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How will cricket fans remember India’s ICC Champions Trophy 2025 win: unfair advantage or well-deserved victory?

How will cricket fans remember India’s ICC Champions Trophy 2025 win?


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It probably will be spoken of with a bit of reservation and even though it's hard for the Indian fans to admit, it does take the shine of their win a bit. It's almost certain that no one will speak of the win without mentioning this fact in the future. But as the hosts and as a nation that played in the UAE for nearly a decade, it's not for PCB or Pakistan to judge.

Judging from some replies in this thread, it looks like some Indian cricket fans also recognise that it looks wrong they won by playing on one surface throughout the tournament and probably that's why some flock to threads like this hoping to seek validation from Pak cricket fans and get enraged when they don't get it.
 
It would've meant more if you accomplished it in Pakistan. Everyone knows this was hollow and by far the worst ICC event ever. India had the next best thing to home advantage in UAE.

It's a real shame because India has the best team and Kohli has so many fans in Pakistan. Him, Rohit et al have been starved of the opportunity to make history by winning an ICC tournament in Pakistan.
 
By this dumb logic..

India knocked Pakistan out in

1. 2014 T20 world cup
2. 2016 T20 World Cup
3. 2019 ODI world cups
4. 2024 T20 world cup
5. 2025 Champions Trophy


8-3 in India's favour :shhh


You need to stop embarassing yourselves.
Lol what have you been smoking.

As usual you love to get embarrassed so below is the detail:

In all the events I mentioned India got solely out of losing to Pakistan.. Obviously you and others don't contest the 2004 and 2017 CT claim but the issue is with CT 2009 where you guys believe you got knocked out because of wash out...but it is too dumb of you to think India was superior to Australia those days as the following series happened in your own HOME right after CT 2009 🥱🥱 And the coffin in the CT 2009 was put by Pakistan as they lost to Australia when winning them would have may given you a chance to progress on run rate.
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Post in thread '[PICTURE] Fact check: Moqa Moqa is nothing but a smokescreen by Indians to hide their embarrassing record against Pakistan'


And of your ludicrous claims, not even worth discussing but still
Wi lost eliminated Pak 2014 TWC
2016 wasn't even three in the group
And same happened in another instances too.


As I rightly said : Put him against TBE....and then it's lights out for you...Bye bye👋
 
In all the events I mentioned India got solely out of losing to Pakistan.. Obviously you and others don't contest the 2004 and 2017 CT claim but the issue is with CT 2009 where you guys believe you got knocked out because of wash out...but it is too dumb of you to think India was superior to Australia those days as the following series happened in your own HOME right after CT 2009 🥱🥱 And the coffin in the CT 2009 was put by Pakistan as they lost to Australia when winning them would have may given you a chance to progress on run rate.

India still had a chance of qualifying for the CT 2009 SF after they lost to Pakistan. So no... pakistan did not knock us out in anyway..that's not how knocking out a team works. It doesn't matter if you think India would have lost to Australia..that's just woulda coulda shoulda nonsense spouted by delusional idiots.

For example, India nailed the coffin on Pakistan's chances in the 2025 champions trophy by beating them in Dubai...now that is called knocking a team out.

Same for the 2019 world cup where India out the qualification out of Pakistan's reach so much that even winning all their rest of the games couldn't make them qualify for the SF. Now that's a knockout punch...
 
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It probably will be spoken of with a bit of reservation and even though it's hard for the Indian fans to admit, it does take the shine of their win a bit. It's almost certain that no one will speak of the win without mentioning this fact in the future. But as the hosts and as a nation that played in the UAE for nearly a decade, it's not for PCB or Pakistan to judge.

Judging from some replies in this thread, it looks like some Indian cricket fans also recognise that it looks wrong they won by playing on one surface throughout the tournament and probably that's why some flock to threads like this hoping to seek validation from Pak cricket fans and get enraged when they don't get it.
Always thought it was harder to get factually wrong than wish ful thinking! or maybe both are intertwined :)
 
No one remembers losers.

40 years down the road people will remember Pakistan winning CT 17 and India winning CT 25.

No one cares how it happened.
 
