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Pakistanis who have visited India and Indians who have visited Pakistan - How was your experience?
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My sister went to India for a school conference. She is vegetarian and liked the fact that vegetarian food was widely available, which can be a bit of a problem in desi restaurants in Pakistan. You are restricted to daal or tarkari. She liked the British and Mughal architecture (she was in Delhi). From her experience the people were nice to her and the rest of the girls in her group.
Personally I would like to go and see the Taj Mahal or the Teju Mahala as it might be called soon
Personally I would like to go and see the Taj Mahal or the Teju Mahala as it might be called soon
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I would love to visit Pakistan one day, but I don't think they will let me in, with me being Indian and all with the current political climate ? Sorry didnt mean to derail the thread...
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Also I may add both my mum's and dad's side of the family are from India (Lucknow and Delhi respectively).... I'd like to go and find out where they used to live before partition, but that might remain a pipe dream. Last I heard even with Canadian passport I may face problems since my original nationality is Pakistani.
My sister went to India for a school conference. She is vegetarian and liked the fact that vegetarian food was widely available, which can be a bit of a problem in desi restaurants in Pakistan. You are restricted to daal or tarkari. She liked the British and Mughal architecture (she was in Delhi). From her experience the people were nice to her and the rest of the girls in her group.
Personally I would like to go and see the Taj Mahal or the Teju Mahala as it might be called soon
That's good to hear.
Is getting Pakistani visa easy or tough? I really want to visit Pakistan , especially to see my ancestral home, where my great grandfather and his family used to live.
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That's good to hear.
Is getting Pakistani visa easy or tough? I really want to visit Pakistan , especially to see my ancestral home, where my great grandfather and his family used to live.
What part of Pakistan is your ancestral home in?
I think getting a visa is a breeze if it is a school trip or a conference or anything related to educational/cultural exchange. However, just for tourism it is hard and has plenty of restrictions.
It is in a village in Punjab. I can't recall the name of the village right now, i will have to ask my grand father.
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I find that strange. I suppose there would be some interest in going, but it's not going to be that different from Pakistan, I don't even go there much. It would be like jumping through hoops to go to a place which isn't all that to begin with.
India is a paradox, their films and sports shows are much better made and more professional than Pakistan's, but the place itself always looks poorer and dirtier in real life.
The country itself was incredibly dirty and filthy! It reads "no dogs allowed" but seems fine for people to be doing their private things there
White people were treated like kings and queens with people staring at them as if they were superhuman or something. The post colonial inferiority complex in the entire subcontinent is still for all to see. The people generally were polite and welcoming, I had no problems at all in that regard. Many invitations for dinner came after locals realised that I was of Pakistani ethnicity
Was incredibly over populated which is to be expected, that didn't help the somewhat short temper of anyone who is used to western standards of travelling. The veggie dishes were really tasty, don't know why we can't get that quality in the west. Pakistan made for the most interesting discussions even today with many having their roots from our country. I did not feel that Indian's at all hated Pakistan or it's people, there was some form of regret and intrigue over what it would be like. The ladies were pretty and youngsters much more education oriented then our are. There medical care also seems much better then ours as well. These are two things we can learn from them. My Urdu seemed to very much impressed them, taught them many new words.
White people were treated like kings and queens with people staring at them as if they were superhuman or something. The post colonial inferiority complex in the entire subcontinent is still for all to see. The people generally were polite and welcoming, I had no problems at all in that regard. Many invitations for dinner came after locals realised that I was of Pakistani ethnicity Was incredibly over populated which is to be expected, that didn't help the somewhat short temper of anyone who is used to western standards of travelling. The veggie dishes were really tasty, don't know why we can't get that quality in the west. Pakistan made for the most interesting discussions even today with many having their roots from our country. I did not feel that Indian's at all hated Pakistan or it's people, there was some form of regret and intrigue over what it would be like. The ladies were pretty and youngsters much more education oriented then our are. There medical care also seems much better then ours as well. These are two things we can learn from them. My Urdu seemed to very much impressed them, taught them many new words.
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Am assuming this is from your multiple visits to India ?
Anyway , it doesnt matter if people are poor , most people will tell you the experience is rich .
