Pakistan vs Australia | 1st ODI | Sharjah | March 22, 2019 | Pakistan Innings

[Dr_Bassim]

Its funny all those clamoring for Umar at 4 have forgotten that had Handscomb held onto the catch, he would have been out to another slog.

Umar is not a sensible batsmen.

End of.

 

[Rayyman]

Haris is already unfit so he isn't getting fitter at the age of 30. Post WC is the time to look at Saud Shakeel for #4 while UA could pull off another WC. It should be Babar at 3, Saud at 4, and Umar at 5.

Yeah doesn't matter if it's Haris or Saud. Both are exactly the same. Even Saad Ali can get in at 4.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Wow. Umar akmal is back. Just replace Malik with fakhar and Pak are a decent team.

 

[MMHS]

There is a research topic for archaeologist - before today, last when a PAK middle order hit 2 Sixes against a fast bowler in middle overs!!!!

 

[Usman Chadda]

when will pakistanis fan learn that for now they need batsmen who stay at the wicket?

when has maliks power game ever been prevalent? the only time i recall is his 41 ball 82 in 2003.

We need dynamic players. Not another Malik clone, without a power game. Haris has played enough international cricket to realise it's imperative to go at close to run-a-ball in the middle overs. The approach in your post is what Misbah and his ODI team were known for, and that destroyed our ODI cricket.

Malik can up the tempo, while Haris struggles to do so. The staunchest of Malik's detractors will agree to that.

 

[Titan24]

More than the 3 sixes its the other 24 runs with pretty decent running and strike rotation from Umar Akmal which give me a lot of hope for future. Yes he has shortcomings but than everybody has, we should be looking at what he can do rather than what he cant do.

 

[Chokli]

Its funny all those clamoring for Umar at 4 have forgotten that had Handscomb held onto the catch, he would have been out to another slog.

Umar is not a sensible batsmen.

End of.

and if bumrah didn't bowl a no ball, fakhar wouldn't have scored a century.

if we didn't drop tendulkar, pakistan may have restricted india to 200 odd in 2011 mohali.

 

[Gullycricket]

There is a research topic for archaeologist - before today, last when a PAK middle order hit 2 Sixes against a fast bowler in middle overs!!!!

Hafeez .But i do understand your point

 

[Pakhs]

Its funny all those clamoring for Umar at 4 have forgotten that had Handscomb held onto the catch, he would have been out to another slog.

Umar is not a sensible batsmen.

End of.

It doesnt matter, His got the shots to be effective at 4. He wont come off everytime for me he bats at 4 or max 5 no lower.

 

[Titan24]

There is a research topic for archaeologist - before today, last when a PAK middle order hit 2 Sixes against a fast bowler in middle overs!!!!

3 sixes rather and two of them were consecutive.

 

[world cup captain]

Its funny all those clamoring for Umar at 4 have forgotten that had Handscomb held onto the catch, he would have been out to another slog.

Umar is not a sensible batsmen.

End of.

He is not, you're absolutely right. However, a team can afford to have one such batsman if there are no likes of Malik and Sarfraz. Also, it doesn't have to be UA as long as there is a dynamic player with the ability to clear the ground. Unfortunately, such batsmen are a rare breed in Pakistan.

 

[MMHS]

Wow. Umar akmal is back. Just replace Malik with fakhar and Pak are a decent team.

1. Babar
2. Shan (They'll play Imam)
3. Haris/Shan
4. Umar
5. One senior
6. Sarfraz
7. Imad
8. Shadab/Faheem
9. Amir
10. Hasan
11. Shaheen
------------------------
Ahmed, Abbas/Hasnain

Umar as back-up WK.

Good WC squad for UK.

 

[Zeshan547]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] so Umar should be in the XI for WC or not? He is not the Perfect but he is the best available for the this role to up the anti in middle overs.

 

[Titan24]

Its funny all those clamoring for Umar at 4 have forgotten that had Handscomb held onto the catch, he would have been out to another slog.