India still had a chance of qualifying for the CT 2009 SF after they lost to Pakistan. So no... pakistan did not knock us out in anyway..that's not how knocking out a team works. It doesn't matter if you think India would have lost to Australia..that's just woulda coulda shoulda nonsense spouted by delusional idiots.

For example, India nailed the coffin on Pakistan's chances in the 2025 champions trophy by beating them in Dubai...now that is called knocking a team out.

Same for the 2019 world cup where India out the qualification out of Pakistan's reach so much that even winning all their rest of the games couldn't make them qualify for the SF. Now that's a knockout punch...
It's not woulda or could a, you guys were facing the goats of cricket . The rain 🙂↔️. No cricket team has ever defeated rain
 
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No one remembers losers.

40 years down the road people will remember Pakistan winning CT 17 and India winning CT 25.

No one cares how it happened.
40 years from now, people will remember which team Pakistan defeated in the CT17 final, but they won't recall who India beat. Just like how everyone remembers the Mohali 2011 semifinal, yet few remember which team Sri Lanka defeated to reach the final. :inti
 
Indian fans will surely remember this as a huge achievement and it is. Winning back to back ICC events and staying unbeaten is no joke... Nobody cares which team they defeated in the end. it is all about troopy.
 
40 years from now, people will remember which team Pakistan defeated in the CT17 final, but they won't recall who India beat. Just like how everyone remembers the Mohali 2011 semifinal, yet few remember which team Sri Lanka defeated to reach the final. :inti
But they will remember India beat Sri Lanka to win the 2011 World Cup. And that’s exactly what Dr. Bassim’s point was…. And more importantly that India won the WC regardless of who they beat.
 
India still had a chance of qualifying for the CT 2009 SF after they lost to Pakistan. So no... pakistan did not knock us out in anyway..that's not how knocking out a team works. It doesn't matter if you think India would have lost to Australia..that's just woulda coulda shoulda nonsense spouted by delusional idiots.

For example, India nailed the coffin on Pakistan's chances in the 2025 champions trophy by beating them in Dubai...now that is called knocking a team out.

Same for the 2019 world cup where India out the qualification out of Pakistan's reach so much that even winning all their rest of the games couldn't make them qualify for the SF. Now that's a knockout punch...
Oh man embarrassment and you have become synonym now.

First let me debunk your 2025 and 2019 elimination of Pakistan by India gaffe. Check the run rate like a sane man and and no dumb mind it is quite obvious. 😉



And on 2019 only a dumb could claim that Pakistan got eliminated because of solely India lose...infact they crash out because of poor run rate all courtesy of WI
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So unlike me you can NEVER talk with proofs, facts or stats but only some silly emojis to unleash your anger. Tbh it is getting boring now as you only answer when I get offline. Feed up with this Tom and Jerry stuff. So I offer olive 🫒 branch to you and a graceful exit or else you can't stand toe to toe with me with logic.
 
Oh man embarrassment and you have become synonym now.

First let me debunk your 2025 and 2019 elimination of Pakistan by India gaffe. Check the run rate like a sane man and and no dumb mind it is quite obvious. 😉



And on 2019 only a dumb could claim that Pakistan got eliminated because of solely India lose...infact they crash out because of poor run rate all courtesy of WI
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So unlike me you can NEVER talk with proofs, facts or stats but only some silly emojis to unleash your anger. Tbh it is getting boring now as you only answer when I get offline. Feed up with this Tom and Jerry stuff. So I offer olive 🫒 branch to you and a graceful exit or else you can't stand toe to toe with me with logic.


You said India got knocked out by Pakistan in 2009 CT when everyone knows that the reason was the game against Australia getting rained off that got us knocked out.

But when I use the same dumb logic against you for pakistan in 2019/2025, you are crying about NRR and olive branches to cover your embarassment. :ROFLMAO:

You're right...it is getting pretty boring to humiliate your dumb logic.
 
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You said India got knocked out by Pakistan in 2009 CT when everyone knows that the reason was the game against Australia getting rained off that got us knocked out.

But when I use the same dumb logic against you for pakistan in 2019/2025, you are crying about NRR and olive branches to cover your embarassment. :ROFLMAO:

You're right...it is getting pretty boring to humiliate your dumb logic.
You are glutton for punishment....lol

Getting embarrassed as usual...why did you got knocked out of CT 2009. Because you lost a match and that match was against Pakistan and obviously would have lost against Aussies too who wiped the floor with your team at your home venues in the very next series after CT 2009..as I said all you can do is ramble and can't NEVER talk with facts. Thanks you have acknowledged that.

