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What XI should Pakistan play in the 1st ODI?
 
Imam (C)
Fakhar
Rizwan
Kamran
Tayyab
Haris
Nawaz
Wasim
Usama
Hasnain
Dahani

No space for:
Babar
Shan
Salman
Rauf
Naseem
 
My XI for the first ODI would be -

1) Fakhar
2) Imam
3) Babar
4) Haris
5) Rizwan
6) Kamran
7) Nawaz
8) Wasim
9) Usama
10) Rauf
11) Naseem

Kamran deserves a debut and Usama gets into the team because we need a proper spinner for the middle overs.
 
Who cares?...

Test was dire at times but compelling.

Hopefully Pakistan can provide some new thinking otherwise will be a whitewash
 
We need powerhitters don't see any in the squad. Our batting is actually stronger in ODIS than our bowling but need powerhitters to get those 350+ scores you'll need in the small Indian grounds.
 
1. Imam ul Haq (c)
2. Fakhar Zaman (vc)
3. Mohammed Rizwan (wk)
4. Harris Sohail
5. Mohammed Nawaz
6. Mohammed Wasim
7. Mohammed Hasnain
8. Naseem Shah
9. Haris Rauf
10. Shahnawaz Dahani
11. Shan Masood

I would rather have more bowling options and pinch hitters than supposed specialist batters that can not bat an efficient innings.
 
1. Imam ul Haq (c)
2. Fakhar Zaman (vc)
3. Mohammed Rizwan (wk)
4. Harris Sohail
5. Mohammed Nawaz
6. Mohammed Wasim
7. Mohammed Hasnain
8. Naseem Shah
9. Haris Rauf
10. Shahnawaz Dahani
11. Shan Masood

I would rather have more bowling options and pinch hitters than supposed specialist batters that can not bat an efficient innings.

I have a better team:

1. Faheem Ashraf
2. Anwar Ali
3. Mohammad Rizwan
4. Mohammad Nawaz
5. Mohammad Wasim
6. Amad Butt
7. Usama Mir
8. Naseem Shah
9. Haris Rauf
10. Shahnawaz Dahani
11. Mohammad Hasnain

We can have 10 bowling options. Everybody just needs to bowl 5 overs at full throttle. I think this would be a much better team, given your team's tail starts at number 4 anyways. :P
 
Pakistan will find out after the series loss that they lack hitters...the hitters they have to an extent but are not in the squad.

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan/Haris/Kamran/Salman
HARIS (not in squad)
IFTIKHAR (not in squad)
Nawaz
Wasim
Naseem
Haris
Usama

Others:
Afridi
Shadab
Khushdil (has a better record in Odis, management just needs to look at stats)
 
Babar
Fakhar
Rizwan
Kamran
Tahir
Nawaz
Wasim jr
Usama
Rauf
Naseem
Hasnain

Try out all the newbies before World Cup. If you have selected them then might as well utilise them.
 
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What XI should Pakistan play in the 1st ODI?

This is the team they’ll play:

Shan
Imam
Babar
Kamran
Agha
Rizwan
Nawaz
Mo Wasim
Naseem
Rauf
Usama

Shan will play as he’s VC, Kamran will play as a gesture due to not being picked for the test side, and Agha will play because he played in the Netherlands. The only interesting pick here, barring perhaps Kamran, is Usama. I really really hope he grabs this opportunity with both hands.

I much rather if Fakhar and Haris were given a go, but they’ll lose out on grounds of not having played recently.

Fakhar may play instead of Shan but the rest of this team will be what I’m predicting.
 
Happy that test matches are over. Good to see the team in white ball cricket back. I don't think it will be a very easy series though.
 
My XI for the first ODI would be -

1) Fakhar
2) Imam
3) Babar
4) Haris
5) Rizwan
6) Kamran
7) Nawaz
8) Wasim
9) Usama
10) Rauf
11) Naseem

Kamran deserves a debut and Usama gets into the team because we need a proper spinner for the middle overs.

