Is the Indian team getting an unfair advantage in the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 by playing all its matches in Dubai?

[RexRex]

The unfair advantage turned out to be the single biggest contributor to Ind ‘winning’ the tournament which is why that trophy has no shine.

India would have won it anyway.

 

[stani_pak]

India would have won it anyway.

dont think so to be honest, india squad and team selection for each match was purley based on having all matches in Dubai, if they had some games in Abu Dhabi, I think there would be a difference, I think India would make semis, maybe even finals, but would not end up winning the whole thing, the fact that all mathces where in Dubai was a big advantage

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

dont think so to be honest, india squad and team selection for each match was purley based on having all matches in Dubai, if they had some games in Abu Dhabi, I think there would be a difference, I think India would make semis, maybe even finals, but would not end up winning the whole thing, the fact that all mathces where in Dubai was a big advantage

Naah. Who would have defeated India with that configuration?

India would have won anyway.

 

[stani_pak]

Naah. Who would have defeated India with that configuration?

India would have won anyway.

No, I dont think so.

 

[Obaidd]

dont think so to be honest, india squad and team selection for each match was purley based on having all matches in Dubai, if they had some games in Abu Dhabi, I think there would be a difference, I think India would make semis, maybe even finals, but would not end up winning the whole thing, the fact that all mathces where in Dubai was a big advantage

very valid points.

One more crucial thing is that that Ind were going to play SF1 regardless of if they finished first or second in group. Again a manipulation of format enough in its own right to taint the whole tournament.

Ind’s potential opponents (sa and aus) flew in to Dubai not knowing where they would play the SF even after knowing their final position in their group. SA returned to pak.

That’s why there is no shine on this ‘trophy’.

 

[stani_pak]

very valid points.

One more crucial thing is that that Ind were going to play SF1 regardless of if they finished first or second in group. Again a manipulation of format enough in its own right to taint the whole tournament.

Ind’s potential opponents (sa and aus) flew in to Dubai not knowing where they would play the SF even after knowing their final position in their group. SA returned to pak.

That’s why there is no shine on this ‘trophy’.

It really beyond insane....and you would never ever see this in any other sport....only in cricket because it is controlled by India.

 

[Sachin fan]

very valid points.

One more crucial thing is that that Ind were going to play SF1 regardless of if they finished first or second in group. Again a manipulation of format enough in its own right to taint the whole tournament.

Ind’s potential opponents (sa and aus) flew in to Dubai not knowing where they would play the SF even after knowing their final position in their group. SA returned to pak.

That’s why there is no shine on this ‘trophy’.

It really beyond insane....and you would never ever see this in any other sport....only in cricket because it is controlled by India.

What about when india traveled the most in world cup 2023 and they didn't whine and cry like babies?

And no other sports, really? Russian players were banned in chess by everyone. Europe doesn't allow Russian players even to play.

South Africa was banned for such a long time in cricket.

Australia and west indies refused to travel to Sri Lanka for world cup 96 and sri Lanka won that world cup with free points. Indian fans didn't cry like babies just because Sri Lanka won.

Crying like toddlers just because India won is making you guys a laughing stock.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Obsession with winning is still here... Move on now.... CT has been over for months now but people are still dancing over that.

 

[nish_mate]

Obsession with winning is still here... Move on now.... CT has been over for months now but people are still dancing over that.

Or mourning....let's be frank here only reason it's an issue is coz it's India. If it was OZ,NZ or England or even SA staying at one venue and winning it, none of the Pakistani or Bangla posters would be so distressed

 

[BouncerGuy]

Or mourning....let's be frank here only reason it's an issue is coz it's India. If it was OZ,NZ or England or even SA staying at one venue and winning it, none of the Pakistani or Bangla posters would be so distressed

Point is, the event is history... There are many upcoming events. We should talk about it..

 

[nish_mate]

Point is, the event is history... There are many upcoming events. We should talk about it..

That I agree, however from memory CT17 was discussed for months after Pak won

 

[Vikram1989]

What about when india traveled the most in world cup 2023 and they didn't whine and cry like babies?

And no other sports, really? Russian players were banned in chess by everyone. Europe doesn't allow Russian players even to play.

South Africa was banned for such a long time in cricket.

Australia and west indies refused to travel to Sri Lanka for world cup 96 and sri Lanka won that world cup with free points. Indian fans didn't cry like babies just because Sri Lanka won.

Crying like toddlers just because India won is making you guys a laughing stock.

Pak played nz In Karachi in a tri series final just few days ahead of ct group match.pak lost in both matches with out any fight.pak, sa, nz played in the same ct venues before others .those 3 have exploited the venues to gain significant advantage .We know what happened at the end.