India is not different from Pakistan , its Pakistan and a lot more .
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I love to go to Ind, i want to see for myself their education institutions as the kids who came to my school in the UK, are always hard working and well mannered.
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India is one of my dream destination to visit but unfortunately that might not be possible. Mumbai and Kolkata are two cities I really want to visit in my life.
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Is it fair to say that more Pakistanis visit India than the other way around?
For instance, I'm surprised that there are so many on this forum itself!
For instance, I'm surprised that there are so many on this forum itself!
No, it's not necessarily true at all. It seems that way coz most people on this forum are Pakistanis one way or another. Just alone leaving tourists aside thousands of Sikh's visit Pak every year to see their religious sites.
Because a lot less Indians have an ancestral connection with Pakistan than the other way around.
Don't see any reason why many people from Southern India, Mahrashtra, Gujarat would be too fascinated to visit Pakistan and also why would any Pakistani want to visit these places except a few.
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British documentaries variously feature travel through India, right now there is a a BBC series called Great Indian Railway Journeys which is spread over four episodes so covers India quite comprehensively. When you see these over a period of time you do get a good idea of what India looks like even if it's not the same as a personal visit obviously.
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Literally the whole of Delhi(huge area) has connection to Punjab Pakistan, but having no relatives is the difference, wherr should w go and stay,most were villagers anyway.
MY last name is a village in Pakistan,lol yes as weird as that, I Google it to see what's new apparently a middle school but don't think I'll ever be able to visit it.
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My mom's been to Karachi in late 80s, was much easier to travel then between countries, and she found it similar, but media has played a bitter role in a way, people won't make those trips anymore.
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For Sikhs it's the opposite they probably travel a lot to Pak,coz of holy sites, similarly people probably come to visit Ajmer and Agra from Pakistan.
Guess it's region and religion which comes into picture as well.
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No, it's not a breeze. My friend's mother, an Indian citizen, was invited as a visiting scholar at LUMS but was denied a visa.
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Been to India a couple of times - Delhi, Mumbai mainly - to visit friends. Have had 2 Indian friends visit Karachi as well. Won't speak for my Indian friends, but I had a great time in India. All this negativity you find on the internet, on forums or on media sites is frankly a big load of bull.
People in India are nice and hospitable, food is great, culture is great, everyone was warm and welcoming to me. This was a few years ago, but I doubt it is any different now. Feels very much like being in Pakistan, except even more crowded if that is imaginable to Pakistanis.
People in India are nice and hospitable, food is great, culture is great, everyone was warm and welcoming to me. This was a few years ago, but I doubt it is any different now. Feels very much like being in Pakistan, except even more crowded if that is imaginable to Pakistanis.
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Had a couple pf Kashmiri friends who went a couple of time to Pakistan to meet relatives, said that they were treated as long lost brothers by Pakistanis 
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Went to Bangalore a few years ago and found the town like Lahore (parts of it were cantonment)
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In India poverty is much more in your face from what I hear
I was supposed to go for a rowing competition to Madras in 2009-10 but the visas came much much after the event
I was supposed to go for a rowing competition to Madras in 2009-10 but the visas came much much after the event
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In India poverty is much more in your face from what I hear
I was supposed to go for a rowing competition to Madras in 2009-10 but the visas came much much after the event
It's in your face in Pakistan as well, but I am often surprised that it looks worse in India considering their reputation as a huge economy. You would expect it to be a lot better at street level, but it seems the prosperity is missing out the masses. The infrastructure and general shoddiness of the architecture is still third world unfortunately.
A cousin of mine visited Karachi for a business deal 5 years ago. He did not find the city much different from Mumbai but came back a fan of the place, especially the people and the food items. His hosts took him to the Karachi food markets and for the duration of his trip his diet consisted purely of lamb legs #jealous
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I studied in Bangalore for 2 months in 2008. I visited Mysore, Kochi, Delhi, Agra and Mumbai as well. Had a magnificent time in all places, probably least in Mumbai but it had its own charms.
People were generally nice especially in the south. Mumbai wasn’t friendly.
People were generally nice especially in the south. Mumbai wasn’t friendly.