Umar is not a sensible batsmen.

End of.

Ifs and buts shouldnt work in cricket. As I have said earlier we should be focusing upon what he can do. He can definitely provide much needed fire power in the middle. He is a middle order batsman who can rotate strike well, we batted him 4 down most of his career where there isnt much time to get the eye set or you are coming under a lot of pressure at 80/4.

 

[Darkness]

Did maxwell do that the first time?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

and if bumrah didn't bowl a no ball, fakhar wouldn't have scored a century.

if we didn't drop tendulkar, pakistan may have restricted india to 200 odd in 2011 mohali.

Umar has a history.

Does Tendulkar and Fakhar have a history?

Are you really making those equivalences?

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Why isn't Junaid playing? Should have given him all the games to see his worth. We all already know what Amir is capable of.

 

[Gullycricket]

Why we always give so much respect to Maxwell in bowling.Should smash him

 

[DRsohail]

There is a research topic for archaeologist - before today, last when a PAK middle order hit 2 Sixes against a fast bowler in middle overs!!!!

And they say he had chance, but we have to search that can runs after chance be considered??

 

[coy0607]

35 overs in - Haris needs to pick it up now - make or break time in the game

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Ifs and buts shouldnt work in cricket. As I have said earlier we should be focusing upon what he can do. He can definitely provide much needed fire power in the middle. He is a middle order batsman who can rotate strike well, we batted him 4 down most of his career where there isnt much time to get the eye set or you are coming under a lot of pressure at 80/4.

If a batsmen has a tendency its better to note the trends rather have false belief he is the solution.

People are adamant he is amazing which is my point of contention.

He will fail 3 times out of 5 at 4

Can we afford that?

Thats the only question.

 

[MMHS]

Now people will say Umar is an amazing batsmen.

But he always needs a life or two to perform.

I told you Dr. by AUS series there will be a petition for Umar Akmal .........

You have to judge batsman from his game & shot making ability - these MoHa, Malik are not going to crack something in UK against 140K pace with 4 men on line.

 

[RehanG]

and if bumrah didn't bowl a no ball, fakhar wouldn't have scored a century.

if we didn't drop tendulkar, pakistan may have restricted india to 200 odd in 2011 mohali.

If Pakistan and India didn't separated it would have been one country. If there would be no blood in human body if would be water. If there was no electricity there would be no electricity.

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] so Umar should be in the XI for WC or not? He is not the Perfect but he is the best available for the this role to up the anti in middle overs.

There should be no question about that.

 

[Chokli]

We need dynamic players. Not another Malik clone, without a power game. Haris has played enough international cricket to realise it's imperative to go at close to run-a-ball in the middle overs. The approach in your post is what Misbah and his ODI team were known for, and that destroyed our ODI cricket.

Malik can up the tempo, while Haris struggles to do so. The staunchest of Malik's detractors will agree to that.

You're acting like we have those players that we can just pluck off of trees like a fruit.

The pitch isn't the easiest to bat, this is the UAE after all.

don't forget it was just 6 months ago this team was embarrassed by Bangladesh, India and nearly by Afghanistan.

Malik is a horrible batsman against pace, he's been playing cricket for 20 years now and still hasn't developed his game against pace bowling.

Haris is a much superior batsman than Malik.

It would be different if the WC was in the SC.

As far as Misbah goes, if we had a few more batsman like him in the team we would have won a lot more matches.

 

[Rayyman]

If Malik comes in next I swear.

Should be Faheem or Imad.

 

[MMHS]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] so Umar should be in the XI for WC or not? He is not the Perfect but he is the best available for the this role to up the anti in middle overs.

He should have been PAK regular No. 4 for last 8 years in 3 formats, may be No. 3 in ODI & opener in T20!!!!

 

[Dr_Bassim]

And I am not criticizing him by the way.

But he hasnt improved one bit in the brain department and that was the ONLY reason he was OUT in the first place.