 

[BouncerGuy]

That I agree, however from memory CT17 was discussed for months after Pak won

Because they won it after a long time and defeated india in the final...special moment

 

[nish_mate]

Because they won it after a long time and defeated india in the final...special moment

And India won something hosted by Pakistan, a verrrry special moment. Buraaaaah

 

[BouncerGuy]

And India won something hosted by Pakistan, a verrrry special moment. Buraaaaah

Beating INdia in final vs winning an event hosted by Pakistan... You decide... LOL

 

[nish_mate]

Beating INdia in final vs winning an event hosted by Pakistan... You decide... LOL

Trophys a trophy and it shut up a few bitter Pakistanis, Scotlandanis and Canadians...What's not to like or talk about it. Plus PCB hosted where they clearly weren't happy about India playing.

 

[Devadwal]

Obsession with winning is still here... Move on now.... CT has been over for months now but people are still dancing over that.

Some people are still not able to digest the fact that India has won the Champions Trophy.

 

[stani_pak]

What about when india traveled the most in world cup 2023 and they didn't whine and cry like babies?

And no other sports, really? Russian players were banned in chess by everyone. Europe doesn't allow Russian players even to play.

South Africa was banned for such a long time in cricket.

Australia and west indies refused to travel to Sri Lanka for world cup 96 and sri Lanka won that world cup with free points. Indian fans didn't cry like babies just because Sri Lanka won.

Crying like toddlers just because India won is making you guys a laughing stock.

The examples you gave are of cricket...mainly...that does not follow under other sports...again cricket will have these issues because it is run by Indians.

Playing all your games in one location, is an massive advantage.....it does not take a rocket scientist to see that.

 

[Obaidd]

What about when india traveled the most in world cup 2023 and they didn't whine and cry like babies?

And no other sports, really? Russian players were banned in chess by everyone. Europe doesn't allow Russian players even to play.

South Africa was banned for such a long time in cricket.

Australia and west indies refused to travel to Sri Lanka for world cup 96 and sri Lanka won that world cup with free points. Indian fans didn't cry like babies just because Sri Lanka won.

Crying like toddlers just because India won is making you guys a laughing stock.

Ind played at multiple venues at home in 2023, Russians banned, South Africa banned, Australia refusing to travel and conceding points, all of this = irrelevant.

Me being a Pakistani is also irrelevant in this context. Put aside your nationalist lens for a moment.

SA flying to UAE and then flying back made a mockery of fairness, that was the treatment afforded to group B winners.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Pakistan is playing all its group matches in Dubai this time, lets see how they fare.

 

[Vikram1989]

Pakistan is playing all its group matches in Dubai this time, lets see how they fare.

Its all salty fans mindset. In wc 23, sa played 2 matches in kolkata and lost both.nz lost both in dharamsala. Pak lost both in chennai.eng lost both in Ahmedabad. Nz lost both in Dubai in ct.

 

[stani_pak]

Pakistan is playing all its group matches in Dubai this time, lets see how they fare.

That is not correct either, however I assume super 4 stages will have Pak play at other venues.

Again Pak should have not all there group stage games in Dubai, the only reason I see behind it, is ACC wants to assure or try to assure Pak goes through to have India vs Pakistan match up twice, it all goes down to money (hence Indias Wishes) since they control the game

This is not correct Pak should have 1 game atleast in Abu Dhabi

Difference between Pakistanis and Indians...is when something is not right even if it favors us say it is not right.

 

[Mesozoic]

Funniest thing about all the rona dhona here by Pakistanis is that...PCB were literally the hosts of this tournament and they're rhe ones who gave a green signal to India playing all its matches in Dubai. If they wanted , they could have easily scheduled a few games at other venues but they didn't for obviou$ reason$.

People are forgetting that PCB had scheduled all the India matches in Lahore even if we were to visit Pakistan.

These salty tears now that India won the tournament are just hilarious.

 

[stani_pak]

Funniest thing about all the rona dhona here by Pakistanis is that...PCB were literally the hosts of this tournament and they're rhe ones who gave a green signal to India playing all its matches in Dubai. If they wanted , they could have easily scheduled a few games at other venues but they didn't for obviou$ reason$.

People are forgetting that PCB had scheduled all the India matches in Lahore even if we were to visit Pakistan.

These salty tears now that India won the tournament are just hilarious.

That was more for a safety concern and also a way to try to convivence India to come play in Pakistan

But Dubai...Abu Dhabi...Sharjah....are not in Pakistan, and are pretty safe locations to play for any team....so your argument is not valid...since your missing the big point....there was no need to have India play all its matches in Dubai

 

[U$ofA]

The examples you gave are of cricket...mainly...that does not follow under other sports...again cricket will have these issues because it is run by Indians.

Playing all your games in one location, is an massive advantage.....it does not take a rocket scientist to see that.

Why is the ICC allowing this? They are the ones designated to run the sport. If India is running it, why are there so many people employed at the ICC? Quite a few with some fat paychecks. Total waste of some good $$$.

The ICC is to blame for the current state of things. BCCI walking all over ICC. If you are the ICC, how do you let that happen? Sure, you can fool ICC once. Shame on BCCI. But if you fool the ICC for two plus decades, shame on the ICC.

 

[SherWaqar]

No doubt. It’s their way or the highway!