But but sir rain saved Australia 🤣
 
You are glutton for punishment....lol

Getting embarrassed as usual...why did you got knocked out of CT 2009. Because you lost a match and that match was against Pakistan and obviously would have lost against Aussies too who wiped the floor with your team at your home venues...as I said all you can do is ramble and can't NEVER talk with facts. Thanks you have acknowledged that.

But but sir rain saved Australia 🤣


So using this same logic Ind knocked out pak in 1999,2003,2015,2019,2023 ? (and ofcourse 1996 and 2011)
 
So using this same logic Ind knocked out pak in 1999,2003,2015,2019,2023 ? (and ofcourse 1996 and 2011)
2015 Pak reached QF 😂 😂
1999 Pak reached final 🤣🤣

Lol...please guys do some research before making such statements atleast save someone from the treatment which M is getting.
 
You are glutton for punishment....lol

Getting embarrassed as usual...why did you got knocked out of CT 2009. Because you lost a match and that match was against Pakistan and obviously would have lost against Aussies too who wiped the floor with your team at your home venues...as I said all you can do is ramble and can't NEVER talk with facts. Thanks you have acknowledged that.

But but sir rain saved Australia 🤣

Again woulda could shoulda rona dhona... :kakmal

Why did you get knocked out in 2019? Because you lost to India in a do or die game..

Why did you get knocked out in 2025? Because you lost to India in a do or die game..

Dont cry now just because I use your same dumb logic against you and show you your stupidity in a mirror.

There's more worth in saying India knocked Pakistan in all the above tournaments than saying Pakistan knocked us out in 2009. And your previous dumb logic of pakistan losing to Australia to nail a coffin in India's 2009 chances will also be met with the same dumb logic of India losing to England in 2019.

You have no way out of this embarassment. No amount of your poorly written posts will repel me away if that is something you're trying to do here.
 
2015 Pak reached QF 😂 😂
1999 Pak reached final 🤣🤣

Lol...please guys do some research before making such statements atleast save someone from the treatment which M is getting.

I know but you also said that since Ind would have lost to Aus later on so the loss to Pak in 2009 CT was a knockout punch ... right ?
 
Again woulda could shoulda rona dhona... :kakmal

Why did you get knocked out in 2019? Because you lost to India in a do or die game..

Why did you get knocked out in 2025? Because you lost to India in a do or die game..

Dont cry now just because I use your same dumb logic against you and show you your stupidity in a mirror.

There's more worth in saying India knocked Pakistan in all the above tournaments than saying Pakistan knocked us out in 2009. And your previous dumb logic of pakistan losing to Australia to nail a coffin in India's 2009 chances will also be met with the same dumb logic of India losing to England in 2019.

You have now.way out of this embarassment. No amount of your poorly written posts will repel me away if that is something you're trying to do here.
Lol...come again for more...ok I will oblige 😂
 
I know but you also said that since Ind would have lost to Aus later on so the loss to Pak in 2009 CT was a knockout punch ... right ?

By his dumb logic , India also gave a knockout punch to Pakistan in 2015 by ensuring they face Australia in the QF and lose...which they did. Unlike in 2009, which is just another coulda shoulda woulda nonsense as the game didn't even happen.
 
Again woulda could shoulda rona dhona... :kakmal

Why did you get knocked out in 2019? Because you lost to India in a do or die game..

Why did you get knocked out in 2025? Because you lost to India in a do or die game..

Dont cry now just because I use your same dumb logic against you and show you your stupidity in a mirror.

There's more worth in saying India knocked Pakistan in all the above tournaments than saying Pakistan knocked us out in 2009. And your previous dumb logic of pakistan losing to Australia to nail a coffin in India's 2009 chances will also be met with the same dumb logic of India losing to England in 2019.