 

[Chokli]

Umar has a history.

Does Tendulkar and Fakhar have a history?

Are you really making those equivalences?

all of those are "what ifs"

stop dealing with what ifs, and the shoulda woulda couldas.

deal with the absolutes.

 

[Titan24]

Why isn't Junaid playing? Should have given him all the games to see his worth. We all already know what Amir is capable of.

We know but unfortunately he is lacking rythm and form and team management is really trying hard for him to get that back. Abbas playing over Junaid is more to do with his decent form I guess.

 

[Gullycricket]

If a batsmen has a tendency its better to note the trends rather have false belief he is the solution.

People are adamant he is amazing which is my point of contention.

He will fail 3 times out of 5 at 4

Can we afford that?

Thats the only question.

Its about who he is competing with.When we play Asif its clearly wiser to give this series to Umar.If we go by past records Shan should never have been in squad

 

[Dr_Bassim]

all of those are "what ifs"

stop dealing with what ifs, and the shoulda woulda couldas.

deal with the absolutes.

Okay absolutes is...

The last time he was out of the team was because he hit BRAINLESS SLOGS.

Did he hit them today?

 

[Rayyman]

Our ODI batting has gotten so much better.

Last ODI, Babar-Haris 100 partnership.

Now Haris-Umar 100 partnership.

Good to see the team improving after the days of Hafeez, YK, Shafiq, Misbah, etc.

 

[Darkness]

Shouldn't we had changed gear in like 35th over?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Its about who he is competing with.When we play Asif its clearly wiser to give this series to Umar.If we go by past records Shan should never have been in squad

Fair enough.

If his competition is Malik and Asif he is miles ahead.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

U. Akmal really looking for that fifty in order to cement his place. Some use of brain from U Akmal it seems.

 

[Gullycricket]

Okay absolutes is...

The last time he was out of the team was because he hit BRAINLESS SLOGS.

Did he hit them today?

One Slog which went wrong but he has to take risks.I feel Fakhar is even worse than him but is rarely critisized

 

[Rayyman]

Shouldn't we had changed gear in like 35th over?

Akmal is on 49

 

[MMHS]

And I am not criticizing him by the way.

But he hasnt improved one bit in the brain department and that was the ONLY reason he was OUT in the first place.

He was out of the PAK team not for brain cell, rather because his game wasn't acceptable to the then Captain. You'll see lots of "brain" if a batsman is allowed to bat at 4 and smoothly operate at 65 SR, rather than putting him at 6-7 with asking over 8. In 14 Tests in NZ, AUS, ENG & SAF, Umar has 999 runs at ~38 (& a SR probably over 65) .... and he played his last Test before 21st birthday - you think, this is for lack of brain cell?

 

[Chokli]

Okay absolutes is...

The last time he was out of the team was because he hit BRAINLESS SLOGS.

Did he hit them today?

you can see what his intention is, his intention is to take the game away from the opposition and be aggressive.


aggressive players are obviously not going to be the most consistent since it is high risk cricket.


but we need that type of player who can play a proper innings and hit out when needed.

 

[Xoib]

If a batsmen has a tendency its better to note the trends rather have false belief he is the solution.

People are adamant he is amazing which is my point of contention.

He will fail 3 times out of 5 at 4

Can we afford that?

Thats the only question.

He has 5 games if he fails in 3 or 4 Mickey will not take him to UK simples.

 

[Titan24]

And I am not criticizing him by the way.

But he hasnt improved one bit in the brain department and that was the ONLY reason he was OUT in the first place.

Any options you have in mind? Every other player out there available to us is more of an accumulator.

Iftikhar, Asif Ali and Umar Akmal are only middle order batsmen I can think of that we have who can accelerate to push the innings when required.

