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How will cricket fans remember India’s ICC Champions Trophy 2025 win: unfair advantage or well-deserved victory?

How will cricket fans remember India’s ICC Champions Trophy 2025 win?

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BDfanforever said:
You can count 2015 ODI WC where Starc and Hazelwood was there, Cummins was upcoming with Mitchell Marsh around that time. Add the World Test Championship plus the ODI WC 2023.

That's basically 3-0 in major tournaments knockout in favor of Aus legendary attack. However, that's a good thing because only such team can challenge current IND unless other teams steps up. NZ is also ridiculously good given the resources they got.
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With Pandya Australia has not beaten India even once in an ICC event.
 
basitmian said:
Imagine planning for playing all games on the same pitch. You plan and pick the team for the same pitch. By the fifth game you already know every mark on the pitch and the expected ground conditions. Never happened in any ICC tournament before. But that is fair advantage?

Where as the other teams had to adapt in different conditions and carry extra seamers. NZ did not have the luxury to carry Ish Sodhi, etc. in the 15 squad. I am sure they would loved to add another spinner in final if they could instead of Rourke.
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1. No it wasn't played on the same pitch. Different wickets were used for different games and they all behaved differently. Ban game had seam movement..Pak and NZ games had turn and grip... Australia game was flat batting wicket etc etc.

2. It is not the first time that a tournament was played in two varying conditions. 2023 WC in India was played on all kinds of surfaces and it's upto the teams to select a squad that will provide them players for all conditions.

3. All teams were aware that the India games will be played in Dubai a good two months before the start of the tournament and its not like it came as a sudden surprise to them.

4. These all are loser excuses made by loser fans whose team(s) got mauled by India and even worse....ended up losing the only title you held to India.

Harsh words but nothing but facts.
 
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ufcfan said:
Rana and Pandya are quicker than all Pakistan attack lol
The kid was bowling 146+ vs pak,just see the audacity
If not for Dubai,it had been carnage in pakistan by Indian batsmen
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Mark wood and Ngidi are faster and look what happened to them in Lahore. Rana and Pandya would be cannon fodder in Lahore like other bowlers.

Stop making this about Ind vs Pak. We are discussing NZ vs India
 
jnaveen1980 said:
India would have scored 500 runs on those tracks with the depth they have lol
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It's really funny to see the frustrations coming out now. Makes the win that much more sweeter.

These guys were chest thumping about how Pak and NZ will put India out of the tournament just like they did in 2021 and then they'll all play in Pakistan etc etc but now they're throwing these lame hissy fits as India handed their rear ends on a plate and snatched the trophy away from them like a father snatches candy from his brat child. :ROFLMAO:
 
Mesozoic said:
1. No it wasn't played on the same pitch. Different wickets were used for different games and they all behaved differently. Ban game had seam movement..Pak and NZ games had turn and grip... Australia game was flat batting wicket etc etc.

2. It is not the first time that a tournament was played in two varying conditions. 2023 WC in India was played on all kinds of surfaces and it's upto the teams to select a squad that will provide them players for all conditions.

3. All teams were aware that the India games will be played in Dubai a good two months before the start of the tournament and its not like it came as a sudden surprise to them.

4. These all are loser excuses made by loser fans whose team(s) got mauled by India and even worse....ended up losing the only title you held to India.

Harsh words .but nothing but facts.
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1. Not a single pitch was a team going to score more than 300 In Dubai. Weather plays a role in pitches and all pitches exihibit same characteristics on a ground. You are saying pitches were different?

2. Not a single time where a team played on the pitch conditions for the whole tournament
3. They had to plan for other pitch conditions not just Dubai.
4. Resorting to name calling is childish behavior.

India played great cricket, they won it so enjoy it. But they had unfair advantage. Period. The whole world knows it except some delusional fans.
 
Mesozoic said:
It's really funny to see the frustrations coming out now. Makes the win that much more sweeter.

These guys were chest thumping about how Pak and NZ will put India out of the tournament just like they did in 2021 and then they'll all play in Pakistan etc etc but now they're throwing these lame hissy fits as India handed their rear ends on a plate and snatched the trophy away from them like a father snatches candy from his brat child. :ROFLMAO:
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Ya.. they have to keep throwing the intangibles to cope with India's win. It is embarrassing to come up with excuses for the team that is not theirs lol. Even usual whiners have come to terms.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1898770427721245074
 
basitmian said:
1. Not a single pitch was a team going to score more than 300 In Dubai. Weather plays a role in pitches and all pitches exihibit same characteristics on a ground. You are saying pitches were different?