 

[U$ofA]

Ind played at multiple venues at home in 2023, Russians banned, South Africa banned, Australia refusing to travel and conceding points, all of this = irrelevant.

Me being a Pakistani is also irrelevant in this context. Put aside your nationalist lens for a moment.

SA flying to UAE and then flying back made a mockery of fairness, that was the treatment afforded to group B winners.

Where were the people (ICC) running the sport when all of this was happening?

 

[Mesozoic]

That was more for a safety concern and also a way to try to convivence India to come play in Pakistan

But Dubai...Abu Dhabi...Sharjah....are not in Pakistan, and are pretty safe locations to play for any team....so your argument is not valid...since your missing the big point....there was no need to have India play all its matches in Dubai

Looks like you completely missed the point of my post.

PCB were the sole hosts of the tournament. It is them who had the final call on where India plays it's games in the UAE. They had it in their control to have India play at different venues in the UAE rather than play all their games in Dubai.

So why didn't the PCB, the hosts/organisers of the tournament do anything? This is the question that most Pakistanis have ran away from whenever I have asked them this..it's much easier to cry salty tears i guess.

 

[stani_pak]

Why is the ICC allowing this? They are the ones designated to run the sport. If India is running it, why are there so many people employed at the ICC? Quite a few with some fat paychecks. Total waste of some good $$$.

The ICC is to blame for the current state of things. BCCI walking all over ICC. If you are the ICC, how do you let that happen? Sure, you can fool ICC once. Shame on BCCI. But if you fool the ICC for two plus decades, shame on the ICC.

ICC is also to blame but basically ICC is BCCI so at the end of the day India is the one to blame

 

[stani_pak]

Looks like you completely missed the point of my post.

PCB were the sole hosts of the tournament. It is them who had the final call on where India plays it's games in the UAE. They had it in their control to have India play at different venues in the UAE rather than play all their games in Dubai.

So why didn't the PCB, the hosts/organisers of the tournament do anything? This is the question that most Pakistanis have ran away from whenever I have asked them this..it's much easier to cry salty tears i guess.

India demanded to have all their games at Dubai...and PCB is not ICC at the end of the day ICC (which is basically BCCI) have the final say. If ICC refused Indias demand to have all games in Dubai...India would withdraw from the tourney and ICC would not want that.

At the end of the day, ICC should be looking at the best interest of all cricket nations, not just India

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

India demanded to have all their games at Dubai...and PCB is not ICC at the end of the day ICC (which is basically BCCI) have the final say. If ICC refused Indias demand to have all games in Dubai...India would withdraw from the tourney and ICC would not want that.

At the end of the day, ICC should be looking at the best interest of all cricket nations, not just India

I do not think that ICC = Bcci or anything like that, if that was true we would have been able to shift the WTC from England, similarly we could have moved Asia cup to India too.

Pcb was the host and they came up with the plan.

 

[U$ofA]

ICC is also to blame but basically ICC is BCCI so at the end of the day India is the one to blame

No they are not. ICC has a whole set of people employed and collecting paychecks. Supposedly for doing some kind of work. What work, I have no idea.

If they are not doing anything, while at the same time being greedy for BCCI $$$, why have such an organization at all? Since BCCI is already running things, why not get rid of the people at ICC. Save $$$ that are being wasted.

 

[U$ofA]

India demanded to have all their games at Dubai...and PCB is not ICC at the end of the day ICC (which is basically BCCI) have the final say. If ICC refused Indias demand to have all games in Dubai...India would withdraw from the tourney and ICC would not want that.

At the end of the day, ICC should be looking at the best interest of all cricket nations, not just India

ICC only looks out for it's own interests. And they are very good at it.

 

[Mesozoic]

India demanded to have all their games at Dubai...and PCB is not ICC at the end of the day ICC (which is basically BCCI) have the final say. If ICC refused Indias demand to have all games in Dubai...India would withdraw from the tourney and ICC would not want that.

At the end of the day, ICC should be looking at the best interest of all cricket nations, not just India

Any verifiable source for this?

This just sounds like pure cope.

 

[stani_pak]

Any verifiable source for this?

This just sounds like pure cope.

Do you have any verifiable sources for the things you claim? If i post any sources people will just deny them

 

[Mesozoic]

Do you have any verifiable sources for the things you claim? If i post any sources people will just deny them

Bruh what? What did I claim?


Just post the source and then we're talking.

 

[Obaidd]

Where were the people (ICC) running the sport when all of this was happening?

ICC, PCB and BCCI can share the blame, for all I care. Point is Group B winners were treated unfairly to accommodate Ind which tainted Ind’s ‘win’.

Feel bad for Ind players who get to live with this blemish on their achievements.

Doesn’t matter if ONLY Pak, Eng, Aus, SA, BD and WI folks highlighted this.

The thing with truth is that it shines. Waiting for the day Ind fans start speaking up against the tyranny of ‘most eyeballs’.

 

[Obaidd]

ICC, PCB and BCCI can share the blame, for all I care. Point is Group B winners were treated unfairly to accommodate Ind which tainted Ind’s ‘win’.