You have no way out of this embarassment. No amount of your poorly written posts will repel me away if that is something you're trying to do here.
Prove it the bold part in your entire life lol and I would apologize you(as you can't ever)😜

Why you feel so embarrassed to accept what Pakistan offered your team... Lol MR 3-1 🤣🤣🤣
First you couldn't answer about how many finals your team has lost against Pakistan, Secondly you are dodging CT 2004 broad daylight knocked out by India by Pakistan.
And now crying but but RAIN for 2019.
And lol Pak was last in group in 2025 and got out primarily because of NZ who first achieved big win and then by beating BAN ended Pak journey.

Lol...keep on crying now 😭
 
By his dumb logic , India also gave a knockout punch to Pakistan in 2015 by ensuring they face Australia in the QF and lose...which they did. Unlike in 2009, which is just another coulda shoulda woulda nonsense as the game didn't even happen.
Lol...how much have I humbled you to get to this rambling....anyways by your logic then we ensured you got kicked out 🦶 in SF 2015 lol

Lol...forget about clutching to straw...you guys have gone crazy now...easy man easy...as Mourinho used to say.
 
Prove it the bold part in your entire life lol and I would apologize you(as you can't ever)😜

Quoting only the section of your post that made somewhat sense.

Yes it was a do or die match for Pakistan and you ended up getting nailed. After the NRR bashing you got at the hands of WI , the only way pakistan would have qualified for the SF was by winning 6 games. They did not afford to lose the game against us but still proceeded to lose.

There's a reason why they couldn't make the SF even after winning all the games after losing to India. If that not knocking a team out .then I don't know what is. :ROFLMAO:
 
Quoting only the section of your post that made somewhat sense.

Yes it was a do or die match for Pakistan and you ended up getting nailed. After the NRR bashing you got at the hands of WI , the only way pakistan would have qualified for the SF was by winning 6 games. They did not afford to lose the game against us but still proceeded to lose.

There's a reason why they couldn't make the SF even after winning all the games after losing to India. If that not knocking a team out .then I don't know what is. :ROFLMAO:
🫡 To your logic

Yep Babar preferring his 100 against NZ and Afghanistan exuberance deterred from improving Pak its RR were just fantasies 😂
 
Lol...how much have I humbled you to get to this rambling....anyways by your logic then we ensured you got kicked out 🦶 in SF 2015 lol

Lol...forget about clutching to straw...you guys have gone crazy now...easy man easy...as Mourinho used to say.

What? Looks like you lost your mind after all this humiliation.

Knocked out in SF 2025? :viru

Who is lifting the trophy below? Pakistan? :yk


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This CT will be memorable for
  1. the long loooongs threads about how BCCI was brought to its knees by PCB.
  2. How world will come to a stop without India-Pakistan match.
  3. The leaking roofs of world class Gadaffi stadium.
  4. Mohsin Naqvi suddenly falling sick for the finals :ROFLMAO:
  5. Learning that there is language barriers exist for the COO of PCB
  6. The US$10 million profit earned by PCB from this one tournament

Baaki sab routine tha, India came, India saw, India conquered! :hamster:
 
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Boss, we have won 5 Under 19 world cups compared to the 2 you have

These comparisons won't end well for you :rabada2
It's true that ICC U19 stuff should not be given this much importance but why your friend @Mesozoic doesn't accept that Pakistan has knocked India 3 times too...atleast on 2 occasions he agrees
 
It's true that ICC U19 stuff should not be given this much importance but why your friend doesn't accept that Pakistan has knocked India 3 times too...atleast on 2 occasions he agrees
Only once in a KO and that was CT '17. Difficult to accept things that happen only in active imagination :rabada2
 
Only once in a KO and that was CT '17. Difficult to accept things that happen only in active imagination :rabada2
Please read carefully was he talking about ICC events KO or getting knocked out in ICC events

This is what he wrote

And this is my response 👇
 
Please read carefully was he talking about ICC events KO or getting knocked out in ICC events

This is what he wrote

And this is my response 👇
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Yes, and India have knocked PAK out thrice in ICC events and PAK have knocked India out only once. Mesozoic is absolutely correct
 
Please read carefully was he talking about ICC events KO or getting knocked out in ICC events

This is what he wrote

And this is my response 👇
Please watch again 😉

Hopefully you don't consider CT 2004 now as a non ICC event.
 
