Pakistan U19s playing very few games between 2018-20 World Cups showing its results?

[MenInG]

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

No.. playing so many nephews in the team showing results

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Well its the lack of talent on display , they are inferior in every deparment compare to India , Pacers pace is down if you compare them , Spinners turn is low and they are not as consistent as Indians, May be batting is better but it didn't clicked today. Match practice didnt help you gain pace or extract more turn , may be discipline ,match awareness and consistency thats it.

 

[Mamoon]

More games = more mediocrity.

We are just not good enough.

 

[Ronaldo7]

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION]
When's our next u19 match (after the third place playoff)?

 

[Slog]

U19 isn’t about team combinations and chemistry. It’s about giving individual talents a stepping stone so in an ideal world they shouldn’t be playing a lot of U19 games to begin with

 

[ZamanFan]

No.. playing so many nephews in the team showing results

Exactly.

Former players esp. from 90s have been using PCB corrupt system to push in their relatives in U16 and U19.

Shame on pcb ehsan mani and wasim khan have only emboldened this mafia. Next u19 expect #Misbah son to captain u19 who was selected without giving trial and on holiday with his dad diring australiam tour where Pakistan lost all 4 matches.

 

[JaDed]

U19 isn’t about team combinations and chemistry. It’s about giving individual talents a stepping stone so in an ideal world they shouldn’t be playing a lot of U19 games to begin with

Yeah its not only that.. that’s what A tours are for, it’s about having discipline to listen ,learn and adapt as well.

 

[Abdullah719]

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION]
When's our next u19 match (after the third place playoff)?

I don't think there's anything announced or scheduled yet.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I am not sure you gain a lot out of playing under-19 matches. I think all these guys gained more in domestic circuit than under-19. First class, List A cricket is always a level above.

Here Jaiswal made a double century in List A against a side that has experienced domestic bowlers like Varun Aaron, Shabaz Nadeem (played in the last test for India), Anukul Roy (2018 under-19 star). He smashed every single bowler. 12 sixes 17 fours.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...bai-elite-group-a-vijay-hazare-trophy-2019-20

 

[JaDed]

I am not sure you gain a lot out of playing under-19 matches. I think all these guys gained more in domestic circuit than under-19. First class, List A cricket is always a level above.

Here Jaiswal made a double century in List A against a side that has experienced domestic bowlers like Varun Aaron, Shabaz Nadeem (played in the last test for India), Anukul Roy (2018 under-19 star). He smashed every single bowler. 12 sixes 17 fours.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...bai-elite-group-a-vijay-hazare-trophy-2019-20

He smacked a double in 50 over game? Lol

 

[jnaveen1980]

He smacked a double in 50 over game? Lol

yes. That is how he became famous. For a 17 year old that was a pretty good start

 

[Ronaldo7]

I don't think there's anything announced or scheduled yet.

Just that U19 Asia Cup which happens every year

 

[jnaveen1980]

Guys like Rohali Nazir is playing his second under-19. He is also part of domestic set up. So he should be cut above rest of the players from his team. Evidently he is not.

 

[MMHS]

NZ, Australia played even less therefore it's not the only reason. But, I think PCB should arrange more bilateral U19 games - preferably 4 days cricket more. And, FGS - please try to play as many genuine U19 kids as possible, at least for bi-laterals. ICC is allowing AFG kids to watch their dads playing U19 WC, therefore I don't mind any team playing anyone in WC, whoever is allowed by ICC, but for such series, genuine boys should be picked. Age cheating is common in BD as well, for that what BCB does is for junior level domestics, they filter mostly official 16 & 17 years old kids for domestic U19 events.

Age level tours are arranged reciprocally (exchange basis) as there is hardly any financial gain. Previously, PCB had the difficulty to arrange such tours because of the cost involved arranging junior cricket in UAE. But, now situation has improved - they can do

1. Arrange as many bi-laterals with AFG, BD, SRL, ZIM (their Jr. team looks much better) at home (in exchange basis - may be AFGs can arrange their games in BD, in case of Visa issues for PAK players in India)

2. Co-arrange multi-team tournaments in BD/SAF with teams like ENG, WIN, SAF, NZ, AUS. Actually, BCB is very good at arranging such jr. level tournaments as even U19 cricket is financially viable there - needs strong backing from 2-3 other stronger Boards to make it an annual event. BD, PAK, AFG as regular and on rotation basis 3 more guests - it'll be a cracker for 3 weeks in BD.