Feel bad for Ind players who get to live with this blemish on their achievements.

Doesn’t matter if ONLY Pak, Eng, Aus, SA, BD and WI folks highlighted this.

The thing with truth is that it shines. Waiting for the day Ind fans start speaking up against the tyranny of ‘most eyeballs’.

Just remembered even Shami spoke against it but maybe he’s not Indian enough to have a ‘fair’ view of this travesty of justice.

 

[nish_mate]

So Indians cant celebrate their CT win but salty Pakistanis can complain a few months on....

 

[Obaidd]

So Indians cant celebrate their CT win but salty Pakistanis can complain a few months on....

Yes the global cricketing fraternity will continue to highlight this unfair treatment meted out to Group B winners.

The very serious concerns and reservations cannot be simply wished away.

 

[nish_mate]

Yes the global cricketing fraternity will continue to highlight this unfair treatment meted out to Group B winners.

The very serious concerns and reservations cannot be simply wished away.

No one's asking you to wash them away, however a tad hypocritical Indians can't talk about their trophy that was hosted by PCB and PCB agreed upfront to tourney venues and scheduling. If anything concerned fans should be doing a dharna outside PCB HQ for agreeing to host such a tourney...

 

[nish_mate]

ICC, PCB and BCCI can share the blame, for all I care. Point is Group B winners were treated unfairly to accommodate Ind which tainted Ind’s ‘win’.

Feel bad for Ind players who get to live with this blemish on their achievements.

Doesn’t matter if ONLY Pak, Eng, Aus, SA, BD and WI folks highlighted this.

The thing with truth is that it shines. Waiting for the day Ind fans start speaking up against the tyranny of ‘most eyeballs’.

But why did PCB host such a tourney that their fans clearly didn't want them to? Was there a hope and a secret desire let's host this, get the $$ and pray India doesn't win it? Was that PCB plan all along? Why PCB getting away with such a "tyranny"?

 

[Obaidd]

But why did PCB host such a tourney that their fans clearly didn't want them to? Was there a hope and a secret desire let's host this, get the $$ and pray India doesn't win it? Was that PCB plan all along? Why PCB getting away with such a "tyranny"?

Good points and I am not here to speak on PCB’s behalf.

By marking SF1 as Ind’s SF no matter where they finished (1 or 2), the organisers created an unfair environment.

The blame lies with the organisers. Ind players are actually the victims as their hard-fought ‘trophy’ has become controversial.

Let’s all agree that injustice was done, whether by PCB, ICC, BCCI or the combination of all three.

 

[U$ofA]

ICC, PCB and BCCI can share the blame, for all I care. Point is Group B winners were treated unfairly to accommodate Ind which tainted Ind’s ‘win’.

Feel bad for Ind players who get to live with this blemish on their achievements.

Doesn’t matter if ONLY Pak, Eng, Aus, SA, BD and WI folks highlighted this.

The thing with truth is that it shines. Waiting for the day Ind fans start speaking up against the tyranny of ‘most eyeballs’.

That's fine. It's your opinion and you are entitled to it. My point/focus is on the bigger picture of the sport.

All these boards and ICC keep meekly surrendering in return for $$$. Very poor on them. When there is no push back, we will continue to have what we have. Unsurprisingly! Things will be reduced to complaints/talk but no action.

Action is what is needed.

 

[Obaidd]

That's fine. It's your opinion and you are entitled to it. My point/focus is on the bigger picture of the sport.

All these boards and ICC keep meekly surrendering in return for $$$. Very poor on them. When there is no push back, we will continue to have what we have. Unsurprisingly! Things will be reduced to complaints/talk but no action.

Action is what is needed.

Thanks.

Action is needed by Ind fans at this time. Even if a section of Ind fans starts speaking up things could be different. It takes great courage to call out unfairness when one’s benefiting.

 

[U$ofA]

Thanks.

Action is needed by Ind fans at this time. Even if a section of Ind fans starts speaking up things could be different. It takes great courage to call out unfairness when one’s benefiting.

On the contrary, my opinion is that action has to come from the opposite side. From people who are in power and who actually run things. The ICC, ECB, CA, PCB, SLC, CWI et al.

Sure the fans have a role to play and have power to a certain extent. At the same time, it is unfair to say that only Indian fans have to take action. Why only them?

Why should all the boards, the fans of all these boards, the ICC just sit around? Why no blame on them for inaction?

I pretty much blame the opposite side. They gladly sit around and cash in BCCI $$$. Barely do any work. Make zero effort to become self reliant. The fans seem to have no issue with this and give them a pass. How are things going to change?

Currently the BCCI is having it's way without any push back. Why would they change their ways? Not in human nature to do that. Things will change only if there is attempt to change it. That onus is on the opposite side. Not the BCCI or it's fans.

 

[Greenstorm]

In recent times, has India ever played against Bangladesh or Afghanistan on spin friendly surfaces ?

