for the Tri-series.

New Zealand and South Africa will participate in an ODI tri-series in Multan from 8-14 February.

8 Feb – Pakistan v New Zealand, Multan

10 Feb – New Zealand v South Africa, Multan

12 Feb – Pakistan v South Africa, Multan

14 Feb – Final, Multan
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Single round robin so only two ODIs if you don't make the final. Not much of a preparation for CT25. Then again you don't want a long tournament and risk injuries as we saw with Naseem before the 23 WC.
 
This should be a great preparation for all 3 teams. Hopefully NZ will send in a full side.
 
sweep_shot said:
This should be a great preparation for all 3 teams. Hopefully NZ will send in a full side.
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They have to. There is no excuse. The champions trophy will be a few days away. Teams would want their best squad to practice.
 
sweep_shot said:
I fully agree. I think it is in their best interests to send in full teams considering CT is in Pakistan.
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If they are serious about winning an ICC event then they should send in full strength. Both South Africa and New Zealand.
 
BouncerGuy said:
If they are serious about winning an ICC event then they should send in full strength. Both South Africa and New Zealand.
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NZ is 100% sending full strength now, They won't make the mistake of not playing international cricket for ages and get hunilated and butchered at world cups a 2nd time.
 
BouncerGuy said:
If they are serious about winning an ICC event then they should send in full strength. Both South Africa and New Zealand.
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I agree with you.

Even though I do not think South Africa or New Zealand will win the CT, they should prepare their best.
 
This is good from South Africa. They'll get valuable match practice before CT.

They are one of 3 teams who should be favourites to win CT along with India and Australia.

Maybe England have an outside chance but I don't think other sides have any chance to be honest.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
This is good from South Africa. They'll get valuable match practice before CT.

They are one of 3 teams who should be favourites to win CT along with India and Australia.

Maybe England have an outside chance but I don't think other sides have any chance to be honest.
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LOL at SA being favorites. They may fail to win even if they need 2 runs from 24 balls.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
That still makes them favourites ahead of teams that won't even qualify for the semis .

For sheer skill level, they are ahead of the rest
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I expect final to be between India and Australia with Aussies winning it in an one-sided manner (repeat of 2023 WC final).
 
sweep_shot said:
LOL at SA being favorites. They may fail to win even if they need 2 runs from 24 balls.
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Just a day prior to the Ind vs SA Final, you had labelled SA as clear favourites over India citing various parameters. In a matter of one week, your stance has changed to : "SA can never be favourites as they may even fail to get 2 runs from 24 balls"
 
TheRock said:
Just a day prior to the Ind vs SA Final, you had labelled SA as clear favourites over India citing various parameters. In a matter of one week, your stance has changed to : "SA can never be favourites as they may even fail to get 2 runs from 24 balls"
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I thought SA changed but seems like that is not the case. They failed to score 30 runs off 30 balls with 6 wickets in hand. It should've been a walk in the park.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
This is good from South Africa. They'll get valuable match practice before CT.

They are one of 3 teams who should be favourites to win CT along with India and Australia.

Maybe England have an outside chance but I don't think other sides have any chance to be honest.
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Pakistan can win CT if you tell babar to F off. As they are defending champions and every wrote them off in 2017 as well.

Assuming CT is odi, CT is the one format where upsets have historically happened due to the criteria being winning a few good games to win the trophy and obviously not playing every single team in the tournament like pakistan avoided Australia last time.

Even Afghanistan can win as realistically they got more chances to win CT then making it into semi finals of T20 World Cup.

Pakistan is home team and assuming the format will remain odi and won't become t20, Then odi is a stronger format for pakistan.

Fakhar in odi opens and he kicks off here and their unlike in t20 where he never kicks off at no 4. Abdullah shafiq is pretty good tbf, young and inexperienced but I sense this kid will improve SR. Babar at no 3 is fine. Replace rizwam with saud shakeel and have no 5, no 6 and no 7 be solid young bloods and fix your bowling then pakistan can pull another ct 2017.

Unlike t20 which is a damage beyond repair atm, Odi can be fixed if you remove the guilty party and so can test. Just hope Babar and rizwan F off.
 
mominsaigol said:
Pakistan can win CT if you tell babar to F off. As they are defending champions and every wrote them off in 2017 as well.

Assuming CT is odi, CT is the one format where upsets have historically happened due to the criteria being winning a few good games to win the trophy and obviously not playing every single team in the tournament like pakistan avoided Australia last time.

Even Afghanistan can win as realistically they got more chances to win CT then making it into semi finals of T20 World Cup.

Pakistan is home team and assuming the format will remain odi and won't become t20, Then odi is a stronger format for pakistan.

