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Pakistan vs Australia | 5th ODI | Dubai | Mar 31, 2019 | Australia Innings

148 KPH from Shinwari! Brilliant stuff.

PP armchair experts wrote him off but the foreign commentators keep appreciating his bowling.
 
Don’t remember a coach and selector duo making as many blunders as Mickey and Inzamam have over the last year or two.
 
ExpressPacer said:
148 KPH from Shinwari! Brilliant stuff.

PP armchair experts wrote him off but the foreign commentators keep appreciating his bowling.
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Shinwari clearly outperformed every other pacer in the series.
 
Tough to judge fast bowling in such conditions to be honest. The disadvantage that PAK pacers suffered in this series is that they can't bowl at their openers .... had to bowl at Finch & Khwaja:(
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
Fans need to relax, when was the last time, any fast bowling unit dominated in UAE. Dont judge pak bowlers in UAE pitches please.
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We have been done nothing except for minnow-bashing in ODIs in the last two years, and we have been poor in Tests everywhere. I am not sure we can blame the conditions.
 
ExpressPacer said:
Shinwari is leaps and bounds ahead of Junaid.
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The problem with Shinwari is that he is always on the cusp of getting smashed and losing his team the game. You just cannot trust him because he can bottle it at any moment.

Junaid though has the same issue, but he is also a trundler. Nevertheless, no matter who goes to the World Cup, Pakistan is the loser here. These mental midgets are not cut for pressure situations.
 
Watching this team... That too in Dubai is painful.
 
Mamoon said:
The problem with Shinwari is that he is always on the cusp of getting smashed and losing his team the game. You just cannot trust him because he can bottle it at any moment.

Junaid though has the same issue, but he is also a trundler. Nevertheless, no matter who goes to the World Cup, Pakistan is the loser here. These mental midgets are not cut for pressure situations.
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We have to hope that Amir, Hasan, Shaheen and Faheem remain fit whole world cup so that Shinwari stays on the bench.
 
Why is Amir fielding? Can't they use any of the others in the squad as 12th Man?
 
What a drama queen, AmirCapture.jpg

Doesn't even want to field, going off as if dislocated his arm
 
17th over will start and Australia will get 100 up while our team when they bat take 23 overs to get 100 that's the difference aside from the bowling and fielding and field placement been such a horrible series for Pak
 
Mamoon said:
The problem with Shinwari is that he is always on the cusp of getting smashed and losing his team the game. You just cannot trust him because he can bottle it at any moment.

Junaid though has the same issue, but he is also a trundler. Nevertheless, no matter who goes to the World Cup, Pakistan is the loser here. These mental midgets are not cut for pressure situations.
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As much Shinwari is likely to get smashed and lose his team the game, he is much more likely to take wickets in bunches and win his team the game singlehandedly. Singlehandedly. We haven't had wicket-taking bowlers in a very long time and to throw someone like him away would be a foolish mistake.

I really don't think taking Shinwari is going to be a compromise. He's a very capable bowler and if he's having an off day, we have enough pseudo all-rounders in our team to make up for his overs.

UAE is a graveyard for fast bowlers and YET he's performed reasonably well. His importance will be understood when we play in England.
 
Rizwan is keeping with sheen pad or they have made customised WKeeping pads?
 
Mickey and Inzi completely messed it up. Still baffled why they didnt pick a proper spinner like Umer Khan. Umer played under Mickey for KK and outperformed Imad by a margin still didnt get the nod from Mickey? Even if the wanted Imad why Yasir over Umer?

Thankfully because of Mickey and Inzi we will be going to WC without a proper spinner.
 
The reality of PSL talent & performance has been badly exposed, i think
 
Literally no one at the stadium to watch Cricket. What a sad sad day
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Mickey and Inzi completely messed it up. Still baffled why they didnt pick a proper spinner like Umer Khan. Umer played under Mickey for KK and outperformed Imad by a margin still didnt get the nod from Mickey?

Thankfully because of Mickey and Inzi we will be going to WC without a proper spinner.
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I think the management believes we don't need a spinner in English conditions for the world cup. I kind of agree with them.

Mickey Arthur is a smart man and is possibly the best thing to have happened to Pakistan cricket in the last 2 decades. Pakistani fans need to stop being fickle. Shadab Khan and Imad Wasim, along with Malik/Hafeez will be more than useful for the World cup.

Had Uber Khan been selected for this series and done well, taking him to the WC would have become an absolute necessity. He's not good enough of a bat to replace Shadab or Imad but to drop him would have caused uproar. Therefore it's best to try him after the world cup because he's as good as useless in England.
 