This thread has run its course. Last I checked Cricinfo there is asterisk in the record :)
 
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Yes, and India have knocked PAK out thrice in ICC events and PAK have knocked India out only once. Mesozoic is absolutely correct

This guy has lost his mind after repeated humiliations at my hands. :uakmal

He got so triggered that he created a whole another thread . :ROFLMAO:

Looks like it's going to take some time to recover :inti
 
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This CT will be memorable for
  1. the long loooongs threads about how BCCI was brought to its knees by PCB.
  2. How world will come to a stop without India-Pakistan match.
  3. The leaking roofs of world class Gadaffi stadium.
  4. Mohsin Naqvi suddenly falling sick for the finals :ROFLMAO:
  5. Learning that there is language barriers exist for the COO of PCB
  6. The US$10 million profit earned by PCB from this one tournament

Baaki sab routine tha, India came, India saw, India conquered! :hamster:


Excellent summary. :inti
 
Firstly the amount of Indians (minus the usual posters who actually care to be objective) going ballistic is nuts. If I was truly secure in my patriotism - I wouldn't spends hours typing away seeking validation from an enemy people. Just saying.

The top dog in cricket ALWAYS gets criticism. England were for being colonialists, West Indies were called thugs, Australia were bemoaned for sledging. Now it's your turn, it comes with the territory so get over it.

Now no sane person doubts India's white ball teams are stacked and capable of winning tournaments without any inbuilt advantages.

However let's be real - staying in one location for the entire duration of CT25 greatly reduced their margin for error. Tactics and team selections are far less likely to alter than if you're changing from one venue to another.

Fundamentally the reason why people watch sporting tournaments is the jeopardy around the outcome, the drama of not knowing what will happen as teams evolve to changing conditions and scenarios. Once you lose that, why bother watching ?

It's not an India thing, NO team should enjoy such an advantage. Even the home team is obligated to travel around their nation. I feel for India's players because the administrators have put a disclaimer next to their accomplishment when some common sense and planning (hosting rights were agreed in 2021 !) could've avoided this scenario. Replace Pindi where 2 out of 3 games were lost to rain/poor drainage with another UAE venue and there's no controversy here.
 
Firstly the amount of Indians (minus the usual posters who actually care to be objective) going ballistic is nuts. If I was truly secure in my patriotism - I wouldn't spends hours typing away seeking validation from an enemy people. Just saying.

The top dog in cricket ALWAYS gets criticism. England were for being colonialists, West Indies were called thugs, Australia were bemoaned for sledging. Now it's your turn, it comes with the territory so get over it.

Now no sane person doubts India's white ball teams are stacked and capable of winning tournaments without any inbuilt advantages.

However let's be real - staying in one location for the entire duration of CT25 greatly reduced their margin for error. Tactics and team selections are far less likely to alter than if you're changing from one venue to another.

Fundamentally the reason why people watch sporting tournaments is the jeopardy around the outcome, the drama of not knowing what will happen as teams evolve to changing conditions and scenarios. Once you lose that, why bother watching ?

It's not an India thing, NO team should enjoy such an advantage. Even the home team is obligated to travel around their nation. I feel for India's players because the administrators have put a disclaimer next to their accomplishment when some common sense and planning (hosting rights were agreed in 2021 !) could've avoided this scenario. Replace Pindi where 2 out of 3 games were lost to rain/poor drainage with another UAE venue and there's no controversy here.
The voice of sanity all these years....
 
Jokes aside, worst tournament ever.

Pathetic hosting by PCB

Poor crowds

Washed out games

Logistics issues

Sore losers ROW fans on the knockouts

A forgettable tournamen
england australia match and nz saffa MATCH HAD BIGGER CROWDS THAN ANY NEUTRALS MATCH IN INDIA
but yes otherwise PCB administration were horrible as always , and India were bullies as always getting their way. 2 tournaments now won with huge advantages of venue rigging
 
U19 hahahahahahha

India humiliated Pakistan in two consecutive u19 world cup semi finals in 2018 and 2020. ..

First Gill and then Jaiswal made mincemeat of your overhyped tailunts. :ROFLMAO:
Lol...so finally you accepting that U19 holds importance....so get owned again

As now in ICC finals it's 2-1 Pakistan against India 😎...But but sir kiptly cup and 7 others were in India, Bangladesh and Sharjah 🤣🤣
 
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