2. Not a single time where a team played on the pitch conditions for the whole tournament
3. They had to plan for other pitch conditions not just Dubai.
4. Resorting to name calling is childish behavior.

India played great cricket, they won it so enjoy it. But they had unfair advantage. Period. The whole world knows it except some delusional fans.
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Varun would have destroyed you even in Pakistan. WHat makes you think he will fail there. Nobody could read him in South Africa. Nobody could read him on flat Indian wickets. He is not a fake mystery bowler like ABrar. Tell me which bowler is even remotely close to Varun C in that group.
 
Champuons trophy is a second rate tournament. So my opinion is it will not at all be remembered.
 
basitmian said:
1. Not a single pitch was a team going to score more than 300 In Dubai. Weather plays a role in pitches and all pitches exihibit same characteristics on a ground. You are saying pitches were different?

2. Not a single time where a team played on the pitch conditions for the whole tournament
3. They had to plan for other pitch conditions not just Dubai.
4. Resorting to name calling is childish behavior.

India played great cricket, they won it so enjoy it. But they had unfair advantage. Period. The whole world knows it except some delusional fans.
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These are dumb arguments thar reek.of coping mechanism.

The reason no team scored 300+ is because India were bowling first in 4 out of 5 games and it's not easy to score 300 against this indian attack. The game today or the Australia game , had India batted first we may as well have scored that much batting first as the wickets looked pretty flat for the two games.

You need to find better ways to deal with this I'm afraid.
 
Mesozoic said:
These are dumb arguments thar reek.of coping mechanism.

The reason no team scored 300+ is because India were bowling first in 4 out of 5 games and it's not easy to score 300 against this indian attack. The game today or the Australia game , had India batted first we may as well have scored that much batting first as the wickets looked pretty flat for the two games.

You need to find better ways to deal with this I'm afraid.
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Add Ish Sodhi in the game instead of Rourke tonight, the win with only 6 balls left would not have happened.
NZ could not carry another spinner in their 15 squad as they had to play games on other non-dust bowl pitches.
 
basitmian said:
Add Ish Sodhi in the game instead of Rourke tonight, the win with only 6 balls left would not have happened.
NZ could not carry another spinner in their 15 squad as they had to play games on other non-dust bowl pitches.
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NZ had the option today to get a spinning replacement for Matt Henry, but they went for a pacer and barely bowled him for 2 overs. They also had another spinner in Glenn Philips but chose to bowl him for only 5 overs. Let’s stop these crazy theories please.
 
NZ were beaten two times in the same tournament by the Indian team.

You can wish for oranges to grow on apple trees and pretend if the crop was watered properly oranges would start spilling out.

But no amount of crop watering will change the apple tree to an orange one.

India can play NZ on a flatbed of Pakistan or flat tundras of Mongolia or 50 m boundaries of NZ, they will still lose 8 times of 10 to India in every match.

Anything else is just a desperate coping mechanism that India lifted another title.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
NZ were beaten two times in the same tournament by the Indian team.

You can wish for oranges to grow on apple trees and pretend if the crop was watered properly oranges would start spilling out.

But no amount of crop watering will change the apple tree to an orange one.

India can play NZ on a flatbed of Pakistan or flat tundras of Mongolia or 50 m boundaries of NZ, they will still lose 8 times of 10 to India in every match.

Anything else is just a desperate coping mechanism that India lifted another title.
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India has beaten NZ 7 times in a row including this match in the one dayers in different conditions.
 
basitmian said:
Add Ish Sodhi in the game instead of Rourke tonight, the win with only 6 balls left would not have happened.
NZ could not carry another spinner in their 15 squad as they had to play games on other non-dust bowl pitches.
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ish sodhi does not have accuracy and would have been beaten around.

kuldeep and varun are special in the sense they are extremely accurate non finger spinners
 
sweep_shot said:
I am likely to remember CT 2025 for this: :inti

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So the top two teams are the ones who traveled the most and the one that did not travel.

In my field of data science we would say that the distance travel signal is very weak with no lift.

Now if you said the teams with two spinners averaging under 25 were your signal, that would be a strong predictor.
 