They were supposed to tour Bangladesh this year but ran away. They hardly ever play in Abu Dhabi or Sharjah.

Indian batsmen aren't great against spin and they know it.

 

[stani_pak]

But why did PCB host such a tourney that their fans clearly didn't want them to? Was there a hope and a secret desire let's host this, get the $$ and pray India doesn't win it? Was that PCB plan all along? Why PCB getting away with such a "tyranny"?

Nope its all Indias fault, they should have toured Pakistan for champions trophy, or simply just withdraw from the tournament since Pakistan was the host, it was there politics, and there politics alone that created this mess
Hence India is to blame

 

[stani_pak]

In recent times, has India ever played against Bangladesh or Afghanistan on spin friendly surfaces ?

They were supposed to tour Bangladesh this year but ran away. They hardly ever play in Abu Dhabi or Sharjah.

Indian batsmen aren't great against spin and they know it.

Very solid and valid point

 

[U$ofA]

Nope its all Indias fault, they should have toured Pakistan for champions trophy, or simply just withdraw from the tournament since Pakistan was the host, it was there politics, and there politics alone that created this mess
Hence India is to blame

Or, why not the ICC just kick Ind out and replace them with SL? Just as simple.

 

[nish_mate]

Nope its all Indias fault, they should have toured Pakistan for champions trophy, or simply just withdraw from the tournament since Pakistan was the host, it was there politics, and there politics alone that created this mess
Hence India is to blame

So no PCB fault for agreeing to the schedule and hosting it? Did BCCI hold a gun at PCB and force them to host it with such terms? Why did PCB let it's arms be twisted...

Typical victim mentality

 

[Shafikapeo]

The unfair advantage turned out to be the single biggest contributor to Ind ‘winning’ the tournament which is why that trophy has no shine.

Cricket fraternity called it out then and remembers the injustice now.

Bro, can you bet half of your fortune on Pakistan if they get to play an entire tournament on just one ground? I don’t know about you, but I can put my money on India, because the Indian team actually knows how to turn an advantage into victory. Apart from India, the only other side I could trust in that scenario is Bangladesh—if they were to play the whole tournament in Mirpur.

The so-called “advantage” everyone is crying about was mainly related to traveling. Beyond that, there wasn’t really any massive edge like some Pakistani and Bangladeshi fans keep insisting. If there ever was a true massive advantage, it was the T20 World Cup 2021 in Dubai—where the chasing side kept winning almost every game, something Babar and Rizwan were happily feasting on not so long ago.

If you want to talk about unfair advantage, then raise your voice before the tournament begins—not after a team wins the whole thing. Complaining afterwards only proves there’s no integrity.

As an Indian, I openly admit that we had an advantage. But even with that, our team played consistently and earned the win. What’s the fault of our players or fans if matches were held on a single ground?

In fact, the PCB itself once offered that India could play all its matches in Gaddafi Stadium—flying every day between Amritsar and Lahore. Wouldn’t that be considered an advantage too?

I don’t really expect Pakistani or Bangladeshi fans to acknowledge our players’ performance or give them due credit. But at the very least, before you start blaming ICC or BCCI next time, first hold your own cricket boards accountable—the same boards that happily agree to shift tournaments abroad for a few extra dollars.

 

[Shafikapeo]

India demanded to have all their games at Dubai...and PCB is not ICC at the end of the day ICC (which is basically BCCI) have the final say. If ICC refused Indias demand to have all games in Dubai...India would withdraw from the tourney and ICC would not want that.

At the end of the day, ICC should be looking at the best interest of all cricket nations, not just India

Can you see the irony? On one hand, you’re cursing the ICC, saying “ICC = BCCI,” and on the other hand, you’re asking that same ICC for justice.

When there’s a buyer, there’s always a seller. If BCCI is making things happen with dollars, then aren’t the other boards accepting those dollars in return? Why don’t they boycott? Their so-called integrity only shows up in front of the media—when the ICC meetings happen, they’re busy counting the money.

If cricket really has to be saved, then ICC needs to bring in maximum viewership from outside India. Because at the end of the day, cricket survives on dollars, and right now those dollars are coming from India. From a purely sporting perspective, this may be unfair—but without dollars, there would be no sport at all.

 

[stani_pak]

Can you see the irony? On one hand, you’re cursing the ICC, saying “ICC = BCCI,” and on the other hand, you’re asking that same ICC for justice.

When there’s a buyer, there’s always a seller. If BCCI is making things happen with dollars, then aren’t the other boards accepting those dollars in return? Why don’t they boycott? Their so-called integrity only shows up in front of the media—when the ICC meetings happen, they’re busy counting the money.

If cricket really has to be saved, then ICC needs to bring in maximum viewership from outside India. Because at the end of the day, cricket survives on dollars, and right now those dollars are coming from India. From a purely sporting perspective, this may be unfair—but without dollars, there would be no sport at all.