Fakhar in odi opens and he kicks off here and their unlike in t20 where he never kicks off at no 4. Abdullah shafiq is pretty good tbf, young and inexperienced but I sense this kid will improve SR. Babar at no 3 is fine. Replace rizwam with saud shakeel and have no 5, no 6 and no 7 be solid young bloods and fix your bowling then pakistan can pull another ct 2017.

Unlike t20 which is a damage beyond repair atm, Odi can be fixed if you remove the guilty party and so can test. Just hope Babar and rizwan F off.
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Similar arguments were made before the World Cup in India. But then the recently #1 ranked side tanked big time in the Asia Cup and then continued to flop in India

Pakistan can still won of course but they won't start favourites.
 
Early February is the timeline for this series, when SA will be having SAt20 which is basically a championship format of IPL, where all top tier SA and NZ players will be busy.Not sure sponsors will fancy this idea
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Similar arguments were made before the World Cup in India. But then the recently #1 ranked side tanked big time in the Asia Cup and then continued to flop in India

Pakistan can still won of course but they won't start favourites.
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Those similar arguments were not made by Me, I am built different.

That's why I said remove bobby and rizzu.

The problem with 2023 was 2 things

A) Bowling was atrocious, the bowlers weren't fit enough to bowl 10 overs and Misbah the genuis didn't bother grooming people since 2020.

B) The line up of Abdullah, Imam, Babar, Rizwan, Saud, Chacha, Shadab and nawaz was never going to work.

This is a test line up and the whole plan of let's anchor for 30 and chase 170 in the next 20 was faulty because unlike t20, wickets have likely fallen, the ball is older and PP rules don't apply for the first 6.

This strategy worked once for pakistan against sri lanka only.

The same argument can be made for Afghanistan, no one except me and Brain lara thought that Afghanistan would reach Semi's but alas.

For Afghanistan to win CT they just need to be consistent in a few games while avoiding India. The same way pakistan won ct 2017 but being consistent in a few games and avoiding Australia who they would lose to in semi's 10 out of 10x.
 
mominsaigol said:
Pakistan can win CT if you tell babar to F off. As they are defending champions and every wrote them off in 2017 as well.
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Issue is in eng, left arm pacers ran havoc.In sc, at most 1 or 2 overs of swing will get you 1 or 2 wickets at max.Sena and India teams can bat till 8 and will score atleast 350 on those pattas.unless fakhar scores every time,pak will fail against batting sides.In a sense,it's like bangalore match again.
 
Vikram1989 said:
Issue is in eng, left arm pacers ran havoc.In sc, at most 1 or 2 overs of swing will get you 1 or 2 wickets at max.Sena and India teams can bat till 8 and will score atleast 350 on those pattas.unless fakhar scores every time,pak will fail against batting sides.In a sense,it's like bangalore match again.
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Yeah on roads pakistan is badly outgunned.

Australia will be king on flat tracks.
 
mominsaigol said:
Those similar arguments were not made by Me, I am built different.

That's why I said remove bobby and rizzu.

The problem with 2023 was 2 things

A) Bowling was atrocious, the bowlers weren't fit enough to bowl 10 overs and Misbah the genuis didn't bother grooming people since 2020.

B) The line up of Abdullah, Imam, Babar, Rizwan, Saud, Chacha, Shadab and nawaz was never going to work.

This is a test line up and the whole plan of let's anchor for 30 and chase 170 in the next 20 was faulty because unlike t20, wickets have likely fallen, the ball is older and PP rules don't apply for the first 6.

This strategy worked once for pakistan against sri lanka only.

The same argument can be made for Afghanistan, no one except me and Brain lara thought that Afghanistan would reach Semi's but alas.

For Afghanistan to win CT they just need to be consistent in a few games while avoiding India. The same way pakistan won ct 2017 but being consistent in a few games and avoiding Australia who they would lose to in semi's 10 out of 10x.
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Pakistan don't have the quality of players to replace Babar and Rizwan.

The rest are even more unproven.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Pakistan don't have the quality of players to replace Babar and Rizwan.