India have enjoyed unprecedented success in ICC events over the last 18 months, winning 10 matches in the ODI World Cup before falling short in the final, before going on to lift the T20 World Cup last year in Barbados, and now adding on to it with a Champions Trophy victory to boot.The sole loss came in the 2023 World Cup final, where they where ambushed by Travis Head.
The innings from Travis that secured an unlikely triumph for Australia in the 2023 final remains one of the greatest in World Cup history, and that's basically what it takes to beat India these days
In total, India have won 22 of their last 23 matches across ICC competitions, and coming away with two trophies as well as runners-up medals.
Instead of praising a team that played good cricket throughout the various tournament, some jealous commentators/ analysts/fans tried their best to malign their triumph.
Instead of holding their own teams accountable for their disastrous performances ( Pakistan and England specifically), they derive their happiness by pulling down others. This behaviour by a certain section explains why their teams havebecome so miserable.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
NZ were beaten two times in the same tournament by the Indian team.

You can wish for oranges to grow on apple trees and pretend if the crop was watered properly oranges would start spilling out.

But no amount of crop watering will change the apple tree to an orange one.

India can play NZ on a flatbed of Pakistan or flat tundras of Mongolia or 50 m boundaries of NZ, they will still lose 8 times of 10 to India in every match.

Anything else is just a desperate coping mechanism that India lifted another title.
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This post has summarized it very well. Probably should be stickied so that all the sour grape posters can understand it.
 
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Well it does make an effect, no toll on fitness and less distraction, still India played like a champion Team 👏
 
Hellion said:
Karma and God willing, the immoral nation of Bangladesh will not even qualify for the next World Cup
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If you say so.

Thats your wish.

Lets see.

But Karma will hit the arrogant bcci india cricket team. InshAllah.
jnaveen1980 said:
Varun would have destroyed you even in Pakistan. WHat makes you think he will fail there. Nobody could read him in South Africa. Nobody could read him on flat Indian wickets. He is not a fake mystery bowler like ABrar. Tell me which bowler is even remotely close to Varun C in that group.
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Varun C is good, doing well so far. Let’s not overhype him. Remember Ajantha Mendis? He too started so well, destroyed India many times but got found out pretty quickly. It’s about prolonged consistency. Let’s see if your man VC can live upto that.
 
Kianig89 said:
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Well it does make an effect, no toll on fitness and less distraction, still India played like a champion Team 👏
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That’s madness. 0 KM because they were based in Dubai. Home comfort really. They rested well, probably talked to their family everyday went sightseeing in Dubai while other teams were travelling about doing lots of km’s between two nations. Am sure they even ate their own personal favourite dishes and foods too.
 
Kianig89 said:
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Well it does make an effect, no toll on fitness and less distraction, still India played like a champion Team 👏
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England played at Lahore, Lahore. First two matches 0 kilo meter. They lost both. SA played at Karachi then Rawalpindi then Karachi. They travelled more. SA still butchered England. If we deep dive into this "kilometer nonsense" one can easily expose this pathetic argument. WIns of teams will not be tied to kilometers. Anyone who thinks that need to have their head examined. If we have this kilometer calculaton for each world cup you probably would notice some team travelling more than others.

If these guys are genuinely honest they should just sympathize with NZ. Bangladesh travelled only 1953 km. What did they do? WHy didn't they win more? Why is no outrage bangladesh travelled 6000 km less. Beause Bangladesh sucks. You can go to moon and still knock them senseless.
 
So if anyone tours England for an away series you will be calculating kilometer and say "You have kilometer advantage" . NZ gave none of this excuse. THat is why they won a series in India. Kangladesh is struggling to beat ZImbabwe.
 
Mas-LFC said:
If you say so.

Thats your wish.

Lets see.

But Karma will hit the arrogant bcci india cricket team. InshAllah.

Varun C is good, doing well so far. Let’s not overhype him. Remember Ajantha Mendis? He too started so well, destroyed India many times but got found out pretty quickly. It’s about prolonged consistency. Let’s see if your man VC can live upto that.
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The only ones karma is gonna hit with a vengeance are the Bangladeshis . If you think this is bad , you wait and watch what will happen in the coming year.

Mark my words .
 