ICC was not always BCCI...ICC is suppose to be International cricket council...but it has fallen Under BCCI, but what ICC is suppose to represent is all International teams, but it does not when we say ICC equals BCCI, is means ICC is under there power and influence and will do everything to make them happy

I understand what you saying about the money coming from India, that is why ICC is doing them favors, but this is where ICC failed in the sense, that they did not try to globalize the game, and when They started to please India, well BCCI did not do anything on there part to globalize the game either.

 

[stani_pak]

So no PCB fault for agreeing to the schedule and hosting it? Did BCCI hold a gun at PCB and force them to host it with such terms? Why did PCB let it's arms be twisted...

Typical victim mentality

PCB was given the right to host the tourney a while back, why would they not agree to host it, especially considering no ICC event took place in Pakistan since 1996, so no PCB is not to blame here.

We all knew that if India was not going to come to Pakistan than it would be hybrid, and India asked for all its matches in Dubai (the hybrid) is not the biggest issue for me, but the fact that one team got to play All its matches in one stadium is wrong

At the same if India withdrew, being that they did not get there demands, ICC would either remove the host or cancel the tourney what was Pakistan suppose to do, they really had no choice in this matter. Again India is to blame clear and simple

 

[Mesozoic]

We all knew that if India was not going to come to Pakistan than it would be hybrid, and India asked for all its matches in Dubai (the hybrid) is not the biggest issue for me, but the fact that one team got to play All its matches in one stadium is wrong

You still haven't provided a source for this claim that India asked for all its games to be in Dubai?.

I have asked twice and you have managed to run away from my question both times..so here I go again.

 

[Mesozoic]

I think I kind of understand the pain and heartburn Pakistani fans have been enduring ever since India won the Champions Trophy.

For 7-8 years, while Pakistan were consistently getting smashed by India , their only solace was that "We have a champions trophy while you have no icc title" but that lollypop too snatched away brutally by India by first taking a bulk of the tournament, then the final out of Pakistan and then the Trophy out of Pakistan's cabinet.

Explains all the copious excuses we have been seeing on this thread since March.

 

[stani_pak]

You still haven't provided a source for this claim that India asked for all its games to be in Dubai?.

I have asked twice and you have managed to run away from my question both times..so here I go again.

You claimed Pakistan came up with the schedule agreement, and it was all on Pakistan you have not provided your claims

 

[Mesozoic]

You claimed Pakistan came up with the schedule agreement, and it was all on Pakistan you have not provided your claims

Lmao you have completely lost the plot. It's standard procedure and common knowledge that the host of a tournament decides the itinerary for all the matches which then gets rubber stamped by the ICC if there are no concerns..

Now provide me a source on India requesting all their matches to be held in Dubai...I know you won't... because you've pulled that claim out of your rear end just to support your stupid half brained argument which reeks of insecurity and jealousy.

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

I think I kind of understand the pain and heartburn Pakistani fans have been enduring ever since India won the Champions Trophy.

For 7-8 years, while Pakistan were consistently getting smashed by India , their only solace was that "We have a champions trophy while you have no icc title" but that lollypop too snatched away brutally by India by first taking a bulk of the tournament, then the final out of Pakistan and then the Trophy out of Pakistan's cabinet.

Explains all the copious excuses we have been seeing on this thread since March.

also kicking pakistan out in the first round.

 

[Mesozoic]

also kicking pakistan out in the first round.

Yeah it was a full bounty of humiliation for Pakistan that tournament..

India first takes a third of the tournament out of Pakistan.

Then takes Pakistan out of Pakistan to play them in Dubai.

Then kicks Pakistan out of the tournament.

Then takes the final out of Pakistan by beating Australia in SF.

Then takes the trophy away from Pakistan to cap it all.


No wonder these guys are still seething.

 

[Devadwal]

Yeah it was a full bounty of humiliation for Pakistan that tournament..

India first takes a third of the tournament out of Pakistan.

Then takes Pakistan out of Pakistan to play them in Dubai.

Then kicks Pakistan out of the tournament.

Then takes the final out of Pakistan by beating Australia in SF.

Then takes the trophy away from Pakistan to cap it all.


No wonder these guys are still seething.

Well said. They can't digest the fact India has won ICC champions trophy. More such painful moments will come for Pakistan fans when India win more ICC trophy in coming year's

 

[jnaveen1980]

Why is this topic even relevant. Did not think this will haunt some fans forever in their life. More like Tendulkar's upper cut six at the centurion.

 

[Shafikapeo]

ICC was not always BCCI...ICC is suppose to be International cricket council...but it has fallen Under BCCI, but what ICC is suppose to represent is all International teams, but it does not when we say ICC equals BCCI, is means ICC is under there power and influence and will do everything to make them happy

I understand what you saying about the money coming from India, that is why ICC is doing them favors, but this is where ICC failed in the sense, that they did not try to globalize the game, and when They started to please India, well BCCI did not do anything on there part to globalize the game either.

