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At this moment, I would honestly take Waseem JR over Rauf at least
But is Naseem that much of a sure selection?
Shaheen - open the bowling and also bowl in the middle overs
Amir or Naseem - open the bowling and bowl at the death
Ihsanullah - 1st change and bowl in the middle overs and at the death
Could Imad be our opening bowler on Indian wickets?
As a bowler, I see Imad as a part-time option in ODIs. He's better suited to bowling in T20Is because he's economical. He's more of a specialist lower middle order batsman.
In ODIs, we need Nawaz and either Usama Mir/ Shadab Khan. Currently, I prefer Usama Mir because he's a better spinner but also because I don't think Shadab adds much to the batting.
Would I open the bowling with a spinner? Maybe after 5 overs if there's little assistance for the pacers and the wicket is like the Sharjah surface that we saw in the first two matches during that 3 match series against Afghanistan.
Like many have said, Shaheen is the only automatic option right now. Maybe Ihsanullah due to the surprise factor about him right now.
Naseem is still young and raw in LOIs, Rauf & Wasim Jnr are inconsistent, Hasnain hasn't unfortunately improved (maybe him carrying bags every series doesn't help actually hmm), Dahani could be a option but is a one trick pony, Amad Butt is a good option but hasn't played any games for Pakistan, Faheem Ashraf ain't it chief and then you left with the likes of Aamir Yamin, Khurram Shehzad, Mir Hamza and various other pacers.
The problem is, the reliance on Shaheen & the workload on him will be too great for the other pacers to shoulder. Naseem is the only other new ball bowler, Haris Rauf is one 1st change bowler likewise Ihsanullah, Wasim Jnr is more death bowler, Mir Hamza is opening bowler but his lack of pace makes him better suited to red ball cricket whereas Aamir Yamin is more middle over bowler.
The options are plenty'ish but not good enough to win a tournament or go to finals/semi-finals.
Shaheen
Amir
Naseem
Wasim
Rauf
Ehsanullah
I will start with
Shaheen
Amir
Ehsanullah
Shadab
Imad
Current 2023 version 125 kph of Amir over Naseem. Sorry to say but you don't have strong enough case on merit and statistics just pure nostalgia.
Give me better all round attack than what i put in Above pak eleven ? Many teams have individually better bowlers but as overall bowling side none will have such versatility and utility.
Quite a few teams will have better versatility & utility then Pakistan, From Aussies Hazlewood, Starc & Cummins to England with Archer, Wood & potentially Curran/Topley. Saffers with Rabada, Nortje & Ngidi, Kiwis with Boult, Southee & Ferguson are all better round bowlers then Pakistan.
Besides Shaheen, we can't match up Pakistan pacers with these ones. There more well rounded and experience.
I am asking as full bowling line up , including spinners, and our all three spin options may not be best as solo slow bowlers but as package and with their batting ability give real depth to our batting. And they are not much behind as bowler from specialist spinners either. My purposed attack will have Left arm 140 kph plus strike bowler , a right hand new ball swinger in Naseem, who can crank it upto 145 kph, plus 150 kph Ihsan Ullah with his height and nasty bounce, Quality leg spinner in Shadab who can be handful with slightest help from surface, Quality and controlled left arm spin of Nawaz plus more than handy off spin of Agha Salman. What else you want. they by no means are ATG but boy they won't let many teams score 300 plus batting first or second ,you can mark my post .
Marking it then.
Good job ,and now please also give any better and realistic alternative Pak have?
As a bowler, I see Imad as a part-time option in ODIs. He's better suited to bowling in T20Is because he's economical. He's more of a specialist lower middle order batsman.
In ODIs, we need Nawaz and either Usama Mir/ Shadab Khan. Currently, I prefer Usama Mir because he's a better spinner but also because I don't think Shadab adds much to the batting.
Would I open the bowling with a spinner? Maybe after 5 overs if there's little assistance for the pacers and the wicket is like the Sharjah surface that we saw in the first two matches during that 3 match series against Afghanistan.
Shaheen, Naseem, Rauf, Waseem Jr, Ihsanullah, Shahnawaz Dahni, Faheem Ashraf
Shaheen: Only bowler that walks into the team
Naseem: Inexperience, hasnt been good in t20. A fast bowler that bowls pace isn't required to be economical, but to take wickets.
Waseem Jr: The guy is bowling well in one days. He isnt made for t20, but very good for one day cricket, as he can take wicekts in the middle over.
Rauf: Inexperience, does nothing in one day
Fakhar
Harris ( WK )
Babaar
Saud Shakeel
Harris Sohail
Nawaz
Imad
Shadab
Shaheen
Aamir
Rauff
This is the XI pakistan should play. Lot of spin options as well as solid depth in Batting.
Amir on his last legs is still better than Naseem, Waseem & Rauf.With a 6 man bowling attack i think Imad is a neccessity to prevent the tail getting too long. I'd take out Nawaz because i like the idea of two leg spinners in India while Imad keeps the economy rate in check.
Amir is a pipe dream. He is a finished cricketer. His last performance in international cricket was a long time ago. It's going to be either Naseem or Rauf, take your pick.
Amir on his last legs is still better than Naseem, Waseem & Rauf.
Amir on his last legs is still better than Naseem, Waseem & Rauf.
He is well below Naseem and Rauf but on par with Waseem.
Out of interest, will reverse swing play a role in the World Cup in India? If so, who is the best proponent of that amongst our fast bowlers?
It is very likely that what you have said here will happen.I suspect our starting XI will have...
Shaheen
Haris
Naseem
Shadab
Fifth 10 overs shared between Nawaz, Salman and maybe an over or two from Haris Sohail. Potentially Ihsanullah could come in for Haris or Naseem.
Fifth ten overs will be a weakness so we will need to decide whether to put someone like Usama Mir in which would weaken the batting
Out of interest, will reverse swing play a role in the World Cup in India? If so, who is the best proponent of that amongst our fast bowlers?
Amir on his last legs is still better than Naseem, Waseem & Rauf.
Very little I think.
If there is any reverse swing, then Shaheen, Amir & Ihsanullah should take advantage.
Is Naseem Shah's place in the World Cup bowling attack under threat? if so, by whom?
Is Naseem Shah's place in the World Cup bowling attack under threat? if so, by whom?
By Mohammad Amir
He’s coming back I recon
Where did Saud Shakeel come from. This team has 4 left arm spinners. Better to play Rizwan instead of Saud Shakeel, both are essentially the same. No need for Imad Wasim, rather play ifti chacha for off spin or Agha Salman
My 5 pacers for a squad of 15:
Shaheen
Ihsanullah
Rauf
M Waseem
Naseem ( very reluctant to pick him but it seems like M Amir has been written off by team think tank)
Records can be deceiving.Naseem's ODI record is better than all of those pacers. Unless you like to mix up formats you have no reason to leave him out.