ExpressPacer said:
As much Shinwari is likely to get smashed and lose his team the game, he is much more likely to take wickets in bunches and win his team the game singlehandedly. Singlehandedly. We haven't had wicket-taking bowlers in a very long time and to throw someone like him away would be a foolish mistake.

I really don't think taking Shinwari is going to be a compromise. He's a very capable bowler and if he's having an off day, we have enough pseudo all-rounders in our team to make up for his overs.

UAE is a graveyard for fast bowlers and YET he's performed reasonably well. His importance will be understood when we play in England.
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This is what Shinwari can do on his day:

www.espncricinfo.com/series/18649/scorecard/1144162/south-africa-vs-pakistan-2nd-t20i-pak-in-sa-2018-19

Match was in South Africa
 
ExpressPacer said:
I think the management believes we don't need a spinner in English conditions for the world cup. I kind of agree with them.

Mickey Arthur is a smart man and is possibly the best thing to have happened to Pakistan cricket in the last 2 decades. Pakistani fans need to stop being fickle. Shadab Khan and Imad Wasim, along with Malik/Hafeez will be more than useful for the World cup.

Had Uber Khan been selected for this series and done well, taking him to the WC would have become an absolute necessity. He's not good enough of a bat to replace Shadab or Imad but to drop him would have caused uproar. Therefore it's best to try him after the world cup because he's as good as useless in England.
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Even if i agree with you on Imad, Shadab etc playing Yasir for 5 matches was a total waste. What did we gain from it?
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Even if i agree with you on Imad, Shadab etc playing Yasir for 5 matches was a total waste. What did we gain from it?
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I think it was a very smart decision. The management knew he's not going to do well and the team won't have to end up replacing a spinner with one of our permanent fixtures.

Of course this is only a theory. I could be wrong but I've been very close to Pakistan cricket and you would never believe how weirdly things work. Mickey's been successful because he deals with Pakistani problems in a Pakistani way.

When in Rome..
 
ExpressPacer said:
Had Uber Khan been selected for this series and done well, taking him to the WC would have become an absolute necessity.
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Which would have been great for team's cause. Wicket taking spinners in middle overs are a necessity now. We dont have the batting to set or chase 300+ scores. Our strength is our bowling and considering conditions are heavily in favor of batting in England these days a spinner who can spin the ball would be great.
 
Manager101 said:
This is what Shinwari can do on his day:

www.espncricinfo.com/series/18649/scorecard/1144162/south-africa-vs-pakistan-2nd-t20i-pak-in-sa-2018-19

Match was in South Africa
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I have written EXTENSIVELY over the last month over how I don't give 2 flying hoots about T20s, be it leagues or internationals. I don't even understand why such a format is even considered important when picking players for an ODI 50 over world cup.

Short boundaries, batsman friendly rules, massive bats, batsmen taking risks, only 4 overs - how can you expect a bowler to perform regularly? Everyone, from Dale Steyn to Malinga to Akhtar to Starc - EVERY single one of these legends has had their off days in T20's and been destroyed.

Don't talk to me about T20s. Look at his ODI record. He's performed brilliantly there.
 
ExpressPacer said:
I think it was a very smart decision. The management knew he's not going to do well and the team won't have to end up replacing a spinner with one of our permanent fixtures.
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And how is this helping team's cause? So they are more interested in securing the positions of permanent fixtures rather than giving genuine talent a chance and potentially help us in WC.

And i agree with you on how things work in pakistan, i have been close to Pak cricket too. Havent played club cricket like you but have cousins who play club cricket both in Pindi and Karachi and keep hearing things from them which comes true with time.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
And how is this helping team's cause? So they are more interested in securing the positions of permanent fixtures rather than giving genuine talent a chance and potentially help us in WC.
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Pretty much. Don't you think it is awfully convenient that Shoaib Malik gets stomach cramps or whatever happened to him in the middle of the series without any underlying reasons? Don't you think it is rather odd that Faheem Ashraf is rested in the middle of the series? Why was he not rested earlier when 7 of the teams main players were announced to be rested?

These things are only done so certain players can have their positions in the team promised. And trust me, Mickey has very little control over such matters unfortunately. If he did, Akmal would never have worn the Chaand Sitara again.
 
Beautiful delivery from Usman to get rid of Pakistan's nemesis this series - Finch!
 
ExpressPacer said:
Pretty much. Don't you think it is awfully convenient that Shoaib Malik gets stomach cramps or whatever happened to him in the middle of the series without any underlying reasons? Don't you think it is rather odd that Faheem Ashraf is rested in the middle of the series? Why was he not rested earlier when 7 of the teams main players were announced to be rested?