The rest are even more unproven.
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And how did pakistan win ct 2017? By bringing in a debutant who was unproven in place of experienced shehzad?
 
mominsaigol said:
And how did pakistan win ct 2017? By bringing in a debutant who was unproven in place of experienced shehzad?
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The criticism about Babar and Rizwan is very valid in T20Is. But for ODI cricket, their game is perfect. They can bat at a healthy SR, hit boundaries and rotate the strike consistently. Babar is probably one of the best ODI batters in the world and has been for years. One bad WC does not discount the quality he possesses. Rizwan too has finally come into his own as an ODI batter in the WC and played one of ATG Pak ODI knocks against Sri Lanka in that tournament. Pakistan's biggest problem is 5, 6, 7. Nobody has been able to establish themselves there.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
The criticism about Babar and Rizwan is very valid in T20Is. But for ODI cricket, their game is perfect. They can bat at a healthy SR, hit boundaries and rotate the strike consistently. Babar is probably one of the best ODI batters in the world and has been for years. One bad WC does not discount the quality he possesses. Rizwan too has finally come into his own as an ODI batter in the WC and played one of ATG Pak ODI knocks against Sri Lanka in that tournament. Pakistan's biggest problem is 5, 6, 7. Nobody has been able to establish themselves there.
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He's going to need to spend the next 5 months running the team into high fitness. No other way to get up to par.
 
zn426 said:
He's going to need to spend the next 5 months running the team into high fitness. No other way to get up to par.
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Fitness levels vary player to player. Some are fine. Some probably need to start living in the gym or something.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
The criticism about Babar and Rizwan is very valid in T20Is. But for ODI cricket, their game is perfect. They can bat at a healthy SR, hit boundaries and rotate the strike consistently. Babar is probably one of the best ODI batters in the world and has been for years. One bad WC does not discount the quality he possesses. Rizwan too has finally come into his own as an ODI batter in the WC and played one of ATG Pak ODI knocks against Sri Lanka in that tournament. Pakistan's biggest problem is 5, 6, 7. Nobody has been able to establish themselves there.
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Yeah. agreed.

No one can replace Babar, especially in ODIs. RIzwan's track record in recent times is also good in this format.

We need to find middle-order batter in this format as well. Saud Shakeel and Salman are there and I think we need 1 more guy who can be both a basher and can stay on crease to hold one end when needed.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
The criticism about Babar and Rizwan is very valid in T20Is. But for ODI cricket, their game is perfect. They can bat at a healthy SR, hit boundaries and rotate the strike consistently. Babar is probably one of the best ODI batters in the world and has been for years. One bad WC does not discount the quality he possesses. Rizwan too has finally come into his own as an ODI batter in the WC and played one of ATG Pak ODI knocks against Sri Lanka in that tournament. Pakistan's biggest problem is 5, 6, 7. Nobody has been able to establish themselves there.
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The problem in the world cup was having a top 6 of

1) Abdullah
2) Imam
3) Babar
4) Rizwan
5) Saud
6) Chacha

This lineup was badly exposed when falhar came into the mix.

This issue with this lineup is that it's a test lineup and obviously would have never worked on batting paradise pitches where quinton is smacking 4 centuries for fun.

Pakistan's strategy in every game that they were chasing was to get 170 in the first 30 overs and and chase 150 to 180 in the last 20 and approach it as a t20 game.

On paper this works, but logically it won't. It worked once during the sri lanka game, but crashed like a house of cards againat australia and England for obvious reasons.

As odi isn't t20, when 30 pvers are bowled, unless the top order is a superman every innings, likely wickets have fallen, and unlike t20 theirs no PP rule of having only 2 fielders outside the inner ring + ball is softer and older so a bit of reverse and more spin by this point.

The Approach is outdated plain and simple. I agree that unlike t20 rizwan and babar aren't the main issue, but in odi you need to have a mix of Strikers and accumulators. You can't have all accumulators or all strikers, as all strikers will occasionally get you 400 but will usually collapse like a house of cards. This use to be the issue qith England which is why root and stokes were brought on.

And you can't have all accumulators as occasionally yes Abdullah and rizwan or any other 2 may click and get you over the line in a safe fashion but logically it ain't gonna work if warner has cooked you by smashing 164.
 
mominsaigol said:
The problem in the world cup was having a top 6 of

1) Abdullah
2) Imam
3) Babar
4) Rizwan
5) Saud
6) Chacha

This lineup was badly exposed when falhar came into the mix.

This issue with this lineup is that it's a test lineup and obviously would have never worked on batting paradise pitches where quinton is smacking 4 centuries for fun.

Pakistan's strategy in every game that they were chasing was to get 170 in the first 30 overs and and chase 150 to 180 in the last 20 and approach it as a t20 game.

On paper this works, but logically it won't. It worked once during the sri lanka game, but crashed like a house of cards againat australia and England for obvious reasons.

As odi isn't t20, when 30 pvers are bowled, unless the top order is a superman every innings, likely wickets have fallen, and unlike t20 theirs no PP rule of having only 2 fielders outside the inner ring + ball is softer and older so a bit of reverse and more spin by this point.