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I have seen some of those and I would say its pretty close to what you can expect . I can imagine Pak nationals having relatively lesser interest , cos there is a bit of sameness especially if you travel to North of India , but that said the west/south/east are completely different , so for genuine traveller cant think of one country which can offer so may different things . As for the poverty etc , it rarely matters if you want to explore a place ..I have travelled quite a bit of Europe/America , though they are all developed may be excluding New York cant think of may places I have listed down to visit again and on the contrary the poor countries like Vietnam , Cambodia , Indonesia etc are on my re visit list
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Am surprised you dint like Mumbai , not my kind of city either though I lived there for 8+ years , but outsiders like Mumbai in general .
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You probably hung out near Shivaji Nagar and the surrounds, if I had to guess.
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You are probably right, north India is too much like Pakistan, south India might be a better experience from the view of variety. Same could probably be said as to why Karachi is very different to Lahore, which is again different to Peshawar. All the same country ostensibly, but culturally quite different.
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The economy grew , but the Govt could not keep pace with the growth . Most of our cities exploded in last 15-20 years and the Infra was always 10 years behind .
Mumbai for example , these slums have an average income of 20k+ which is much higher than Indias percapita income and decent enough money to rent a house and survive with basic necessities , but its difficult to rent a place for 20K in Mumbai . Basically if you travel to Tier 2 cities , they will be cleaner with better infra though the money may not be great , but the bigger cities most people may be earning well but very little resources to share .
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Lot of trees with white paint on them (as is the case in Military areas)
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The next time you come over to Bangalore, do let me/us know. I'm sure we can have a dinner party out somewhere - outside the military areas!
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Inshallah!
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Surely "in real life" means that one has to have gone there to experience it in real life? Or is that not quite what you meant, and you meant to say outside the confines of professionally produced movies, tv and sporting events?
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Yes, maybe I should have worded that 'in reality' rather than in real life. What I meant of course is that we in the west think of booming economies as being reflected in general living standards, that doesn't seem to be the case with India, at least not any different to Pakistan at the moment.
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Depends on where you look / what you see. I'm sure every Indian posting on this forum has a classy living standard leaching off the said booming economy. Unfortunately, few film directors choose to put us in their documentaries.
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Depends on where you look / what you see. I'm sure every Indian posting on this forum has a classy living standard leaching off the said booming economy. Unfortunately, few film directors choose to put us in their documentaries.
You could say the same about Pakistan though. I am talking about living standards across the board, not just for those who live in posh areas. So that would mean good healthcare for all, clean sidewalks, good roads, cities and small towns with well organised infrastructure and transport, driving etiquette, etc. I could add more to the list but you probably get the picture.
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Yes you can. In a similar fashion, I'm sure every Pakistani on this forum belongs to the upper middle class strata of Pakistani society. Would you see them featured in a BBC documentary spanning the Karakoram mountain range? You will not.
This exists in neither India or Pakistan, as of today.
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I dont think there is any such tourit visas for people of Pakistani origin/nationality. If im not wrong, you guys need to apply for Visitors Visas which basically mean visiting your friends/relatives in India. Even to get this type of visas, you’d need someone from India to sponsor you and take all the responsibility for you (including your timely departure). Unless if you have someone in India who could go through all the hassles for you, your visit to India will indeed be a pipe dream.
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You’re basically comparing India with first world countries. Ofc the quality of life in India will be much lower due to sheer number of people sharing the facilities. It will take easily half a century for India to eradicate poverty completely or to a point where it no longer is a big concern. But until then, India will be mixture of riche and poor (majority).
As far as visiting India, you are of the opinion that India is nasty and smelly and what not, which may be true for cities and slums, however there is also lot more to experience in India. People from west visits India mostly to experience the wildlife, beach (cheaper option compared to Hawaii/Florida), Yoga, meditation, medical tourism etc. If you’re hoping to visit cities and get same facilities as you get in London or Toronto, then you might be better of switching your venues. Oh and if you’re of Pakistani origin then perhaps you’re indeed better of switiching your venues, cause getting visas of India will be borderline impossible.