3. WK must act on this - possibly every year, a PAK U19 or A team (or both !!!!!) to tour UK. Not necessarily has to be at International level, but even 4 weeks tour to UK playing against County sides during PAK Off-season (June - Aug), will be gold.

4. Make a pool of 35-40 U18 players (eligible for next U19 WC), and form a sort of U19 B/C team - then play cricket with U19 teams of Nepal, Canada, IRL, ZIM, UAE, Singapore, HK, Kenya at NCA facilities .... this will keep the bench interested as well at the lowest cost. Heard last year (or previous) some Nepal jr team came to BD, and I don't know most of our boys - can't find the scores either as it's not even in BCB site!!!

For last few years, PAK U19 is performing horribly in Asia Cup as well. I understand, they made SF in this & last WC, but the gap is clearly evident and today I am bit upset with the show - don't get much chances to watch IND-PAK game, and there was another ODI + Liverpool kids laying FA Cup .... so, I exchanged schedule toady ........... now stuck with PP and the horror show by PAK boys are scary even for nightmares, just in case if I go for a little nap!!!!!!

 

[GrandMaster]

Playing more matches won't help, choosing the right opponents will help. Pakistan needs to play more matches against top tier teams.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

NZ, Australia played even less therefore it's not the only reason. But, I think PCB should arrange more bilateral U19 games - preferably 4 days cricket more. And, FGS - please try to play as many genuine U19 kids as possible, at least for bi-laterals. ICC is allowing AFG kids to watch their dads playing U19 WC, therefore I don't mind any team playing anyone in WC, whoever is allowed by ICC, but for such series, genuine boys should be picked. Age cheating is common in BD as well, for that what BCB does is for junior level domestics, they filter mostly official 16 & 17 years old kids for domestic U19 events.

Age level tours are arranged reciprocally (exchange basis) as there is hardly any financial gain. Previously, PCB had the difficulty to arrange such tours because of the cost involved arranging junior cricket in UAE. But, now situation has improved - they can do

1. Arrange as many bi-laterals with AFG, BD, SRL, ZIM (their Jr. team looks much better) at home (in exchange basis - may be AFGs can arrange their games in BD, in case of Visa issues for PAK players in India)

2. Co-arrange multi-team tournaments in BD/SAF with teams like ENG, WIN, SAF, NZ, AUS. Actually, BCB is very good at arranging such jr. level tournaments as even U19 cricket is financially viable there - needs strong backing from 2-3 other stronger Boards to make it an annual event. BD, PAK, AFG as regular and on rotation basis 3 more guests - it'll be a cracker for 3 weeks in BD.

3. WK must act on this - possibly every year, a PAK U19 or A team (or both !!!!!) to tour UK. Not necessarily has to be at International level, but even 4 weeks tour to UK playing against County sides during PAK Off-season (June - Aug), will be gold.

4. Make a pool of 35-40 U18 players (eligible for next U19 WC), and form a sort of U19 B/C team - then play cricket with U19 teams of Nepal, Canada, IRL, ZIM, UAE, Singapore, HK, Kenya at NCA facilities .... this will keep the bench interested as well at the lowest cost. Heard last year (or previous) some Nepal jr team came to BD, and I don't know most of our boys - can't find the scores either as it's not even in BCB site!!!

For last few years, PAK U19 is performing horribly in Asia Cup as well. I understand, they made SF in this & last WC, but the gap is clearly evident and today I am bit upset with the show - don't get much chances to watch IND-PAK game, and there was another ODI + Liverpool kids laying FA Cup .... so, I exchanged schedule toady ........... now stuck with PP and the horror show by PAK boys are scary even for nightmares, just in case if I go for a little nap!!!!!!

None of these things look hard to arrange, especially creating a U19 B side to play Nepal etc. Would be amazing as a way to enforce bench strength and avoid cricketers being lost through the cracks in the system. It’s times like these that I wish WK was on PP reading these posts. Or at least some high level staff at PCB who can relay it to him.