Where's your vice captain
 
I have a better team:

1. Faheem Ashraf
2. Anwar Ali
3. Mohammad Rizwan
4. Mohammad Nawaz
5. Mohammad Wasim
6. Amad Butt
7. Usama Mir
8. Naseem Shah
9. Haris Rauf
10. Shahnawaz Dahani
11. Mohammad Hasnain

We can have 10 bowling options. Everybody just needs to bowl 5 overs at full throttle. I think this would be a much better team, given your team's tail starts at number 4 anyways. :P

In my XI I wanted as much batsman as possible, but they must be PROPER SKILLED batsman.

That meant I cut off slack debutants, domestic bullies, and parchis from my XI. That is why Imam ul Haq, Fakhar Zaman, Mohammed Rizwan, and Harris Sohail were my top 4.
 
Most likely they will go with this team since gives them 6 bowlers : would much rather have Harris Sohail instead of VC


Fakhar
Imam
Babar (C)
Shan (VC)
Agha
Rizwan
Nawaz
Wasim
Naseem
Rauf
Usama
 
No new players will be tried…currently there is culture of appeasement in the side… they don’t try new players as it makes the deadwood in the side feel uncomfortable and insecure
 
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What XI should Pakistan play in the 1st ODI?

This thread is about the NZ ODI series

The squad is listed above

This is not a thread about who could have been playing.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Matt Henry will return home with other members of the Test Squad not taking part in the ODI Series against Pakistan after suffering an abdominal strain on Day 5 of the 2nd Test in Karachi. A replacement in the ODI Squad to face Pakistan and India will be confirmed soon. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvNZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvNZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/DmzEIDcgJa">pic.twitter.com/DmzEIDcgJa</a></p>— BLACKCAPS (@BLACKCAPS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1611645515124334592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2023</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Matt Henry will return home with other members of the Test Squad not taking part in the ODI Series against Pakistan after suffering an abdominal strain on Day 5 of the 2nd Test in Karachi. A replacement in the ODI Squad to face Pakistan and India will be confirmed soon. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvNZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvNZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/DmzEIDcgJa">pic.twitter.com/DmzEIDcgJa</a></p>— BLACKCAPS (@BLACKCAPS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1611645515124334592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Trent Boult playing BBL

He should play once in Pakistan before retiring
 
My xi would

Imaam
Fakhar
Babar
Kamran Ghulam
Tayyab Tahir
Rizwan
Nawaz


Wasim Jnr
Rauf
Naseeem Shah
Usama
 
Most likely this will be the 11

  1. Fakhar
  2. Imam
  3. Babar (c)
  4. Shan (vc)
  5. Haris
  6. Rizwan (wk)
  7. Agha Salman
  8. Nawaz
  9. Waseem jnr
  10. Naseem
  11. Haris
 
1. Fakhar
2. Imam
3. Babar
4. Shan/Kamran
5. Tayyab
6. Rizwan
7. Nawaz
8. M. Wasim
9. Usama
10. Husnain
11. Dahani

Rest Naseem and Rauf.
Tayyab as 6th bowler. If kamran plays instead of shan then he can be 7th option.
 
Keen to see Tayyab and Usama play all 3 games.

Agha should be kept away.
 
First Milne & now no Matt Henry too.
NZ bowling has weakened quite a bit
 
The XI I would like to see:

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Kamran/Haris
Agha
Rizwan
Nawaz
Wasim Jr
Usama Mir
Naseem
Rauf

I do hope they go with 5 proper bowlers. When Shadab & Nawaz were out in the series vs Australia, they only went with 4 man, one of which was Zahid Mahmood & used Ifti/Khushdil to complete 5th man overs. It was disastrous and they would have lost the series if not for that epic chase. 5 proper bowlers & Agha for left handers if needed keeps the bowling strong and the batting is deep enough.
 
