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Pakistan's struggles with the number 3 batting position in T20Is

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So what should be done? What is the solution?

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Because your best number 3 in the country would rather inflate his stats as an opener
 
Considering Babar and Rizwan are certain starters in the line up, Babar should drop down to 3 with a aggressor like Fakhar opening instead.
 
Not just number 3 the top 6 all have dreadful stats and are just not good enough. Time to admit Pakistan are on par with Bangladesh of the early 2000s level in terms of quality. Dreadful upcoming talent
 
We dont need a good no.3 batsman because our openers are high performing openers who are very consistent.

Fakhar Zaman plays at no.3.

A no.3 is important for those teams that do not have good openers where usually one opener gets out. We have seen our openers bat so well that they last more than the power play
 
We dont need a good no.3 batsman because our openers are high performing openers who are very consistent.

Fakhar Zaman plays at no.3.

A no.3 is important for those teams that do not have good openers where usually one opener gets out. We have seen our openers bat so well that they last more than the power play

Our high performing openers were watching most of the game in the dug out during the World Cup
 
Why should babar play at no.3 when he is doing great as opener? By playing at no.3 Babar will become limited and wont get the time to play the whole game.

If even after this afghan series people cant see we need babar and rizwan than really you guys are just blind critics
 
You’ve got to hand it to people who say

“We don’t need a good number 3”
 
The focus is on 50 over cricket this year and we've got a well settled No.3 there. The king.
 
I'd have liked to see Saim open with Rizwan so we can have a l/r combination but Saim clearly isn't ready. Fakhar is also prone to getting stuck at the crease.

The reality is that we are a borderline associate nation without Babar and Rizwan.

We are in no position not to ask our best two batsmen to face the most balls.

The number 3 position is the not the biggest problem we have right now.
 
I'd have liked to see Saim open with Rizwan so we can have a l/r combination but Saim clearly isn't ready. Fakhar is also prone to getting stuck at the crease.

The reality is that we are a borderline associate nation without Babar and Rizwan.

We are in no position not to ask our best two batsmen to face the most balls.

The number 3 position is the not the biggest problem we have right now.

Acha what happened in the World Cup when Babar and Rizwan watched most of the tournament from the dressing room?
 
Why should babar play at no.3 when he is doing great as opener? By playing at no.3 Babar will become limited and wont get the time to play the whole game.

If even after this afghan series people cant see we need babar and rizwan than really you guys are just blind critics
Because he is the captain and he should fix what is the issue in team . He won’t lose anything by batting at 3 . Fakhar and rizwan can open
 
Why should babar play at no.3 when he is doing great as opener? By playing at no.3 Babar will become limited and wont get the time to play the whole game.

If even after this afghan series people cant see we need babar and rizwan than really you guys are just blind critics

Because the captain should do what's right for the team and not for himself ?
 
Because the captain should do what's right for the team and not for himself ?

he is doing whats right for the team by batting as opener. If the captain bats at 3 and becomes more slower and not be able to perform than who will get blamed? the captain offocurse.

So why not bat as opener.

Anyways, 3 openers were tried and they all failed against Afghanistan. Haris has some exprience now, you can argue saim ayib is new but fakhar has done no wonders in the past as t20 opener.. Babar and Rizwan are here to stay as openers.
 
Acha what happened in the World Cup when Babar and Rizwan watched most of the tournament from the dressing room?

They had a poor start and had started performing as the tournament progressed. I recall Rizwan winning MoM in the semi-final and I'm certain one of the 2 probably has the most runs for Pak in the tournament. We have set such high expectations from them that even if they have an average tournament it seems like they're not performing
 
Because the captain should do what's right for the team and not for himself ?

Hes doing right for the team The best batters in short formats open where they face the most balls and win games
Thats what hes doing

You dont break a well settled performing opening partnership you find another player that can bat at 3
 
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You’ve got to hand it to people who say

“We don’t need a good number 3”

Yikes, one of the worst comments I've ever heard and there's been some crackers on this board.
 
We dont need a good no.3 batsman because our openers are high performing openers who are very consistent.

Not sure what’s a more ridiculous comment. This or Aamir Sohail saying strike rate doesn’t matter in T20 :)))
 
no babar and rizwan and we lost a series to afg

You are not supporting Pakistan so why do you care? We lost the home series on much easier batting wickets against England with your Babar and Rizwan whilst Jos Butler rested and watched Phil Salt pump our bowlers
 
You are not supporting Pakistan so why do you care? We lost the home series on much easier batting wickets against England with your Babar and Rizwan whilst Jos Butler rested and watched Phil Salt pump our bowlers

so afg are equal to england ?
 
Fakhar has been our best at no 3 but with invariable success .

The problem is that those being told to bat at number 3 , are in fact openers.

Fakhar is a prime example . With Rizwan and babar taking up a lot of balls on a lot of occasions Fakhar is coming in outside the power play which does not suit his style of play. The same can be said of Haris as well.

What we need is a shake up in the line up , and give someone the freedom like Fakhar to play his natural game with the shield of knowing we have a babar or Rizwan at number 3.

Fakhar is more than capable of playing @25/140 SR and the day he scores big he will win you the game .

We have the likes of Haris as well. The kind of game him and Fakhar play will not yield the consistency of a babar but the impact will be much more .
 
Umar Akmal has one of the best averages at number 3 as an opener he can go after the fast bowling not many other options.

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Fakhar has been our best at no 3 but with invariable success .

The problem is that those being told to bat at number 3 , are in fact openers.

Fakhar is a prime example . With Rizwan and babar taking up a lot of balls on a lot of occasions Fakhar is coming in outside the power play which does not suit his style of play. The same can be said of Haris as well.

What we need is a shake up in the line up , and give someone the freedom like Fakhar to play his natural game with the shield of knowing we have a babar or Rizwan at number 3.

Fakhar is more than capable of playing @25/140 SR and the day he scores big he will win you the game .

We have the likes of Haris as well. The kind of game him and Fakhar play will not yield the consistency of a babar but the impact will be much more .

Fakhar averages 21 he is too inconsistent as an experienced batsman you expect better from him apart from the innings vs Australia in the semi final in 2021 he’s been failing mostly.

However in T20s you can have inconsistent batsmen but some improvement is required from Fakhar.
 
Positions 3, 4, 5 and 6 are up for grabs. BabRiz opening pair isn't going anywhere especially after playing with an SR of 140+ in PSL. Abdullah ain't T20 material, Saim and Haris aren't consistent (even in domestics), Tayyab has Asad Shafiq syndrome and Azam is unfit. Will still continue with Saim, Haris and Tayyab though.
 
I think Babar should bat at #3.

Openers should be two aggressive batters. I would say Fakhar and Haris should open.
 
The Babar at number 3 in T20I cricket debate will become more heated based upon this stat.

No let’s try Fakhar, Shan, Saim, Harris, Iftikhar, Tayyab, Khushdil, Nawaz Sharif, Choudhary Pervez Elahi in this position

But Babar should be our opener. Averages matter as an opener
 
No let’s try Fakhar, Shan, Saim, Harris, Iftikhar, Tayyab, Khushdil, Nawaz Sharif, Choudhary Pervez Elahi in this position

But Babar should be our opener. Averages matter as an opener

Babar isnt going anywhere You dont uncover one hole to replace it with another

The top 2 works and works well Thats not gonna be broken to fix the number 3 position
 
Babar isnt going anywhere You dont uncover one hole to replace it with another

The top 2 works and works well Thats not gonna be broken to fix the number 3 position

Yeah we will see about that

Ramiz clown isn’t in charge anymore.
 
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