Wasim Akram believes India would have won in Pakistan too:

"Yes, there were a lot of talks once it was decided that India would play all of their matches in Dubai. But had they played in Pakistan, they would have won there as well,"

"They won the 2024 T20 World Cup without losing a game, they went on to win the Champions Trophy without losing even one game which shows the depth in their cricket, that shows the leadership,"

"If you remember, they lost 3-0 to New Zealand in the Test series at home, lost the Border-Gavaskar trophy, and lost the series in Sri Lanka. They were under pressure to remove the captain, the coach but sanity prevailed. BCCI backed them, said 'this is our captain, this is our coach' and now they are the champion of the champions,"
 
Hellion said:
The only ones karma is gonna hit with a vengeance are the Bangladeshis . If you think this is bad , you wait and watch what will happen in the coming year.

Mark my words .
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I don't understand why BD fans are trolling us? I see BD fans on social media and BVB here talking smack about Pak but what has their team done? Ok India played well and their fans can gloat in our faces for a while but BD?!
 
basitmian said:
1. Not a single pitch was a team going to score more than 300 In Dubai. Weather plays a role in pitches and all pitches exihibit same characteristics on a ground. You are saying pitches were different?

2. Not a single time where a team played on the pitch conditions for the whole tournament
3. They had to plan for other pitch conditions not just Dubai.
4. Resorting to name calling is childish behavior.

India played great cricket, they won it so enjoy it. But they had unfair advantage. Period. The whole world knows it except some delusional fans.
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India batting second against Pakistan scored 244/4 after 42.3. If they continued they would have comfortably scored 320.
 
SportsWarrior said:
Why put trash BD team there. They are not achieving anything even if they travel nothing. BD team and their fans should sit down when elders are talking. Tum logo se kabi kuch nahi ho payega.
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Funniest thing i watched in the final thread is them giving advice to NZ about how to go about their innings while batting, how to set up field while fielding.
 
nish_mate said:
Going forward I propose BD is replaced by SL or WI, those two teams will put up a better show than perpetual minnows BD.

Intact BD shouldn't even invited to elite tourneys.
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Replace BD with even Nepal and you will better entertainment than the pathetic quality of cricket and entertainment you will get from BD player.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Funniest thing i watched in the final thread is them giving advice to NZ about how to go about their innings while batting, how to set up field while fielding.
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Yeah, and all they have to after three decades of white ball cricket is asia cup final appearance. If any team was provided this much support they would have been top five team. You should watch a game with them in dhaka. You would think their team is peak Australia. I watched a T20 game and Mushfiq who will not make it to a club team top countries t20 league was given a standing ovation whene scored a pathetic 20 something at 110 strike rate. People were literally gushing over him and saying how world cup is around the corner. That country and it's fans are delusional

Pakistanis being proud and even headstrong I can understand, BD fans arrogance is pathetic and cringe
 
Since the 2017 Champions Trophy no team, I mean, no team has a positive W/L ratio over India. India's lowest W/L ratio is against Australia which is 1.416. Pakistan's last ODI win against India came on 18 Jun 2017. NZ have only won 7 of their last 22 ODI games against India. So technically where ever India plays the opposition more often than not will lose to India. This is what we have seen over the last 3 ICC events. No team has a positive W/L ratio against India in T20Is as well over the 8 years or so. India have been by far the best white ball team over the last decade. They haven't won the trophies which they should have. Yeah there are some issues with this tournament and ICC should have possibly played it without India. I don't think India would have minded that.

They could have played a India A vs B vs C and could have still gotten more viewership than the CT 2025 but ICC would not have allowed that because they lose a bunch of money. I know this farcical but again you cannot fault the players. They have nothing to do regarding this fiasco. The team is best in the world at the moment and I don't think playing in Pakistan would have changed that. You can create 100 threads like this to undermine the win but the point is that the best team of the tournament won.

The only thing ICC needs to do is to grow some courage and be ready to conduct tournaments without India if they refuse to travel. BCCI listens to Govt of India and the players have to just do what the board/Govt says. It is not their fault and they can only play the conditions they have been given. No point in getting angry on the team, ICC should have the guts to say if India don't travel we will play without them. If they don't then there is no point in blaming anyone.
 
basitmian said:
Imagine planning for playing all games on the same pitch. You plan and pick the team for the same pitch. By the fifth game you already know every mark on the pitch and the expected ground conditions. Never happened in any ICC tournament before. But that is fair advantage?