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I wanna visit Pakistan for it's natural beauty (isloo and swat valley) and main thing want to be part of 'The greatest Tape Ball tournament on the planet'. Want to face the deadliest bowlers who will swing the tape ball on short distance with serious pace. I consider myself as an allrounder so will love to do some 'dunda ukhad' bowling as well. 
India is great ..problem is damn popultation. We were 33 crores in 1947 and now 130 plus crore in 2018...population increased more than 4 times.....
I would love to explore my remaining punjab in pakistan.....that's more than enough for me to visit pakistan.....
I would love to explore my remaining punjab in pakistan.....that's more than enough for me to visit pakistan.....
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My comment was for an Indian trying to obtain a Pakistani visa, but in your haste to chest thump you displayed your lack of comprehension skills, yet again.
In any case, I'd rather read what the official website says than some keyboard warrior. This is what the Indian website says. All types of visas can be issued except for tourist. Exactly what I said for the Pakistani side. Next time take a deep breath and drink some water before deciding to chest thump.
https://www.india.org.pk/pages.php?id=114
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This would be a good image for an animated GIF.
Surprised to hear that you didn't find Bombay friendly. That sux. How long were you there, and what part if I may ask?
Indian govt does that all over India.
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Near CST. Wasn’t that bad but obviously not as friendly as other places which you kinda expect!
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Perhaps was quiet as it was monsoon season.
The other places I went to were amazing!
Bombay isn't anywhere near its best in the rainy season. But that's unfortunate that you didn't find it friendly.
Maybe you'll go there again and someday and have a better experience.
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I was comparing to Pakistan really, that would be more accurate. More of a contrast with first world countries rather than a comparison.
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Kabhi kolkata aao...Hame bhi mauka do mehmaan nawazi ka.
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I wanna visit Pakistan for it's natural beauty (isloo and swat valley) and main thing want to be part of 'The greatest Tape Ball tournament on the planet'. Want to face the deadliest bowlers who will swing the tape ball on short distance with serious pace. I consider myself as an allrounder so will love to do some 'dunda ukhad' bowling as well.
One legend who made his way from tape ball cricket to the Pakistan team is Sohail Tanvir. LOL. Apparently he was a big six hitter in tape ball.
Anyways, on topic...I've never been but would love to. One of my good childhood friends went to Manipal and I was supposed to visit but then 2008 happened. Places I really want to see are Hyderabad, Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkata, and Goa.
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I would like to go too. The majority of my friends are Indian gujrati or Kuchi's but Id love to visit the historical sites. Delhi, Agra etc..I did get invited to Baroda but just couldnt make it..Id love to check out Goa as my friend has a flat there...
[MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION] oye choatay maybe you need to invite me over and we can go and find [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] lol..
[MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION] oye choatay maybe you need to invite me over and we can go and find [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] lol..
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You are invited too. Dont be salty. Will take you to a IPL match as well at the Eden.
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Go to Delhi if you want to choke to death and be cussed at by entitled brats day and night.
Bangalore is where the action's at - if you ever land here, do give me a ping.
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Action? You mean traffic jams?
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Pakistanis should visit North East Meghalaya, Sikkim would be different from what they are used to.
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] should visit Manipur and check out Mary Kom's place ,many boxing medals for us come from there.
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] should visit Manipur and check out Mary Kom's place ,many boxing medals for us come from there.
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Bangalore has good churches and pubs everything else is pretty much boring, even the night life isn't as exciting as Delhi or Panji or Mumbai.
who cares about night life when there is so much history to be seen in India.
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Been to Chennai and Bangalore, when I went for my Indian buddy's wedding. Getting a visa was an absolute pain, despite being in Canada.
Had an absolute blast though. I loved Chennai more than Bangalore; totally different culture considering that my family is from Lucknow originally and then settled in Karachi. People were super friendly, food was amazing (those Dosas!), infrastructure was actually not bad (I even took local transport safely which was interesting being from Karachi) and the culture/architecture was super interesting to experience. Could get around through English and it seemed like people took education super seriously. The weather though, was insanity thy name; I also found the food surprisingly pricey compared to Pakistan.
Bangalore had good weather, nice malls/pubs, but the roads were tiny and incredibly clogged compared what I was used to in Pakistan. It seemed a bit artificial, like a bubble almost as a place. Not too much to see that's really unique.