These things are only done so certain players can have their positions in the team promised. And trust me, Mickey has very little control over such matters unfortunately. If he did, Akmal would never have worn the Chaand Sitara again.
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While i agree with you I will add that Mickey himself is responsible making it sure that position of some of the seniors remain secure. His treatment to Abid as a case is very poor. 1st he was against his selection in SA which proved to be a deciding factor in Abid not going to SA and now in this series Abid carried drinks for the 1st 3 matches while Inzi selected him to try him out.
 
The way Finch struggles with bowl coming in, Hassan Ali would have made life really difficult for him with his inswing in this series
 
I know this may sound wrong to some people but I find it very annoying when speakers of Pashto start talking in Pashto with fellow Pukhtun's in gatherings where other people may not understand.

This is exactly what Rizwan keeps doing and it's annoying to see. I could be wrong but I think there needs to be more professionalism and everyone should speak in a language that the entire team understands. Haven't seen Younis or Afridi do this in the past.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what do you think?
 
It will be shinwari and amir headed for the world cup, but if any sense prevails they should decide off the donestic one day tournament for the final spot and not give Amir an automatic selection
 
Asutralia has issues selecting their wc 15 men squad especially in batting.

Finch
Warner
Smith
Khawaja
Maxwell
Turner

are a must

7th batsman choice is between Marsh and Handscumb.
 
ExpressPacer said:
I know this may sound wrong to some people but I find it very annoying when speakers of Pashto start talking in Pashto with fellow Pukhtun's in gatherings where other people may not understand.

This is exactly what Rizwan keeps doing and it's annoying to see. I could be wrong but I think there needs to be more professionalism and everyone should speak in a language that the entire team understands. Haven't seen Younis or Afridi do this in the past.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what do you think?
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Khawaja understands urdu so Rizwan is communicating in a language Khawaja doesn't understand. What's the problem?
 
mak36 said:
Khawaja understands urdu so Rizwan is communicating in a language Khawaja doesn't understand. What's the problem?
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I just find it annoying and he's done it throughout the series, even when Khwaja wasn't batting.
 
Mamoon said:
Along with the WT20, It is the highest level of T20 cricket in the game. There is nothing trash about it.
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All league tornaments are trash including PSL. Got bored of IPL after first edition, never watched any IPL game since.
PSL only watched some games to check out new Pak talent.
 
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Decent team from Ramiz. Would replace Junaid with Shinwari and that's pretty much my team.
 
Ramiz dropping Malik from the world cup squad. Smart move. However, he's missing Shinwari. Would have him in instead of Junaid
 
Selecting Malik in England will be criminal.

He averages 13.6 there.
 
If shinwari gets picked he will for sure score a century mark my words.
 
I'd rather go with 14 men than take garbage Shinwari....



Are people forgetting just last match he dismissed Maxwell off a no-ball who went onto murder us. Goldfish memories.
 
Syed1 said:
I'd rather go with 14 men than take garbage Shinwari....



Are people forgetting just last match he dismissed Maxwell off a no-ball who went onto murder us. Goldfish memories.
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Still better than the rest of trash at display in this series
 
My 15

Abid Ali
Fakhar
Babar
Sarfraz WK C
Hafeez
Asif Ali
Faheem
Shadab
Wahab
Hassan Ali
Shaheen

Rizwan WK
Imam
Shinwari
Umer Khan/Zafar Gohar
 
With Inzi you never know both Abbas and Yasir may be in our World Cup squad.
 
Something said:
Still better than the rest of trash at display in this series
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And atleast bowled a wicket taking bowl unlke others. I was one of his big critic but he has bowled well in all matches in this series and atleast one match in SA series.
We need Musa in place of Amir as well
 
HGhazanfar said:
My 15

Abid Ali
Fakhar
Babar
Sarfraz WK C
Hafeez
Asif Ali
Faheem
Shadab
Wahab
Hassan Ali
Shaheen

Rizwan WK
Imam
Shinwari
Umer Khan/Zafar Gohar
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Good team except for Musa in place of Wahab (and for sure they will pick neither and it will be Amir)
 
Umar Akmal will never learn. No point to invest on such a player. He is irresponsible player and bound to fail in pressure situation.
 
My World Cup Squad::::

Abid Ali
Fakhar
Babar
Sarfraz WK C
Hafeez
Asif Ali/Saud Shakil
Amir
Shadab
Haris Rauf
Hassan Ali
Shaheen

Rizwan WK
Imam
Faheem
Umer Khan/Zafar Gohar
 
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