Where as the other teams had to adapt in different conditions and carry extra seamers. NZ did not have the luxury to carry Ish Sodhi, etc. in the 15 squad. I am sure they would loved to add another spinner in final if they could instead of Rourke.
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They played on the same ground, not on the same pitch. Also all the teams knew that they will be playing few games in Dubai as the fixtures were released to the teams and they could have changed their squads. India did add Varun before the deadline and other teams could have done that as well. Many NZ, England players play in IL 20 as well and they are aware of the conditions. They could have added another spinner to their squad when they learnt that India will be playing in Dubai. Also India being a top team they should have known that one Semi-Final and the Final may be played in Dubai as well. This wasn't a secret and all the boards knew it prior as there was a discussion and agreement within the boards. All teams may act innocent after making a blunder in squad selections but that has nothing to do with India.

Every squad had one extra pacer for a short tournament which only had 5 games if they reached the finals. Don't see a point. No matter where teams play, even a tournament in SA will have squads with 2 spinners. England almost every time everywhere used to play Moeen/Rashid in the playing XI. SA always played Maharaj/Tahir and Shamsi, NZ always played Sodhi and Santner even in NZ, so why pick a team without second spinner in the sub-continent? What did pacers achieve except for Matt Henry and Shami? Pakistan complained so much about Jason Gillespie not picking spinners for home games during the Test series loss against Bangladesh, so why did they not pick another spinner when they knew their game against India will be in Dubai?
 
giri26 said:
They played on the same ground, not on the same pitch. Also all the teams knew that they will be playing few games in Dubai as the fixtures were released to the teams and they could have changed their squads. India did add Varun before the deadline and other teams could have done that as well. Many NZ, England players play in IL 20 as well and they are aware of the conditions. They could have added another spinner to their squad when they learnt that India will be playing in Dubai. Also India being a top team they should have known that one Semi-Final and the Final may be played in Dubai as well. This wasn't a secret and all the boards knew it prior as there was a discussion and agreement within the boards. All teams may act innocent after making a blunder in squad selections but that has nothing to do with India.

Every squad had one extra pacer for a short tournament which only had 5 games if they reached the finals. Don't see a point. No matter where teams play, even a tournament in SA will have squads with 2 spinners. England almost every time everywhere used to play Moeen/Rashid in the playing XI. SA always played Maharaj and Shamsi, NZ always played Sodhi and Santner even in NZ, so why pick a team without second spinner in the sub-continent? What did pacers achieve except for Matt Henry and Shami? Pakistan complained so much about Jason Gillespie not picking spinners for home games during the Test series loss against Bangladesh, so why did they not pick another spinner when they knew their game against India will be in Dubai?
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Ya.. everyone sounds like Pakistan pitches are fast bowling paradise that they had to pick a completely different team. The thing is they don't have any quality spinners even if they want to.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Ya.. everyone sounds like Pakistan pitches are fast bowling paradise that they had to pick a completely different team. The thing is they don't have any quality spinners even if they want to.
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Actually every team has players regularly playing in IL T20 and have more knowledge of the conditions in Dubai than the Indian team who last played on those wickets in 2023 Asia cup. Now everyone is saying that India had more knowledge of the conditions lol. After seeing how pacers were treated in the ODI Tri-Series prior to CT 2025 in Pakistan, how did the teams think pace is the way to go in Pakistan? When Pakistan themselves made a blunder what can we say about the other teams who are perennial whingers.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Wasim Akram believes India would have won in Pakistan too:

"Yes, there were a lot of talks once it was decided that India would play all of their matches in Dubai. But had they played in Pakistan, they would have won there as well,"

"They won the 2024 T20 World Cup without losing a game, they went on to win the Champions Trophy without losing even one game which shows the depth in their cricket, that shows the leadership,"

"If you remember, they lost 3-0 to New Zealand in the Test series at home, lost the Border-Gavaskar trophy, and lost the series in Sri Lanka. They were under pressure to remove the captain, the coach but sanity prevailed. BCCI backed them, said 'this is our captain, this is our coach' and now they are the champion of the champions,"
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Gotta agree with this. India would've won in Pakistan too, imagine the support and love they would've received playing the final in Lahore. Would've been like a home crowd.

To add, they lost every single toss so even that wasn't a factor. I do think though teams could've done better against them in hindsight. Especially New Zealand who should've included an extra full time spinner in the final.
 
No doubt it was a well-deserved win. Even if they played in Pakistan they would probably have won it. If other teams can make 350 on those wickets, these indians batsmen could have made 390. They were unbeaten, had all areas well covered. Their dominance reminded me of Australia of past.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
England played at Lahore, Lahore. First two matches 0 kilo meter. They lost both. SA played at Karachi then Rawalpindi then Karachi. They travelled more. SA still butchered England. If we deep dive into this "kilometer nonsense" one can easily expose this pathetic argument. WIns of teams will not be tied to kilometers. Anyone who thinks that need to have their head examined. If we have this kilometer calculaton for each world cup you probably would notice some team travelling more than others.