I'd love to go back and experience Mumbai in particular which I've heard is like a sister city of Karachi.
Had an absolute blast though. I loved Chennai more than Bangalore; totally different culture considering that my family is from Lucknow originally and then settled in Karachi. People were super friendly, food was amazing (those Dosas!), infrastructure was actually not bad (I even took local transport safely which was interesting being from Karachi) and the culture/architecture was super interesting to experience. Could get around through English and it seemed like people took education super seriously. The weather though, was insanity thy name; I also found the food surprisingly pricey compared to Pakistan.
Bangalore had good weather, nice malls/pubs, but the roads were tiny and incredibly clogged compared what I was used to in Pakistan. It seemed a bit artificial, like a bubble almost as a place. Not too much to see that's really unique.
I'd love to go back and experience Mumbai in particular which I've heard is like a sister city of Karachi.
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lol dont worry I'll behave lol..
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If I had to go to India I'd wanna go to Agra and Delhi and see the homes and lands of my ancestors... And obv theres some family there remaining but only older generation is in touch with them on Eid etc so soon the connections will break... They arent doing that well there either unfortunately whereas before partition the extended family had a thriving business.
Asides from that aspect Id wanna visit Kerala and Tamil Nadu as a tourist. Im sure there will be lot of khwaari and inconveniences which comes with third world countries but to me these places seem like a different world and certainly sth I will never be exposed to otherwise. Definitely interesting/fascinating. People say Pak and India are alike and while that might be true for north India, Punjab side - these South Indian places are pretty much different countries
Asides from that aspect Id wanna visit Kerala and Tamil Nadu as a tourist. Im sure there will be lot of khwaari and inconveniences which comes with third world countries but to me these places seem like a different world and certainly sth I will never be exposed to otherwise. Definitely interesting/fascinating. People say Pak and India are alike and while that might be true for north India, Punjab side - these South Indian places are pretty much different countries
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not many foreigners (if any) go to India to sample the night life....
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Yeah but not having one is a big issue, ask the ones traveling to Goa where after the sun bath they go out at night 11 .
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Have any of your family visited India after partition?
It was quite easy to do so until 1965.
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Went to visit the Taj Mahal and visit some relatives in Delhi, Calcutta but was too young to remember much. Just remember one incident where my father and other people on the bus beat up some guy who tried to steal from us. Basically it was the same as my memories of when I visited Karachi before at the time, very dirty. Murree was a pleasant surprise though.
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yes.. i think till 80s even it was common
i remember the relatives visiting us in even in 2000s...
but since you know the first generation has mostly passed away people arent connected in same way
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My uncle visited India for a business trip in the 2000s, he stayed at some rich Sikh guys huge mansion around Delhi. He said they were friendly but asked some unusual questions about Islam, probably out of curiosity.
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Indians for some reason really are very ignorant about Muslims even at basic level information for some reason despite their being so many Muslims in India
I still remember that in WC 2011 I was watching the semi final with a bunch of Indians. And at one point in the match the camera panned to a the and focused on 3 Indian Muslims (all had beard and one even had cap) wearing an Indian shirt and cheering on India.
So one of the Indians in the group (from Mumbai) exclaims 'why the hell are they supporting India' I was shocked to see this from a guy from such a metropolitan city like Mumbai. The other Indian next to him (who had grown up in Qatar and then come to US for college) was like 'dude you do know we have more Muslims than even Pakistan!'
However the first guy could still not get his head round the fact that Muslims were backing India in a semi final....
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Lol it's always funny when on youtube videos Indian fans cuss out Muslims yet they'll cheer on Zaheer Khan and Irfan Pathan
. Not all of them are like that but way too many are.
cricketjoshila
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Kabhi tum bhi aao haveli pe.
cricketjoshila
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Dobara mauka zaroor dena mehmaan nawazi ka.
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Bhai, PP sai time milega kya jo mehmaan nawazi karo ge?, aur phir doctor on call ka masla bhi to hai. Jo mehmaan nawaazi yahaan dekhne ko mil rahi hai, behter hai ke nahi
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