The XI I would like to see:

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Kamran/Haris
Agha
Rizwan
Nawaz
Wasim Jr
Usama Mir
Naseem
Rauf

I do hope they go with 5 proper bowlers. When Shadab & Nawaz were out in the series vs Australia, they only went with 4 man, one of which was Zahid Mahmood & used Ifti/Khushdil to complete 5th man overs. It was disastrous and they would have lost the series if not for that epic chase. 5 proper bowlers & Agha for left handers if needed keeps the bowling strong and the batting is deep enough.

Our batting is too lightweight to win the WC. Unless we find better 5,6,7,8 we are gonna be overpowered in the WC.
 
1) Fakhar
2) Imam
3) Babar
4) Ghulam
5) Tayyab
6) Agha
7) Rizwan
8) Nawaz
9) Naseem
10) Rauf
11) Dahani
 
Who is Usama Mir? Any idea about what the pitches are going to be like? If we see flat roads again then ODIs can be very boring with 350 being scored for fun, I seriously want some sportive wickets that could see 260- 280 being a winning score, hope so. That's when ODIs (or any format for that matter) are at their best.
 
The whole series will be pointless from a Pakistani perspective if newbies like Tayyab, Kamran & Usama dont get to play.

Nobody gives a toss about the results. For me it is about finding fresh blood.
 
Haris Rauf is just back from injury should not be rushed in like Shaheen.
Pakistan should play with positive intent "Play for yourself" brigade should be mentored that team comes first, Alas Shan is vc so he will start definitely

Imam
Fakhar
Shan :facepalm:
Babar
HSOHAIL
Rizwan
Nawaz
Wasimjr
U mir
Hasnain
Naseem
 
Haris Rauf is just back from injury should not be rushed in like Shaheen.
Pakistan should play with positive intent "Play for yourself" brigade should be mentored that team comes first, Alas Shan is vc so he will start definitely

Imam
Fakhar
Shan :facepalm:
Babar
HSOHAIL
Rizwan
Nawaz
Wasimjr
U mir
Hasnain
Naseem

Yes, this seems more likely playing XI. People thinking both Kamran Ghulam and Tayyab will get into playing XI are just hoping.
 
Kane Williamson presser:

“Mohammad Yousuf is an absolute legend. He has got so much to offer. It was great to ask a few questions and hear some of his views on the game,”

“Pakistan are a very strong side and naturally know these conditions really well. For us as a time, it is focusing on the cricket we want to play and put out some improved performances. It is a really good opportunity for us to adjust to some different conditions,”
 
Pakistan tomorrow:

1. Fakhar
2. Imam
3. Babar
4. Sohail
5. Agha
6. Nawaz
7. Rizwan
8. Wasim JR
9. Naseem
10. Rauf
11. Usama Mir
 
Based on what Babar said, Shan probably won’t make the XI. I don’t care what his domestic stats are. He’s underachieved in all formats he’s been selected for despite his domestic stats. He couldn’t crack it in 10 years, time to let him loose.
 
Pakistan tomorrow:

1. Fakhar
2. Imam
3. Babar
4. Sohail
5. Agha
6. Nawaz
7. Rizwan
8. Wasim JR
9. Naseem
10. Rauf
11. Usama Mir

Not watched Agha yet, but that looks a serious team for Asian conditions. When Shadab and SSA are back, semis in WC should be a minimum. As for this series, Pakistan should easily win.
 
Pakistan XI for first ODI.

1. Fakhar
2. Imam
3. Babar (C)
4. Sohail (must play on his birthday)
5. Rizwan (WK)
6. Ghulam
7. Agha
8. Nawaz
9. Wasim
10. Rauf
11. Naseem
 
ODI cricket, like T20 has no value outside WCs. This is an opportunity missed to try the likes of Mubashir and Ihsanullah( although its a good sign he is in the squad). Losing such a pointless series will be forgotten within a week but if we find a couple of players, then that will have a positive long term effect on all our cricket
 
3 0 or 2 1 to kiwis is my prediction unfortunately...i think kiwis have too much of a strong team
 
Isn't Haris still recovering from injury?

Nz have a weak bowling attack, so runs should be on offer
 
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