If these guys are genuinely honest they should just sympathize with NZ. Bangladesh travelled only 1953 km. What did they do? WHy didn't they win more? Why is no outrage bangladesh travelled 6000 km less. Beause Bangladesh sucks. You can go to moon and still knock them senseless.
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We traveled the most in 23WC and still reached the final ... that will now be conveniently forgotten.... sore losers like jhaadu_shot make this win very very satisfying 🤗
 
uppercut said:
We traveled the most in 23WC and still reached the final ... that will now be conveniently forgotten.... sore losers like jhaadu_shot make this win very very satisfying 🤗
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Everyone act like there is a "jet lag" after 1.5 hours of travel and they are sleeping on the ground. Did Glen Philips look like someone impacted by travel. People have to be logical.
 
uppercut said:
The non stop rona-dhona by the usual suspects has definitely made this win faar memorable than it would have otherwise been. Even NZ fans/players are super chilled but not our padosees.... hilarious 🤣
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Here it is expected. I wouldn't worry. ON social media South Africans are the biggest whiners. Not even New zealanders. Then English. South Africans didn't even play at Dubai. They just travelled. Again it is not the faul of anyone else.
 
Mas-LFC said:
That’s madness. 0 KM because they were based in Dubai. Home comfort really. They rested well, probably talked to their family everyday went sightseeing in Dubai while other teams were travelling about doing lots of km’s between two nations. Am sure they even ate their own personal favourite dishes and foods too.
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& Used the same Loo's, dishwashers, same laundry service, pressed the same elevator buttons, the same bird pooped on them everyday, each guy in the team had his hair cut by the same hazam thrice, they even goot sick of recognising their pre used towels, bed sheets, pillow covers when it came back from the wash...
What a na insaafi of herculean proportions.... How dare they....😄😁😜👍🎯🔥🔥👻🖐️
 
As an indian fan, obviously my takeway/memories would have a slant. ....
:wasim
but here goes...

Varun Chakravarthy - dude made an instant impression...a tribute to the adage - keep trying, be honest, work harder

Jonty Glenn Gravity defying Phillips ...and the fact that some commie mentioned he does 800 pushups/day

Rachin Ravindra - Absolute star

PM SS's speech before it all began(with all due respect) never heard any like this

Shreyas Iyer - Quiet, methodical, unheralded in his batting -did his stuff, fielded like an absolute cracker mostly, some good throws and run out

Kuldeep - dude looks more confident now, more settled

Tanvir A

Naseem Rajput

22 Pundits

Steve Smith wont be haunting us in White ball cricket any more - but salaam to him!

the memefest this tournament has generated

Akshar Patel - Dude for whom you can include both what i wrote above for Varun and Shreyas

Coping Mechanisms - no limits to the extents

Ravi Jadeja - even after some 14 years of being around the traps, dude is an absolute predator on the field and most batsmen woud'nt take an 2nd on him...

Importance of travel :)

Just when i thought nothing would top the 22 Pundits gadzamillion gyan ka explosion moment, here comes someone saying that it did'nt matter we lost, because the jacket's the Champions wore-had 'Pakistan' written on it...- takes the cake, throws the kitchen sink like an absolute tracer bullet....:)


:Dah
 
Ponting reveals how India’s ‘outstanding’ all-rounders led to Champions Trophy success

The Australian great believes the best teams need a mix of youth and experience - a trait that helped India forge an invincible run at the ICC Champions Trophy 2025.

Ricky Ponting says that while Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli’s experience was the backbone of India’s ICC Champions Trophy 2025 success, they had superlative support from their all-rounders.

Speaking to Crystal Arnold on the latest edition of The ICC Review, Ponting stated, “Their all-rounders right through the tournament were outstanding.

“(Ravindra) Jadeja, Axar Patel, Hardik Pandya, were all outstanding. I said at the start of the tournament I thought India would be really hard to beat because of their overall balance and because of that mix of youth and experience, and once again, in a final, the captain stands up and gets the job done for his team.”

With three all-rounders starting in their playing XI in all five of their games at the recently concluded Champions Trophy, India flexed an incredible batting depth, while also having an array of options to choose with the ball.