But the real question is—why? Why does world cricket have to be under the influence of just one board? Why can’t others plan for their own sponsorships and viewership? In this, ICC is more at fault than BCCI. What has ICC actually done to promote cricket? Forget increasing viewership—take an example: they launched Major League Cricket in America, even spent 50 million dollars building a stadium for the T20 World Cup there. But what came out of it? In a country where even football couldn’t become popular, who’s going to watch cricket?

Instead, if they had invested that money in Nepal or Afghanistan, it would’ve shown results in the future. Do Pakistan and Bangladesh really gain anything in terms of viewership? Are PCB or BCB able to take advantage of it? BCCI has the monopoly with IPL—what do the other boards have, and what are they really doing? Gavaskar even told Naseer Hussain bluntly: if BCCI is the one bringing in the money, then naturally our players deserve some facilities—what’s wrong with that?

My point is, sports run on dollars. BCCI is bringing those dollars. And instead of doing something on their own, ICC and the other boards are blindly pocketing those dollars and becoming compromised. It’s the same as our forefathers working under the British—after receiving their salaries, they would go and demand independence from the very same masters.

 

[uppercut]

Yeah it was a full bounty of humiliation for Pakistan that tournament..

India first takes a third of the tournament out of Pakistan.

Then takes Pakistan out of Pakistan to play them in Dubai.

Then kicks Pakistan out of the tournament.

Then takes the final out of Pakistan by beating Australia in SF.

Then takes the trophy away from Pakistan to cap it all.


No wonder these guys are still seething.

And if that wasnt enough humiliation ... they kicked all PCB dudes out from the final presentation ceremony ... talk about being kicked in the teeth when already on the mat

 

[Obaidd]

Ind fans and Ind players are the victims of this blatant cheating as their win got tainted. The unfair treatment to Group 2 winners SA has taken the shine of this ‘win’.

Global outcry from Aus, Eng, WI, SA, BD and Pak can’t be wished away. It’s a shame Ind fans are still stuck in defending their ‘title’.

PCB, ICC and BCCI are all to blame. Feeling some pity for Ind fans now. Also Ind players will have to live with this ignominy.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Ind fans and Ind players are the victims of this blatant cheating as their win got tainted. The unfair treatment to Group 2 winners SA has taken the shine of this ‘win’.

Global outcry from Aus, Eng, WI, SA, BD and Pak can’t be wished away. It’s a shame Ind fans are still stuck in defending their ‘title’.

PCB, ICC and BCCI are all to blame. Feeling some pity for Ind fans now. Also Ind players will have to live with this ignominy.

the 'global outcry' 'tainted' narrative gravy train is between your ears mate!...in other words the 'ignominy' is coping mechanism going into overdrive....
what excuse of the schedule would you give your side loosing 0-2 to bdesh last year or clean sweep vs NZ before the CT began at home or loosing to afg in one match of this tri nation series?
or the diamond blooper of loosing twice on the same day to the US of A about whose players no one outside of their khandaan or neighbourhood have even heard of?

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

also kicking pakistan out in the first round.

whidh was within 3 days of the opening ceremony

 

[uppercut]

whidh was within 3 days of the opening ceremony

yes !! and then leaving pakistan with a grand total of one match at home which they lost to NZ ... cant make this up. Kudrat-Ka-Nizam I suppose. This must be a record of sorts where a host nation plays a grand total of 1 match in a ICC Event.

@Mesozoic
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[Hitman]

Get over it! For Pakistani and one Bangladeshi fan, the tournament is over and India won it. No amount of cribbing will change anything.​

 

[Obaidd]

the 'global outcry' 'tainted' narrative gravy train is between your ears mate!...in other words the 'ignominy' is coping mechanism going into overdrive....
what excuse of the schedule would you give your side loosing 0-2 to bdesh last year or clean sweep vs NZ before the CT began at home or loosing to afg in one match of this tri nation series?
or the diamond blooper of loosing twice on the same day to the US of A about whose players no one outside of their khandaan or neighbourhood have even heard of?

Haha I am looking at this not as a pak fan but as a global cricket fan. I am not justifying pak performance nor does it have anything to do with this.

The global outcry is about the mistreatment of Group B winners SA. SF1 was marked as India’s SF regardless of if they finished first or second. That’s the issue. Please justify that if you can. Irrelevant references to Pak losses don’t help.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Haha I am looking at this not as a pak fan but as a global cricket fan. I am not justifying pak performance nor does it have anything to do with this.

The global outcry is about the mistreatment of Group B winners SA. SF1 was marked as India’s SF regardless of if they finished first or second. That’s the issue. Please justify that if you can. Irrelevant references to Pak losses don’t help.

ok, ur point taken about not justifying pak performances, and your 'concerns' as a global citizen cricket lover who cares about the betterment of the game.
My point is the narrative that says 'india won because of the schedule' and it being driven by the supporters of you know who nations who are the same 'global outcry' that you mention.
If one sits and analyses any tournament for any sport, even for that matter - Soccer WC's - ever tried checking their schedule, don't the euro leagues players travel large distances, Grand Slam tennis schedules, olympics - if one digs deeply enough depending on ones agenda and narrative you can easily find any trend/pattern/data/info that you can exhibit and tom tom about as 'tainted wins' and diss the opposition taking pleasure in the victroy as having to live with this ignominy.