 

[Gullycricket]

Akmal slowing for 50

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Imad should come in next, he should bat higher up the order... With 40+ avg he shouldn't be batting any lower than 6

If there is a career for him, he should contribute with bat as well.. avg 40+ is a good one for any no.5 or no.6 in ODI

 

[Dr_Bassim]

One Slog which went wrong but he has to take risks.I feel Fakhar is even worse than him but is rarely critisized

It takes one slog to get out mate.

Listen, I am not doubting Umar's ability.

I have alwayz doubted his intelligence.

Now looking at him today, I feel despair.

You'd think after 5 years outside in wilderness, he would have learned his lesson.

But he STILL hasnt.

That is recipe for future failures.

 

[Gullycricket]

Imad should come in next, he should bat higher up the order... With 40+ avg he shouldn't be batting any lower than 6

If there is a career for him, he should contribute with bat as well.. avg 40+ is a good one for any no.5 or no.6 in ODI

Hope they dont send Faheem for his 0(1)

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Any options you have in mind? Every other player out there available to us is more of an accumulator.

Iftikhar, Asif Ali and Umar Akmal are only middle order batsmen I can think of that we have who can accelerate to push the innings when required.

Sarfraz can do that and he did it in England scoring centuries... But with Malik and Hafeez he has pushed himself further down and even batted at no.8 i think

 

[Dr_Bassim]

He was out of the PAK team not for brain cell, rather because his game wasn't acceptable to the then Captain. You'll see lots of "brain" if a batsman is allowed to bat at 4 and smoothly operate at 65 SR, rather than putting him at 6-7 with asking over 8. In 14 Tests in NZ, AUS, ENG & SAF, Umar has 999 runs at ~38 (& a SR probably over 65) .... and he played his last Test before 21st birthday - you think, this is for lack of brain cell?

What do you think of the shot he played against Lyon today??

Sensible?

 

[srh]

Faheem Ashraf should never be your batsman at #6.

Pakistan is lucky that Shan, Haris and Umar Akmal have performed today and so the Faheem Ashraf at #6 blunder will not explode on its face.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Good innings from Akmal...

Slogged one ... dropped...

Hit 3 sixes... convinced everyone

Then falls trying another shot.

Let him open with Shan or Fakhar if that is his style.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

It takes one slog to get out mate.

Listen, I am not doubting Umar's ability.

I have alwayz doubted his intelligence.

Now looking at him today, I feel despair.

You'd think after 5 years outside in wilderness, he would have learned his lesson.

But he STILL hasnt.

That is recipe for future failures.

gone with his tullaybaaz intelligence

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Slog and gone. His slog is getting famous than Sachin's straight drive

 

[Pakhs]

UK gone.. the shot looks bad but it will come off on better wickets. Goof innings given the circumstances

 

[Shafi]

Umar Akmal is never a reliable batsman. Even Afridi was better batsman than him. Should be no where near our World Cup Squad.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Good innings from Akmal...

Slogged one ... dropped...

Hit 3 sixes... convinced everyone

Then falls trying another shot.

Let him open with Shan or Fakhar if that is his style.

calling for him to open for a long time, i think he is reluctant do that...

As we all know he doesnt play ground shots to score boundaries, always a wild slog.

 

[Gullycricket]

Mickey Arthur always looks disappointed.

 

[DRsohail]

umar thrown it away, let see what can Malik do.

 

[Titan24]

Ugly shot from Umar to end the innings. Good enough partnership for team's cause but, to become a match winner he has the potential for he needs to learn how to finish the innings.

 

[Darkness]

If malik doesn't hit against maxwell then it's definitely the worst sign lol

 

[Afhan Ali]

Malik the minnow basher
He always struggled against top teams.
He ever score good against Aus, Rsa, Eng, Nz ?

 

[Bilal7]

It has been a decent outing from Akmal. Hopefully, he keeps scoring runs and ideally has a hundred before this series is done. We need him and Haris to be at their best for the World Cup. Imam, Fakhar, Babar, Haris and Akmal batting in the same XI will be great to watch.