Breaking down their contributions, Ponting said, “They were a very well balanced side anyway, but because they had so many all-rounders…when you've got Hardik Pandya, Axar Patel, who they used up the order on a number of occasions for that left-handed option, and with Jadeja there as well, they were a very well balanced team.

“The only thing you would probably say, they probably looked a little bit light on fast bowling, but as it turned out, they didn't need that.

“That's where Hardik Pandya's role becomes really important to be able to bowl with a new ball and get through some overs early to make it a little bit easier for the spinners in the backend of their Powerplay and also through the middle overs where they predominantly bowl and spin pretty much right through the middle of the game.”

Ponting also lavished praise of Axar, who was a regular feature of the Indian team coming into bat mainly at No.5.

“Axar Patel is the other one that I think needs a lot of credit for this tournament. I think his bowling was as consistent and rock solid as you'd ever see," Ponting added.

“Then, just some of those little cameos he played with the bat, coming in earlier and sort of steadying the ship and just making life a little bit easier for the lower order in KL Rahul, Pandya, and Jadeja…I think he deserves a lot of credit for his tournament.”

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BCCI is shooting themselves in the foot with its blatant rigging of fixtures. They have an incredible team which will compete to win in any conditions, so why BCCI even resorts to doing such fixing is beyond me. What they have done is put an asterisk to all of their victories.
 
Savak said:
Nope. Won't be remembered.
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Like the 1983 WC is barely remembered in India.

No on will remember CT25 because it was a comp that was resserected when CT17 didn't go to plan for BCCI.

Everyone will remember CT17 though, because losses are remembered for an eternity.
 
India's CT 2025 win can be described with one image (see below): :inti

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shariqnoor said:
BCCI is shooting themselves in the foot with its blatant rigging of fixtures. They have an incredible team which will compete to win in any conditions, so why BCCI even resorts to doing such fixing is beyond me. What they have done is put an asterisk to all of their victories.
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The so called rigging was done by PCB lol Why are you guys acting like outsiders. You are the freaking hosts. Buck stops at you. BCCI is not the host. If you are going act like slave of BCCI that is not BCCI's fault.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
The so called rigging was done by PCB lol Why are you guys acting like outsiders. You are the freaking hosts. Buck stops at you. BCCI is not the host. If you are going act like slave of BCCI that is not BCCI's fault.
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There were no such complaints before the India pakistan game if you had observed..

The heartburn only started when it became clear that India were too good for these lot and would eventually take the trophy that they've been clinging onto since 2017.
 
Mesozoic said:
There were no such complaints before the India pakistan game if you had observed..

The heartburn only started when it became clear that India were too good for these lot and would eventually take the trophy that they've been clinging onto since 2017.
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Of all the people they had the earliest knowledge about the schedule lol Them acting like they have the least knowledge is really funny.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Like the 1983 WC is barely remembered in India.
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But the reasons are much different ... you see we have another more recent ODI WC win circa 2011 that we can brag about ... you on the other hand will have to make do with the ghisa pita cornered tigers / a.k.a fluke win in the most farcical ODI WC ever.

Technics 1210 said:
No on will remember CT25 because it was a comp that was resserected when CT17 didn't go to plan for BCCI.
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I wonder why it took only 8 year ehh ?


Technics 1210 said:
Everyone will remember CT17 though, because losses are remembered for an eternity.
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You mean you are celebrating a Win in the most meaningless and about to be chopped ICC event per your own acknowledgement above ... lol
 
jnaveen1980 said:
The so called rigging was done by PCB lol Why are you guys acting like outsiders. You are the freaking hosts. Buck stops at you. BCCI is not the host. If you are going act like slave of BCCI that is not BCCI's fault.
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I'm not defending PCB. PCB is a rubbish board with no self-respect.

However, let's not pretend that BCCI doesn't do fixture fixing. They don't need to do that because they will win anyways but they still do. Forget this Champions Trophy, why was the semi-final pre-fixed in Guyana in the World Cup?
 
shariqnoor said:
I'm not defending PCB. PCB is a rubbish board with no self-respect.