I'll bet events like hepathlon which has players competing in multiple kinds of events on the same day or over consecutive days will have its fair share of the perennial whingers who would cry buckets as the schedule didnt have their guy's strong events in the sequence they wanted.....or gymnastics athletes whose supporters could whinge that their champ didnt get enough reco time as their opponent, before being asked to perform on a different apparatus.

End of the day India won without loosing a single match, played like champions, deserved to be the champions and lifted the aptly named trophy

....and the world applauded

.....with the usual exceptions
off course

 

[sweep_shot]

Cricket could've been a very peaceful and appealing if India was not a part of ICC.

BCCICC turned cricket into a corrupt and petty sport.

 

[Obaidd]

ok, ur point taken about not justifying pak performances, and your 'concerns' as a global citizen cricket lover who cares about the betterment of the game.
My point is the narrative that says 'india won because of the schedule' and it being driven by the supporters of you know who nations who are the same 'global outcry' that you mention.
If one sits and analyses any tournament for any sport, even for that matter - Soccer WC's - ever tried checking their schedule, don't the euro leagues players travel large distances, Grand Slam tennis schedules, olympics - if one digs deeply enough depending on ones agenda and narrative you can easily find any trend/pattern/data/info that you can exhibit and tom tom about as 'tainted wins' and diss the opposition taking pleasure in the victroy as having to live with this ignominy.

I'll bet events like hepathlon which has players competing in multiple kinds of events on the same day or over consecutive days will have its fair share of the perennial whingers who would cry buckets as the schedule didnt have their guy's strong events in the sequence they wanted.....or gymnastics athletes whose supporters could whinge that their champ didnt get enough reco time as their opponent, before being asked to perform on a different apparatus.

End of the day India won without loosing a single match, played like champions, deserved to be the champions and lifted the aptly named trophy

....and the world applauded

.....with the usual exceptions
off course

Thanks. I agree with quite a bit of what you said.

Indian team was the best in the tournament. Won all its matches.

The organisers unnecessarily created this problem for team Ind. Tournament rules should have been same for all teams. Marking SF1 as Ind’s final tainted the whole thing. An alternative solution where this problem did not arise should have been found. It’s odd few folks objected to this.

You may be hearing the criticism now but it has been around since the idea was first floated. The fact that the naysayers include rival fans is irrelevant.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Thanks. I agree with quite a bit of what you said.

Indian team was the best in the tournament. Won all its matches.

The organisers unnecessarily created this problem for team Ind. Tournament rules should have been same for all teams. Marking SF1 as Ind’s final tainted the whole thing. An alternative solution where this problem did not arise should have been found. It’s odd few folks objected to this.

You may be hearing the criticism now but it has been around since the idea was first floated. The fact that the naysayers include rival fans is irrelevant.

Cheers, and thanks, a pleasure for this objective discussion
IF SF1 location was known in advance, was'nt SF2 and finals location known in advance.

Specifically, to address location of SF1 or sf2, you still have to be good enough to win at least the 2 prior games to qualify for SF 1. and plan the team combo well in advance before the tournament started.

Were/did you?

Was'nt the location of SF1, SF2 and Finals known before tournament started? What stopped any team from selecting the extra spinner/pacer/all rounder/batsman knowing they would be playing on any of these grounds?
Its like saying oh they selected players only for bouncy wickets of kingston, perth, jo-burg etc as our group stages are played there as we dont know we will be in sF/finals but coming a cropper when the SF/finals matches are played at swingy seamy headingley, Hamilton,Wellington, Gabba...
or similarly the soccer team just planning for their group stages to be played at one venue but getting smashed in the 2nd round/QF's as matches were played at higher altitude which needed more/fresher players or players attuned to playing in higher altitude.

Anyways, thans for acknowledging - all the v best!

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Cricket could've been a very peaceful and appealing if India was not a part of ICC.

BCCICC turned cricket into a corrupt and petty sport.

When you don'nt have anything constructive (like your footer says) or objective...
generic is the way to go...

 

[BouncerGuy]

India won the event... Move on...

Talking about it again and again and trying to justify anything won't matter... It is history...

 

[BouncerGuy]

PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

Well said. They can't digest the fact India has won ICC champions trophy. More such painful moments will come for Pakistan fans when India win more ICC trophy in coming year's

Just a painful existence as they watch India peel away both in cricket and economically.

At one point a reality check will set in and they will acclimatize to the new normal - that their peers are countries like Bangladesh, not India which is on another level.

Tbh even Bangladesh is also economically peeling away and even cricket wise have won the last T20/test series between the sides.

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

And if that wasnt enough humiliation ... they kicked all PCB dudes out from the final presentation ceremony ... talk about being kicked in the teeth when already on the mat

Their name remained in one place though - in the victory podium.

Fittingly just below Kohli, lol. Truly qudrat ka nizam.