I also hope that Haris has been working on his bowling. If he can give Pakistan five to six cheap overs in an innings alongside his batting, it will be invaluable.

 

[Darkness]

Malik paying tribute to asif

 

[Chokli]

It has been a decent outing from Akmal. Hopefully, he keeps scoring runs and ideally has a hundred before this series is done. We need him and Haris to be at their best for the World Cup. Imam, Fakhar, Babar, Haris and Akmal batting in the same XI will be great to watch.

I also hope that Haris has been working on his bowling. If he can give Pakistan five to six cheap overs in an innings alongside his batting, it will be invaluable.

Agreed

 

[MMHS]

What do you think of the shot he played against Lyon today??

Sensible?

I didn't see that (actually not watching), but the point is, now we are in an ODI era when you have to target bowlers through out the course of 50 overs. Playing safe isn't an option any more, because 270 sort of total is bare minimum that you can even think of defending. He might have played a poor shot and got away with, but - first, you have to take chances these days for 300+ totals, second, among available options, he has by far the best probability to attempt that and succeed, even once in 4 times is acceptable, if he can score a 50 ball 50 between overs No. 11-35. Batting conditions are such these days that many, many players can score a 70 ball 50 .... those 20 extra balls are the difference between 270 & 300.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Actually Malik replicated what Akmal does.

Only Malik is not good enough.

 

[Afhan Ali]

Is it the start of another epic collapse?

 

[GreenKhan]

Was a decent innings by Umar Akmal. But given the start he had as well as the dropped chance really should have converted in to a big score . It was set up for him . He had 30 plus overs to bat. Same issue as always . Nevertheless if he can average 40 plus this series then he would have done well.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

The Faheeminator in.

Can the Pakistani Kallis does it? #sarcasm

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I didn't see that (actually not watching), but the point is, now we are in an ODI era when you have to target bowlers through out the course of 50 overs. Playing safe isn't an option any more, because 270 sort of total is bare minimum that you can even think of defending. He might have played a poor shot and got away with, but - first, you have to take chances these days for 300+ totals, second, among available options, he has by far the best probability to attempt that and succeed, even once in 4 times is acceptable, if he can score a 50 ball 50 between overs No. 11-35. Batting conditions are such these days that many, many players can score a 70 ball 50 .... those 20 extra balls are the difference between 270 & 300.

Then let him open.

If he has that much of a license to hit everything, what is he doing at number 4 ?

 

[Pakhs]

LOL at Malik beaten comprehensibly by Maxwell?!

 

[DRsohail]

let see where the terrible Malik supportters hide.

 

[Bilal7]

Big test coming up for Ashraf and Wasim. Let's see if they are simply bowlers who can bat a bit or actual all-rounders.

 

[Afhan Ali]

Faheem the clousner with the chance to face 20+ balls and score 50+

 

[Pakhs]

Then let him open.

If he has that much of a license to hit everything, what is he doing at number 4 ?

Bro WC is in England there will be some big scored.. no harm in having an aggressive player who if he comes off can give us extra 20-30 runs.

 

[srh]

Faheem Ashraf should never be your batsman at #6.

Pakistan is lucky that Shan, Haris and Umar Akmal have performed today and so the Faheem Ashraf at #6 blunder will not explode on its face.

spoken too soon. Malik's spectacular failure allows Faheem to bat before 40th over.

 

[Darkness]

And this uae XD

 

[Bilal7]

Then let him open.

If he has that much of a license to hit everything, what is he doing at number 4 ?

Why do you think that openers have a license to hit everything? If anything, Haris Sohail can be considered as a back-up opener if Fakhar goes through another dip in form.

 

[Chokli]

the collapse has begun

 

[ExpressPacer]

I'm happy to see Faheem bat high up the order because he needs to prove himself with the bat. A decent platform has been set and he has time to adjust himself in. A good 40 odd here would prove that he is an all-rounder.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Form hasn't been an issue it's just his fitness

Which will be important