However, let's not pretend that BCCI doesn't do fixture fixing. They don't need to do that because they will win anyways but they still do. Forget this Champions Trophy, why was the semi-final pre-fixed in Guyana in the World Cup?
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ICC does that to make it India friendly viewing time.. again to make money. Boards like PCB put there stamp of vote on the schedule.. again to get a small portion of that money. So blame lies with ICC and PCB in this case. BCCI never asks to schedule matches at a specific location. In fact for the World Cup 2023 they made Indian team travel from Dharmsala to Madras.. almost 3500KM and all over India for all the matches.
 
shariqnoor said:
I'm not defending PCB. PCB is a rubbish board with no self-respect.

However, let's not pretend that BCCI doesn't do fixture fixing. They don't need to do that because they will win anyways but they still do. Forget this Champions Trophy, why was the semi-final pre-fixed in Guyana in the World Cup?
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fIXtuRe fIXiNg hahahahahaha... :vk2

You guys are now inventing brand new words to cope. You do realise that it's PCB as the hosts who green signalled the final schedule for this tournament? They're the ones who are responsible for all the logistics and handling of venues and travel for the teams lol.
 
Question for all you guys questioning Ind victory. The womens WPL is going on on now. Mumbai Indians women played 3 games in 4 days and all were must wins. And now will play a final. So will play 4 games in 6 days. The other finalist Delhi C had a break of 6 days now for the final. If women can play and win this way and are not complaining what does it say???

Means its just empty hyperbole. If you are good- you are good. If you are substandard- you are substandard. Simple. The rest is all nonsense. Just excuses thats all. Once on the field- its the same for both teams
 
shariqnoor said:
I'm not defending PCB. PCB is a rubbish board with no self-respect.

However, let's not pretend that BCCI doesn't do fixture fixing. They don't need to do that because they will win anyways but they still do. Forget this Champions Trophy, why was the semi-final pre-fixed in Guyana in the World Cup?
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Once again India was not the host of world T20. :) ICC did it. By all accounts sponsors pulled the strings. Why do you blame bCCI. Ask WICB. India hosted world cup 2023. Do you find anything there? Did they play on the same ground? No. THey travelled to 10 different cities.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
@Mesozoic @hoshiarpurexpress @Bhaijaan @jeeteshssaxena @Devadwal @Nikhil_cric .

Thank you steve Harmsion for putting this Neil Manthorpe in his place.

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Too much Rona Dhona.

Cricket is a game where slight advantages are part of the game due to pitch conditions, toss, squad etc etc. A champion team overcomes those.

They’re talking as if Bangladesh would have won CT if they were in our position.

Thing is Bharat trumped everyone this time with their team selection. Everyone picked their team for Pakistani pitches and nobody seemed to have the foresight that Dubai could be the epicentre of action Turing the tournament.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Too much Rona Dhona.

Cricket is a game where slight advantages are part of the game due to pitch conditions, toss, squad etc etc. A champion team overcomes those.

They’re talking as if Bangladesh would have won CT if they were in our position.

Thing is Bharat trumped everyone this time with their team selection. Everyone picked their team for Pakistani pitches and nobody seemed to have the foresight that Dubai could be the epicentre of action Turing the tournament.
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There is a select group of journalists. British, SA to some extent are on a mission to put BCCI in bad light. It inadvertently puts Indian team in bad light. Harmison has clearly made that distinction here.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
There is a select group of journalists. British, SA to some extent are on a mission to put BCCI in bad light. It inadvertently puts Indian team in bad light. Harmison has clearly made that distinction here.
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Mostly those who don’t get a job at the IPL.

Gillespi is a third class coach who humiliated by PCB of all boards who chose Aqib Javed over him.

David Lloyd is drunkard who the BCCI hasn’t let in the commentary box for ages.

You get the hint
 
India won the trophy and that's all that matters. Having an advantage definitely put them in a favorable position, but at the end of the day, you've got to have the performances to make that advantage count aswell. Decades from now nobody will remember how many kilometers the other teams traveled in comparison to India. All they will remember is who won the tournament.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
India won the trophy and that's all that matters. Having an advantage definitely put them in a favorable position, but at the end of the day, you've got to have the performances to make that advantage count aswell. Decades from now nobody will remember how many kilometers the other teams traveled in comparison to India. All they will remember is who won the tournament.
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Naah the usual suspects and their one BD( or wannabe Aussie) minion will keep meticulous record of Miles travelled per tournament and will bring about a revolution in how cricket stats are calculated going forward ... it will be called the jhaadu_shot method rivaling only the Duckworth Lewis method wherein a whole bunch of Indian trophies will be watered down ... I kid you not :ROFLMAO:​
 
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