The Approach is outdated plain and simple. I agree that unlike t20 rizwan and babar aren't the main issue, but in odi you need to have a mix of Strikers and accumulators. You can't have all accumulators or all strikers, as all strikers will occasionally get you 400 but will usually collapse like a house of cards. This use to be the issue qith England which is why root and stokes were brought on.

And you can't have all accumulators as occasionally yes Abdullah and rizwan or any other 2 may click and get you over the line in a safe fashion but logically it ain't gonna work if warner has cooked you by smashing 164.
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Rizwan averaged 60+ in the WC. By all accounts he had an excellent tournament. His ODI numbers are also very good for a No.4 batter. Average of 40 with a SR of nearly 90. The biggest problems in the batting were guys like Imam, Chacha, Saud. You can look past Saud and Abdullah who were playing their first ICC tournament and had atleast a few performances of note. But Chacha and Imam were truly awful playing in key positions. And combined together their inconsistency really hurt Pakistan. Babar also had an awful tournament for his standards. But atleast he averaged 40 and scored some runs. Rizwan was pretty much the only one who did perform in that entire tournament.

The problem is not the top 4. Which along with Fakhar and Abdullah Shafique is not bad. The problem is the lower middle order that is supposed to take you to those big totals. Hitting 100 off the last 10 is something almost every team backs themselves to get in this format. But for that you need players who can do that. And Pakistan has been missing those players for quite some time.

Right now, they should give Saud, Agha, Haris, Aamer Jamal, a good run in those 5-7 positions.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Yeah. agreed.

No one can replace Babar, especially in ODIs. RIzwan's track record in recent times is also good in this format.

We need to find middle-order batter in this format as well. Saud Shakeel and Salman are there and I think we need 1 more guy who can be both a basher and can stay on crease to hold one end when needed.
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I think Mohammad Haris and Aamer Jamal are worth a shot. I would prefer Aamer Jamal because of his all-round abilities. He would balance the side. Agha Salman so far has done very well with the opportunities that he has been given. He's a good cricketer and can be useful in the field and with the ball too. I think he has earned the right to be given a decent run in that No. 6 slot.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I think Mohammad Haris and Aamer Jamal are worth a shot. I would prefer Aamer Jamal because of his all-round abilities. He would balance the side. Agha Salman so far has done very well with the opportunities that he has been given. He's a good cricketer and can be useful in the field and with the ball too. I think he has earned the right to be given a decent run in that No. 6 slot.
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Yes you are right. but Aamer Jamal has to do something substantial to find a spot in the team. He is injured atm I gus.

Fakhar
Abdullah
Babar
Saud
Rizwan
Salman
Aamer
Naseem
Shaheen
Abrar
Wasim/abbas/Mohammad ali/ haris rauf

would be my picks for now..
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Rizwan averaged 60+ in the WC. By all accounts he had an excellent tournament. His ODI numbers are also very good for a No.4 batter. Average of 40 with a SR of nearly 90. The biggest problems in the batting were guys like Imam, Chacha, Saud. You can look past Saud and Abdullah who were playing their first ICC tournament and had atleast a few performances of note. But Chacha and Imam were truly awful playing in key positions. And combined together their inconsistency really hurt Pakistan. Babar also had an awful tournament for his standards. But atleast he averaged 40 and scored some runs. Rizwan was pretty much the only one who did perform in that entire tournament.

The problem is not the top 4. Which along with Fakhar and Abdullah Shafique is not bad. The problem is the lower middle order that is supposed to take you to those big totals. Hitting 100 off the last 10 is something almost every team backs themselves to get in this format. But for that you need players who can do that. And Pakistan has been missing those players for quite some time.

Right now, they should give Saud, Agha, Haris, Aamer Jamal, a good run in those 5-7 positions.
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The issue of the top 4 was solved when fakhar replaced imam.
 
mominsaigol said:
The issue of the top 4 was solved when fakhar replaced imam.
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Yeah but it was too late at that point. Imam had already thrown away the match against Australia and failed against India, Afghanistan, South Africa. Even the matches we won against Netherlands and Sri Lanka, he did nothing.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Pakistan eleven should be

Fakhar
Abdullah
Babar
Rizwan
Saud
Agha Salman
Aamer Jamal
Mohd Wasim
Shaheen
Naseem
Abrar
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I would also like spinners who can bat a bit like Arfat minhas. Mehran is also rising fast.
 
Not convinced by Abdullah at the top at all. Plays too many dots against pace

I'd go

Fakhar
Saim
Bobby
Rizzy
Saud(don't rate him but options are few)
Agha
Arafat Minhas
Aamer Jamal
3 pacers (PAK specialist spinners are rubbish )
 
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